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@Lil_Kumquat 20 сағат бұрын
100% this! We learn the most from failures.
@marcostevens4086 12 күн бұрын
Hello Cameron. Love all your podcasts and interviews. I have a question that your experience might help me with. I train my dog on red kong and gun oil for scent work and competition. I love knowing more and more about dog olfaction. He is a very driven English Cocker spaniel. I am down to pin head size Kong and testing him on Kong residual. I have a tin I use in his lineups that has not had any Kong in it for over a week now and he can still find it and indicate. My trainer says that red Kong does leave any residual smell. From your experience is this true. I tried to contact the Kong company but no reply so I thought I would throw it out to you with your vast experience in detection. Many thanks Marco.
@BulletproofPitbulls 13 күн бұрын
Great content 👌
@debiritt4471 26 күн бұрын
As someone who only does Civilian Competitive Scent Wirk on essential oils, I have so much respect, admiration and mostly gratitude for these teams! Thank you for sharing, I am always interested in hearing about SAR work.
@timothyboone5003 Ай бұрын
“Officer safety” has come to the point where I can’t help but remember a childhood story about the little boy who cried wolf.
@AKKTerry Ай бұрын
Can you put more of the metal Tins in the glass jar of the same odor.
@FordK9 Ай бұрын
@@AKKTerry yes
@AKKTerry Ай бұрын
Thanks. I thought so but wanted to double-check.
@KynologyUK Ай бұрын
Great show great content, always learning on this channel
@CompletekTraining Ай бұрын
What does “relatively quickly” look like? Just a few sessions?
@KynologyUK Ай бұрын
I'm very new to training dogs around 2 years From the start I realised like any skill u learn it as a science and once u know the science of dogs u start to practice the art of training dogs
@roughfish2007 Ай бұрын
Ends abruptly
@FordK9 Ай бұрын
@@roughfish2007 yes because that was not initially going to be aired as part of the podcast so the entire podcast you can watch, which is a continuation from this part that we filmed in the beginning… just go to our channel and you’ll find a podcast episode with Dr. Hilliard
@veterantalk6612 Ай бұрын
Doc, can we get you to visit the NDDTC?
@jerrimartin6947 Ай бұрын
I liked the discussion of let dog search versus directing. After over 8 years of Scentwork classes I am finally understanding when to apply and when not to! But my biggest problem you did not talk about is when a dog eats vrap in the search in the search area. This problem cost me a Q in the last element of an NACSW Trial.
@franciscomoreno2751 Ай бұрын
Why didn't you pay and reward him during the first indication.
@FordK9 Ай бұрын
@@franciscomoreno2751 because I was acting like a new Handler lol it was his first real search. He found it under four minutes and people have been out there for hours and I couldn’t see anything at first so yes in the future I will obviously be at least at a minimum marking him right away, but in most cases marking and rewarding him, but hey, we all make mistakes and we have our first search with a new dog and you do silly things like that
@FordK9 Ай бұрын
@@franciscomoreno2751 but I will add that in training I make him resilient to those kinds of errors because in training I will also delay reward or the condition reinforcer a.k.a. the marker so that way it’s not really a violation of expectation from the real research so though I did not mark and pay right away like I typically instruct, I have also built resilience to this type of error in my training so that way it’s not a big deal when it happens
@ike21983 Ай бұрын
Great video!
@TedDahlin Ай бұрын
Good job setting the dog up for the win (BASICS). Was this the entire search or was it edited for time's sake? How many nighttime training searches had you done before this? How much training with distractor odors (dead/live animals)? Always tough trusting the new dog, on a first search, no matter how many times you have done it in training. Even though we should....
@FordK9 Ай бұрын
@@TedDahlin the search was unedited… we found it in 4 mins. We hade done a few night searches already in training, as well as road side searches… I have a few of those videos on here. We had never had a dead animal until that search. Yes, I for sure trust this dog but also know I’m not perfect and neither is he :). As the old saying goes… to non K9 “you are only as good as your last search” if you find something when called out they love you… if you don’t find something, they doubt you”.
@marcostevens4086 2 ай бұрын
Great work from both. Especially the age of dog and stiff breeze. Good line work from handler. What was the scent odour. Soak time and concentration of odour. Also what carrier mater used.
