okay only 2 Zemo's but 5 Chang-Chi's

I see the point you are looking to make, but Zemo, while really good, is also very manageable, with clear counter play. Same can be argued about Shang Chi. He is like a tick when he is dug in, but there are tools to deal with him (especially anything at range). Neither of those are reliably devastating other characters with their actions.

As of right now, according to the timelines document, he has no affiliations. I am hoping for a surprise reveal of a shi'ar empire box, or starjammers, to give him a home. I have seen talk that this could lead to an Annhilators affiliation, as well.

@@AegisbrandStudios AMG already teased an Imperial Guard box not too long ago but no timescales obviously, I imagine he'll start off with GotG affiliation, even though I don't agree with it, AMG are very loose with affiliations in general. Then when Annihilators/Imperial Guard are more prevalent they'll add those affiliations

I must have missed that tease. Unless you are referring card art, or something along those lines, which given how many unreleased models that have shown up as art, I would not really consider that a tease

@@AegisbrandStudios dang you know for now he could… be a foes member till later lol (I’m just desperate for more foes and ones that aren’t 3 or 4 threat)

@@AegisbrandStudios That's fair, it was from some art on their Instagram i think, although it did mention it was teasing upcoming content

I actually do not think he is overtuned, at all. I think he is a strong character, but has clear faults that make him manageable. His damage output has an amazing chance to ramp up, but it can also be controlled by a bit of chip damage, here and there. His basic attacks do not, simply, eliminate targets, without the confidence tokens. He is, in my opinion, a well designed 6 threat

​@AegisbrandStudios I don't completely agree with you, snd fully disagee with a few pts but I very much respect how your level-headed approach is to making your argument. I actually like the recent growth of high threats, and AMG making them worthwhile fielding. I don't think a few lowe tiers should be able to easily body powerhouses as they are depicted on the page. Gladiator is basically Superman. He should be scary. I don't think Thor2 or Gladiator are overtuned, and I am against nerfing them. The game has been dominated by overtuned low/mid threats and underwhelming high threats needed some respect. Dormy could use a bump, and especially Hulkbuster needs a little love. I hope we get a few increases over every big dog joining Malekith on the shelf and never played. Gladiator is going to be a force for surez and having capable low threats and behemoth kaiju's only makes the game more dynamic. A wide team can sacrifice pawns, and still win well vs talls, and the challenge is exactly what you would see on the page! We will eventually see crazy 7,8's and the bar will move again.

It was definitely a tight one, up until a couple decisive.moves

It will be an interesting game to figure out when it is time to try and protect the tokens, vs when taking the hit is alright. I rather dig the sort of play style this guy will have

Mmmmmm good yes but maybe not *quite* this good. Thor 2 do be a little bit overtuned, but at least he’s exciting.

We caught and made the adjustment after goblin moved, and miles went to web swing

Replacing two lower threats of equal value, though, is not a one-to-proposition. First off, which two 3 threats? How do you account for priority control? What about loss of board control? Not to mention there is a wide range of utility in the three threat characters, not all of which translate. Is he supposed to replace two 3 threats level of attrition? What about control elements, or board positioning? Is he worth a X-23 and a Viper? Or is he worth a Zemo and X-23? Maybe a Mordo and a Warlock? There are way too many variables to reduce the discussion down to whether or not he replaces two 3 threat characters, which is what makes it a flawed argument

First off, welcome to the game! It is a hell of a rabbit hole, but a lot of fun. As to the game mats, we predominantly use the mats from iWargame.net (and you can use code AEGISBRAND to save 10% on a purchase, when in stock). But, in the end, any 3x3 mat will do the trick for you, and there are lots of options out there

I don't think these things are mutually exclusive. You can nerf OP characters like Thor 2 while also buffing characters that have been bad for a long time like Gambit and Ursa.

and Clea please 🤗

They should do both. Balancing isn't one or the other. And in the past, they have done both.

I cannot speak to what circles you are in, but I have seen, and been involved in, quite a few discussions surrounding Hulk and his impact on the game. I will not bore you with the details of those discussions, just that they do exist

I've seen lots of discussion about Hulk being too strong. Especially after someone uses Hulk to win a big tournament. But I also think it's disingenuous to claim "hulk has more stamina." In practice, the lack of a daze greatly reduces Hulk's stamina in comparison to other models. If you hit Thor with a spikey attack for 15 damage while he has three health left on his front side, he takes three damage and dazes, getting to return on his injured side. Hulk leaves the board. This is why Hulk is so frequently off the Board in turn 3-4 of games.

