Are these issues happening if these bags are used daily? I just got the pochette metis in monogram canvas from the Kusama collection. I love the multicolored polka dots and hope they donât melt on me, lol. But I donât think itâll be in my regular rotation. I also have a NoeNoe in DA but only use that a few times a year in the spring and summer so I havenât put that much wear and tear into it. I hope I donât see the fraying for a while. Also, Iâm saving up for a kislux . Has your colleague seen the same issues with that size? I donât mind some relaxation in shape but I donât want it to be a puddle either. Thanks for the video!
@thebeardedsamurai69052 күн бұрын
Great review as always guys
@adammacdonald50512 күн бұрын
Thank you guys for the kind words.
@AverageAtBestCornhole2 күн бұрын
Have you thrown these series? What is your thoughts on them?
@frankendsley18273 күн бұрын
I've got both of these bags. Both are exceptional bags.
@mcfresh305 күн бұрын
When are you going to do the MX outbreaks? 😂 I know I keep asking, but very underrated bags.
@AverageAtBestCornhole5 күн бұрын
@mcfresh30 They are on our list to purchase, those and the Meltdowns. We do not have them yet though, so I don't know when.
@mcfresh305 күн бұрын
Good reviews for both, thank you for your time.
@adammacdonald50516 күн бұрын
The Big Mac Bags Whatever is not the same hybrid carpet as the Valkyries. the whatever uses the same as the all cornhole shag attack , fly surge x, cornhole coastal iconic. the 717 does look to be the same as those listed above.
@AverageAtBestCornhole6 күн бұрын
We were talking about the Draco fast side I do believe, I'll have to go back and re listen to make sure we didn't mess up. Your Whatever series has the same fast side Valkyries, correct?
@adammacdonald50516 күн бұрын
@AverageAtBestCornhole yes I believe we both use Osprey
@AverageAtBestCornhole6 күн бұрын
@adammacdonald5051 That video will finally be posted this Sunday. We gave you credit because the Surge X and Icon are a clone of your bag, since you did that combo first.
@lwmhawj3486 күн бұрын
If you think BGs are large to extra-large templates, I don't even wanna know what you think of Ultra's templates.
@lordsofdeepentertainment73178 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I just started and have been throwing kill shots MP5 and Katana for 3 months. I wanted to add another bag to the arsenal and was looking at these two bags in particular. After watching this and your other videos I’m leaning towards the wolverine-L. Keep up the great work. I hope you guys get big soon.
@AverageAtBestCornhole8 күн бұрын
@@lordsofdeepentertainment7317 Thanks! You won't be disappointed in those L's. They are forgiving but still have a good enough fill to make them drippy around the hole.
@DemoNelzy8 күн бұрын
Are the 717's similar to the valkyries? That is a fast carpet.
@AverageAtBestCornhole8 күн бұрын
@@DemoNelzy Smaller template and a little slower than the Valkyries.
@MarlerDunshee8 күн бұрын
Most people would think that your kislux bags are authentic because most people don't notice the difference! My husband bought me a LV for my birthday for $5000 and my friend bought a knockoff for about $60 and it looks exactly the same? I seriously can't believe it! It's amazing how some of these bags look exactly like real authentic designer bags! Cheers
@davidwestwood245712 күн бұрын
I have the Element-Hs and really love how full they feel, but the slow side is also really thin and the fast side is a little too slow. Wish they would have done the Wizard fast side. I got the Tremor XD and they are a better bag all around. They're medium full, very small template, have a liner that takes care of the thin slow side, and have the soft variant of the Viper fast side (not sure what to call that one). All flat fill too so you can really grip them, and they don't kick at all. Only complaint is that True Cornhole doesn't have great designs IMO.
@AverageAtBestCornhole12 күн бұрын
@davidwestwood2457 I'll add those Tremor XD to our list. That sounds like a bag i want to try out. That Viper variant fast side is nice, feels way better in hand than Viper fast in my opinion.
