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@Zandermangame1
@Zandermangame1 2 сағат бұрын
Now it’s slower bruh I’ve been going for 3 minutes and it’s still at frame 1
@MrFinchStudiosReborn
@MrFinchStudiosReborn 13 сағат бұрын
It would be better if he was first appeared in Sendaris colours(Osivian could ask Sendaris Master initiate Senn in their clan)
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 11 сағат бұрын
why tho, that removes his whole arc
@MrFinchStudiosReborn
@MrFinchStudiosReborn 11 сағат бұрын
@ this could made more conflict His brothers are Voltaris He is Sendaris
@TheRealProfessionalNoob
@TheRealProfessionalNoob 4 күн бұрын
As someone who loved s1 and could not watch s2 (because of the acting) this is pretty good
@TheRealProfessionalNoob
@TheRealProfessionalNoob 4 күн бұрын
I never knew there was a s3
@TheRealProfessionalNoob
@TheRealProfessionalNoob 3 күн бұрын
15:34 im sorry; unless things have changed since my last attempt to watch s2’s voice acting was not great S1 was great and haven’t seen s3 but s2 nope
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 3 күн бұрын
@@TheRealProfessionalNoob you're probably thinking of the fan voice actors, the official voice actors were as amazing as always
@TheRealProfessionalNoob
@TheRealProfessionalNoob 3 күн бұрын
@@VEX1NS maybe Its been a few years since my last attempt The one i saw all the male characters was one voice actor and the females were all voiced by another
@igng3132
@igng3132 4 күн бұрын
I have been a big fan of the series back then. Still is, but it's sad to see that places like Hollywood now no longer produce stories with passion regularly. With the Minecraft Movie on the horizon, my sentiment towards it couldn't even hold a candle against my preference for SOW. Watching your video made me feel that the age which good stories are told can now be harnessed in the hands of people who are not even professionals, who simply tell good stories for the sake of it.
@VegaTheLyra
@VegaTheLyra 4 күн бұрын
15:42 the SoW community in a nutshell when anyone mentions David
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 3 күн бұрын
i learnt of his existence through the pedo drama lol SOW is good, but i will never ever be able to see him as a good person tbh ( cuz i never knew him as a person )
@VegaTheLyra
@VegaTheLyra 3 күн бұрын
@@VEX1NS I discovered SoW through the S1 movie and then forgot about it for a while after the cancellation. Then I rediscovered it through the S2 and S3 commentary videos on BPC in summer of 2021 and have been a fan ever since. Honestly when the allegations came out I was genuinely scared of SoW being taken down. Honestly the community has done an amazing job of separating art from artist.
@VegaTheLyra
@VegaTheLyra 4 күн бұрын
As someone who somehow has Senn as their favourite character this was very interesting. Honestly I think I liked the idea of the premise of his arc in canon but I genuinely also had problems with it's execution in the script. Honestly his canon arc literally is him becoming less rebellious in S1, being essentially a background character for all of S2 up until S3E5 and then he becomes relevant again, and even then he dealt with the whole "Being half Voltaris thing _way_ too quickly, there was like no payoff. I honestly love this rewrite because it makes Senn's internal struggles very clear and makes him more of a character instead of just a stand-in for the audience in most of his interactions.
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 4 күн бұрын
exactly what i mean
@VegaTheLyra
@VegaTheLyra 4 күн бұрын
Also if the script is re-written, it should probably have a scene with Senn and the other Masters, because it parallels Ingressus' confrontation with the old Masters and also brings the Voltaris Arc full circle Also I would love if there's a scene about Senn's thoughts on Thalleous post-S3, like how do you live with not just the knowledge but the _memories_ of someone being wronged by the person who you essentially saw as your 'cool uncle' Also this re-write makes him parallel Achillean in a way (while also being a sort of reverse-Ingressus). Also it ties into something Thalleous said about the truth helping Senn find peace, as through him finding his inner peace, he found peace for the entire clan
@VegaTheLyra
@VegaTheLyra 4 күн бұрын
@@VEX1NS exactly, and I've always been compensating for that in my headcannons by giving Senn like mass amounts of repressed baggage because it's never mentioned in canon
@MysteriousPotatoe
@MysteriousPotatoe 5 күн бұрын
We cant forget the owner of Plasma Studios is a Pedo
@Malikimusmaximus
@Malikimusmaximus 5 күн бұрын
Yeah, I think I Agree, he definitely Does need an arc
@astrophynix179
@astrophynix179 5 күн бұрын
People still remember Songs of War??
