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@thechicaneclub 55 минут бұрын
Great video, TJ! Glad to help in making this one a reality. If any viewers here have any further questions, want to see other measurements, etc., we’d be glad to help with a follow up video!
@terjehelle 2 сағат бұрын
Why not just use VR?
@Moore_Podiums Сағат бұрын
Haven't tried it..... yet!
@stereosteveo 3 сағат бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks a bunch !
@stereosteveo 5 сағат бұрын
Why do the pedals require that much leg strength?
@Moore_Podiums 3 сағат бұрын
That’s a question I don’t know the answer to but it is way more stiff than any regular car I’ve driven
@thechicaneclub 59 минут бұрын
Great question! A few things are at play here in real racecars that necessitate brake pedal forces up to 250 lbs (114kg) vs just a few pounds/kilos of pedal force with streetcars. As anyone who’s driven a modern streetcar can tell you, only a few pounds of force on the brake pedal are required to come to a comfortable stop, thanks to vacuum-assisted brake boosters (or even brake by wire systems in EVs or hybrids). Now as we all know with sim racing, brake pedal control is critical for performance in order to maintain rolling speed midcorner via trail braking. Imagine trying to carefully control your brake release into a corner with a heavily assisted brake pedal like a streetcar, while experiencing nearly 2Gs on your body. This would be like balancing a feather on your toe while riding a roller coaster (wind aside!). So, it is much easier to control a brake pedal without a brake booster being involved in a racecar, and hence is something all racecar drivers are used to. Eliminating the brake booster also reduces vehicle weight and eliminates an unnecessary failure point. In short, streetcars with boosters are built for comfort in gentle stops, while racecars are built for maximum control in threshold braking conditions. All of this is say that getting a good seating position that allows drivers to exert a sufficient and controlled force on the brake pedal is critical in real cars, but still important in sims, depending on your hardware, calibration, and preferences. There’s a few other engineering things at play here, so this is a slightly simplified answer. Check out Carroll Smith’s books for a more detailed dive into this. Thanks for asking!
@JCrowe86 8 сағат бұрын
Don't forget you can also further adjust the in car view by pausing your replay from inside the cockpit and hitting crtl f12 to edit the cockpit camera settings. From there you have the ability to slide the seat (I guess it's technically your virtual eyes) forwards or backwards with the X offset and higher or lower with the Z offset. This will change your view in relation to the rest of the car without effecting the FOV. Plus you can save this setting for individual cars. FOV, at least how I understand it for iracing, you set based on the calculations more so for the scale of the world outside the car to feel correct, not necessarily so your placement and view from inside in the car is correct.
@Moore_Podiums 7 сағат бұрын
Thank you
@mikshooter2536 8 сағат бұрын
You didn't show your actual seatings position 😂 oMg
@Moore_Podiums 8 сағат бұрын
It’s a cliff hanger
@2ndLastJedi 9 сағат бұрын
86kg haha
@Moore_Podiums 9 сағат бұрын
Math is not a stregnth of mine
@2ndLastJedi 8 сағат бұрын
@@Moore_Podiums haha i used Google. You should get a aluminium profile rig and VR.
@F1Simulated 10 сағат бұрын
Yesssss. THIS!
