would you play the Pride of Hull's Clade in the deck ? if yes, which card would you remove ? I think jungle barrier is really expensive for what it is
@commandertribeelder22774 ай бұрын
@LeCanardBelge heck, yeah, especially since it looks like you can use PoHC's ability during combat.Even if you just Harmonize with this every turn plus it enables Solitary Confinement in an aggressive way. Maybe add some trample effects. And yes, the Jungle Barrier is way out classed by this. Also, crocodile elk turtle 🫠🤯
@yayoleyva16114 ай бұрын
FAST DRAW. NICE BUILD.
@commandertribeelder22774 ай бұрын
@@yayoleyva1611 thanks 👍
@rjsprojects4 ай бұрын
Two Mariodoc's and Path to Exile was in the main deck, so if you added one, then you have two of those as well.
@commandertribeelder22774 ай бұрын
@rjsprojects I have addressed the Meriodoc Brandybuck issue take one out sub in The Battle of Bywater. Also, the deck had Swords to Plowshares not Path to Exile
@davidbilich17086 ай бұрын
Use merry and pippin for your commander... It's an amazing upgrade.
@commandertribeelder22776 ай бұрын
The thought did cross my mind 👍
@mitchellbruderlin86217 ай бұрын
Like the Deck and good explanations :) but a little weird powerlevel wise, You play absolute bombs like Rhystic study or Cyclonic rift but the also play absolut janky cards like the cyber ship and a super budget mana base so I am not sure what powerlevel you are aimiming for?
@miguelangelcardenasarzapal19239 ай бұрын
Haven't you put twice Meriadoc?
@commandertribeelder22779 ай бұрын
Yes it was mentioned a good fix is put in The Battle of Bywater.
@parabot210 ай бұрын
Great , really nice deck choices . Will give these a try
@commandertribeelder227710 ай бұрын
Thanks and like I said this was just using cards from the set to upgrade. It can be taken so much further using all the cards available in the Commander format.
@commandertribeelder227711 ай бұрын
20:03 Sundering Titan is banned in the format I replaced it with There and Back Again for the dragon and treasure boost.
@aaronlorick362711 ай бұрын
Can you post the deck list?
@commandertribeelder227711 ай бұрын
Yes? The issue is I fired the guy that used to do this he couldn't decide between tappedout and moxfield and never got anywhere....
@commandertribeelder227711 ай бұрын
The deck list is now in the description, I'll work on getting this done for the rest of my videos. Including, some decks that have undergone some revision due to new sets coming out.
@truchotpierre807011 ай бұрын
thanks for this vidéo <3
@commandertribeelder227711 ай бұрын
Absolutely, you are welcome. If you want to see an upgrade for a pre con I missed or deck tech for a tribe let me know, I will do my best to get it on here 👍👍
@Ultimalight11 ай бұрын
You have 2 Meriadoc Brandybucks in your deck..
@commandertribeelder227711 ай бұрын
So I do, thanks for the catch I'll fire the guy that goes through and picks the cards. A great card to put in the place of one of them would be Battle of Bywater, it is a board wipe will miss most of rhe creatures and gives us food tokens 😊👍
@pmgottsc Жыл бұрын
Your mic and audio set up is so good, I scrolled over this video and once it started auto-playing I thought you were behind me in my house and got spooked.
@commandertribeelder2277 Жыл бұрын
Crazy because it's just my cellphone
@nicholaslong9664 Жыл бұрын
Wow. The white elephant. 😂
@BoroExile Жыл бұрын
Hey! It's Boroexile, just passing by to say hi & awesome to see you doing well :)
@commandertribeelder2277 Жыл бұрын
Always good hearing from you
@yeetanon6799 Жыл бұрын
I know its 2 years old but is nobody gonna tell him that simic has shroud and that counts for spells and abilities you play as well.
@commandertribeelder2277 Жыл бұрын
What did I say to target it with?
