It would be nice to have an outline of the tool and the hole marks so a homemade die can be made. It's not a difficult tool to use or make, not sure why it is still so expensive. Based on a visual, on bank 1, the exhaust cam tone wheel hole is 90 degrees to the right from vertical and is pointing towards the intake cam. The Intake cam hole is about at the 5:30/7:30 position, depending on if you're looking at the cam side (5:30) of the tone wheel or from the back of the engine (7:30).
@franklinhancock71902 ай бұрын
Very good information. Great job Sir!!!
@darylneal44782 ай бұрын
They are still over 150$ a year later
@edu4hd04 ай бұрын
Would be nice to have a 3D model of this tool
@bernardocisneros44022 ай бұрын
I'm sure it would but I don't think Chrysler or anyone that paid full price for it would want you to have it.
@GtrsNCars4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video! Saved my ass!
@MarcoVarela-p2u4 ай бұрын
Where are you located
@luthergrant73364 ай бұрын
2 locations In Jacksonville Arkansas
@MarcoVarela-p2u4 ай бұрын
Where do you have your shop bro ?
@gasparmomox98084 ай бұрын
I have the gages only to Mexico.
@leonardoordunalugo4010Ай бұрын
Tienes la herramienta?
@shawnwines74904 ай бұрын
Have u ever seen the tone wheel covered in gunk and metal wear causing inaccurate readings? I have a 2019 jeep grand cherokee laredo 3.6l and it has a slightly rough idle and engine feels like it surges or misses with no cel or codes. Also the voltage will drop when this happens. At idle voltage drops but rpm increases from 600 to 650 briefly then r3covers. Dealership couldn't find the problem. I'm desperate for a fix bro please help
@juliotorres5125 ай бұрын
If you decide to buy this tool please do yourself a favor And spend the extra money and buy the factory Miller tool and don't buy the aftermarket option because I did spend the extra $50 dollars because I have seen The aftermarket tool and The markings are different and confusing 😮 And buy the Way The aftermarket tool is about 250 and the original one is about $300 not cheap 😮😮😮
@MoisesVazquezEspinoza5 ай бұрын
Thank You soo much
@ws26645 ай бұрын
Damn dude that was really good, I would like to find that tool somewhere. What's the recommended fix, replace the cam? That hole was so far off you didn't need the pin. Do you think I could order that part thru Chrysler?
@hectorquetel66405 ай бұрын
Hey where can you buy the tool?
@luthergrant73365 ай бұрын
It is out of stock on the mopar essentials website. I just checked and the only place that has a set listed for sale is FreedomRacing.com
@MikeZab15 ай бұрын
Luther, Where are you located ? Do you work on customer's 3.6 engines ? Great Video !
@Andy-gw7hd6 ай бұрын
When I took my covers off I see alot of grease on the toner wheel is that normal is it ok to clean off
@luthergrant73365 ай бұрын
Grease? Only asking because if its silver or metallic in color its metal sticking to the magnetic segments of the tone wheels. i suggest wiping it off with a paper towel or shop rag. Avoid using harsh cleaners. No need for brake cleaner etc it will 99.9 percent of the time wipe off. Those tome wheels can be damaged with certain cleaners if not used properly so that's why use a rag of some sort
@Andy-gw7hd5 ай бұрын
@@luthergrant7336thanks for replay back. Yea that was my though I’m getting a no start it died on me and won’t start back I changed every thing electrical you can think of just not the harness and when I was about to change phasers I notice the toners being junk on them I was thinking maybe it’s build up material and blocking the signals to start. Do you even think that’s possible to cause a no start
@luthergrant73365 ай бұрын
@@Andy-gw7hd I haven't ever had buildup cause any problems. A slight wonky scope signal but not any starting issues.
