Too loud for me, I liked the originals better. I would direct the cut towards the road, i.e. turn the muffler 180 degrees. So the sound reflects towards the road and makes it quieter but softer. But a great overview, if only there were more like this 👍👍
@craiggoldstein2461Ай бұрын
I actually like the stock sound too especially on long trips. It is great however to be able to customize the sound depending on preference.
@JoseVeyna-i3g2 ай бұрын
Loved the way you throughly explained it thanks
@craiggoldstein24612 ай бұрын
Thank you Jose! Appreciate the kind commentry!
@andrelessard53053 ай бұрын
How do you do the wrap? Thanks
@craiggoldstein24613 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWWylmZnotiZmcU
@andrelessard53053 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@ghostmost26144 ай бұрын
Do you still have the stock exhaust? I’ll trade you Vance & Hines
@danielbarnes85335 ай бұрын
👍🏽👍🏽awesome video! I liked the sound of wrapped baffles.
@craiggoldstein24615 ай бұрын
@@danielbarnes8533 I agree Daniel!
@jamesdaniel50255 ай бұрын
Yamaha too…lol
@markhardy67386 ай бұрын
I think the popping noise sounds good it’s like a trade mark on Japanese bike.
@coreyfoster73227 ай бұрын
I ordered the quiet baffle from shark road, but it seems like they are to short, once I install the tip the just slip forward wondering if you have any input?
@craiggoldstein24617 ай бұрын
Corey, is the baffle the same length as the stock baffle? If its not you got the wrong baffle.
@coreyfoster73227 ай бұрын
I ordered the quiet baffle from shark road, but it seems like they are to short, once I install the tip the just slip forward wondering if you have any input
@BrandonBaltes8 ай бұрын
sorry for the ignorance, what is a "wrapped baffle"?
@craiggoldstein24618 ай бұрын
Basically the baffle is a steel tube with perforations on it. to quiet or mellow the sound you can take a fiberglass matting material and wrap the baffle and it is quite effective in mellowing the sound.
@Wildirishmanbiker9 ай бұрын
Ps no matting sounds much better. Just found the website thank you
@Wildirishmanbiker9 ай бұрын
Wow they sound frigging wonderful! Great vid and my next bike hopefully
@FlipFlopandFly9 ай бұрын
That was a fantastic video. Would that exhaust system fit a 2009 Kawasaki Vulcan nomad 1700.?
@craiggoldstein24619 ай бұрын
Look into the Sharkroads....they are great quality at unbeatable prices.
@FlipFlopandFly9 ай бұрын
@@craiggoldstein2461 I went on the website and you were right. Thank you. I am purchasing the true dual exhaust system from them.
@danielprout898711 ай бұрын
Sounds great, way too loud for me, I run stock on my Nomad. If I can here my pipes on the road at speed, it is too loud. But I do enjoy a good rumble going past.
@johnderosambeau482011 ай бұрын
Just bought some shark road pipes. Getting ecu done after it. Looking forward to riding it
@jayothaovadose11 ай бұрын
I was waiting to get pipes until after I got the ecu tuned. But this vid convinced me that the popping isn’t as bad as I thought it would be. Bike sounds 100 percent better. Thanks for the info and the demo
@craiggoldstein246111 ай бұрын
Your welcome....I think you will be pleased with the product....Any issues let me know as I have Sharkroads ear and can freely communicate with their leadership....No, I dont work for them or get commission.
@vf12497439 Жыл бұрын
Damn thing sounds better than my stock road glide😂
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
Your bike will certainly sound better than mine with the Shark road mufflers.
@charlesphillips4455 Жыл бұрын
No matting
@2169scs Жыл бұрын
Good job on the video
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! It taught me how difficult it is to do a good video and how much respect I have for youtubers who make it look so easy!
@knoxlogic82 Жыл бұрын
Hey Craig! Where did you get the fiber wrap? Local hardware store? Online?
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
Yes Amazon, I cant find the link to my exact product but if you do a search for "fiberglass muffler packing" you'll find lots of good options.