@davidwestwood245712 күн бұрын
@@AverageAtBestCornholenice! If you reach out to the guy, I bet he would make y'all a custom. They also have a really good sale happening now. I got mine for like $70
@gregorysforza322812 күн бұрын
Great job guys. I have a set of Gardian x-r’s. Love the bag. Agree when you say it runs true, surprisingly true. Very little kick and really hole friendly. Also agree that the slow side is scary thin feeling. It’s the only thing I don’t like about the bag; after using them a while it doesn’t bother me. So I haven’t heard of the slow side being a problem. I don’t know if anyone else has. I also have a set of wolverines, I never broke them in but the slow side does feels thicker, even though it’s the same material.
@infotechyeti12 күн бұрын
Element or Guardian H?
@AverageAtBestCornhole12 күн бұрын
@infotechyeti Only have experience with Guardian X-H. Depends on what you want to do and your skill level. I think the Element is fuller and more active. Can Guardian H make all the same shots? Yes, but the Element will be easier. Also, it is better for teaching. I've been trying to roll with the Element. The Guardian H is a little looser and drippier and would be better for someone already experienced with those shots.
@xPRxMEx13 күн бұрын
Whats up fellas!?! Where are the Logic Element VS?!? 👀
@AverageAtBestCornhole13 күн бұрын
@xPRxMEx They are on the short list, so within a couple weeks.
@EversoleNathan13 күн бұрын
Where is your shop for getting some tshirts or jerseys made/ordered? Love the channel.
@AverageAtBestCornhole13 күн бұрын
@EversoleNathan Thanks for watching. Unfortunately we do not have a shop. I can direct you to the company that makes our jerseys, we just had some new ones made. It's Local Legend Cornhole, you can find him on Facebook and send a message if you are interested. Would be awesome if we had a shop someday, but we are not at that point yet.
@EversoleNathan13 күн бұрын
@@AverageAtBestCornhole Thanks!!
@JohnDalFavero13 күн бұрын
Hands-down, these are my two favorite bags. I prefer the "heavy" version of the Guardian X as they have the same fullness and hand feel as the Ripper X. When I get up from the table to go play a game, I have a difficult time deciding between these two bags. They are both fantastic!
@AverageAtBestCornhole13 күн бұрын
@JohnDalFavero That is what is so neat about the Guardian X, having that option. I still prefer the L's and they have a spot in my bag. Justin is still working on "breaking in" his H's fully, but we plan to make a video discussing all 3.
@AverageAtBestCornhole13 күн бұрын
Which series did you like more?
@gregorysforza322812 күн бұрын
Seems like they like them both pretty equal. More action on the Ripper xr. Less kick and a little more hole friendly on the Gardian x-r Slightly bigger template.
@GinaBasile-i7s13 күн бұрын
Are you familiar with any ACO bags that resemble the kingslayer?
@AverageAtBestCornhole13 күн бұрын
@@GinaBasile-i7s Not at the moment. We have some Cornslinger Apex coming that have similar materials and fill, but I don't know about template. Buffalo bags Halo X with the light mix fill should be similar also.
@HoguerLuzan15 күн бұрын
In fact, when you buy a high-end imitation in kislux and walk on the street, no one will care whether you have a fake or not, so why not?. kislux
@AverageAtBestCornhole14 күн бұрын
@@HoguerLuzan is that like a non stamped bag?
@TylerReed-en1fq18 күн бұрын
Where did you guys get the shirts?! I’d love one as a fellow cornholing Ohioan 😅
@AverageAtBestCornhole18 күн бұрын
@@TylerReed-en1fq A friend with a Cricut made those for us.
@TylerReed-en1fq11 күн бұрын
@ awesome!
@TylerReed-en1fq18 күн бұрын
Would love to see a comparison with the new Nola bags I think there called gator 2.0 and jazz 2.0. Keep up the great work guys 👍🏼
@AverageAtBestCornhole18 күн бұрын
@@TylerReed-en1fq We have both of those sets coming. Probably in a month or so that video will be posted.