@davezizka 14 сағат бұрын
Shouldnt you put the screening closer? The dash is too small on rig in irl compared to steering wheel the dash should be bigger. :)
@Moore_Podiums 13 сағат бұрын
I would prefer to, yes. However the configuration for the TrakRacer integrated monitor mount does not allow for forward back adjustment, I could adjust my pedals more forward then do the same shift with the direct drive and seat. However we're limited to about 1.5 inches of forward movement left in the DD Mount. Triples might be on the way...stay tuned
@Moore_Podiums 12 сағат бұрын
Disregard, after moving my speakers it seems like I can adjust the integrated monitor mount about a quarter inch forward before it is fully maxed out. Not much of an improvement TBH
@davezizka 12 сағат бұрын
@@Moore_Podiums Nice, thanks for the video:)
@brandonsimpson3600 15 сағат бұрын
Great Video. Very informative. Thanks
@Moore_Podiums 13 сағат бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jonbanaitis2992 22 сағат бұрын
I think you missed the most important measurements...was really looking forward to watching this until you missed the following.... 1.)Angle of the back of the seat , I understand seats you cannot adjust that but that could help someone get in the middle just in case there lower part is different is also gives a better idea how straight or angled your back is , as every seat has different rack\angles 2.)The height of the steering wheel from the floor . this will give someone a ball park to start, height goes with angle but the height it the hardest to get right. 3.) to help with leg distance the face of the pedals to the front of the seat. obviously this changes with how tall a person is but gives a good ball park to start
@ViszysClips 19 сағат бұрын
all 3 of these are personal preference IRL
@Moore_Podiums 13 сағат бұрын
Hey, thank you for taking the time to share this feedback. I can take the measurements of what I prefer and get you those next Wednesday after the Thanksgiving break. For the seat, since the base and back is not adjustable in the TrakRacer GT Seat, setting the base angle will automatically do the back. However if you have a recliner seat, I could see how this would be helpful information. Stay tuned for ~15 days from now to get those to you
@thechicaneclub Сағат бұрын
Most GT-style bolt-in fixed back seats (like the one in the Porsche here) have a 90-100 degree angle relative to the base of the seat and this is of course not adjustable. The variance is up to different preference and packaging. Racing seats like this have a fixed back angle to for increased safety and to reduce weight. Naturally, a streetcar style reclining seat affords you the option to adjust this angle, so whatever is best for driver comfort and control would be ideal. Like TJ points out, we’ve found that the angle of the base of the seat relative to the floor of the car/ground is between 15-25 degrees in most GT cars, and more reclined in Prototypes and Formula cars. Of course depends on the car and driver shape, size, preference, etc. Thanks for watching and sharing your feedback!
@bangersallday Күн бұрын
Really cool video, thanks for making that.
@Moore_Podiums Күн бұрын
Thank you for commenting and watching! I am glad you enjoyed
@Svan.innovation Күн бұрын
You can turn the cage up side down then you have the weel lower
@Moore_Podiums Күн бұрын
It seems as if the DD is about a half inch too wide to fit if I was to flip it
@mementomori4972 Күн бұрын
...and that's the benefit of an aluminum profile rig.
@Moore_Podiums Күн бұрын
Agreed, the lack of adjustability of the TR8 is less than most aluminum profile rigs … hindsight Thanks for commenting
@mementomori4972 Күн бұрын
@@Moore_Podiums yeah, I too had my fair share of hindsight with this hobby...
@William-Bill-Munny 5 күн бұрын
$400 Sparco FIA approved seat(Sprint L) is just waiting for my TR 160S to arrive - never had a doubt it was rigid enough. I will don't know why some burn money(marketing?) on poorly made fiberglass seats. Thanks for the video making me happy with my purchase.
@AdamsOlympia 11 күн бұрын
Looks great! How are you liking it 6 months later? Just ordered my first full rig, TR120 and the TRX Hybrid fixed fiberglass seat. Been racing in a swiveling office chair and NLR 2.0 stand, so the Trak Racer rig is going to be a game changer for me.
@Moore_Podiums 10 күн бұрын
Great question and thank you for taking the time to comment. I am happy with it, it is not as comfortable. I had some bad leg and back pain after a triathlon and this seat would always make the nerve issue flair up. Overall, I’m happy I went with this over the recliner. I got the chance to sit in a Porsche GT4 a few weeks ago that was for the track. The seat felt extremely similar.
@gr4nco892 14 күн бұрын
Great video! im planning to make a sim that is really similar to yours, as in Trak Racer cockpit, the same samsung monitor, but one thing I'm stuck on is to go with fanatec or moza. I see you have the r16/21 wheelbase, which is what newton meters I'm looking for. My question is basically if you've had any problems with any moza products. Thank you!
@Moore_Podiums 13 күн бұрын
No issues thus far! No need for the kill switch… it’s overkill 😅. I only run at 60% of the R16. In high downforce running at 100% good luck to get in a 15 minute race. The r16 does clip though at places like Monza, spa, algarve.. any places that have a hairpin . I do question if the R21 would face the same. New content coming out about the set up of my TR8 Pro and calibrations of Moza pithouse*
@philanthropist5005 6 күн бұрын
SIMAGIC is way better and has alot of great deals on right now.
@Kane_Jr. 15 күн бұрын
Good video. I currently have the recliner seat and don’t find it too comfortable and been thinking about the fiberglass seat.
@Moore_Podiums 14 күн бұрын
The fiberglass is less comfortable but more real. If you’re looking for comfort stay with the recliner and change the seat config where possible
@IMakeStuff92 21 күн бұрын
Go to your local chop shop or car graveyardand get a real seat from a real car. More selection, less money, higher quality, and more rigidity.