@jaybd9329 Жыл бұрын
Craig, did Ivan’s flash give anymore HP or torque? According to his website charts and improves both but many say they don’t feel anything. Do you notice anything? Thanks
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, I believe there is a slight improvement but thats not what makes his flash so successful.....The bike wont pop on deceleration most prevalent by adding aftermarket mufflers, the bike will run cooler as he not only modifies the fuel and ignition timing but he turns the cooling fan on sooner. All throttle transition glitchy Ness is resolved making the bike just smoother and more enjoyable to operate.....
@jaybd9329 Жыл бұрын
Craig , thanks for your reply. Here’s another question. I test drove one yesterday from a private seller. Bike was clean with lots of options and we agreed on a fair price. When I drove it it was so sluggish and backfired that it totally discouraged me. I realize Ivan’s flash would remedy the backfiring but I was not at all satisfied with the sluggish performance. I called Ivan and he said his power charts are based on wide open throttle and that the main improvements are cooling, power delivery, no more backfiring. My main concern is that if I buy the bike and put Ivan’s flash on it will I be satisfied with the power? I’m thinking I will be satisfied based on the vast positive comments I’ve read but I can’t be sure. I was prepared to buy the bike when I test rode it but the power is just making me pause. I told the guy I’m going to ponder this more and will get back with him. I know there’s a chance he could sell but then that would be my answer, which is how I’m going to look at it from a faith based point of view. Any thoughts to help me reconsider? Thanks for any object feedback to my dilemma.
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
@@jaybd9329 I am confident you will notice an improvement in overall performance. Many people say "The bike should have come this way from Kawasaki" or "I almost sold my bike before doing the Ivan".....I dont know what your used to or expect. If you want it to run as strong as a new HD 114 I think you'll be disappointed. If your used to a Goldwing or Sportbike I think you'll be disappointed. I can however say it'll fix a ton of issues with the stock programming that makes the bike a much more desirable motorcycle to ride.
@jaybd9329 Жыл бұрын
@@craiggoldstein2461 ok, thanks Craig. My reference point is my former 2016 Road King 103 which is the same as the 1700, stock everything, and my butt Dino felt about 30% more pull smoothly up the power band. I’m not expected Goldwing or the 114 HD, just a decent pull, which I now believe the Voyager can provide, especially based on all the satisfied customers of Ivan’s tune. If I get the bike I’ll get the tune and give you my feedback afterwards. Appreciated your feedback
@donellophillips8417 Жыл бұрын
The wrapped ones have a little deeper tone but both sound sweet
@davidefland1985 Жыл бұрын
They sound good. I would prefer a baffle because it gives some back pressure. Straight pipes u loose power. 2 into one produces the best power. But some like the dual pipe sound and looks.
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree....I actually found the Sharkroad quiet baffle provided more torque than their standard baffle.
@timothywilson1493 Жыл бұрын
Very nice
@mikemac6085 Жыл бұрын
👍
@NihongoGuy Жыл бұрын
The wrapped sound was certainly better. The 1700s are way too quiet and 'tame' for my taste with the factory setup and tune. I have a VN2000 from 2006, just had it for a year and it has Cobras on it -and L O V E it. If I can get a 1700 to sound like the 2000, I will run to the dealer and get a 2023. :)
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2006 VN2000 Limited and loved it.....One of the bikes I wish I never parted with. The VN1700's are nice too once you get the ECU Tuned by Ivan and go with slip-ons.
@charleswayne7221 Жыл бұрын
Sound best to me wrapped! Unwrapped was a tad sharp and harsh.. Sounds really good!! Good video!
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
Charles, I agree. What's really cool is how you can customize and experiment to get just the right sound to your taste.
@ka-bar5060 Жыл бұрын
The single wrap on the exhaust sounds better. Deeper and more consistent rumble.
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you!
@gabeudave Жыл бұрын
What wind screen do you have? I need a large one like that. Too much wind comes by with mine.
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
Slipstreamer 14" I believe it was
@TheCurtisdaffern Жыл бұрын
can not find phone #
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
Hi Curtis, they dont have a call center here in USA. They handle transactions on their website....Messaging as well. I have found that at times replies from them can be sluggish but they always follow through.
@TheCurtisdaffern Жыл бұрын
Can not find phone number
@h.wayneb3495 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video also your thoughts in comments concerning rideability issues resolved by Ivans ecu flash, thank you and keep videos coming !