@TylerReed-en1fq11 күн бұрын
@ great can’t wait!
@AltangerelZerar19 күн бұрын
When I started collecting handbags, my goal was to have a luxury handbag collection of 50. Over the years, Iâve been amazed at how much the kislux has changed my perspective on how many bags I really need, and Iâve been pleasantly surprised with every bag Iâve purchased.
@AverageAtBestCornhole14 күн бұрын
@@AltangerelZerar how many sets can you fit in the handbags?
@Eighty5iveProd19 күн бұрын
The XR aswell? He never said get took them un the 1st place.
@AverageAtBestCornhole19 күн бұрын
@@Eighty5iveProd Sorry, I think you have a typo. What were you asking?
@Eighty5iveProd19 күн бұрын
@AverageAtBestCornhole haha I think i had a stroke while writing. What I was saying is HE NEVER SAID HE TOOK THE XR BAGS. HE TOOK THE BGs.
@AverageAtBestCornhole19 күн бұрын
@Eighty5iveProd Haha, sorry about that. Probably got deleted during editing. We want to keep these compare videos shorter than our others, but we end up standing there and talking too much while recording.
@JM-si4ld19 күн бұрын
That one on the left looks a lot like the Swag Bags type of design 🤔
@AverageAtBestCornhole19 күн бұрын
@@JM-si4ld BG calls that Mad Teddy, they have a new design every year
@timothy442819 күн бұрын
Gotta pick up a set of guardians after this
@AverageAtBestCornhole14 күн бұрын
You won't be disappointed. We have a set each of the L, R and H.
@bryanlane914620 күн бұрын
Iv got a set of Guardian XR’s on the way can’t wait to try them.
@AverageAtBestCornhole14 күн бұрын
Did you receive them yet? How did you like them?
@MistaDJ253220 күн бұрын
Great review guys, thanks for the content! I have the guardian x-h and agree with your close about how it blends being hole friendly but also try working on the advanced shots especially with the h version. Both seem like great bags!
@JohnDalFavero20 күн бұрын
Another nice thing about the Guardian X bags is they offer weights (L,R, and H) so you can custom fit them to your preference, not a one-size-fits-all like the Kingslayer bags.
@stevescott585823 күн бұрын
I have the exact same RyGuy Aura’s, and they are money!!
@AverageAtBestCornhole14 күн бұрын
Taking a while to get them really broke in, but that white herringbone plays nice!
@gregorysforza322826 күн бұрын
You nailed it boys. Keep these videos up! My vote is for the Ripper x and guardian x Also the Vipersr people really want to know what that bags is about. Is it the same as the underworld clone. How do other similar bags rate it?
@AverageAtBestCornhole14 күн бұрын
Ripper X and Guardian X video is coming soon. It was kind of hard to compare. They are very similar bags, but there were a few differences.
@mcfresh3026 күн бұрын
Nice bags! Double 4 banger
@ghostofthepines08426 күн бұрын
My 24 talons 2.0 do the same
@bryanlane914627 күн бұрын
I’d like to see a Guardian vs Kingslayer comparison
@AverageAtBestCornhole27 күн бұрын
@@bryanlane9146 Guardian XR and Kingslayer will post next Thursday.
@bryanlane914627 күн бұрын
@ awesome!
@xPRxMEx26 күн бұрын
King slayer vs Elements 👀 😏
@gregorysforza3228Ай бұрын
I would love for you guys to do comparable bag videos. Ie guardian x and the ripper x. Maybe clones vs viper RS. I know a lot of people are looking for stuff like that. I also wanted to compliment everyone on putting together great content. You are all doing a great job. Especially the boys💪💪
@AverageAtBestCornholeАй бұрын
@gregorysforza3228 I agree, it's just that the possibilities are endless and we don't always keep every set of bags. With that said, we started working on a few comparisons, hopefully these will be posted later in the week in addition to our weekly review video. Ripper vs Viper R Kingslayer vs Guardian X Ripper X vs Viper RS Wizard L vs Aura Viper X vs Wizard L Just to name a few we plan to do.
