My favorite band of all time, and for me the best live band ever. July 10th, 1984. My first of 7 INXS concerts. My friend introduced me to them by saying, “I know you’re going to the show to see the Go-Go’s, but you’ll end up liking the opening act better.” I said, “Who’s Inks-iss?” “It’s INXS, dumbass!” Next time I saw them was the Listen Like Thieves tour with “What You Need” putting them on everyone’s radar. I was so into them at that point, I remember thinking I was seeing a rock god when I saw the gold spotlight create a halo around Michael’s head as he was singing “Shine Like It Does.” Top 5 (tough to call - so many greats): 5. Underneath the Colours 4. Elegantly Wasted 3. Don’t Change 2. Shine Like It Does 1. Burn for You

The greatest album of the 80s and it's not even close. An absolute masterpiece.

I hated him ,heard his screamin voice ten times a day for 30 yrs or more

More Ms Moon. Very cool girl.

Why didn't you finish this song And put it on the double fantasy album . And is there a demo version of just John singing it floating around out there?

Compare Chisel to the sappy sh!t that was around and popular at the time. Plenty of great music wasn't popular in the US while plenty of bad music was

1. Sandinista! 2. Black Market Clash 3. Give 'em Enough Rope 4. London Calling 5. Clash 6. Combat Rock

The reason they didn’t make it is they had a drunk as lead singer. Same thing happened with the replacements with their singer, Paul Westerberg. The record companies are office workers who don’t want to be around someone who’s wild and unpredictable and shoots themselves in the foot. Record company execs are like management anywhere - they expect to have their arses kissed. By the way Midnight Oil supported The Angels in 1979. They were unknown at the time, but blew the Angels off the stage!!!

The American record companies said that they already had a lot of bands playing that type of music. Apparently they were nothing special. Cold Chisel came back to Australia and wrote You Got Nothing I Want.

They just have different (weird) taste over there. I mean, Air Supply and Little River Band were really their sort of thing. There were actually quite a few Australian singers/bands that were successful in America in the early 80s. But Cold Chisel wasn't one of them.

Chisel chose fairly early to not do the international tours required to make it internationally. In Australia they were clearly above bands like ACDC and INXS. In big concerts they were great but in pub events they were often below par ( alcohol affected).

I lived in Seattle for almost 14 years, and most Australian music didn't connect with Americans. The term bogan rock springs to mind. I honestly think some bands just got lucky, AC/DC being the obvious one.

No,this isn't in my eyes the most underrated band of the 80's...critics were by their side from the 2nd album to ''spirit of eden'' ( ''laughing stock'' is from 91)...they were uge sellers with ''it's my life'' singles and even ''color of spring'' singles...the vast majority of critics saw them as a great creative band followin' their own road...to me underrated means when a exeptionnal talent isn't really heard and forgotten....like Toni Childs ''Union'' for exemple...totally forgotten ....but a 80's masterpiece...or Kim Wilde...uge success but not seen as the true original artist she was (listen to the first three records,how it's unique,and not pop easy listening at all)...it's my definition of underrated.

Talk Talk’s evolution from 80’s synth-pop band to progressive pop/ambient masters was breathtaking. Mark Hollis (RIP) was a genius.

I would promote Chisel internationally as “Australia’s favourite rock band”.

Yes - Chisel opening for Springsteen probably would’ve been the better move.

Hi Peter, I love your show as usual and all things Australian, as you know. It's good to hear about bands I do know and those I don't. Hello, bicycle legs, I love your T-shirt😍😍 I still have a couple from the 1990s that don't have holes in them 😂😂However, my Kick T-shirt bit the dust years ago 🤣🤣 Anyway, I have both albums you mentioned. Peter knows I'm a huge fan here in America. I'm not a huge fan of their debut album because it's a little too punk for me. But I do love the song Just Keep Walking. It's in my top ten of favorite INXS songs. But I do like Underneath the Colours a lot. The title track, Night of Rebellion and What Would You Do are my favorites. It would be fun guys if you do a show about the best albums from Australian artists or have done that show already? I apologize if you have.

Peter, thank you for having me on the show for a second time. I really enjoyed this deep dive on Mark Hollis and Spirit of Eden. I look forward to talk with you again on another inspiring topic. ✨

It´s a great album, i rank it as number 6 of all the Black Sabbath albums.

