I appreciate the video, i'll be building something similar but with an electric motor. my main question is what specific springs are you using? whats the weight tension? could i increase the spring size to increase the hammer weight? p.s. for the threaded rod i think you would basically make a ladder at the top of your posts with cross pieces with a gap in the middle.. pin in one spot then use the rod with a drill to drive tension on your springs down which would be your adjustment.
@colesonchild2 күн бұрын
@@rationallyjustified Thanks for watching! I wish you luck on your build. The springs I used were 1" diameter coils, 11" long, and about 1/8" wire diameter. Theoretically if you had strong enough springs you could add a lot more weight. Just have to find the right balance between good return, and not too heavy of a treadle.
@larrywright70056 күн бұрын
Amazing job best wishes always God bless
@JimBrown-s5v29 күн бұрын
Because of your video I ended up building one of these. Excellent idea! Thanks for the design and motivation.
@colesonchild29 күн бұрын
@@JimBrown-s5v That's Awesome! Send my pictures if you can. Would love to see it!
@ImaLurkinАй бұрын
That is really cool. Well done!
@andrewtamuleveicius4183Ай бұрын
Do you have schematics you can sell ?
@colesonchildАй бұрын
@@andrewtamuleveicius4183 I do not. I need to figure that out. I have plans for a 2.0 version. I have no idea when I will be making that.
@andrewtamuleveicius4183Ай бұрын
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY 💵
@kalkirby2004Ай бұрын
I really like your operation your ideas and your excitement to make things I am a old guy love to make things tools and usable items. rounding up parts from my scrap pile to make this hammer. It looks like and inside measurement between the upright s is about 18 inches is that close
@colesonchildАй бұрын
@@kalkirby2004 Awesome, good luck! I want to say the distance between mine is 16 ". So pretty close.
@mrfirestop4152 ай бұрын
Treadle Hammer. Also known as the "Hoedown Hammer"
@colesonchild2 ай бұрын
@@mrfirestop415 That is way too accurate!
@timbrownblacksmithandknife56482 ай бұрын
I really like your concept here.
@freemab2222 ай бұрын
You might be interested in the considerations that went into my Grasshopper Treadle Hammer. Let me know if you'd like to discuss these issues: The Grasshopper Treadle Hammer is a vertical-motion hammer that uses no sliding or rolling parts to achieve the vertical motion, only pivots. The vertical motion provides accurate striking of the work or tool, regardless of its height or thickness. ... The principal advantage of using only pivot joints is to enable a longer stroke than can be easily achieved by other means. (Other designs employ rollers or sliders and must keep those devices “engaged” with the ram throughout its stroke.) ... The anvil is free of obstructions in all directions. The stroke of the hammer is 34 inches, and most of this stroke may be used effectively because the height of the treadle can be adjusted to accommodate for different work heights. Furthermore, through most of the hammer stroke there is no return force exerted upward against the foot. Only at the bottom of the stroke does a sudden increase in return force provide a kick-back to bring the hammer up for the next stroke. This point at which this kick-back force cuts in is automatically adjusted as the treadle is adjusted to accommodate different work heights. The treadle height adjustment is made by means of a hand crank mounted at the front of the hammer, where the user normally stands, so the user is not exposed to undue hazard (as by reaching under the hammer mechanism). Preliminary plans for the Grasshopper Treadle Hammer were released in 2000. After that first publication, a number of corrections and revisions were made and released in 2004. In this 2009 edition, the kickback mechanism has been completely redesigned -- improved and simplified - again.
@dannywayne79882 ай бұрын
Get u a coil spring comp. For removing car and truck coil springs . Make it easier and safer . Them springs can really hurt u bad . Hope this helps some . Looks good . And only one ive seen like it . Keep up the good work
@freemab2222 ай бұрын
A very clever design. You're aware of its potential weak points, so I won't dwell on them, but only make some suggestions you might consider. Always use the weakest possible springs that will hold the ram up and not stretch beyond their elastic limits when the ram is fully to the anvil. The reason is that a weak spring has a small spring constant, k, where F=kx, so the force needed to bring the ran to the anvil is the least possible. In your case, you might extend make the spring-mounting points further apart to accommodate such weaker springs at greater stretch. My Grasshopper Treadle Hammer, inspired in part by Clay Spencer's roller-blade-wheel hammer, was much criticized due to it's relative complexity of construction, but I chose that route to eliminate all sliders, to have maximum accuracy, 22" hammer travel, a weightless ram, 2:1 ram:treadle speed, and very fast adjustability in a single crank. DO NOT EVER put your hands between the ram and the anvil. Granted, the chances of that ram falling unexpectedly are small, but ask Clay Spencer whether they're non-zero!