@yeetanon6799 Жыл бұрын
@@commandertribeelder2277 when the abillity of mirelurk fiend triggers to untap or +1 +1 wouldnt effect simic skyswallower or any creature with lighting greaves. Shroud is ALL abilities and spells. Im just saying so because im putting together a different kind of leviathan deck atm.
@commandertribeelder2277 Жыл бұрын
@@yeetanon6799 sorry but the +1/+1 is static and does not "trigger" or target the second ability triggers at the untap step but still does not target so yes it would get all three abilities
@yeetanon6799 Жыл бұрын
@@commandertribeelder2277 ahhhh i missed the keyword ' target' thats awesome. Thank you for that ive been playing it wrong :)
@commandertribeelder2277 Жыл бұрын
@@yeetanon6799 no problem the first time I played it at my lgs I tried to equip lightning greaves and equipping does target so I caught some flak for that
@Topbeehler Жыл бұрын
This is a lot more expensive than normal upgrades... As someone with poor spending habbits and a need to win I approve. Now to out do my friends! Screw the rules I have money XD
@nerdgoodness76562 жыл бұрын
Sub earned! Great content!
@commandertribeelder22772 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@jacobhoffer22252 жыл бұрын
scute swarm would go crazy in this deck
@thanatosdf37852 жыл бұрын
The risen executioner works like gravecrawler with the rooftop storm, Other cards that combo well with the rooftop loop, are diregraf colossus, headless rider or wilhelt , for infinite tokens, And with archghoul of thraben you can go to find in your entire deck the others pieces of the combo . Love for grimgrin as commander 🖤
@commandertribeelder22772 жыл бұрын
Great suggestions 👍 I stayed away from decayed so I didn't include wilhelt.
@hellraak3562 жыл бұрын
You should add repercussion and mana barb
@commandertribeelder22772 жыл бұрын
Yes repercussion would fit well. I address mana barbs about a third of the way in the video if it works for you awesome it becomes arch enemy when I play it.
@hellraak3562 жыл бұрын
@@commandertribeelder2277 yea I also suddenly become public enemy number one when mana barb comes into play XD
@albertkaltenbach60953 жыл бұрын
Think about taking out shatter for goblin cratermaker .... hobgoblin bandit lord is a good replacement for goblin king ..an tiblets trickery an jesekas will are great includes as well
@andyjames75343 жыл бұрын
Flickerwisp for an Eldrazi Titan with annihilate?
@Master20Bucks3 жыл бұрын
I also have a Krenko deck and I see that you are running so many more lands, do you feel that 34 lands is to little? I find it is all over the place
@dirid3 жыл бұрын
Cool video, the only complaint ror me would be a few very pricey cards among other cheep as dirt. Instead of teferi protection and sword of body and mind I would buy a more solid mana base (eual lands), but I understand that you use cards that you already have in your collection 😊
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
I hope you don't mean OG dual lands because those are super expensive I would love to have them as far as teferis protection I bought two of the commander decks when they came out and I've been super super lucky I like six of them in my collection it just kind of goes and everything that I own. I do appreciate the feedback on the couch and you are correct the Mana base need some help but that being said I'm not happy with the way this doctor now and as a project in the sometime future I plan on going back in building that Jack from the bottom up
@Berrymaq3 жыл бұрын
Please do a zombie tribal decklist :)
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
Absolutely did you have a commander in mind I know I like to run grimgrin and have a Milling sub strategy and negative effects they're my fav
@Berrymaq3 жыл бұрын
@@commandertribeelder2277 Seeing your grimgrin deck would be pretty cool. I'm making a Varina deck with a token theme right now and I've just been watching a lot of zombie deck techs to get inspiration for what to put in it :)
@commandertribeelder22772 жыл бұрын
@@Berrymaq I finally put my zombie deck up sorry it took so long
@Berrymaq2 жыл бұрын
@@commandertribeelder2277 Yes I saw, thank you so much! I'm planning on watching it as soon as finals are over :)
@Xendmust3 жыл бұрын
Whoa this is actually better than the face commander itself
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