@billm6796 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I liked the wrapped baffle sound the most, it seemed to have a little deeper of a sound. I have a 2018 Vaquero 1700 with Cobra slip-ons and the sound was really good and after I had the ecu ivanized the sound of the exhaust changed to a little higher pitch sound, not bad, just different. P.S. Ivanizing your ecu is worth every penny. From what I have read in the comments you have being ivanized and I'm wondering, did you notice a sound difference and have you thought about doing a video to compare. I liked the comment on how people make it look so easy to do a youtube video, I did one for my bike and can see that I have to learn how to hold a camera, but I posted it anyways. Ride safe, enjoy.
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
Bill, I did find the exhaust sound changed some especially in between shifts. I would love to take a course on high quality KZbin production...I tool have lots to learn but its still fun and rewarding.
@kentgoudie344 Жыл бұрын
Sounds good.
@kentgoudie344 Жыл бұрын
Like the wrapped sound better. Would love to put a set on my vaquero but illegal in this province of Canada.
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
Kent, do your mufflers have to show a DOT approved stamp on them? Sharkroad offers a "Quiet" Baffle that not a bunch louder than stock.
@kentgoudie344 Жыл бұрын
@@craiggoldstein2461 yes it has to have the manufacturer stamp. Best regards. Love the bike.
@billm6796 Жыл бұрын
Hey Kent, I am in Ontario Canada, wondering what province you are in. I have a 2018 Vaquero with cobra slip on's and after watching this video I'm really thinking about this Sharkroad exhaust but never thought about them being illegal, how did you find this out.
@kentgoudie344 Жыл бұрын
I'm in newfoundland. Cops around here are cracking down on modified exhaust on motorcycles and front window tint on vehicles.
@billm6796 Жыл бұрын
@@kentgoudie344 Guess they must be bored, not enough real crime and idiots on the road to keep them busy or Tim's ran out of donuts, haha
@jackal3911 Жыл бұрын
Hard to tell but are you feathering the throttle to keep the pipes from popping?
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
Not really trying one way or another......But the popping stopped after the Ivan ECU tune.
@jackal3911 Жыл бұрын
@Craig Goldstein OK, thanks Craig. I'm set on buying the sharkroad pipes but it'll be a couple months before I can get the ECU flashed. Thanks for responding.
@craiggoldstein2461 Жыл бұрын
@@jackal3911 If you get the pipes and dont want to Ivan right away, block off the Pair system with a marble or bolt and it'll stop the decel popping.
@jackal3911 Жыл бұрын
Ok. I'll give that a try. Thanks for your time. You've been a big help.
@jackal3911 Жыл бұрын
Craig, I'm having trouble getting the crossover pipe to seal properly in the left muffler. Did you have any issues or do you have any suggestions?
@jrock22642 жыл бұрын
I have a 2011 1700 Nomad. Just put them on in the Fall. Pops pretty badly upon deceleration. Help! (other than tuning?)
@craiggoldstein24612 жыл бұрын
If you don't want to Ivanize your ECU, the next thing you can do is block off your pair valve. What's happening is fresh air is being introduced into the exhaust port to burn and unspent fuel. This is an emissions reduction approach many motorcycle companies employ. Gooogle "Marbelizing" your Kawasaki 1700 and you'll find many conversations on this.
@jrock2264 Жыл бұрын
@@craiggoldstein2461 Thanks!
@CRhammerdown2 жыл бұрын
Wanted to mention it sounds very good however I wanted to ask you why you're not smiling you don't seem happy with the end result?
@craiggoldstein24612 жыл бұрын
Hi Carlos, Sorry if I didn't appear enthusiastic. I think the Sharkroads do sound AMAZING in any configuration. After I got the Ivan flash I think it was better without any decel popping and cooler running. Overall the Sharkroad muffler is a deal!
@dmaticic75732 жыл бұрын
Great info Craig!! I bought these pipes because of you! On Saturday I put the same Sharkroads on my 22 Voyager. The baffles do come wrapped and there is an O2 sensor plug now. So to eliminate 90% of the decel popping I blocked the Pair Valve inlet inside the R/H air cleaner. The hole is at 11 o'clock in the housing. A guy from New Zealand told me about this.....Absolutely works great.
