Absolutely! I'm glad it's working this time, and that I managed to figure out what to look for right at the beginning to make sure it would work. And while I personally agree 100% that there can never be too many roads, the poor janitors who have to maintain them all might eventually disagree... :)

@@GHondo well it’s not like they aren’t already busy enough lol

Oh no! That's terrible! I'll have a look. Sad face. :(

Yes, it definitely is. From what little I've played so far, it seems more focused on the city builder side than the management side, although it might transition in the middle to late game. Not sure yet! :)

@GHondo City builders do tend to have a management side to them too lol

I was hoping to save it, simply because I spent so long looking around the map for a good start point (there really needs to be an overlay or something for that), but you're probably right, I don't think it can be saved. Unfortunate, but hopefully whatever it was that broke was just a one-time fluke.

@@GHondo look at it this way. You might find an even better place next time

I've thought about that a few times now, and I'm still torn on that one. On the one hand, it would eliminate the need for a pump, as it would be a completely enclosed loop once it's been primed once, thus saving power, which is very good. On the other hand, unless I go up to 5 skimmers (which is how many 1 sieve can support), it's wasting some of the cleaning value (where as now, I get the excess clean water back in my perpetually low clean water pool). So I'm really not sure. I suppose if I ever feel the need to add yet more skimmers, then it'll definitely be worth it, but with just 3, I'm torn. On the wood/ethanol side, no, I haven't actually run the numbers but you're right, I probably should do that at some point. :)

As a follow up - the math was doing my head in (I'm having a bad headache day today), so I wimped out & asked the ONI Wiki, something I normally hate doing. Turns out the Wood Burner and Ethanol versions are very close to identical in terms of efficiency, so I'll probably just have some of each. The other thing it told me is I probably have too many trees. Oh well, can't be bad to have more trees than you need, right? :)

@@GHondo if you have more trees than you need then that means you can send some to the other planet for power

A marvelous idea, as always. Thanks! :)

Oh, yes, excellent call. I had forgotten about that one, and you're right, it does look quite promising. I'll add it to the list! Thanks! :)

I decided that rather than fight with it, I would just add a mod that lets me force the direction without messing around. Not the ideal solution (I hate adding mods mid series in case something breaks), but I figured it was better than having a long, one-sided argument with the game, an argument which I would probably lose... :)

That'd be a great start, also I'm subbing to your channel, I haven't watched any vids but Ima do it

Awesome, thanks so much! I hadn't heard of Undertale, but I'll check it out. :)

Good eyes! I definitely didn't notice any sleet wheat over there, but I wasn't really looking for it, so I could easily have missed it. And it's fair, I was planning on leaving that huge area open for a large pool, but it's never going to have anywhere near that much liquid, so I probably should just close it off into a much smaller pool. I'm sure the pump will handle it. Thanks for the great tips! I'll leave myself a note for my next recording session. :)

Yes, you are absolutely right, coal has been a problem for some time, and it won't be getting better any time soon... I will be spending the next couple episodes working on coal alternatives, both for the home planetoid and the other one. :)

It has come a long way, that's for sure! :)

That's very helpful to know, thank you! It's definitely the slowest progressing meter, and then getting slowed down even more by all these Toxic Rains. Seems to be the game's favourite event at the moment.

@@GHondo The forestation plant can only take it to 40% anything above that has to be done using cloud seeding, 100 seeds into a rocket with some extra fuel at a time gaining 5% a pop, but the kicker is like I said before that what you seed on your area will start creating seeds from bushes onwards and that adds up if you spread your foresters out a bit

What a simple, yet fantastic idea! I can't believe I never thought of it. All this time I've been getting things in place to haul crude over, yet it never even remotely dawned on me to also bring water (polluted or otherwise). I'm already a few episodes ahead (I pre-record a lot), but I'm going to leave myself a note for my next recording session. Thanks! :)

@@GHondo don’t feel too bad it’s easy to miss things when you are juggling playing and entertaining at the same time.

They sure do! I later (finally) got smart, and put down several water towers to ease the burden while the lakes are filling. I'm surprised at how long it took to think of that, but anyway. :)

@@GHondo I love making lakes, that being said water is so effectively taken care of by planetary stuff that lakes feel more like just cosmetics.

Well, I do really like the look of them, so I certainly don't mind it. ;)

@@GHondo Oh and the higher the water the better your moisture vaporators are going to work.

I've pre-recorded a few episodes ahead now, so I can say yes, I will soon have 3 forestation plants going, and getting into the grasses. Haven't got to trees yet, but the grasses are looking good. :)

@@GHondo Trees takes forever getting to grass is nice, it starts paying for itself not long after that.

@@GHondo Also the forrestation plants only takes you to 40% globally, so trees are more or less just for your own viewing because the rest have to be done by rocket seeding.

@@GHondo As you progress though the forestation plants start making plants which actually produce their own seeds and that helps feed the rockets to seed the planet.