@cassandradraxler6766 2 ай бұрын
The traffic is blowing scent
@FordK9 2 ай бұрын
@@cassandradraxler6766 That’s a significant assumption, (maybe but maybe not) especially considering the minimal traffic in the area during the search. As the video showed there was only a couple of cars passing by on the opposite side of the road, and Car is going the opposite direction would actually be blowing the odor the other way …and with the significant obstacles and objects around, any movement from traffic would have been minimal. I’d say the natural airflow was likely contributing more to the movement of the target odor than the traffic was. Regardless of these factors, my primary focus is always to do my best and work my dog effectively within the space, no matter the conditions. My goal as a handler is to thoroughly cover my area with the dog, giving it the best opportunity to sniff out productive areas within the search zone. :)
@mariwhitmer5377 2 ай бұрын
Super job by both of them!
@marcostevens4086 2 ай бұрын
Got to love a Spaniel. Great work Ammo
@BunkerdogsMoons 2 ай бұрын
There is a big difference between practical searching and searching for the internet😉, a good searcher must be able to search everywhere, not just the wheel, the wall, which is often robotic and commercial
@BunkerdogsMoons 2 ай бұрын
Interesting, can you use more than one tube, also two different tubes for an cadaver dog?
@FordK9 2 ай бұрын
@@BunkerdogsMoons yes you can use multiple tubes… what do you mean by different tubes? Different in what way?
@visionshelties 2 ай бұрын
I have come back to this podcast so many times. Always a take away and makes me think and try things.
@ajdaltonrn 2 ай бұрын
Any Secret Service job offers yet?
@ajdaltonrn 2 ай бұрын
😂pure gold sir!
@debbig951 2 ай бұрын
Wow listening now. Amazing info for us as competitive trackers at this point. I know the concepts and want to honor the dog's skills which the rigid requirements of this sport don't always do it seems. All ears for thoughts and tips for this sport. I am thinking reading your dog accurately, reading wind influence and environment once the dog is motivated to following scent can help us stay tight to track as per the requirements.
@Lil_Kumquat 3 ай бұрын
So apropos to our current SaR journey right now. Resources are limited to what you can put in, and it's a challenge. Where we are personally with training is needing some real 1 on 1 mentorship from those with the extensive experience. We've done plenty of workshops but as stated in this episode those only take you so far. One way we are trying to over come the challenge is crowdsourcing, not my favorite, but hope it can get us the training both my dogs and myself need. On the note of Trailing, perhaps one of the most difficult disciplines because of the handler deficit in reading a dog or accidentally correcting off scent 😅 but agree with your thoughts Cameron of self discovery and allowing the dog to work through it even if it takes them longer initially. it pays dividends in the future. I'm fairly new to SaR, but have had the opportunity to see a lot of dogs run and it's very apparent those who lead the dog to the solution. And I do hope that groups can become less siloed, as it really hinders all of our progress.
@customk9254 3 ай бұрын
Sir... your speading that smoke around. 😂😂😂
@Lil_Kumquat 3 ай бұрын
Dude!!! Been waiting for a TT episode to come out🫶🏽 listening now!!!
@tedcouncil1593 3 ай бұрын
Hoses, hotdogs and a carpenters apron to hold the hotdogs
@paulboateng7521 3 ай бұрын
Gotta love some good dog training lore
@charlesbostick5846 3 ай бұрын
Boy! This is going back. Mike of Dog Sports Magazine as well as as Dog World.
@charlesbostick5846 3 ай бұрын
Hi Stewart, Mr. French Ring
@criktun3346 3 ай бұрын
"2 guys" that are pretty good at training dogs lol
@lauralbriar 3 ай бұрын
Excellent - surface area I was aware of, however, how long the hide should be out before the dog searches was confussing. I had been varing it, sometimes only a minute or two and other times up to 15 or 20 minutes. Thanks to this video, I know that wasn't a bad thing to do! LOVE your videos, webinars and course material available on Ford K9 site - thank you again for all the great resources!
@ExclusiveK9Alberta 3 ай бұрын
Great Video like always , please keep them coming 👌🏽😀
@eliasramos6218 3 ай бұрын
I like the search intensity of this dog. our team here in the Philippines also makes our training the same as what is happening in real life. in this kind of training the handler can exercise his decision making and reading of the dog. Also techniques can be developed on how to address a situation.
@scottwilly9452 3 ай бұрын
Elo sir am both professional security guard and dog handler for now am in Somalia but I want job 🙏
@mariwhitmer5377 3 ай бұрын
Very helpful!