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 5 күн бұрын
hell yea we do
@VegaTheLyra
@VegaTheLyra 4 күн бұрын
We never forgot
@yoav.kats6328
@yoav.kats6328 5 күн бұрын
To be honest I don't think Senn is such a problematic character though I do think the changes you suggest could improve the story. My bigger issue is with how in the story is how the Voltaris as a clan are never redeemed. Sure at the end there's a new Voltaris clan but we never see the other clans admitting that they were wrong all those years.
@FirestoneAnimation
@FirestoneAnimation 6 күн бұрын
Honestly Ingressus' info dump could've been reserved for the Voltar memory sequence.
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 5 күн бұрын
i find it interesting that for ingressus to proove his "innocence" he could try to explain it to senn . and maybe senn is like " nah, i dont trust you yet " maybe that could work lol
@VegaTheLyra
@VegaTheLyra 3 күн бұрын
But Voltar would only show Ingressus' memories while he was a master, which wouldn't cover the initial exile of the Voltaris
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 3 күн бұрын
@@VegaTheLyra just make it so voltar has the memmories of all previous masters, the memories just fade over time like natural memories do Exhile day would be pretty vivid anyway
@VegaTheLyra
@VegaTheLyra 3 күн бұрын
@@VEX1NS fair point! It would also help with the question of why does Senn believe Ingressus in the Hailstone scene
@Iloveseals_1800
@Iloveseals_1800 6 күн бұрын
I feel like mysticat was probably running away from something or someone, if it was that fast a struggle might’ve happened before she got the stairs and maybe got pushed or stabbed
@DragonicArchitect
@DragonicArchitect 6 күн бұрын
songs of war is one of those things I come back to every few months to rewatch it really wish they contiunued with the second season
@Malikimusmaximus
@Malikimusmaximus 5 күн бұрын
You and me both
@CK-Voltaris
@CK-Voltaris 6 күн бұрын
Nice video!
@VegaTheLyra
@VegaTheLyra 3 күн бұрын
Hey CK!
@EldeMonio-f8r
@EldeMonio-f8r 6 күн бұрын
I came back to this series after some years of leaving it. I loved the “believer” remix on the trailer, it’s great seeing it alive!
@DaFall0uT
@DaFall0uT 7 күн бұрын
I see what you mean, Senn. Since getting all this hate needs a rewrite, a 16-minute video won't do it, though. But it's a start! This is a real scratch of the surface because a bunch of dialog changes are needed. Still great start!
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 7 күн бұрын
Amen
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 7 күн бұрын
after all i dont do writing work for free ;D
@yes-sj3pd
@yes-sj3pd 5 күн бұрын
​@VEX1NS you also can fix ria too? lol
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 5 күн бұрын
@@yes-sj3pd hahahaha NO i cannot
@yes-sj3pd
@yes-sj3pd 5 күн бұрын
@@VEX1NS fairs U gonna make a video to explain why?
@SomeBurgerMan
@SomeBurgerMan 10 күн бұрын
I watched white pine in vr and it really immerses you into the story
@The_Storyteller_8007
@The_Storyteller_8007 12 күн бұрын
Personally I agree that @plantlover3741 when saying it could be a vampire and that ivory could be a dampyr.