@bohanyuan8521 24 күн бұрын
This video was the closest to what I searched, but do you have any idea on what would be the better choice? - Moza Gs V2P or the Moza RS V2
@Moore_Podiums 24 күн бұрын
I can’t speak from experience but the button amount stands out, if you get the GT wheel it will have more. I’ve found that I’m able to use the GS V2P just fine without spending the extra cash.
@blueferrari397 28 күн бұрын
Actually, your steering wheel is a little too low. You will find much more precision and comfort having the top of the wheel just in line with your chin. F1 drivers have the top of the steering wheel just under the bottom of the nose. As far as distance, your wrist should be able to hang over the edge of the top of the wheel. I've spoken to a few F1 drivers about these positions and also GT/Touring car drivers who shared these positioning theories. When I have driven many of the different new Ferrari road cars, I have found the positioning about the same! Great video though.
@Moore_Podiums 28 күн бұрын
Hey, thank you for the feedback! I will be doing my next non-racing video on this and the different styles! The track racer TR8 has many config options
@aeppikx Ай бұрын
whole rig looks kinda wrong pedals way to close and wheel is to far away ....knees to much bend almost cramped and arms totaly streched
@Moore_Podiums Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment, I ended up taking about 2 hours of redoing the config of the rig. Figured I’ve heard it from enough people I’m doing it wrong.. thanks for the feedback
@aeppikx Ай бұрын
@@Moore_Podiums np^^ i mean at the end its mostly pers. preference but a few thing causes fatigue and pain like the cramped knees or stretched arms
@kevinobrien4155 Ай бұрын
Did the seat come with those universal mount plates on the side?
@Moore_Podiums Ай бұрын
Hey the universal plate is separate. Great question and apologies for not covering that in the video
@fammilyman01 Ай бұрын
lookin good thank you for the vid ill get the bucket
@Moore_Podiums Ай бұрын
Happy to help!
@jonasvag5030 Ай бұрын
And here am I, now fighting the urge to just buy them all with the months coming. GT for ACC, circular for AC/AC Evo (well, for the road cars) and BeamNG etc., the TSW for sims and QR adapters for my Drift wheel 😂 Right now I only use the ES and a QR Adapter for my wooden steering wheel.
@Moore_Podiums Ай бұрын
These are good problems to have, I hope the video helped you out!
@thechicaneclub Ай бұрын
Solid drive!
@harshavardhan-tz2gr Ай бұрын
That looks like a thor hammer 😃
@Moore_Podiums Ай бұрын
It is! Along with Stormbreaker next to Mjölnir
@harshavardhan-tz2gr Ай бұрын
What is TR-8 Pro? Some sort of a gaming console?
@Moore_Podiums Ай бұрын
That’s the frame for the pedals and wheel, also known as a rig
@LIlFaster Ай бұрын
great review im thinking of buying this sequential shifter soon and this helped out alot
@Moore_Podiums Ай бұрын
Happy to help, enjoy
@Fearless-gt9wk Ай бұрын
Great race
@Ruskieit Ай бұрын
Thanks... I was looking exactly for this content in view of the next black friday
@sotaventorecords2773 Ай бұрын
Thanks! This is great, you have saved me some money! I was about to buy the reclining seat but that flex is bad! Whats the point in spending all my money on a sturdy rig only for it to be wobbling.
@Moore_Podiums Ай бұрын
Happy to hear the video helped. If you’re a bigger person or like to adjust when not racing it could be useful but I have my rig only for racing. Enjoy
@thechicaneclub Ай бұрын
Love us some MX5 Cup 😉
@Moore_Podiums Ай бұрын
Might forget to remind you for the race again just to get some Mx-5 action!
@TheJC116 2 ай бұрын
I'd like to have found this video before buying the reclinable seat from NLR 🙃, haven't installed it yet since I'm waiting for my cockpit to arrive but now I'm regretting my purchase
@Moore_Podiums 2 ай бұрын
Don’t be down on yourself. If you have friends over that are bigger or if you ever want to watch a movie or edit a KZbin video in your rig, much more comfortable than the bucket seat!
@SR-fx5sm 2 ай бұрын
Saved me from wasting money on the reclinable seat! Thanks!!
@Moore_Podiums 2 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@rarityd 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. I have been waiting to see a review on these
@Moore_Podiums 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure, hope it helped!
@kevinmatrischitz3050 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! I was about to purchase the reclining seat, but the flex when breaking is really off putting. Saved me some money there! Thanks again!
@Moore_Podiums 3 ай бұрын
Dude, I’m so happy to read that and glad it helped!
@roleypoley808 10 сағат бұрын
I'm in the same exact position. Grateful for this!
