Saval was married to Celsa. He may have had a sister with the same name but the fact they were married is undisputed

He knew nothing about any letters to Wallace. All of Wallace’s papers had been handed over to the Indiana state archives and every letter was accounted for decades before Brushy Bill came on the scene. You’re just repeating fabricated stories that authors and publishers are making up.

Well, they were two different people. Thats the explanation.

@@MichaelAnthonyGiudicissi yes, obviously.

Pot calling the kettle black.

How crowded was it?

Not as crowded but we have had all the fires and floods in Ruidoso and the horses moved to Albuquerque, so Ruidoso tourists are not around.

But it was still a good amount of people. I went and so did others.

Probably.

She was long since dead by that point.

That blood was recovered long ago. Initial dna showed it was from two separate people. It’s supposedly being tested again but I’m not even sure that’s true. It’s been 2 years and no results. I don’t think the bench is even the same one that billy was laid on.

It's so exciting and frustrating at the same time, to think you can get close to finding out these other things. Thanks for the response.

Certainly possible

Agreed....yet somehow, otherwise reasonable people just cannot see it.

You think?

The tintype image was published in March 1881 and identified as Billy. There is no doubt it was him since it was used in print prior to his death.

@@MichaelAnthonyGiudicissi thank you for clearing up the provenance of the original tintype.

All of the answers to those questions are on this channel.

There's no revelation.....Garrett himself said he planned to execute the Kid at Stinking Springs so that the rest of his gang would give up.

Thousands of people, tens of thousands of people wore pinky rings. Common among gamblers.

He claimed to be left handed. Then we found out the tintype was reversed and they couldn’t explain it away. Facts.

It’s incredible the stuff people will say to explain away the facts.

​@MichaelAnthonyGiudicissi I've tried to get a copy of morrisons book. Have been interested in Billy the kid for years. I wonder if morrison was convinced or not. Having spent time with him, interviews etc. Great videos though. It is a mystery I wish could be solved.

That's one of a thousand reasons Brushy was not The Kid.

Brett Hall has refused every invitation to discuss Brushy or take part in a real trial to prove or disprove his story. So have every other Brushy "expert" in the world. Why? Because they know his story is BS.

@@MichaelAnthonyGiudicissi I’ve seen very little evidence that his story is BS. I’ve seen much more that it’s real if anything and I use to be a straight up non-believer like you until years of deep research. I can’t speak as to people won’t do debates. A lot feel like they may not get a fair shot on other shows maybe. I watched your trial of brushy bill. I do wish Brett had partaken because I don’t feel like brushy well represented however, with you being the producer Any brushy expert might feel like you’re going to have final say on production and outcome and cut what you don’t want seen. Which is a normal for people without an open mind who choose one side or the other. There’s blind brushy believers and nothing you say would ever convince them otherwise. Im not one of those. But more often I find Garrett believers. They support his story, the end. If you don’t you’re wrong. And Pat was one shady dude. But a great detail of circumstantial evidences against Pat (not for brushy directly) is that the reward offer from Wallace directly said that adequate proof that it is Billy will be required. And Pat tried hard to get that reward after but didn’t try to have any proof. Pat didn’t take a photo of the bottom which was standard at the time. Absolutely standard. Didn’t try to take the body back which was often a normal, and sometimes they put them on ice and showed them off. Nope, immediate burial. No coroner report officially submitted. The one he tried to was rejected by the judge . And a member of the coroners jury even said the one he tried to pass off was fake and full of people who weren’t there There’s no death certificate There was offers of rewards for Billy elsewhere afterward He didn’t try at all to provide evidence though he tried hard to collect the reward. McKinney has said before the wrong man was killed. Poe said he thought it was the wrong man at first The man killed was destined to have brown skin even by newspapers. They said Billy dyed his skin… Garrett even addressed in his book why they thought Billy was Mexican in his book. Because he had a shaved head and spoke perfect Spanish. Lol. Poe and McKinney let Billy walk right by them is their story. And Billy saw them and didn’t fire? And the room was bright enough for Pete to see Billy had a gun and a knife when entering the room. But was so dark Billy couldn’t tell Pat Garrett had a fun literally inches away from him. Garrett’s whole book is full of lies. I don’t see why anyone would trust him honestly. Whether you believe brushy or not. And another interesting thing, so many members of families involved over the years have came forward and said it’s always been passed down in their families that Billy wasn’t killed And many many people said they saw Billy after he supposedly died. Maybe Billy was shot that night but honestly it makes more sense that he wasn’t.

@@TrueFictionmusicproductions why don’t you come on the show for a discussion about this? People would enjoy getting a different viewpoint

@@MichaelAnthonyGiudicissi honestly, as much as I’ve researched I wouldn’t consider myself expert enough to cite exact sources when challenged. I’m sure I could argue the viewpoint that it’s a possibility decently, but there’s guys much better equipped than me. I wish that Brett had accepted, as of all the people I’ve listened to, historians and such i appreciate his ability to cite sources above everyone else which is important. I’m not a hardcore believer so I’m not as attached as many are, I just think it’s a nice possibility. But I listen to a lot of anti brushy stuff too. You’re included. I like seeing all viewpoints

@@TrueFictionmusicproductions well, since no one else is a taker, why don't we have a discussion about it? People are dying for someone to at least speak intelligently about Brushy rather than just being angry. I think you can be that person.

Good one. I’ll try that next time. 😂😂