The first Rose Tattoo album is as great as the best AC/DC albums.

Ac dc were funded by Ted Albert to make it in the uk then USA , it takes a lot of work time and money to make it .

First time viewer & subscribed/liked. Fantastic topic & excellent bands choices 🎶 plus the international viewpoints on the same artists/releases are great personal perspective angles. Thank you cheers from Houston 🇺🇸✌️

Fascinating show, Peter and Amy. I know the hits, but really have to dig deeper. So many bands, so little time. I have a member of my “Prog Rock Posse” who simply loves Talk Talk, especially the later period albums. I’ve definitely heard them, but it’s not easily digestible music. It takes time to absorb. It’s not catchy pop music, it’s something that needs time, effort and patience. Cheers from the USA! ~ Davey Cretin, from Cretin Classics.

What an amazing band and even starting off with the party's over and with Duran Durans producer Colin Thurston this band stood apart from all of the new wave acts of the time and it was the songwriting of the late great Mark Hollis thoughtful, insightful and brilliant he was such a talented man and the color of spring is still one of my all time favorite albums it just takes me to a very special place that not many albums do

I know who the band are, and who Jimmy Barnes is, but they had no profile in the US at all. I think that Americans knew who Jimmy was because he had that song with INXS. Also, I think he had a minor hit on rock radio from a solo album. Without cheating and looking it up, the song or album may have been “Working Class Man,” or something similar to that. Not every band translates to every territory. For example: Rush had no Australian profile, Kansas were unknown in the UK, and Marillion never broke the US. And that’s just for starters! It’s down to many factors, like you gentlemen mentioned. Especially, once again, the record label. Plus, as you said, pub rock may have been a tad too dangerous/harsh for closed minded Americans. College radio - as it was called at the time - was probably the route to take. But, if the band wasn’t in it for the long haul, and the label wasn’t behind them, it was futile. Another thing you spoke about was the tour they were on. REO Speedwagon was ABSOLUTELY the wrong tour for Cold Chisel! Plus, you never discussed the band name itself. Just what IS a Cold Chisel? (I sound like Seinfeld now. “Who ARE these Cold Chisel PEOPLE?!?”) Americans knew the phrases “burning the midnight oil,” “in excess,” and AC/DC from the power source. Cold Chisel, perhaps, wasn’t as easy to digest. Just a thought. Great show, men. Cheers from The Big Apple. Your pal and mine, ~ The Dreaded, Shredded and Unleaded Davey Cretin, from Cretin Classics.

You should have seen them live..then you would understand why they filled stadiums

Because when they toured the US they were treated like shit. 'You Got Nothing I Want' was reportedly written about the US music execs.

@18:32 indeed that's a puffin! We have them in Atlantic Canada. I'd always thought they were a much bigger bird than they are, somewhere around a penguin's size. But puffins are more like 12-14" small birds.

I was one of the first couple of Sabbath albums me and my friends bought in the early 90's. We all loved it. Just bad production.

"I Believe In You" is in fact, NOT about Ed Hollis. Dave Griffiths of Held By Trees has this confirmed by the Hollis family. It is however about someone else that Mark Hollis knew. A lot of people draw the conclusion that it was about Ed because yes, Ed did have a problem with drugs and he and Mark were very close. But no, it's not about him. Ed passed away in 1989.

I think it is Peter. I stayed away for years because of its reputation. I quite love it and play it more frequently than Paranoid.

Yes! At last a show about an amazing band. Very, Very underated. Great guest also. More of her in the future.

it has potential to be underrated but has a few duds on it, like the previous album.

The main reason Cold Chisel never got off the ground in the US was because Jimmy Barnes wanted a solo career . Journey ,Styx, and Reo Speedwagon was not a good fit . You they we're to tour there I would had recommend Cheap Trick or later Chicago (post Terry Kath) era. If you want big names then David Bowie even strike a cord with me. You also asked did Cold Chisel tour with Midnight Oil and my answer was yes in 1988 in the Australian Made Tour along with an Easybeats reunion. Another reason Cold Chisel never took off O/S is at the time they we're Adelaide based while most band that made it big O/S we're from Sydney or Melbourne. Only two bands that broke that mould was Powderfinger from Brisbane & The Eurogliders from Perth.