@glenncastell864 4 ай бұрын
Real race cars don't have recliner seats so why would you want one on your Sim Rig....
@Ciaofa 3 ай бұрын
Your rig is a Race car?😅
@alperbaser 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Great content, very helpful. What do you think about RS V2 vs CS V2P? Any reason to go with RS V2 instead of CS V2P? I am currently in a decision point to buy one with R9.
@Moore_Podiums 4 ай бұрын
Hey, the only reason I can see is if you prefer a circular wheel over the GT style wheel. I don’t find myself using all of the buttons it offers at this time so I would stick with the cheaper option but the circular wheel opens up more cars and styles to drive on the sim. Sorry for the delay in response was gone for a while. Thanks for watching!
@rossietaylor2534 4 ай бұрын
TJ your thumbnail are awesome
@Moore_Podiums 4 ай бұрын
My man! I hope all is going well! Thank you for that. I had like 3 or 4 designs on this one but had to settle for this. The others had to much going on. Porsches, even in sim are beautiful cars
@Fearless-gt9wk 4 ай бұрын
Great race 😊
@Moore_Podiums 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@TrueBlade-1889 4 ай бұрын
Everyone says get a real car seat. They're designed the way they are, for a reason. Heck you can even hook up a 12V battery for adjusting them.
@Moore_Podiums 4 ай бұрын
I would not be opposed to trying a real seat, will keep an eye out for some used ones
@thechicaneclub 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout, TJ! We had a great time coaching one of our clients up at the Glen a few weeks back, got them 5s/lap faster over last year. Congrats on the podium! 🏆
@thechicaneclub 4 ай бұрын
Great review and breakdown on the differences between the wheels! Keep content like this up! (And nice shirt 😉)
@Moore_Podiums 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I hope this helps others learn and make a decision! The shirt is subliminal!
@ReplicaRacingOfficial 4 ай бұрын
What a race! Great finish🙌
@Moore_Podiums 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, was a blast.. happy to race the same track as F1 that week Looks like we’re on to silver stone next in Porsche cup and F1!
@SakibLH44 4 ай бұрын
Man that's tough! Turn 10 is so easy to spin on exit if you go flat a bit too early. Awesome driving though man. It took me all week to get two top 10 finishes here.
@Moore_Podiums 4 ай бұрын
Its such a fine line between keeping pace and losing your rear! thankfully this new Porsche Cup update makes it feel a bit more stickier to me. Congrats on the top 10! I hope to see you on the grid!
@Fearless-gt9wk 4 ай бұрын
Great race
@Moore_Podiums 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@thechicaneclub 4 ай бұрын
Solid result, TJ! Keep up the progress! 🏆
@Moore_Podiums 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, was almost as exciting as today’s F1 race! How did the event go?
@KeepM0vingFwd 4 ай бұрын
It’s nuts how quickly things get sideways in the beginning. Great race bud! Little miss Moore_Podiums was definitely P1! ❤
@Moore_Podiums 4 ай бұрын
Lap 1 seems to mostly be chaos in iRacing and real life! Ferrari had an issue L1 T1 today too
@Fearless-gt9wk 5 ай бұрын
Great race 😊
@Moore_Podiums 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! It was a fun race
@waynedaley6079 5 ай бұрын
Did you consider using the TrakRacer UNIVERSAL BASS SHAKER/TACTILE TRANSDUCER SIM RIG MOUNT which mounts under the seat ?
@Moore_Podiums 5 ай бұрын
Great question, when I ordered I did not consider it but now I think I wish I would have! If you get it let me know your thoughts
@waynedaley6079 4 ай бұрын
Will do I ordered the universal bass shaker mount for under the seat. However it’s a preorder with an expected ship date for late August
@Moore_Podiums 4 ай бұрын
@@waynedaley6079 I would really appreciate that! I am not opposed to having 2 butt kickers. I had driven last night without the shaker on and the experience was so much LESS immserive. I am looking forward to hearing your feedback. I hope the video helped!
@waynedaley6079 2 ай бұрын
I ordered it June 30th … just received the trakracer universal under the seat bracket …. Took 77 days from ordering to delivery. I’m curious have u tried the buttkicker woth any of the F1 games ?
@Moore_Podiums 2 ай бұрын
@@waynedaley6079you’re not alone, I had to reorder a keyboard mount from them, 2 month lead time. I have no tried any but I hope that it’s worth the wait for you! I know when I drive without the butt kicker, the games are not nearly as immersive. Enjoy! 🎉🎉