@gregorysforza322827 күн бұрын
@ sounds like you are on to something.
@sirtweak8040Ай бұрын
Hell yeah great game dudes
@davidwestwood2457Ай бұрын
Great review, thanks fellas! Kingslayer sounds nice, but it might be too floppy for be. I should probably try a floppier bag tho to take advantage for the forgiveness and grabbing the hole
@AverageAtBestCornholeАй бұрын
@davidwestwood2457 They are definitely a floppy bag, but not overly floppy like a worn out Viper R.
@davidwestwood2457Ай бұрын
@@AverageAtBestCornholeawesome, thanks for the info!
@philallen8146Ай бұрын
I love the Clones and the Oaks. My opinion is the Oaks are fast
@AverageAtBestCornholeАй бұрын
How will you pack your cooler?
@dennispowerspowers991Ай бұрын
How would you compare the kingslayer to the guardian x bags
@AverageAtBestCornholeАй бұрын
@@dennispowerspowers991 those are the bags we we talking about at the very beginning of the video.
@Eighty5iveProdАй бұрын
Which would you prefer- VIPER R vs KING SLAYER?
@AverageAtBestCornholeАй бұрын
@Eighty5iveProd Kingslayers are still too new. They would need played regularly for about 6 months to see if they over stretch like the Viper R. That is the biggest complaint with Viper R, they become unplayable too soon. As of right now, the Kingslayers are being thrown while the 2025 Viper R are just sitting there, if that answers your question.
@Eighty5iveProdАй бұрын
@AverageAtBestCornhole i just bought my BG witcher. Should have waited
@richardhead2779Ай бұрын
The reviews are better than Mike’s bags keep up the good work
@Pricey98Ай бұрын
Love watching your reviews. I have a set of Logic Zinc Ls and you’re review about them were spot on.
@AverageAtBestCornholeАй бұрын
@@Pricey98 Thanks! We appreciate the encouragement!
@joeshepherd2727Ай бұрын
Can you explain the difference between the king slayer and the black flag swindle. I know same slow side material, but not sure about anything else.
@AverageAtBestCornholeАй бұрын
@joeshepherd2727 Not a lot, but three things stood out the most. The fast side on the Swindle is very delicate, I had to fix many snags on it and we don't play in super harsh conditions. I would assume BG used a performance liner on the Kingslayer and it helped the bag. Made the slow side feel thicker and gave it some drip. Fill. Swindle was more of a forgiving fill, which is great for most players. Kingslayer was a little more active, which is good for someone wanting to shape shots. They measured comparably, but I feel like the Kingslayer played larger than the Swindle. Our set of Swindles were extremely thin and loose, again good with their fill and for someone that needs a forgiving bag.
@KingSlayerRandyАй бұрын
It was nice meeting yall at the open. Them KingSlayers are fire.
@AverageAtBestCornholeАй бұрын
@KingSlayerRandy It was nice meeting you guys too.
@bryanlane9146Ай бұрын
Are they coming out with a Valkyrie L or are you just hoping for it?
@AverageAtBestCornholeАй бұрын
@bryanlane9146 Haha, just hoping.
@bryanlane9146Ай бұрын
@ I gotcha 😂 Love the content keep up the good work.
@glennsmith1645Ай бұрын
Have you thrown the 25 stamp version? Mine are really floppy.. I just wonder if they took some fill out making them like the L version your asking for
@AverageAtBestCornholeАй бұрын
@@glennsmith1645 I have not, so i don't know if there is a difference between '24 and '25.
@marie-claudelavoie7382Ай бұрын
I like fast bags , witch one do you give a 4 bags ?
@AverageAtBestCornholeАй бұрын
@marie-claudelavoie7382 We liked the Elites a lot more than the regular pro snipers.
@kongthao5121Ай бұрын
I throw both. Viper RS is 10x better hand feel collecting, cutting and hole friendliness.
@KAP814Ай бұрын
Best pouches for bags on the market. I don’t use any brand but these.