Stuff America. Who cares

Cold chisel are unknown in uk. And probably Europe

The answer is because Cold Chisel are rubbish.

I was doing work experience in 1978 at a Retravision, I was sent out with the bloke who did deliveries and he was playing the self titled cassette on his tape player. I was only about 14 and hadn't really heard of them but I was sold on them that day. One long day and Khe Sanh stood out to me. I didn't get that record until years later but got Breakfast at Sweethearts for Christmas the following year and bought East myself. Been listening to them for 46 years now.

"Have a drink on me" totally sounds like something Bon would've written entirely on his own. R.I.P. Bon!

It’s a bit like Status Quo from the UK they never made it in the US only one hit in 1968 then nothing .The US is a big place lots of bands to compete with ,they need good management and probably need to move over there for a year or more to tour also timing place a big part . I don’t think they could be bothered with all the travelling and staying away from home .

The reason for Cold Chisel not making it big in America was that Jimmy did not want to change their style to suit the American record companies. Jimmy had a meeting with an American record company executive and told them to piss off. This is what I heard. I think if Cold Chisel tried to make it in America in the late 80s, they may have been better. I also heard that America did not like Jimmy's voice. So pushing the Ian Moss lead songs may have been better. I think Jimmy must have been difficult to work with. Did they want it enough? Just my opinions and things I have heard. I don't think the music has a lot to do with it, IMO.

Davey mentioned Bon Jovi and Aerosmith as bands that had major success with outside writers. I would add Heart to that list.

Cold Chisel are legends & indeed they should’ve been huge across the globe. Circus Animals is my 3rd favourite Aussie album of all time, & in my top 5 ever too. There’ll never be another band like Chisel.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

One of the interviewees on the Australian Music Vault channel (can't recall who now, but an industry insider) made a good point about this. Which was that back in the day most of the labels that Aust acts signed up to were owned by US parent companies, so that when they wanted to go over there they had record company execs and talent managers they were obliged to use, they had no choice. And to these people, foreign bands like Chisel were a distraction they didn't need from their local US list of artists in whom they often had a financial and/or reputational interest in pushing. Consequently not as much attention was paid to other acts. Also, in a recent interview Jimmy recalled how the guy that had been assigned to them was a real flake and showed up to their first show after they had finished and immediately offered them some drugs. In the end they were disillusioned and Jim came home to write You Got Nothin' I Want about the experience. It is good to see that now there are lots of KZbinrs in the US who have discovered them, love their music and who universally ask the question - 'how come we never heard of these guys before?' The insider in the AMV interview made the further point that before long Aussie bands were wise to this situation and demanded in contracts that they have the right to choose their own overseas promoters.

Hey Peter, great discussion. I don't think their US record company knew what to make of Chisel. Music at that time was going through the punk/new wave thing. The US music market, while huge, could also be a closed shop. LRB could stylistically be lumped into the 'west coast sound' of the Eagles, Doobies, Fleetwood Mac etc but Chisel were a different animal. They were pure, barebones rock, not AOR, nor punk, nor anything else. Also the songs had more of an Australian tinge which was great for us but unrelatable there. Skyhooks had the same problem. Cheers

you talk about Cold Chisel but imo the only band that has really made it big in USA was AC/DC and to a lesser extent INXS. Not even Midnight Oil made it really big in USA till the latter years of their career

So here in Canada Jimmy Barnes had some exposure with his solo work with working class man, his duet with INXS on the lost boys soundtrack and the popularity of his 1988 album freight train heart it wasn't until I started getting his solo work on cassette which was his 1985 solo debut, two fires from 1990 and freight train heart that I started my cold chisel and Jimmy Barnes journey and finding a compilation CD of cold chisel at my local used record store got my interested in everything that this band has released and circus animals is what made me a fan what an album

It’s because of podcasts and shows like these that introduce me to unknown music…thank you! I’m going to check out this band! Great show Peter, and thank you Liam for your insight.

On KZbin they are huge! Reaction youtubers all around the world absolutely love chisel! And the views and likes comments are always healthy.

Dire straits and Chisel would have been a great pairing.