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@XPrimeMoverX 2 ай бұрын

What am I to do? You sometimes drive me crazy...🙃

@bradhart6487 Жыл бұрын

I think Neil's in ear monitors are mostly drums with perhaps no guitar and a bit of vocal.. A very strange mix to play to...and probably part of why a mistake like this - zoning out and jumping ahead to the next section - could easily happen to him.

@mikeloosemore6301 2 жыл бұрын

0:36-0:50 it actually dosen't sound that bad

@mattmccutcheon8597 3 жыл бұрын

Fraud! I have this show and I'm telling you that it was perfect. Whoever made this and posted this is not cool at all!

@jhinerman 3 жыл бұрын

What? I was there.

@mattmccutcheon8597 3 жыл бұрын

@@jhinerman are you talking about Oklahoma?

@mattmccutcheon8597 3 жыл бұрын

@@jhinerman I apologize if this is for real but it's not what I have on video if it's the Oklahoma show

@jhinerman 3 жыл бұрын

@@mattmccutcheon8597 It’s from Bristol VA 2015

@SamuelLawson 3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call it a train-wreck - it's barely perceptible unless, like most Rush fans, you've heard the song a thousand times, playing air drums in the car. Just a temporary brain-fart. Every musician gets them.

@BrigidFitch2112 3 жыл бұрын

I saw one (unfortunately no video) on R30 in Noblesville, IN where they were playing La Villa Strangioto. Alex came in 2 measures early in the last section, and wasn't paying attention. Geddy stayed eye locked with Neil to stay with him, jumped up and down to try to clue Alex in, just shrugged, and carried on. It never did come together even at the end when even Geddy and Neil weren't together. They're human - it happens. The last several seconds it sounded like they were all on about a half-second delay from each other. Total mess.

@donniecastleman5701 3 жыл бұрын

It happens. No shade thrown on these awesome guys.

@jhinerman 3 жыл бұрын

Not at all. They’re human.

@mikes9316 3 жыл бұрын

All he did was play the next stage of the song early, but he played it to perfection. He played at :19 what he should have played at :43. He played the right parts at the wrong time, and they still held it together before the end, now those are pros. Notice Alex and Geddy just kept playing their parts as if Neil was playing correctly, because they knew Neil would eventually find his way back and they would finish it out. That's how you do it.

@SeanBauzay 3 жыл бұрын

It’s amazing really

@usejustonce2386 Жыл бұрын

It's definitely amazing but no... that's not how you do it. Musicians are supposed to play WITH each other not IN SPITE OF each other. I love Rush but this is just NOT what I would have expected out of musicians of their caliber.

@mikes9316 Жыл бұрын

Bro, if you’re a performer, you know the show must go on. As well as this was played, by the time you realize it’s off, it’s almost over. Pushing through live is FAR better than stopping. The person who’s off can stop just long enough to reacquire, but that’s it. Anything more and the train goes off the rails. Bravo, guys!

@bobkitt-music 3 жыл бұрын

Still sounds better than most live bands.

@floouk 3 жыл бұрын

good God! Rush are human!!

@dcb1138 3 жыл бұрын

Neil does say in an interview his in ear monitors were only bass and lyrics. No guitar. Explains the error.

@johncoleman4986 3 жыл бұрын

The guitar is missing from the PA there too.

@CustomGames-wg9gv 3 жыл бұрын

all those air drummers were way off, LOL

@uberanalysis2599 3 жыл бұрын

Wow

@chrisspringer2744 3 жыл бұрын

Ouch! That went on for a while. Funny, the biggest train wreck I ever saw happen (besides this one) was also during DEW, at Jones Beach. Don’t remember which tour, but I’m positive about the song.

@davidjames1684 4 жыл бұрын

Washed up band.

@dorian2112 4 жыл бұрын

they are human!!

@oldsrocket8841 4 жыл бұрын

You over did that quite a bit. I was there.

@AdamDeanMusic 4 жыл бұрын

This is probably one of the most fascinating mistakes I’ve ever heard. If you listen carefully, Neil is playing his drum part perfectly after Alex’s solo... DURING Alex’s solo! He basically jumped ahead 16 measures and kept going! I can only assume that something went off in his in-ear monitor mix where he played along to whatever he was hearing, and couldn’t properly hear where Geddy and Alex were. I am amazed they were able to sync back up later, let alone finish the song! It’s their professional handling of mistakes like this which makes me admire them even more as musicians and people. They simply “got on with it!”

@futureshock7425 4 жыл бұрын

that's a tricky drum fill anyway!