Thankfully, I don't consider watching your stuff as work, though - I do that for pleasure. :)

I am sorry if you are not enjoying it as much as you could be. It is absolutely true that while I have learned a fair bit about this game through playing it for half an hour a day, I still don't really know what I'm doing, but let me address your points in order if I may: 1 - The trucks driving under pipes part I did know about, but I still like to use ramps all over the place just to make sure the excavators can still get around. I do recognize I am placing way more of them than are really necessary most of the time (and often mention that while placing these excessive ramps), so it's now a bit of a joke. I guess isn't as funny as it could be... :) 2 - I do try to at least partially automate everything, but to actually fully automate everything at this point would likely require ripping almost the entire island apart and redoing it properly. I'm currently working around the legacy of the stuff I build at the very beginning when I had absolutely zero clue what I was doing. I had already been thinking about making Season 2, whenever that is, as a 100% automated setup. My idea was I have no more than a couple trucks, and they are only allowed to haul stuff for new construction, and absolutely nothing else. I thought that would make an interesting challenge. 3 - The turbines part I definitely did not know. From what I was reading in game, it sounded like they had to be short, but I guess I should have done more experimentation, so that's on me. In any rate, I definitely appreciate the tips, and I don't consider it back seating or being mean spirited or anything like that, so do not worry about it. I'm just trying really hard to put out content that people may actually enjoy, so any feedback is good feedback. Thanks so much!

Oh, it's not a problem. If it turns out I have way too much, I can always research the liquefier, or go back to my old build/destroy decorations habit. I'm sure it'll be fine either way. :)

I'm quite happy with the Green Planet DLC, that's for sure. The Space Race one (assuming that's the one that added Rival colonies to trade with), is also very good.

Ah, that would make sense. The fact that it already has a plug outlet made me think it already does, and that I simply didn't happen to have an exposed plug in enough spots. And yes, I have no doubt I could be doing things more efficiently - probably *far* better - but I give myself a pass because what makes sense to me when I record very early in the morning (with nowhere near enough coffees yet!) is not always good. Besides, sometimes it leads to fun discovery moments a few days later when I try to puzzle out what the heck I was thinking. :)

@@GHondo it does make good content when you don’t know what you were thinking lol

Perhaps I should fail more often... :)

@@GHondo as long as no one ends up like stinky it’ll be funny at least

I miss him terribly. Bubbles is lovely and all, but... it's just not the same. :)

never mind, you got it

I'm not sure how much I'm even going to try doing with Underground (or Asteroid) stuff this time around. I want to thoroughly conquer the Terraforming side, as it's definitely the coolest, so I don't know if I'm going to do anything with the others at all or just save them completely. Maybe make them a focus for a fresh game later? Haven't decided yet.

@@GHondo It's hard, the other underground is hard and dark and I don't think it will make for an interesting play through. I send an explorer down there if I can but that's about it.

So I should just skip it entirely for the YT series, then mess about with it on my own time later. Got it. :)

@@GHondo The mechanics down there are much different, you cant see anything other than what the drones light up so you have to micromanage everything.

Wow. It makes sense, but it just sounds annoying!

Absolutely. While I have no idea how long it will take, I definitely wanted to continue. Had I wrapped up after finishing the Mystery, the series would have been way too short. Although the Mystery was certainly very interesting in it's own right. :)

@@GHondo I like the mystery, but the green mars dlc kinda makes it a secondary thing :p Like it is a thing you need to get past to get to the goal which is known now, it's different that way.

I'm sure all the Mysteries are different, but this particular one felt very short to me, which in this case was a good thing. It seemed like it started very early (way earlier than Season 1's did) and just didn't last very long at all. I certainly didn't mind, it's basically just a distraction from the Terraforming, but I thought there should've been more to it.

@@GHondo Well they are random, but I think the game lowers the chance of getting the same one again if you finished one

If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times... :)

Oh yes, not to worry, I do end up doing that later on. What I found interesting is that when I then put a bunch of statues in (to use those same 3 squares), all of them built just fine. It's just weird, whatever caused it.

So true, it would have been super annoying to manually pump/bottle the stuff. Thankfully, I notice that shortly afterwards (during Ep 74), and am very happy to have done so. They will be very helpful. :)

Oh, I didn't know that! I will leave myself a note to try to break the habit of clearing it through the landscaping. It'll be a hard habit to break though, to be sure... :)

@@GHondo Don't liquify it neither that is a total waste, I am pretty sure getting the atmosphere up requires a huge amount of waste rock so just store it where you can, it can always be moved a bit if you find it is in the way

Thanks so much! Note to self updated. :)

Indeed! Thankfully, I haven't moved in quite a while, but I definitely remember all of the times I have over the years. In a word, "yuck!" :)

@@GHondo You just don't realise how much crap you got accumulated all over the place until you got to move it all :p

Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed! Given a choice between local mining and offshore mining, I'll take offshore every time. :)

I don't officially have a middle name, but if I did, it might just be spaghetti. It's a good thing I don't worry too much about design aesthetics. :)

It was definitely annoying! :) I do wish there was some indication when placing a dome that would tell you where it would fit with passages, or, at the very least, that you could place passages while the second dome is still in blueprint mode, rather than waiting until it's totally built and then having to tear it all down if it's wrong.