Not only better but lends it's self to multiple strategies, it's waaaaaaaaaay better 👍
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
Ignore all the mass at the end Commander ability does not trigger when dealing damage to permanents you control however you would if you have like a furnace of rather something out the damage would be doubled first application to the creature then doubled again when applied to the next Target and then the two damaged added at the end. So yeah always be sure to read your cards. ✌
@kovemastergaming89683 жыл бұрын
I'd do 28 basics and 4 utility lands 32 cedh manabase
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
Lol right off I ment "at least have a chance to come into play UNTAPPED "
@Xendmust3 жыл бұрын
Nice I want build this now. I got a lot of cards already
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
It's a fun deck and can be built lots of different ways I hope you have fun with it
@reddrake403 жыл бұрын
Some nonbasics lands I'd recommend for this deck are Valakut the Molten Pinnacle, War Room, Path of Ancestry, and Myriad Landscape; valakut will turn every mountain you play after the 5th into a bolt, myriad can get you two mountains, path is scry for your tribe, and war room is card draw on a land. A few of nonlands that would great in the deck that I've run in the past, and still run on my mono red decks, are Koth of the Hammer, Chandra Torch of Defiance, Light Up the Stage, Valakut Awakening, Scroll rack, Muxus Goblins Grandee, Goblin Ringleader, Mogg Fanatic, and Conspicous Snoop. Koth is ramp, Chandra is ramp and card draw, Light Up is more card draw, Muxus is psudeo card draw and value, Ringleader is also card draw, and Soop/Fanatic work in tandem with Kiki to make an infinite combo, rack and awakening allow you to "throw away" cards that don't help in favor of getting some that might.
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
Great suggestions! Some of these have been put in the back already like the War Room and the Planeswalkers. That's definitely one thing I like about the game is that you can constantly evolve your deck. Some of these cards I'm saving for the other Krenko and will be more geared towards a very tribal Goblin approach.
@reddrake403 жыл бұрын
@@commandertribeelder2277 war room is great in decks that are low on natural card draw, like red and white.
@nicholaslong96643 жыл бұрын
Another one... 😀
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
Bites the dust 😁
@Xendmust3 жыл бұрын
Krenko is my 2nd commander deck I ever made. Cant even play it they insta kill him or always hold a counter just for him :(
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had a guy hold four counter spells just for Krenko, he told me and showed me after the game. Which would have gone longer if I did cast because I could have dealt with some threats but who keeps track of that kind of thing....
@ZombiMuff3 жыл бұрын
This is a great deck tech! Though I think maybe some more counter spells? Also I saw an interesting tech that was more self mill oriented and included the Parcel Beast mutated onto a scute swarm with risen reef and lab man out.
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with more removal, most deck could and it be easy enough to do. Parcel Beast is definitely one of those multi use cards,love it.
@Xendmust3 жыл бұрын
Love these
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
I love doing them
@walabter18873 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@sktleesin95643 жыл бұрын
Add staff of domination in there
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
I saw version that had lots of spell abilities to do the untapping. I always thought staff was better. Now that I finally have one I might add it.
@Meop793 жыл бұрын
This is much better as a Brago deck...
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
I agree, the hardest decision was not replacing the commander. Hopefully we get more foretell cards soon, I'm not a fan of stand alone sets the pool for new abilities is very limited. Maybe Ranar can be better in the future. Until then I do plan on playing both this as is and brago, I still have fun with it.
@Meop793 жыл бұрын
Wow... Bad. Really bad picks on multiple fronts.
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
In what way what are some of your suggestions?
