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the thing is that it's not a government problem, If it's a effective thing then everyone will go for it. it's something that depends on the democracy of the country. It's because of this "Government does not care" problem that we have many heritage railways today, It's a Good for bad depending on the view of things

They mothballed their last locomotive on January 14th 2024

"Quadruple"? No. Right now they're slowing down on coal increases and focusing on increasing renewable energy.

What at all would OSHA have to do with China???

Nooooooo that's sad and why are they retiring

@@rickanshaunaremior7653 Because the new diesel locomotive is coming. In December 2023, another steam locomotive collided with a truck at a railway crossing.

чисто? Если для тебя это чисто значит ты не видел все видео.

guessing it has to do with the quality of coal used

The lack of visible smoke is what efficient burning is supposed to look like. The cause is that the coal is burning completely. When smoke is black, that is because of small unburnt particles being carried with the smoke.

wrong, China still uses steam to this day, just that Sandaoling was torn up earlier this year

@@thecapisoffyt so is the US, and so is some other countries. What is your point?

@@btfo420 i was talking about China, they still use steam just not in Sandaoling as they torn up the tracks there earlier this year

steam is still involved in most of the world's power generation, and it's gonna take a major breakthrough of some sort to change that.

The coal mine is still in operation, even if the steam locomotives aren't.

Eh, nothing continuous like you would see from say, CSX. These rails still use Joints.

joints are better operate in cold environment, like in northern China close to Russia @@GamingAppleTheFirst

So many sparks arise when blowing pipes with dust blowers installed in the firebox.

Upgrading steam locomotives and steam engines is a futile task.Their efficiency is less than 10%, increasing it above 15% will cost more than building a new diesel or electric locomotive. In addition, a steam locomotive is a very troublesome product to operate. It requires 5-10 times more frequent maintenance at the depot + it spends dozens of tons of coal and more than 10 tons of water every day. At one time in the USSR, starting in the 20s of the 20th century, steam locomotives were replaced by diesel locomotives on the Turkmen-Siberian Railway precisely because of the lack of water in the deserts of Central Asia. It's basically a desert here in China, too, and I think diesel engines or old electric locomotives are humming there right now. In Russia, old electric locomotives like this VL 23 kzbin.info/www/bejne/foXCaqVmar-Ne6c are usually used to deliver ore or coal to the combine , and some veterans can only be seen in such work

By the way, the second VL22M veteran at the same Bakalsky mine kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ6aiGSca7aGfbc

Steam engines can go 100+ mph

@@balddicknosedasscanoe An amateur is always visible from afar.SO, the locomotive is designed in such a way that both high-speed passenger locomotives and traction freight steam cylinders have the same number of operating cycles per minute at maximum speeds. An increase in the speed of steam locomotives is achieved by increasing the diameter of the driving wheels. Consequently, freight locomotives have more pairs of wheels (to ensure a larger contact area of the driving wheels with the rail when starting a heavier freight train) and they are 1.5-2 times smaller in diameter of the wheels of a passenger locomotive and lose about the same number of times to steam locomotives of equal traction power, thus 100 mph for steam locomotives - This is a real figure, but it is given by reducing the tractive effort and the number of wagons. Moreover, the ascent, into which the freight locomotive will calmly enter without loss of speed, will lead to the passenger losing speed, and the locomotive driver will be forced to "borrow water" from the boiler for lifting, and the stoker will manually pour coal into the corners of the furnace. Let's compare this with the work of a diesel locomotive, for example, an old diesel locomotive of the 1960s produced from the USSR TEP 60 , which replaced steam locomotives on passenger transportation in the USSR in the 1960s. And what do we see? A small diesel locomotive with an electric transmission has a design speed of 100 miles - 160 km / h, while the TEP 60 consumes 3 times more than a steam locomotive , only 6,400 liters of diesel fuel, instead of 20-30 tons of coal and 7-10 tons of water. Further, the mileage before scheduled maintenance of the locomotive is 3 times more than that of the steam locomotive and the locomotive crew of 1-2 people instead of 3 people in the locomotive, well , it is clear that the locomotive crew in the disel locomotive on our Soviet and Russian railways worked in a clean civilian suit, and on steam locomotives the crew looked like miners in a mine kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX3SgJiDjshon7c

almost certainly. with such an massive and important rail network

Of course there are, but most of them have lung cancer ...

well china also has the world's largest high speed rail network at 35,000 km compared to the US' 735km

@@saucycade123 I know. But that doesn't cancel this thing out...

well it's a coal steam locomotive in a coal mine. i think it make sense

why replace something that works perfectly fine?

@@saucycade123 which constantly has horrific accidents, like trains coliding and derailing ..

Yeah sounds similar to our J class. K class have higher pitched whistles than this I'd say

That’s because they use 5 chime whistles that are based on the American Star Brass manufacturing company’s standard 5 chime whistle.

either 18th century or the 1800s XD

These were built in the 1970s and 80s

@@SouRwy4501Productions tbf he said technology from 1800 not built in 1800

About 1/3 of global energy comes from coal, not 3/4. Sandaoling has also stopped using coal powered steam locomotives in 2022.

@@DaveBeSalty It was in reference to electricity production. The locomotives are very few still burning coal. Most steamers were converted to fuel oil long ago.

@@indridcold8433 Only 37% of global electricity generation comes from coal, thats closer to 1/3 than 3/4... and this number is rapidly decreasing as we finally move away from coal to renewables. Coal is dying, and good riddance.

The average US household uses up electricity daily comparable to running this locomotive for 4 minutes, if the electricity is coal sourced.

We have all been lied to and the environmental crisis is completely fake.

@@alfwedarf7764 You are not very bright are you?

@@Pandatoofu Yes I am, clearly I see through deceptions.

@@alfwedarf7764 Nah you cant you seem mentally disabeld.

Lmao that’s not how any of that works. What do you think is created when coal is “vaporized”?

Geez Louise! Just look at that brown smoke coming out and tell me it’s all nice and clean! If it’s so healthy, how come station interiors were covered in black soot?😂

The smoke is brown.

Coal power plants are around 35% efficient. A steam locomotive is around 10%.

No, they do not win. They produce less harm than diesels in terms of exhaust, but compared to electric, they are worse assuming the plant providing the electricity is reasonable (though they are still better because of the scale; power plants are far better in producing power per ton of material than any steam locomotive.) They are high cost because it takes so much to keep one going, compared to a diesel which requires far less maintenance and man hours to keep in actual operational usage on the line, meaning you can have less locomotives for the same amount of tonnage hauled due to less downtime spent maintaining and steaming. Steam locomotives are very powerful, but diesels are better. Steam locomotives are less efficient in burn, less thermodynamically efficient, are not easy to have multiple locomotives running on one train (the whole reason of Garret's and articulated steam locomotives is because it meant more power without trying to have two crews handle the train) and do not produce their peak power from standstill, only finding their peak power once they have attained speed (can't haul as much). The only point I can give you is, against a diesel, steam locomotives produce less harmful exhaust, as coal is primarily CO2, whereas diesel has NOx, HC, CO2 and such, but again, as was found during dieselization, you could run less locomotives and still run the same tonnage due to less down time which could lead to less emission, but I can't be bothered running the numbers. This is all without mentioning electric locomotives which are even better as they are theoretically gain their power all from a centralized engine (a power plant) in comparison to a diesel where each carries their own less efficient engine. This is coming from someone who loves steam trains by the way.