Thanks for the idea! I'm already a few episodes past there now, and I ended up going a different way, and rather than using a Tepedizer, I will be instead making a warming loop pipe, sending the brine down through the Natural Gas Generator room (since it's quite warm), so it ends up being much cheaper on power (a single pump at 240W instead of the Tepedizer's 960W).

@@GHondo huh that a great idea

It's definitely slower (a LOT slower!) this way, but it takes tons less power, and that is my main concern at this point. :)

So far so good. Haven't had a massive collapse yet. :)

Is there an easy way to see them on the map? I have only been told about the one so far and I don't remember seeing on the map later, or does the game expect me to remember where they all are?

@@GHondo No there is not, not as far as I am aware anyway, when you have surveyed them you can tell but before that there is no way of knowing.

Ah, fair enough. Disappointing, but I suppose it makes sense, you shouldn't know about these things ahead of time.

You're probably right. I have been thinking I'm going to need extras to support extra Fuel Refineries, since I'm going to be burning fuel in the GHG machine, right?

@@GHondo Yes that is a thing, like I said earlier the terraforming effort is a massive rescourse sink and it is awesome because it makes a goal for the game but you have to be carefull because it makes everything so much harder as well.

I will definitely be taking it slow, not to worry! At this point, I'm trying to just stockpile food & water (which is a good thing to do anyway), in preparation for the eventual terraforming. I'm quite excited to see how it works! :)

That certainly is a good idea. I half a vague half-memory of that crossing my mind at some point (however briefly) but for some reason I decided not to do so. I think after messing with the heating loop (which took me far too long to do and then still failed basically instantly), I just had to make the Tepedizer method work out of sheer stubbornness. :)

@@GHondo at least with the tempidizer you(mostly) avoid spaghetti piping lol

Very true. I can't even imagine the mess I would make trying to get a pipe down and back without breaking anything. :)

@@GHondo it’s not like the dups are busy or anything

Thanks for the comment! And not to worry, I've long since abandoned that well as you are absolutely right, it was taking ages to haul. Currently, I do not do any oil drilling on my island at all, I have everything coming in from an Offshore Well, which I setup somewhere around Episode... 18 to 20, or thereabouts?

I'm not sure which I miss more, Shuttle Hubs or Fusion Reactors. It's pretty close... :)

Well, as of this morning, I've just finished recording Episode 4, and I haven't catastrophically failed yet, so I must be doing something right. Or at least not too terribly wrong. :)

Well, to be fair, it should be a very slow process to change the ecosystem of an entire planet, right? So I certainly don't mind that. :) It is unfortunate that you can't get at least some leftover seeds from normal farming, but that's fine. :)

@@GHondo Then again if you are stuck on mars I imagine you would be fairly selective on the plants you grow, not sure what biologists are like but the engineer in me would want to commit suicide if I had a plant that produced nothing more than I needed and I chose one that produced extra of anything what so ever :p

I don't know any biologists, but I do know a lot of engineers, and you are right, exact specifications are the only way, even a bonus (of something helpful) is considered a mistake, let alone if something falls short. :)

It should definitely last a good while! :)

I suppose that will come in handy at some point, but seems less than helpful this early in the game.

@@GHondo Your right it is not very helpful for a good little long while and even later it just saves time so it is never really super useful.

Good to know! I guess it's good I'm now such an expert at the game, having thorough conquered Vanilla at the absolute easiest skill settings... :)

@@GHondo I am still having a hard time in surviving mars on easy, but I can't help but consider it a failure if I don't beat the AI to all of the achievements :p

That certainly is an amazing feat to pull off! :)

I quite like it. Always looking to make things more and more efficient, while trying to balance all sorts of interconnected parts. In a way it reminds me of Factorio (if you play with no biters, that is). :)

I quite like it. Always looking to make things more and more efficient, while trying to balance all sorts of interconnected parts. In a way it reminds me of Factorio (if you play with no biters, that is). :)

@@GHondo I'm new to factorio, been playing for 2 days. Really nice game. I play with biters, makes me think I'm in the world of starship troopers

Awesome! I'd never made that connection, but that makes a lot of sense. And what a great movie... "Everybody Fights, No One Quits!" :)

@@GHondo I'm on my first ever playthrough of factorio, and the fact I haven't really played much of the tutorial combined with the fact that I connect my earbuds to my phone and listen to educational videos while playing it I made one discovery after another and have placed turrets all around and am keeping them supplied with piercing bullets. The bugs just don't have a chance. Now I'm trying to build the artillery turret so that we can "sweep" the area

I do the same, turrets absolutely everywhere! I just run a long single conveyor belt in a huge circle around the whole base, so an ammo factory can keep a continuous chain of ammo ready for whichever turret need it. Having said that, wait until you start using oil for flamethrower turrets. There are few words for how much fun it is the first time they light the night up... :)

Amazing! :)

It's a lovely thing, isn't it? :)