@paultomori 4 жыл бұрын

a true trainwreck in a live situation is when you get off the tracks and CAN"T get back on the tracks. With the 7/8 timing that overlapped this particular "flub", it's amazing they recovered.... but they did.

@kevinkiso8143 5 жыл бұрын

Samples and pre recorded parts will bite even the best in the ass...

@larrylar2112 5 жыл бұрын

shit happens

@OKCMark1 6 жыл бұрын

The tempo was a little faster than normal. Plus some improvising going on. However, Rush's worst day is still awesome. 😁

@Jeff-o-Lee 6 жыл бұрын

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqfWZmacYpKpo6M Good documentary. 1 of 4 or 5 @ 42:05, monitor mix engineer says Rush don't use click tracks live.

@johndhalgren9804 6 жыл бұрын

I remember back on the Vapor Trails tour in Charlotte (their 3rd show of the tour I think). There was a similar train wreck that happened in the same section of the song. I think when Neil felt particularly "frisky" he would try and stretch out drumming wise in the song. I'm pretty sure that section is in 7 so it shouldn't be new territory for Neil. Still for the song to get to that point of almost smashing into the earth, but have the guys pull up just at the last moment, speaks volumes to their professionalism!

@benjaminleimkuhler6812 7 жыл бұрын

I this was after Neil had stopped caring.

@larrylar2112 5 жыл бұрын

ever play in front of 20,000 people..... probably not.

@JohnDoe-ym5ly 3 жыл бұрын

lol!!!

@paules0099 7 жыл бұрын

Train wreck = unrecoverable, meaning the song stops. More like a gaffe cause the song continues and the gaffer catches up!

@willhare5454 7 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't call it a train wreck but pretty sloppy.

@markusaurelius777 7 жыл бұрын

Sequencers for Neil in his ear monitors were prob out of sync...

@dorian2112 7 жыл бұрын

actually not a wreck as the beat was still there and the fills, just a little early is all. if anyone was listening who did not know this tune would have never known.

@stevedrums1675 8 жыл бұрын

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@dannobman07 8 жыл бұрын

I was there...It was bad . The whole place got quiet and everyone looked at each with a WTF !!? expression......Then it was good again .

@oldsrocket8841 7 жыл бұрын

dannobman07. I was there too with great seats and I caught it right away but it didn't seem like those around me did or they didn't care. One thing for sure his that it was very hot out that day and by the third song I was sweating bad and I was only air drumming. I remember thinking, poor Neil. I thought the set list was full of some of Neil's more structured songs and I was concerned that he would'nt be able to go the full tour. I also saw them in Buffalo (VIP) & Newark(VIP), second row directly in front of Alex Mic stand. Wow! What a night that was. The Buffalo show was flawless and would have been a great one for the live recording. Michael Moore sat around 5 rows behind me in Newark and I snaped a selfie with him and I met Ray Daniels.

@funkilus 6 жыл бұрын

Wow!

@MainlineProductions1 9 жыл бұрын

I can get back on, I can get back on....

@jwaldman69 9 жыл бұрын

It finally happened

@markusaurelius777 7 жыл бұрын

Yep....They are human. :P

@richardfitzpatrick1267 9 жыл бұрын

grace under pressure

@pulseofdefiance_ 9 жыл бұрын

I was at this show, I caught onto it when it happened. It was a shocker because in my lifetime of listening and seeing Rush, Neil never screws up. I almost cried. I understand the boys are in their 60's now and I guess I take it for granted of how awesome and solid they've been for all these years. But I can always appreciate the professionalism to keep it going and get it back in time. Other than than this and the equip. malfunction during 2112.... the show and the band as always was still magical.

@tolwyn_doom 9 жыл бұрын

It actually makes me wonder how they rehearse and what is pumped into their in-ear monitors. Does Neil just listen to a studio version of the song and play along or does he "truly" hear Geddy and Alex? Watching this, I'm assuming more the former. Which kinda ruins what I would consider a part of the magic in their show.

@heraldyoman9716 9 жыл бұрын

Tolwyn The former would be improbable though. Their live performance is different from the studio versions. So Neil probably had the drum tracks memorized though he was somewhat off.

@tolwyn_doom 9 жыл бұрын

Herald Yoman Yes, but some of their songs depend upon even NON-triggered synth parts for synching (Big Money, Red Sector A, this song, etc.) There are parts that neither Alex nor Geddy "trigger." The interesting question I meant was that Neil should be hearing Alex and Geddy's parts, too, as well as Geddy's singing...

@heraldyoman9716 9 жыл бұрын

Tolwyn but maybe it is. I will look into that.