@Andy-gw7hd5 ай бұрын
Ok thank you
@Steve_Edberg6 ай бұрын
Not all vehicles can you go by "left bank" and "right bank." Some models, primarily the Town and Country and Grand Caravan have the engine orientated east-west in the bay so your "right bank" is really the rear bank and the "left bank" is the front bank. However one tried and true method of determining bank 1 and bank 2 is that bank 1 always has cylinders 1, 3 and 5 while bank 2 has 2, 4 and 6. Bank 1, the odd bank is the one where the head is most forward. It's always on the right, or passenger side of the car in north-south configurations or back in east-west. Bank 2 is the even bank and always on the left (driver's) side for N-S or front on E-W cars.
@Andy-gw7hd6 ай бұрын
Then won’t bank one always be on left side of oil cam on all 3.6
@Steve_Edberg6 ай бұрын
@@Andy-gw7hd oil cam??
@Steve_Edberg6 ай бұрын
@@Andy-gw7hd if you look at the engine from the back side, opposite the serpentine belt, bank 1 is on the right side. Bank 1 is passenger side on N-S engines and inside closest to the firewall on E-W engines.
@lard18927 ай бұрын
So you fix what the dealers can't???....Right
@bernardocisneros44022 ай бұрын
It just goes to show how ignorant people can be and still open their mouths. There's a lot of very good mechanics that are called in by dealerships when they can't figure out what's wrong with a vehicle.
@joeychile87707 ай бұрын
I hope you’re able to jump back on the tube and continue to create content brother. You’ve answered a lot more than a 15,000 page service manual could!
@xXturbo86Xx8 ай бұрын
But HOW would these move out of alignment?
@bernardocisneros44022 ай бұрын
With time they can become loose. Just part of the wear and tear process. A result of using cheap low quality at factory
@pixelparade8 ай бұрын
Great video!
@brianreeves46098 ай бұрын
Hi I had tick so I put in all new lifters n. Roller rockers on 3.6 p. Star now I have code p0300 po301 stored p0345 po390 could you please tell me what it is I need to do to to correct it thank you Brian
@bernardocisneros44022 ай бұрын
Have someone else check the timing and go from there.
@pedrobarria65929 ай бұрын
Hola buenas noches cónsul soy de chile Dodge puede conseguir es a herramienta
@bryancarrion55699 ай бұрын
Anyone know where I can buy these alignment tools there are all sold out
@ivanvelikov675910 ай бұрын
Great video! On same engine I just replaced camshafts, rockers and lifters. Now i have even louder ticking noise from before. No codes come on. Everything is running smoothly. Only on 4th speed around 1600rpm i get little jurkwhen accelerate smoothly. Any thoughts on that? Thanks!
@DWIGHTSMITH11 ай бұрын
Fantastic information !!! This video really helped my question. 🙌
@Banix420 Жыл бұрын
Quick question bro...what if I keep getting the p0018 but already replaced both camshaft with tonewheels but the code only pops up on a cold start...after that I can drive the car all day and the light won't come back...only on my first 2 to 3 starts I keep getting a p0018
@MikeZab15 ай бұрын
Following... Did you ever get the P0018 code to stop ? Thanks
@bernardocisneros44022 ай бұрын
Remove your VVT solenoids and clean them with brake cleaner and lint-free rag. Then clean the hole where the VVT solenoid goes in as well as you can. Only use brake cleaner on the VVT solenoids after they're removed from the engine and don't use brake cleaner to clean the hole they go into. You can use a little bit of SeaFoam to clean the hole. If this doesn't fix it, you will have to teardown engine far enough to clean the passages between VVT solenoids and phasers. You'll also have to check phasers to make sure they're locked in place to the camshaft. The camshaft shouldn't rotate independently of the phaser when engine is not running. There's a lockpin that keeps them locked when there's no oil pressure. It' goint to be one of these 2 things. If you're the original owner, then you have to do more frequent oil changes. Most of the time this is a result of not changing your oil at recommended intervals with good quality oil and filter. Sludge builds up and it block oil flow to the VVT solenoids and phasers.