@bRad730162 ай бұрын
I'm not a blacksmith but more of a hobby/professional machinist, mechanic. KZbin fed me your video and it caught my eye. I'm impressed at your ability to design a tool that works well for you (and will likely work well for others) with common materials and the intentional lack of precision out of neccesity (no bearings, wear strips, etc). I have build many tools and small machines over the years with the same motivation and they are some of the most useful, efficient, effective things I've ever made to suit my needs. Good job!!!!
@keithbotha89692 ай бұрын
I love the simplicity, I have been looking to build a treadle hammer and this design is pure genius, thank you for sharing.
@colesonchild2 ай бұрын
@@keithbotha8969 Thank you! Good luck.
@TheIdeanator3 ай бұрын
Thats a really nice design! The only thing I'd consider to be easy and beneficial is a brace across the top (which could be even just be pinned in for maintenance). As an engineer I agree with the omission of bearings and slide guides from a cost & ease of construction perspective because being a foot powered machine, you arent ever going to wear those components out. Hell, the 100 year old power hammers have only ever needed their tight tolerance bronze wear components replaced a few times in an industrial setting. All of that also has me considering some alterations to my power hammer build design for ease of building & maintenance.
@colesonchild3 ай бұрын
@@TheIdeanator Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. The original plan was to bolt on a bar across the top. But after testing I removed it. It was too ridged and the head would rock side to side and bind up. Letting it hang loose freed it up entirely and it has never bound up since. It seems very counterintuitive. But it works.
@sergeyw-l20983 ай бұрын
Good stuff dude. I was thinking about making something like your design and then I found your videos. I’m a wood worker though and I’m thinking of making the main body and frame from some strong oak.
@brucesherman56253 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the build of your new machine.
@brucesherman56253 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your videos with us
@colesonchild3 ай бұрын
@@brucesherman5625 Thank you for watching! I hope it helps.
@y-notforge89133 ай бұрын
..good advice. over-engineering doesn't hurt...
@deathsromath4 ай бұрын
Where do you live? Are you able to work outside year round? I thought about getting a lean-too set up for a 75kg I was looking at but some of those machines don’t like to be too cold
@colesonchild4 ай бұрын
@@deathsromath I live in Montana. My shop set up is working for now, and I'm really grateful for it, but it can be very uncomfortable at times. Winter here can get down below 10°. And in the summer it gets to about 100°. You're right about machines not liking to be cold. It's a challenge but it's all I have at the moment.
@kilroym1a14 ай бұрын
I'm a hobby blacksmith who has been wanting a good tredle hammer that if I spend the money to build will last me my life thank you for designing one that match that criteria
@y-notforge89134 ай бұрын
..another Good machine. i do like the "over-engineered" parts. Unlike industry today, you build something to last...!
@rpower14014 ай бұрын
Very nice setup. My shop is out of space or I might consider this. At the moment there's a Champion power hammer for sale near me but the price is a bit too steep and as mentioned I'm short of space. Which do you prefer, hydraulic or power hammer?
@colesonchild4 ай бұрын
I'm traditionally trained on power hammers. Using a press is new to me. But it depends on what process you need done. If you're drawing out long bars, power hammers are the way to go. If you're punching holes, the press is the way to go. Presses take up way less space and don't need a foundation. Power hammers allow for longer heats, and more forging. However you need a pretty large hammer to reach the same level of versatility that a standard size press can give you. So if I could only have one it might be the press. But of course the dream is to have a couple of both.
@rpower14014 ай бұрын
@@colesonchild Good points, thanks for the insights
@deathsromath4 ай бұрын
Get a couple thousand pounds of concrete under it’ll hit a lot harder
@ammarhawzar4 ай бұрын
Amazing
@marcmancini82754 ай бұрын
Wow...I was looking at making a Potvin style treadle hammer but this seems like less faff. nice
@thesub-5man7254 ай бұрын
Seems the base needs to be much heavier, and with cast iron. Lots of vibrations.