@dallasitz
@dallasitz 13 күн бұрын
i agree with your first point that the stream and its bite marks but what else leaves bite marks a zombie and guess what happened the day before "there is a hunt tmr" and lastly the zombie had no remorse for the dead and lastly zam said your only the new maid because- it was because mys dies because zombie didnt like mys and lastly when they find the body ash says "why dose it matter lalala" i dont remember but that dose implie that mys had drama in the past with family + workers
@FlawlessM
@FlawlessM 14 күн бұрын
I think mysticat just fell down the stairs
@Grenoss-z6f
@Grenoss-z6f 14 күн бұрын
10:00 that caught my attention. That forest "followed her around". What if that forest IS the monster? She's traveled so far to escape it, never once setting foot in it, and yet, it followed her somehow. It might explain why she stares at it so often, it looks oddly familiar. In episode 2, she was warned to stay away from it, but she escaped to see for herself if it was the same forest she was running from. How it killed the servant and the mother is the question. But if the forest is the monster, I'm sure it has its ways. No wall nor gate would be enough to keep it out. Which is probably what's bothering the family members so much. The illusion of their mansion being a safe zone was shattered. If it was a monster or a killer, I'm sure they'd evacuate or at least station someone to keep watch. But they didn't. They realized that there was no monster. It was the forest itself, and there's no escaping it. That would explain the family rummaging through books searching for some kind of information that could explain their experiences. As for the wounds, it could be anything.
@Aoife-w4l
@Aoife-w4l 15 күн бұрын
Low-key I feel like mistycat was murdered by a chandelier. It would explain the wounds and her body looks like she fell.
@Electronica27
@Electronica27 16 күн бұрын
5:43 bro you forgot the other thing that the Piano used to be in a different room that seraptor was cleaning and mentioned this. Nobody really plays a piano in the basement, especially if they're rich.
@offroadturkey
@offroadturkey 17 күн бұрын
I also came job 😊
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 17 күн бұрын
what do you mean? sorry i don't quite understand
@jeffreytan9865
@jeffreytan9865 17 күн бұрын
@@VEX1NS Thumbnail
@commandercody1210
@commandercody1210 17 күн бұрын
I love the fact there is a Minecraft series, that we can look at the body to see if its stab wounds or bite marks and that be (likley) an intentional detail
@simaogoncalves07
@simaogoncalves07 20 күн бұрын
6:06 why do you assume it was a murder? could have been a natural death
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 20 күн бұрын
because the emberton paper confirms she was covered in stab wounds. and because we can see she is covered in stabs wounds. And usually falling down the stairs doesnt cover you in blood and remove a limb lmao
@simaogoncalves07
@simaogoncalves07 7 күн бұрын
@ i mean the mom not mistycat
@viperion_nz
@viperion_nz 21 күн бұрын
Nice work 😊 I actually watched the race he was in with SuperGT (well I watched SuperGT's video of it) - Simon is **rapid**
@Hihize-rose
@Hihize-rose 23 күн бұрын
In the forest when Ivory is strolling in the forest she sees a man and walks as fast as she can from that person. This happened in whitepine 2.
@ryankowalik7904
@ryankowalik7904 23 күн бұрын
This was outstanding.
@SlanderZYT
@SlanderZYT 26 күн бұрын
This is a good theory,but one problem if it's true, the monster gonna look goofy as hell in Minecraft
@Moxustz
@Moxustz 26 күн бұрын
just play 18w31a lmao
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 26 күн бұрын
why so?
@Moxustz
@Moxustz 24 күн бұрын
@@VEX1NS cuz if you place a gravel or sqnd above you rhen you fall all the way to the void
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 27 күн бұрын
-3111440461282444761 on 1.18.1
@Thomanski
@Thomanski 27 күн бұрын
I can see improvement to be made
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 27 күн бұрын
yeah my d key is broken 😭
@EpicSwordFight
@EpicSwordFight 27 күн бұрын
nice, do you have the seed?
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS 27 күн бұрын
-3111440461282444761 version 1.18.1
@Donovan-sy2sk
@Donovan-sy2sk 29 күн бұрын
Wow that was fast.
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS Ай бұрын
@moneyboimc
@RyderTaylor-d3d
@RyderTaylor-d3d Ай бұрын
Interesting take, most people(including me) are thinking it’s a murder mystery story. But this could be nice. Also the H E L P is interesting, I kinda wanna go back and see if there’s any other hidden words, even if they have no meaning.