@robthompson343 Жыл бұрын
Hello, great video!! I replaced the lifters and rockers on my son’s 2014 charger, typical tick. While trying to take off the bank one valve cover the studs from the valve cover gouged the tone wheel. The car has a long crank no start now. It is in time, is it possible that the gouged wheel is causing the issue? Thank you
@bernardocisneros44022 ай бұрын
No, a gouged tone wheel would NOT cause a no start. The PCM has 3 other tone wheels and CKP sensor to determine timing.
@centrotecnico7146 Жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias por la información yo soy de México no encuentro la herramienta crees que me podrías proporcionar los planos de tu herramienta de antemano muchas gracias
@diegorojas5740 Жыл бұрын
Donde puedo conseguir esa herramienta
@KONERCRU Жыл бұрын
my friend i need this tool who sell
@lard189211 ай бұрын
Mopar dealer
@jaymortensen642 Жыл бұрын
Great video, one correction for the timing chain its 12 rivets or 6 links but we get the point. Do you know of a way to check chain wear or stretch, in my motorcycle days you could check wear by pulling the chain up off the sprocket at the center of its wrap and you should see no more than half the tooths valley, you also would check tension by pushing down on the chain between the two sprockets, I would think any wear, stretch or wrong tension could create backlash that would set miss fires codes most likely both sensor 1 and sensor 2 of that bank because it would effect both intake and exhaust cams.
@markwagner5827 Жыл бұрын
Had a dealer chaged bank 1 intake phaser and oil control valve. Transmission starts off in D3 when driving, assuming the engine codes 0000A, AND PO017, CODES, ONLY HAS 102,000 MILES. CHANGED CAM POS SENSOR BANK 1. TONE RING ON INTAKE CAM LOOKS LIKE SCRATCH IN IT. COULD THIS BE CAUSING THESE CODES? WEIRD 2 CODES ON EXH, AND INTAKE ON SAME BANK 1. CHAIN DOESN'T SEEM STRETCHED, MAYBE TENSIONER! NO CODES FOR BANK 2. THANK YOU
@joesmo4749 Жыл бұрын
I've done a lot of 3.6 pentastars. Usually when you have a correlation code on the 3.6 in many of my situations it's always been a bad cam phaser.
@Alialmaliki185 ай бұрын
Does that cause the car to like run rich and drive a little rough? Because I just got a p0340 and it’s acting up
@joesmo47495 ай бұрын
@@Alialmaliki18 it certainly can cause your timing for that camshaft is bouncing back and forth
@markmangano1731 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video thank you mark mangano dependable auto wartburg tennessee
@jorgehernandezdicex1237 Жыл бұрын
Please help a mechanic who ruined my car, he only changed the lifters and rockers. Now I have a check engine, the scanner indicates bank 2, sensor 1. A new sensor was installed and it still shows. Please, my car starts and runs, it only takes a while to make changes and it doesn't go into overdrive.
@jorgehernandezdicex1237 Жыл бұрын
ayuda por favor un mecánico hecho a perder mi auto solo cambio los elevadores y balancines. ahora tengo check engine, el escaner indica banco 2 sensor 1. se puso sensor nuevo y aun marca. por favor mi auto prende y camina solo tarda al hacer cambios y no entra sobremarcha.
@ahmedjasim8702 Жыл бұрын
Thanks ..does this tool available on ebay ?
@lard189211 ай бұрын
Mopar dealer is best place to buy
@mbmauto-mobilerepair Жыл бұрын
I need to replace my camshafts for a reluctor ring issue. It runs fine with no noises. Would it be okay to reuse the phaser/ocv in your opinion
@lard189211 ай бұрын
yes
@GuyWiegand-h8q Жыл бұрын
if I'm understanding this right, the tool shows if its out of time? if the timing marks are correct and the tune wheel is off, how is it adjusted?