@jwaldman69 9 жыл бұрын

+Tolwyn Seeing that Neil got right back in as soon as geddy started singing im pretty sure he can hear them, maybe certain instruments to a lesser extent. He was also sick and feeling ill that night.

@aaronsibley 8 жыл бұрын

I watched a snakes documentary and he mostly has him self I believe with the other guys changing in levels depending on the song, like for limelight he needs to hear alex in the beginning then the levels change to have more of himself

@kevbelz 9 жыл бұрын

Nearly perfect show at MSG last night, DEW was perfect, and electrifying.

@kljhadfdhafklj 9 жыл бұрын

Big goof, but far from a "train wreck". So easy to criticise, so hard too do something.

@dylanlevan299 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@satamique 9 жыл бұрын

But Neil dont hear Alex or Geddy to adjust he's playing? But it's nice to hear a guitar and drum solo at the same time lol!

@ericchavarria4436 9 жыл бұрын

Neil was really toughing it out that night. His words: "Though for that last one at the Bristow amphitheater I was under attack from a bug that gave me stomach cramps, general malaise, and light-headedness-but everyone else seemed to have a good time."

@ericchavarria4436 9 жыл бұрын

Eric Chavarria Source: www.neilpeart.net/index.php/space-for-news-items/june-2015-backstage-byways/

@ericchavarria4436 9 жыл бұрын

Eric Chavarria Source: www.neilpeart.net/index.php/space-for-news-items/june-2015-backstage-byways/

@filomeelo 9 жыл бұрын

Remember, those men are in their sixties with numerous aging ailments playing songs now from decades ago is amazing in itself. To come out one more time and give their fans one more glorious tour is even more incredible. To post mistakes and criticizes them, unbelievable. Why post stuff like this, I don't understand. What significance is this. What type of Rush fan points out their mistakes.

@PanasonicYouth21 9 жыл бұрын

Philip Santillan I'm as big as a Rush fan as they come, and I don't mind this whatsoever. It's not a criticism, at all- it's quite the anomaly for Neil to be off so significantly and noticeably as he is in this video. They're such an absolute fucking machine as a live performing band that it's really very interesting to be reminded that they're still human at the end of the day.

@MrDeppness 9 жыл бұрын

Can you imagine the humiliation Neil must have been feeling afterward? Granted, we know he can still nail all of these parts just fine, but when you go asleep at the wheel, the trainwreck is bound to happen.

@heraldyoman9716 9 жыл бұрын

***** Neil Peart never gets humiliated. Most drummers would still praise him for that

@MrDeppness 9 жыл бұрын

Herald Yoman You obviously don't know Neil Peart as a person. Only as a mythological icon. He gets embarrassed often.

@heraldyoman9716 9 жыл бұрын

***** My bad, I wasn't being serious before. I actually do know how introverted he is.

@MrDeppness 9 жыл бұрын

Herald Yoman Then why did you-never mind. All good. Muting this post. Peace.

@MrDeppness 9 жыл бұрын

@jhinerman 9 жыл бұрын

UPDATED: Here's an updated version with the audio from before the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3-XZZifnd2kjsU

@ziggyzagzi8017 9 жыл бұрын

2112 was off and on big time here at Jiffy. Alex changed axes 3 x

@tommyjohns9987 9 жыл бұрын

Ziggyzag Zi He broke a string (which is a lot more noticeable when he plays a signature Access LP with the whammy bar) and traded to another guitar temporarily. He kept looking off stage for the tech to restring it and give it back. Then he switched back again instead of just finishing the song with the flame top LP.

@jiffyware 9 жыл бұрын

That bass that Geddy is using screwed everyone up. He should have used the Steinberger like on the original recording.

@PanasonicYouth21 9 жыл бұрын

jiffyware Uh... I doubt that. He's used the Jazz bass the last two times they've played DEW on tour (Vapor Trails and S&A) so it's not some issue with familiarity.

@mikem.3308 9 жыл бұрын

2013 Baltimore show, this was the biggest screw up of the night and very noticeable. I'm not a guitarist but it sounds like he started the run @ :44 too low on the frets and just worked his way up/wrong from there. The other 99.9% of the show was INCREDIBLE. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHO7mZmLgcihf6s

@mikem.3308 9 жыл бұрын

We thought he was doing a new fill and then realized he had lost his place. My jaw dropped to the floor, I've never heard this happen. He's human after all :)

@jasaggio 9 жыл бұрын

it happens..even to the best; at least we know there ain't no lip, er "drum-syncing" going on. They handled well and got back on with it.

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