@Maya-cb8st
@Maya-cb8st Ай бұрын
Also they saidthat a lot of people went missing on the forest, like why does no one talk about that!?
@drakeversteeg2782
@drakeversteeg2782 Ай бұрын
quirky
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS Ай бұрын
im the quirk lorD
@Squiz_02
@Squiz_02 Ай бұрын
with ep 2 the scene with ivory in the forest confirms my therory that shes the murderer and that shes just trying to hide her murderous pultions dont hate pls its just a theory
@lime6423
@lime6423 Ай бұрын
I think it’s just Mugm or the green version of ivory.
@Swift640
@Swift640 Ай бұрын
Some problems that I have with this theory (very long winded responses below): 1. There has been literally no evidence of there being a monster in the story so far. We know that there is definitely something wrong with the woods since people have been going missing in it, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that there’s a beast going and killing people. In regards to Ivory’s fixation with the woods, literally anything could have happened to her during her time out there that could have led her to sustain some kind of trauma explaining this fixation of hers. Though, if there is a monster killing people and ivory did have an encounter with it, then I don’t see why ivory would be so fixated on going back out there. One more thing: if a monster did take a massive bite out of the back of mysticat’s neck like you say, then the detective wouldn’t be questioning human suspects as her potential killers. Not necessarily evidence that there isn’t a monster, more so just the fact that that mark on her neck isn’t a bite mark. In regards to the rest of her wounds, again I’d like to think that the detective and everyone else would be able to distinguish claw marks from stab wounds, so if this was a monster then suspecting humans doesn’t really make sense. 2. It seems unlikely that Mrs hemlock was killed recently. We can intuit this much from the fact that seraptor doesn’t clearly remember that Mrs hemlock used to play the piano in that one brightly colored room from episode 1. If she’d died recently, then not only would the existence of the piano not have been something that he’d have to question since it’s been moved to the basement presumably after her death (moving the piano would have likely been a job for him or the other workers) he’d also likely remember hearing it or at least seeing it as he worked around the house. This seems to imply that the piano has resided in the basement for a while now, meaning that Mrs hemlock has likely been dead for some time. Furthermore, if she had died recently, then given the fact that the butlers/maids’ jobs are to attend to the hemlock family’s needs, you’d think Ivory would be told of her death so that she could better support them emotionally as they’re grieving. Of course, if the butlers/maids haven’t been told of her death like you say, then this wouldn’t be an issue, however given what we know about the piano, it seems more likely that she died a long time ago and it’s old news as opposed to her having died recently and no one knows about it since why would they have moved the piano to the basement if Mrs hemlock is still believed to be alive and enjoys playing it? 3. The hemlock family is clearly hiding something. We can infer this from the HELP letter, since the “help” message itself is clearly only meant to be understood by the hemlock family and whoever it was that wrote it. From a narrative perspective, it would really only makes sense that this is somehow related to the death of mysticat and potentially Mrs hemlock, otherwise there’d be no point in including it in the story from a writing perspective. Going off of that logic, if the secret is that there is a monster killing people and that they’re trying to hide it’s existence from the world, then the help letter arriving right as the monster makes it first kill could make a lot of sense (maybe it escaped from this other party’s control and is targeting the hemlock estate now), but then why would the hemlock family have any interest in staying where they are now after receiving the help letter? Even if they were going to leave the workers to die they’d at least want to protect themselves in some way, however, as far as we know, they haven’t done anything. Also, people have been going missing in the woods for presumably some time now, so unless that letter just happened to take forever getting delivered then the timeframe for this being linked to a monster doesn’t really seem plausible. I think It’s hard to say what’s really been going on at this point. we haven’t really received any cohesive/conclusive evidence within these first two episodes, instead we’ve had a lot of setup for what’s to come. Given a little more time, I’m sure whitepine will deliver an amazing narrative, but for now we wait…