@Meop793 жыл бұрын
@@commandertribeelder2277 ehh a lot... Elder Deep Fiend is bad. There aren't enough creatures you want to die or ways to recur things from the Graveyard. Simic Signet should be Thought Vessel. Peel from Reality is really good with many creatures in the deck: Eternal Witness, Acidic Slime, Meteor Golem, Slinn Voda, Terrastodon, Avenger, Mulldrifter, Wickerbough, Reclamation Sage, Wall of Blossoms, Sphinx of Uthun, Scourge of Fleets, Coiling Oracle... etc. It also bounces a key enemy creature and in pods offers you an opportunity to play politics. Into the Roil is not perfect but it can do similar things to peel from reality, but it should probably be changed out for something recurable such as Capsize. Urban Evolution is really good in the deck as it is basically always a free land and +4 card draw. Steve (Sakura Tribe Elder) is amazing in many decks, but this is not that deck. Again, no recursion or GY recovery/manipulation such as Gleencrawler or Sword of Light and Shadow. Symic charm is really good, saves creatures from targetted removal/steals, bounce a key creature or, gives +3/+3 which can be extra damage or poor man's creature removal. Stormtide can STOP opponents until you can draw an answer, but obviously would work better with an Akroma's Memorial. Reef Worm - no sac outlets, no recursion, bad. Nadir Karen is ok, but as it costs mana to activate, I'm not convinced. Do you want to cast stuff or get tentacles? The only major plus is that it is a Kraken, but if you whelming wave, you lose the tentacles... so.... Abundance is not necessary and basically bad, it should be Burgeoning or Carpet of Flowers. Runamap Excavator is a powerhouse. Terrible card to pull. It is insane with discarded lands, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Blighted Woodland, or other fetchland... one fetch land draws you two cards per land drop each turn with Runamap. Wickerbough Elder may not be tear one, but it is very good in actual playtesting. Nezahal is an absolute house, it's amazing, try it out. Sphinx isn't tier one, but it is good and actually would enable Brawn ironically. Parcel Beast is not a good choice for the deck. Other cards to look at for builds of this deck: Bala Ged Sanctuary, Wall of Blossoms, Progenitor Mimic, Once and Future, Thought Vessel, Body of Knowledge, Burgeoning, Carpet of Flowers, Rishkar's Expertise, Sea Gate Restoration, Turntimber Symbiosis, Tatyova Benthic Druid, Ancient Greenwarden, Worldly Tutor, Azusa Lost but Seeking, Lithoform Engine, Pathbreaker Ibex, Uyo Silent Prophet, Scute Swarm, Courser of Kruphix, Splendid Reclamation & Scapeshift combo, Archetype of Imagination, Thassa God of the Sea, Inkwell Leviathan, Deep-Sea Kraken, Serpent of Yawning Depths, Field of the Dead, Roil Elemental, Green Suns Zenith, there are lots of others obviously. You picked out some good cards, don't get me wrong, but...
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
@@Meop79 Thank you for replying. I do have to disagree with a few things. Saying Elder Deep Fiend is bad because " There aren't enough creatures you want to die or recur things from the Graveyard" is like saying Force of Will is bad because you can't recur things from exile. The idea is to surprise your opponent with it and who cares if you sac your Scourge of Fleets or whatever. Simic Signet could be replaced with numerous things. Most people I watched were replacing it with a straight land fetch. Also during play testing I found the draw and land play engine was extremely efficient so the "no max hand size was moot at best and not needed. Thus Thought vessel is really not needed. (Or Reliquary Tower for that matter). As for Peel From Reality and Into the Roil, agreed there are some bounce targets on our side I may have overlooked a few you mention a few great targets, but Meteor Golem at 7 mana value, Terastodon at 8 mana value, and Slinn Voda at 10 mana value, really? People see those go back to your hand you put a huge target on yourself, and once you cast them again, if you make it that far, you better be killing every other player on that turn. of course they might just laugh if you return Meteor Golem, 7 mana value for a 3/3 that destroys one thing THATS bad. Urban Evolution is bad 5 mana value for draw 3 maybe 4 when the deck does that for free?? Not convinced. Sakura-Tribe Elder does not have to be "amazing" to put in a deck it like saying don't play Rampant Growth for the exact same reason. Simic Charm as I said much better protection would be Heroic Intervention +3/+3 is kind of blah Can Stormtide Leviathan be useful sure, can it get