@Alex4TWandTT 3 ай бұрын
Amazing dog, fantastic to watch the team working, thank you for sharing!
@lauralbriar 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this podcast. I am currently training with SWDI through their on-line courses and Jens Franks instruction is in-depth and well explained, really such an amazing trainer - wonderful to see him in a North American podcast. Documenting training and planning before training changes everything - and this has been done by other and promoted by others (Simon Prins for instance). It puts the science into training and makes things so logical. It allows you to see what works and what dosen't work with the specific dog and it enables the trainer to see what doesn't work, and how to approach it differently for the dog in front of you instead of wasting time trying things that don't work for that dog - less frustration for both the dog and the trainer. Hopefully this podcast will encourage people to look more at the work being done in Europe with operant conditioning and a scientific approach to training dogs, rather the popular approach of specific "methods" by only a few well known or well advertised trainers.
@michaelfarrell6448 3 ай бұрын
A control test would take the legal defense from unlawful detection . "" Cause the dogs nose is so good it could have been in vehicle just not detectable now"" "
@michaelfarrell6448 3 ай бұрын
It's a k9s job to please his handler period .
@Echoshadowflame 3 ай бұрын
Hey, I love the video! Quick question If you put out a high hide and your dog is on odor but doesn't sit, which is the final indication, and instead goes into proprioception, would you reward him since, in his mind, he's sitting, or would you assist with a SIT command?
@marktrees4976 3 ай бұрын
@@Echoshadowflame obviously Cameron knows more than me, but I pay it. My thinking is I'm getting the behavior I'm looking for (COB to target odor) which is more important than the TFR. I found they are more likely to give you a TFR quicker, if they've been rewarded for COB. It's just important to know, they're truly in odor when you pay, and not guessing. IMO
@FordK9 3 ай бұрын
@@Echoshadowflame I don’t require the sit or (trained final response) when first teaching elevated or inaccessible hides. I reward the effort, acknowledgement and persistence of the dog towards the odor. Then, as the dog becomes more proficient at this type of task, then I could require the train to final response if I wish to do so. But again in the beginning, we must reward and acknowledge the effort and acknowledgment of the odor…. I want the dog to understand. The odor is the most important part not the sit or TFR.
@Echoshadowflame 3 ай бұрын
@@FordK9 Hey back to my question If the dog is already fully trained, knows his final response, and is 10-foot certified, would you reward the dog on proprioception, or would you assist with a sit? Obviously, we don’t want the dogs to be handler-dependent, but I was having this conversation with another trainer and he said to help with a sit However, if the dog thinks he's sitting, why not reward him when he’s in proprioception? And in the dogs head he did everything by himself so it’s in his favor
@FordK9 3 ай бұрын
@@Echoshadowflame my answer is regardless of the phase of the training. The dog is in many cases elevated hides are new even for experience dogs, especially when compared to the number of hides they have that are head level or they are able to get close to it so again, my answer is regardless of the stage of training if the dog does not have experience with elevator or in experience, that is my answer yes, I am rewarding for them orienting and actively going towards the odor
@FordK9 3 ай бұрын
@@Echoshadowflame and most cases I don’t prefer to communicate to the dog to sit unless there is some type of need to I want to be as irrelevant in the search as possible. I help as little as possible and as much as necessary.
@joanmcmaster2681 3 ай бұрын
Love this dog ❤
@marktrees4976 3 ай бұрын
Colorado... lords of the flexi
@CharlieTheCaneCorso 3 ай бұрын
This should 100 percent be a regular feature, real story time feel to it, great scene and setting
@ann-joproos4492 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, dog is a joy to watch.
@4horsemenwomen 3 ай бұрын
Really nice coverage! I think he's got it! LOL The reward! Is the reward as important as the "play" time with handler? Does the play time increase the rewards value?
@CharlieTheCaneCorso 3 ай бұрын
When's the first hour going up I'm Interested to hear about the men of times past bye, back in the days where trainers had to work out issues and techniques without the KZbin
@briansands8453 3 ай бұрын
I don't understand the purpose of having him find an odor....what odor are is he being trained to find?
@FordK9 3 ай бұрын
@@briansands8453 he is a professional Detection dog that locates firearms or gunshot residue
@briansands8453 3 ай бұрын
@@FordK9 oh, ok!👍