@waltcrawford61534 ай бұрын
You should draw up some plans and sell the plans for a modest price. It would generate some revenue and help your channel
@davidslater71874 ай бұрын
I like what you've built it is about as simple as it gets I think.
@Culvey4 ай бұрын
I just got all my basic blacksmithing supplies this week, and somehow stumbled on your channel after seeing a bunch of over complicated, and expensive, designs for power hammers and treadle hammers. As a dude who has no skills when it comes to metalworking, never touched a welder... this is slightly daunting but feels doable with a bit of practice and prep unlike all the other things I've seen. It also seems somewhat affordable, whereas most the others i have seen are costly enough you might as well save a little bit more and buy one. You may not have many subscribers/viewers, but your teaching style is better than most of the other blacksmithing pages with far more views/subs. I hope in the future (probably at least a year or two) I will build myself something like this.
@colesonchild4 ай бұрын
I appreciate the support! Good luck, and enjoy the process!
@IveysFamilyFactotum5 ай бұрын
I am newly subscribed to your channel and will at some point build this for my shop as I really like the design. One suggestion I would have for you to help you grow your channel is if recording with a phone, place that phone on the horizontal not vertical. Only short video formats (one minute or less) should be in the vertical format. Good luck with your blacksmithing and keep up the great work bud.
@brysonalden54145 ай бұрын
I certainly hope the H13 holds up better than the 5160 did! Can't imagine it won't.
@User0resU-15 ай бұрын
Yes it'll wear out... when you're long dead and gone.
@y-notforge89135 ай бұрын
..Good comeback...
@y-notforge89135 ай бұрын
..well durn! Sometimes ya just got to try and see...
@brysonalden54145 ай бұрын
Wow, Mr. Murphy and his law were obviously present in your shop for that punching! I've not tried using 5160 as a punch, and now I really won't! Hope things improve for you!
@colesonchild5 ай бұрын
Thank you! Yeah, skip out on that 5160. Just jump right to something more substantial. I just finished forging a couple H13 punches.
@danielrussell4525 ай бұрын
Good design I like it 👍
@jameserickson82645 ай бұрын
I am glad I came across your videos, I think the versatile is awesome
@Buamaynamphuongloren5 ай бұрын
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@Trent525 ай бұрын
is it possible to use this same concept to build a drop hammer on boat for dock.
@johnblackdeuce5 ай бұрын
Hi I found these videos researching ideas to build my own treadle hammer. One idea I have is using a counterweight system instead of springs, it would be easy to adjust your lifting force on the ram, and would be open to a considerable amount of travel
@InspGarySLurch5 ай бұрын
Some times you need a third hand, thank you.
@pablodelfin91815 ай бұрын
That's tradle hammer is a super clever design, do you recall how many heats it toke you to puch that hole? Cheers!
@colesonchild5 ай бұрын
Thank you! It took about 10 to 12 heats
@ForgedInHolland6 ай бұрын
looks really nice!
@cholulahotsauce61666 ай бұрын
Brrrvvvppp, Brrrvvvppp.
@rpower14016 ай бұрын
Love it, the welding rod brake release made me smile.
@y-notforge89136 ай бұрын
..necessity is the mother of invention. now figuring out how to put it together is all you. Well done sir. i hope you have seen Gary Huston's Adjustable hammer. You do an incredible job...!!
@Sickandawful6 ай бұрын
Dude, this is a boss idea. I am inspired to dig through the junk pile and build one.
@oleredforge7 ай бұрын
Can you explain more on this?
@colesonchild7 ай бұрын
Yes! This is my take on a forging press made by Riverside tool. Walter sorrells has one. That was the first time I ever saw it. By having a secondary frame that moves on the inside, you can have the cylinder underneath the work area, but still have the top die move up and down. It's the best of both worlds when it comes to being compact and user friendly.
@oleredforge6 ай бұрын
@@colesonchild wanna do a live session
@c.johnstonblacksmith7 ай бұрын
I was cruising around the internet looking for ideas and this came up! Love it, going to tweak the design for myself and if you don’t mind I’ll document the build on my channel and credit for the inspiration.