you killed oh yeah not many flyers. If we add Akroma's Memorial, Levitation, AND Archetype of Imagination sure leave it in but not before. (Maybe a few others, just didn't have the room, but it's easier to remove that one card than shove stuff into it to make one card useful. Reef Worm great chump blocker. Nadir Kraken cheep to cast, can use left over man from Lotus Cobra, and just because you loose the tokens to board wipe again who cares still got a faux pas Managorger Hydra. Saying you lose the tokens when you board wipe is sort of like saying don't play board wipes because you might loose something, it happens not a big deal we will keep most of our board and can make new ones. Abundance...… Goes out and buys Burgeoning and Carpet of Flowers...… Runamup Excavator as I said would BE AWESOME..... if you build for it, I didn't...… I might but saying it is great with 4 lands over a card (Lotus Cobra) that is great with all 40 lands is misleading. So many cards are better and cheaper than Wickerbough, Ainok Survivalist, Appetitie for the unnatural, Artisan's Sorrow, Broken Bond, Broken Wings, Caustic Caterpillar are a couple. Though he would be neat in a proliferate deck. Nezahal is under whelming can't be countered, ok fine, no max hand size irrelevant as I said above, the draw a card trigger again the deck does this on it's own so much cheaper, and no real reason to return it to hand unless it's triggering something else, I removed because play testing it always slowed me down when I came across it, and it's horrible with the tribal board wipes. I don't have to re-cast 1/1 tentacles (kind of, they aren't in my hand). Sphinx of Uthuun only enables Brawn if your opponent is an idiot, would you put Tatyova, Cyc Rift, Oracle of MD, or Avenger of Zendikar, in to the graveyard just to put Brawn there too. If it comes up your opponent will make that a painful choice. Paying 1 to put another land into play (with Parcelbeast) and triggering all the "Landfall" triggers is bad?? (or just "darwing" a card) If you say so.... Other suggestions: MDFC are all like on par or better for sure again I didn't mess with the land much, not going to blink a Wall of Blossoms twice to do what the deck does by playing gobs of land, Mimic would be fun to do some interesting things with, Expertise is another good one, Sea Gate could be difficult to cast would just require maybe clanging a few Forests for Islands or thinking twice about mulligans other wise good, not a fan of Turntimber type effects plus it's 7 mana value to try to turn a small creature into a big threat, uuuuuuh Tatyova, Benthic Druid was one of my add ins see time code 8:54 , Ancient Greenwarden would be awesome with the right mana base and Runamup Excavator feel free to do that if you do add Crucible of Worlds too, A+ on Tutor, Azusa, Lithaform, Ibex, Uyo, and Scute Swarm, I mentioned Courser of Kruphix did Oracle of Mul Daya instead (though could still have a place in the deck), for the land combo I think better if again you build the mana base for GY recursion that way if Scapeshift isn't found at least the other card isn't dead in hand, Archtype see my flying argument, Thassa A+, Inkwell A+, Deep-Sea Kraken too long of a wait either way, Serpent of Yawning Depths A++++++++ ect ect ditto ditto (I just can't find one, and don't really shop online, I know get with the times... ), Field of the Dead A+, Roil Elemedntal lol 6 for a 3/2 that sees instant removal instantly uh ok...., Green Sun's Zenith A+. I appreciate critiques, I don't agree with most of it. Might be meta issues. I also noticed direction changes. I went one way and it works well, and from what I can tell the direction you would go would work well too. Some of the suggestions from the "other cards" are spot on. All in all I'm not saying my way is the best or only way, the joy of the game, just saying this is how I did it and it works well for me and most of it is from my collection and I didn't have to pay for it. :)
@Meop793 жыл бұрын
@Commander Tribe Elder so true, lolz... thanks for the in depth reply. I still think Elder Deep Fiend is going to be bad as once they have declared attackers it is too late to play it and you can't know if they were going to attack you until they have already declared. It can tap down creatures for a killing attack, so that's good, but other than that it's kind of bad. I like urban, but obviously it should be Ancestral Recall... *sarcasm* *rolls eyes* Actually, there are probably a lot of other options that are strictly better. If it weren't banned I would add fastbond, then zuran orb, crucible, strip mine, etc.