Please understand that none of this was complaining, it was just a discussion. I am of the mind set that we, as a whole, have not yet caught up to solutions/meta that deals with Thor2. My own, personal, experience against him has not been overwhelmingly bad. In fact, I have found I have been able to kite him around, or mitigate him in other ways. However, none of this is to say he does not warrant a discussion in the matter. People championed both Mal and CGR for quite some time, saying he was not an issue, and look where we are now. As a community, I believe we need to be able to have these sorts of discussions.

​@@AegisbrandStudiosAnd now CGR and Mal aren't even taken much So all the whiners campaign and then it leads to those characters getting nerfed and lost. There is no way to fully balance, nor should there be. I would rather see high tiers be worth their threat cost. The community has steadily gone to shit since they pushed for the competitive rules after yr 1. Terrain is a mess, and only AMG and the vocal idiots get to decide who is worth fielding based on their preferences. They should just play the game and stfu

@@mitchcowan1446 part of this is also the dogma that nerfed=bad without trying it for a lot of people. CGR I think is perfectly serviceable and just doesn't have the bonkers turn 1 he used to but his kit hasn't changed drastically outsdide of WHEN he gets his power.

@Karang029 this is a very solid point to bring up. If Mal and CGR had released in their current state, they would be seen as fine. But, because we saw them when they were busted, we have a distorted idea of what their power level should be

I play HB a lot and have tried him in various affiliations to see where he feels best. If HB has a way to get his spender on Thor2 reliably, it can definitely impact his performance as Thor would get no power from damage on that attack + semi-reliable throw to displace him. That typically means the affiliations that would work for HB are inhumans, dark dimension, brotherhood, etc. Something where he can have that 3 power each turn. If Thor goes first and you have to spend the power for damage and push reduction, the auto push on builder does help by displacing him. It's a viable option, but idk if using 6 threat to stop Thor is worth it. Especially as HB doesn't quite excel as much in other areas as Thor does. If you are a diehard HB fan like I am go for it, more reasons for HB to see the table is better for all imo.

​@PureBrawler That's what I meant when I said that Thor outweighs Hulkbuster at 6 threat. Either reduce HB to 5 or increase T2 to 7. The disparity is glaring when comparing these 2.

​@wookiemart I'd rather see HB buffed. He was a bit lackluster and now more tuned 5's and 6's are about. No nerfs, buffs. HB deserves some love

@ I'd rather HB stay at 6 and get buffed cause he still would feel off design wise. He can be a mid-strength 6 if his pseudo-revive mechanic becomes actually feasible.

@ I agree. Things I have considered are to buff his spender a bit, change the push on builder to a 'may' on both sides, make his defensive tech less top heavy, let him keep his power when he flips. He can still be a weaker 6 if it means every other game or so you bring him back after getting dazed, I think it's a fun mechanic and makes him unique.

I am not sure the answer would be to make him a 7 threat, to be honest. I think he would need a more substantive change to his card, if that were the case. To your point about how the community is quick to write off a character after changes, that one is interesting. I maintain that is only the opinion because we saw them, and got used to them, while they were overtuned. A lot of the time, if the adjusted character was the one we got at release, opinions would likely be fine with them.

@@AegisbrandStudios I mean would he need a drastic change at 7. Compare his card to current Malekith at 7 and I'd take Thor2 over that any day of the week(coming from someone playing a bunch of Malekith of late because I want to haha)

I have my own thoughts on Thanos. Maybe I will share those in a video. I know when I have shared them in the past, they have gotten some rather firm responses

Perhaps because its the new hotness and not because op? T6 Hilk was the same thing and he got an upgrade even

The "Hulk was the same thing!" is revisionist history, he was never at the same level of use as Thor2 or CGR had at their peaks.

​@ChannelRiot Absolutely wrong. He and Thanos have been top tier includes and splashes. I see the stats since year one, it is not revisionist history. Thor is just the lastest big deal so more include him, then the whiner crowd freaks out and petitions to downgrade him. Same call happen eith every well tuned release. Then you are underwhelming and stop getting seen nearly as much. Hulk got an upgrade though, and he has useful cards just for him. Go on spew your nonsense. You are hilariously misinformed and likely demonstrating extreme bias on top of that.

The thing is because Phoenix is a beloved X-man, she'll never get touched.

There is a lot here. I definitely hear, and understand, this side of the discussion, though I do feel I have some counter points worth thinking about (not trying to sway a side, at all) For Hulk, before his buff, he was actually rather unimpressive, and needed the tweaking. It was a pretty common point of discussion among the community, and the devs at AMG agreed in the end. As for Thor 2, he is toeing the line with being meta defining, which is never a good thing for a model to be. The second you have to always account for a single model when building your team, that model has too much influence. Having said that, I do come down in the camp of the meta just needs to catch up to him. I have played against him a number of times, and while he is strong, there are ways (albeit limited) to deal with him. As for the value of two 3's, I still think that is a bad argument, if only for the fact that what a 3 threat does varies wildly. Should Thor 2 be equal to a pair of support 3's? What objective runner 3's? Should he be worth an aggressive 3, and a support one? There is too much variety at 3 threat to make a blanket statement he should be worth two of them, in my opinion. In the end, I just wanted to highlight what I saw as potential talking points for Thor 2. Glad to see some discussion on it

Just make his builder a gainer. If he spikes an attack he has power to rip the board turn 1. Thats the Problem i see with him and how to fix it without nerfing him to death. Thanos: Include his Zero-Gem-Costs in the BlackOrder-Leadership.

