As far as I know, most of us are complaining since this format doesn't reward the driver who was the most consistent all season. The title has lost its meaning under this system.

@ I mean, the same could be said about every sport except for the Premier League and its feeder leagues. The 116-win Mariners got bounced in the first round of the MLB playoffs in 2001, the winningest team in MLB History. I mentioned the NY Giants before, they beat a 16-0 Patriots team, who was 19-0 by the time the two teams met in that year’s Super Bowl. Like Joey said, the only reason NASCAR fans complain about playoffs when they’re in NASCAR, is because they have a history to cling to. There was never a time when baseball, football or basketball didn’t have playoffs so nobody ever complains when the best team doesn’t win any of those championships. In fact, when an underdog wins a Stanley Cup or Super Bowl, the opposite happens. They are celebrated by all as underdogs who won. Why doesn’t that happen in NASCAR?

@@ryanmorrison3699 Underdog race wins are still celebrated. However, there is clear, numerical data that shows that the playoffs simply don't award the most consistent, well-peforming driver all year. It rewards clutch victories, rendering the regular season useless. Why should Harrison Burton, a backmarker, have a chance for the title because of one fluke win at Daytona? Same thing with Suarez at Altanta, and this is coming from a Trackhouse fan.

@ Why should a 7-9 Seahawks team make the playoffs while two 10-6 Giants and Buccaneers teams are left out in 2010?

@ryanmorrison3699 From 1990 to 2003, the driver with the highest average finishing position took the cup all but 4 times (Winston Format). Under the playoffs from 2014 to now, this only happened twice. The most consistent driver with the highest average finish position is not rewarded. In the case of the Sehawks, Giants, and Bucaneers, I agree that it is bizarre that the team with the better average gets knocked out. That being said, there are fewer variables that can have an impact on that happening in football compared to any motorsport. Football is played on the same type of field every week, with the main differences being weather, lighting, and the opposing team. In racing, no two tracks are the same, whether it's surface, driving line, banking, weather, age... the list goes on. You can be great at one track (Phoenix in the case of Logano), but awful at any other. So why should you get the most prestigious title at the end if you're only good at the tracks you're required to be good at? Looking at Logano's average finish of 17th, that clearly is the case of what happened. No one complains about this in F1 because the most deserving driver is, statistically, the one who performed the best at nearly every track, something that separates a champion driver from an average one.

We've known bro. But we're all bots remember....

Every year literally every single year Hamlin fans say that exact same thing and guess what? It never happens so say what you want but I believe it won't happen.

@BibleStudyReadingTime gotta have copium amiryt :"3

He didn't win nothing wtf are you talking about

Anything is better than what we have now.

No other motorsport uses this format. It just doesn’t work

Byron’s was pretty deserving

@mrflytothesky yes u could argue any 4 of them was deserving i just meant In general i think bell and larson were the most but it's definitely not the first year the most deserving didn't win the title us as nascar fans should honestly be use to it by now but yes byron did deserve it he's worked hard to get the chance there's always 2025👍

@@bransongregory9188 I feel like bell, Larson, and Byron were the best all year

@@mrflytothesky yeah definitely I'd maybe also put reddick in there too since he won the regular season championship

@ yeah him too

Everyone would have raced 100% differently.

kyle larson is

​@@LarsonRacingUpdates5Larson is 5th under the Winston format actually (shocking ik) Bell came back from 309 points down to win it at the last hurdle

Lers go joeyyyyyy

​@@NathanielNadeau nice one but that bro is dumb

​@@NathanielNadeaulogano is a nice driver