@sergiotamezvilla47563 жыл бұрын
Aluren.... génesis wave....cloudstone curio ......triumph of the bordes......umbral mantle ....sylvan library.....bolas Citadel......sorin markov
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
Great ideas, I like the infinite combo 👍👍
@OmegaMTG3 жыл бұрын
Can you post an updated deck list after your tweaks?
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I'll go back and put a link for all the decks. Thank you for watching!
@sarico78273 жыл бұрын
I did like some of your ideas. I still have play lands from my graveyard. I do see alot of people removing the primal dinosaur. I might do that also I put lieutenant baloth. it is the creature that, as long as you have your commander out all creatures you control get +2+2 and trample. That has got me wins with my landfall token army.
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
Yes 100% agree Thunderfoot Baloth would be a great addition. As for Nezahal, Primal Tide it can be hard to remove cards like this, it's not bad, but having to recast a 7 drop after a tribal board wipe just slows you down. And I wanted another board wipe and had few other places to put it.
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
Edit this deck has 31 mountains and 5 non-basics for 36 total lands
@NewSchoolPOKERstrat3 жыл бұрын
That’s a lot of lands homie.. w the ramp package I think you’re way way way over doing it. I’m running a version of Krenko that’s verging on cedh.. it’s close. Not there but it’s close. It has turn 2-5 wins in gold fishing prob finishes on turn 4 on average (it’ll win turn 4 about 80% if it’s not stopped or if someone wise doesn’t win first.. it threatens lethal turn 3 maybe 7%, turn 2 maybe 3%, and fizzles out/doesn’t go off till turn 5 or 6 maybe total 10%. I feel like I’m almost never missing land drops and I play 22 mountains and 8 non basics.. it’s fine. Your deck looks fun but it would be able to run more gas and just be better if you dropped at least 6 or 7 lands. Bro... honesty, that’s a LOT of land to run. Great video! Cool deck 🖖
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you pointed this out i rewatched this just last night and was thinking that's a lot of mountains plus non-basics it's 31 mountains plus 5 non-basics for 36 total. 22 lands sounds cedh not my style but awesome it works for you. I have an urza deck that runs twenty something lands that works well. Thank for catching that 👍
@kahlilfuentes88213 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly I liked this deck tech more than the command zones ver.
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
That means a lot to me. I've followed CZ for years and have always looked up to them. One thing they do is put restrictions on the upgrades they do, I just look in my collection for good cards. Hopefully I can keep surprising you!
@nicholaslong96643 жыл бұрын
Oh cool a new video.
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'll try to do something a little more often. Thank you for watching!
@markberberian63193 жыл бұрын
Nice job! Would like to get your take on Wyleth..
@commandertribeelder22773 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! I do have Wyleth in the works. It is taking me some time because it's the complete opposite of how I usually play I've never played Voltron so its just taking me a little bit longer I might do another deck tech in between but Wyleth is on the way
@ChefPharmD4 жыл бұрын
Looking at building Krenko soon, thanks for the walk-thru... do you find any use for Phyrexian Altar?
@commandertribeelder22774 жыл бұрын
Glad you found this useful. If you would like to see anything else in particular, especially tribal, let me know. It doesn't have to be tribal though. As far as Phrexian Altar not in this build just because it is a little high on cmc and most of the ways of using my tokens are on enchantments or cheep sorceries and not many instants.