@@AegisbrandStudiosI agree with what you are saying, I just think the type of play that you are forced to use into Thor 2 is not fun. The meta right now is also just really kaiju-intensive with many factions that aren’t running kaiju struggling a lot. Thor 2 is just the most recent and egregious example at the moment.

​@AegisbrandStudios You may not like the argument, but it IS valid. If you can take two 3's and they have better action economy and can take or secure more objectives, then the 6 has to match that or its no contest. Simple and valid. You cannot discount this. You ccan disagree, but it IS valid argument. Next, Hulk dominated the meta juat the same. I have playes since say one of MCP. I saw Hulk or Thanos splashed everywhere, and they have TTC's to boot. Thor2 has bs ttc's. If they had better Ttc's and tones down his card, but made him Avengers, as he should have been, sure. Give him immunity to Stun like Thor1 has and new ttc's lile a god blast or power of gaia, something HE can use alone, he might be more balanced. Brothers in arms can be mitigated. Making him smaller size is foolish. Ever see save for the biggest strongest enemies toss Thor around? Do street level threats toss him about? NO. The competitive scene hurt the narrative MCP so much that is all anyone thinks about now. I wiuld prefer characters match more closely to their comic book ratios of power than trying to balance a game because some tournament focused whiners bitched to AMG. Hulk is still a monster T6, and Thor is no better, when considering Hulk is on Avengers, has useful TTc's and has been splashed to great effect. I disageee with you completely. This isn't good for the game. If they overcorrecy then he wont be useful on the table for the threat and that is why CGR and Malekith are seen anymore. A high threat must be worth the single tall inclusion. AMG is too probe to their own favorites (Daredevil a 4???).

​@@StefanFlessaAt least its not an overdone change. I don't think AMG will stop here sadly

While I do not agree with the ugly part, I fully agree that for videos, always have painted models. Which is why all of these models are painted

Sadly, a corrupted clip. There was no salvaging it

@@AegisbrandStudios No, no, it was hilarious! I totally thought that Sabe had been wounded twice and it was just over for her.

Leia hits real hard 🤣

Ah, shame on Jason! He normally knows better. Oh well

Whoops, I always forget about that with Sacrifice, don't use the card super often, that's on me (not that it ended up making the difference anyways this game)

There is a note during the video regarding the Wrecking Crew error, already. Thanks for the note on Pumpkin Bombs. Thankfully, the conditions were never really relevant

@AegisbrandStudios Shoot I must have missed that note. My apologies I was multitasking. I'll update the original post.

@shaunkrogulski9619 no worries. Not uncommon for people to multitask and miss a smaller detail. Would rather have the comment than not 👍

The truck was not between him and spider woman, so the conditions for cover, assuming he was within 1 of it, were not met.

One of the all time rolls, for sure

Well now. Sounds like a fun plan

78.78% chance to have yaka mastery fire on 10 dice with one reroll.

38:46 Lol within 5 of mace. Why? Commandos with that hunker are already steadfast and protection :)

Glue is required for these. A simple plastic glue, or super glue, will do the trick, with little amounts needed

@ Thanks, I’ve never done anything like this before so I’m pretty confused when it comes to these. If you have time, is there anything that I should have before putting them together?

@Grap3Z1lla some clippers, to remove the models from the sprue/frame. A sharp xacto blade to trim any flash, nubs, or trim, off the model. A clean surface to work on (I use a cutting mat). To remove trim, I also use the back of the xacto blade

@@AegisbrandStudios Thanks so much! You’ve been a real help, as I said I don’t really know what I’m doing but you’ve been great. I might come back to this video later and let you know how it went. Again thanks so much

@Grap3Z1lla for sure! Everyone starts somewhere. Just take your time, and it should all work out nicely

If they do not bother you, you do not need to remove them

It all depends on how comfortable you are with assembling the models. I have been doing this for a long time, and I think the Marines took me,.maybe, an hour to put all of them together. The aliens a bit longer, but not by much

They always do, eventually. Sadly, this video was supposed to be up around the time the new series went up for sale, but thanks to shipping issues...

That would be a question for the guys at iWargame. Not sure if they have European distribution, or not