@lard189211 ай бұрын
new cam
@bernardocisneros44022 ай бұрын
The reason you do this is to find out if the toner wheel has become loose and shifted. If it has become loose, you will be able to rotate it by hand, so you adjust it by rotating it with your hand. Another reason you would do this is when replacing a camshaft and the new camshaft you bought doesn't come with toner wheel. That's what the tool is for. Once you set the timing by aligning the arrows on the phasers to point directly to each other, you then place the tool like he shows in the video, and align the holes in the tool to the holes on both toner wheels by sticking the pins through the tool and toner wheels. After you do that, you mark the toner wheel and the camshaft, take off the toner wheel and use an appropriate adhesive to set the tone wheel in place.
@mothership1985 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Very helpful
@KaldekBoch Жыл бұрын
Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics just had this on a supposedly rebuilt Pentastar. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIW8dqVnlMRopJo
@mazomopar2156 Жыл бұрын
Good catch. I headed over this way after watching Ivan's struggles. Think this little piece of aluminum would have helped alot
@2nickles647 Жыл бұрын
Luther. Ive watched your video. I want to thank fir the posting and a teaching experience from you. Other automotive mechanic or Techs are being blamed for reluctor wheels moving. Rather than blame someone. You posted a detail way of using a tool to verify. Again Sir thank you. God bless you Sir
@gfbemc0256 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, excellent video. What is the correct repair, a new camshaft? Has anyone considered TIG welding the wheel to the camshaft?
@marossgnv Жыл бұрын
Who knows what the heat will do to the magnetic ring.
@gfbemc0256 Жыл бұрын
@@marossgnvTIG welding uses localized heat, I doubt it would heat the reluctor wheel enough to damage it or it’s magnetism. The wheel would not need a full weld, just a few tack welds. What is the recommended method of repair now, replacing the camshaft?
@bernardocisneros44022 ай бұрын
@@gfbemc0256 TIG welding is not a good option. The tone wheel is very sensitive. Best way is to use an adhesive that's heat resistant up to 300 degrees Farenheit or higher and oil resistant.
@وليدابوعوه-ل3ش Жыл бұрын
😊 👍
@winstonhoyte873 Жыл бұрын
Hi Luther Grant. I did look at the Chrysler 3.6 tone wheel tool. I am impress.Any how i am having issues with a 2008 jeep wrangler unlimited 3.8 Liter.I did scan for trouble code P0304/P0300 Stored. Could i use my lab scope to check this problem. Let me know how to check for cam and crank synchronization. Let me know how to proceed. Regards. Winston.
@bernardocisneros44022 ай бұрын
If you have a 4 channel scope, backprobe the CMPs and CKP and connect to scope to see waveforms, then compare waveforms to known good waveforms.
@Ricky-fy1jp Жыл бұрын
Hopefully you’re around still. Don’t give up on making videos. You know your stuff
@Grizzle_Uno Жыл бұрын
Can you use magnetic viewing film to verify if the tone wheel was damaged by a magnet? My magnetic pickup tool accidentally touched the tone wheel
@marcsciarrotta3109 Жыл бұрын
I just did my rocker arms and I also used a magnetic pickup tool and I think I touched it to the tone wheel. I have a p0349 code that won't clear and I'm stuck in limp mode. Probably gonna need both cams for bank 2. Why do they design these like this??!!
@Grizzle_Uno Жыл бұрын
@marcsciarrotta3109 Dang, that sucks! I was fortunate enough not to have any codes thrown once I put everything back together. I guess I just got lucky. That was one of the things that most videos don't talk about is the magnetic part of the tonewheel mostly everybody talked about the cam phaser and its sensitivity to magnetic tools. When I did use the film it did show the magnetic field and it look normal so maybe try that first and see if the magnetic waves are disrupted because if it's not, it honestly might be something else. Good luck and hopefully you find out the problem, I couldn't imagine having to tear it back down again
@tedknudstrup6101 Жыл бұрын
Great information and video. Thank you for making it