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS Ай бұрын
point 1: yes they wouldnt question the people if it was a bite, but this was made BEFORE episode 2 point 2: Ms hemloks " death " ( if that did happen ) wasnt really a core point of the theory, more of a bonus idea. im not sure what you're trying to proove with her dying earlier or later lol point 3: i dont think the HELP is related to the monster at all lmao, and i dont think the hemlockes are hiding anything. I think its way more likely the sender was hiding the message from whoever they were with. The hemlocks would just take their mail privately, most likely. response to conclusion: i want to once again say the only reason this theory exists is because we have no leads ( For episode one, when this theory was made ) for what person would've done it so i took a completely random shot. I mean its just a theory ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS Ай бұрын
ive kinda said this to other comments, and in the description but i dont actually believe this theory. Since day one i think clownpierce did it XD i just dont have enough talking points to make another full vid
@Swift640
@Swift640 Ай бұрын
@@VEX1NS oh ok, I didn’t realize that this video was made before episode 2 so it definitely now makes sense why some stuff don’t line up. Also, for clarity’s sake the point that I wanted to make with the recency of Mrs. Hemlock’s death was that a part of the theory in the video was that she had died and no one was talking about it with the reasoning being that no one knew because they were keeping it a secret, so the point that I wanted to make was that it just seems more likely that everyone does know and it’s just not relevant at this point
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS Ай бұрын
@@Swift640 thats fair, yea ep 2 surprisingly didnt really confirm or deny that much but im looking forward to how the series plays out
@zMarsIsCool
@zMarsIsCool Ай бұрын
Another theory: There’s a monster, it’s in the forest for some reason kills Misty, Ivory and Pyro know the monster (Ivory just stared at the body after it was discovered) it comes out for some reason, maybe because they left the forest and it’s taking revenge by unaliving their closest friends!
@zMarsIsCool
@zMarsIsCool Ай бұрын
Could go with another of my theories, Pyro’s dad did it. Pyro got outed by his dad for his “hunting” trips in the woods, where he may have hunted the monster? So Pyro’s Dad’s sending the monster after Pyro’s friends idk
@zMarsIsCool
@zMarsIsCool Ай бұрын
Reason we see clown walk past the murder scene before it happens it because he’s letting the monstee in, by Zombie’s orders.
@zMarsIsCool
@zMarsIsCool Ай бұрын
Or the monster just hates the family and unalived Ms Hemlock too
@branddransnothing
@branddransnothing Ай бұрын
I’d like to point out how they shoot some scenes as well, almost as if we are looking from another persons perspective, hiding, unseen or like a cctv cams view. Shots that feel like we are stalking as we watch characters interact with each other and then being left alone to sit in a dull silence. Maybe it’s just how they shot the scenes, but some really do feel like we are someone watching, staring, intruding almost.
@OzymandiasZaKing
@OzymandiasZaKing Ай бұрын
another theory in episode 2 of whitepine since the forest is linked with the murder and the only person we see in the forest was divy. so maybe hes a part of this?
@sackofremains
@sackofremains Ай бұрын
in whitepine 2 you can see that the area seraptor and ivory were in during the forest scene doesn't have a visible fence. the fence probably ended near the front which is why I think that *was* the easiest entry into the manor
@crowsoto9612
@crowsoto9612 Ай бұрын
I got this on my recommended and never seen anything about nvnay of this, the video's barely started and I feel like I fell into the deep end of the pool as a kid
@VEX1NS
@VEX1NS Ай бұрын
is that good or bad?
@crowsoto9612
@crowsoto9612 Ай бұрын
@@VEX1NS you had my interest so I went and searched for whitepine and started watching it, so I think it's good
@crowsoto9612
@crowsoto9612 Ай бұрын
@@VEX1NS I think my reply got eaten but I'm pretty sure it's good cause it made me want to watch whitepine to understand, so I watched it
@isekaimann
@isekaimann Ай бұрын
wait but could the killer have not just moved her body after killing her?
@rubythebee3958
@rubythebee3958 Ай бұрын
I feel like it's probable there was no scream from the murder itself. Fast murder, as you said, could catch someone off guard enough to just kill. As for who did it, probably not a person. Monster? Evil spirit? Who knows.
@winnerwannabe9868
@winnerwannabe9868 Ай бұрын
If the monster killed the mom, why would they go hunting?