@craiggoldstein24612 жыл бұрын
Bam, REALLY great info about the PAIR valve. Glad your happy with your Sharkroad mufflers. I just bought another Voyager so I'm back in the fold myself.
@craiggoldstein24612 жыл бұрын
Bam, Can you better describe where you plugged the PAIR? I know you said 11 o clock. Did you do it inside the air filter housing or a tube behind it?
@craiggoldstein2461Ай бұрын
@@Diesel6Power Only had one Vaquero but I did also have a Voyager. I switch bikes alot....Life is too short ;-)
@rebelthrukansas02 жыл бұрын
I installed them on my 2014 Kawasaki vn1700 voyager, and the sound is great not too loud that it drowns out my radio and definitely louder than stock.
@craiggoldstein24612 жыл бұрын
Glad you dig 'em.....They are definitely a nice product and great value.
@mikestowe61362 жыл бұрын
so does the baffle come wrapped or ya gotta do it yourself
@craiggoldstein24612 жыл бұрын
They come wrapped on all the new Sharkroad mufflers. Been that way for almost the last year.
@mikestowe61362 жыл бұрын
@@craiggoldstein2461 so then do they sell ya the bigger baffles then i would think if ya took the wrap off the stock baffles would be perfect
@craiggoldstein24612 жыл бұрын
@@mikestowe6136 When you buy the Kawasaki Sharkroad mufflers you get the standard Baffle that comes fiberglass wrapped. If you want it louder remove baffle to remove wrap. If you want to quieter than standard they offer a "Quiet baffle" This quiet baffle is smaller in diameter and also comes wrapped. Hope this helps.
@mikestowe61362 жыл бұрын
@@craiggoldstein2461 ok ya i didnt know which one was the one that came with it because you had 2 different size baffles in the video so my guess it comes with the larger diameter one thabks
@craiggoldstein24612 жыл бұрын
@@mikestowe6136 Welcome!
@korthnanfortuna96752 жыл бұрын
It’s too quiet mate
@bcarroll45322 жыл бұрын
I like the wrapped baffle best
@quacker9982 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks for your effort
@brianpringle65922 жыл бұрын
How did you pack the mufflers and im looking to get some for my motorcycle
@craiggoldstein24612 жыл бұрын
Brian, If you want to add Fiberglass Matting to your existing muffle baffles you wrap the baffle with the matting and you can secure to baffle with some metal HVAC tape or thin Bailing wire. if you buy Sharkroad quiet baffles they come ready to go with fiberglass and wire.
@brianpringle65922 жыл бұрын
@@craiggoldstein2461 thank you and as far as getting the right slip on muffler what are the measurements I need to go by so I get the right ones
@TheHoovercm2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. A friend of mine just told me about these. I just bought an '11 Vaquero and was looking for some aftermarket pipes. I don't know if it's just the video quality of most I've watched but the Vance & Hines and Cobras sound not so good compared to these. I like the sound of these but I must admit they gave me a little pause when I saw they were made in 'China'. Quality automatically pops in your mind from the chrome on down the list. But at around half what the others cost, I may give them a try.
@craiggoldstein24612 жыл бұрын
Chuck, I can say that SharkRoad customer service and quality has been really good. The few complaints they've received they replace or refund ASAP. V & H and Cobra is nice too but of you try the Sharlroad I think you will be impressed. I dont work for them but I have a good relationship with them and I often help out with any issues with their American customers....Any issues please let me know.
@TheHoovercm2 жыл бұрын
@@craiggoldstein2461 Thanks, that’s great to know. My friend just put some on his Voyager and he cranked it while I was at his house yesterday and I thought wow those sound good. Sending my ECU off this week to Ivan also. Thanks for the reply!
@craiggoldstein24612 жыл бұрын
@@TheHoovercm The Ivan flash is a great investment....fixes several fueling and mapping issues with the kawasakis.
@jimlenhart6902 жыл бұрын
Hi Craig... Really like your videos. I just purchased the shark road slotted mirrors for my 2020 Kawasaki Voyager. For me, it's way too loud. Before I put them on I looked inside and there's no wrap just the original baffle that came with the pipes. As one of the other commenters noted, it says on the shark road website that the quiet baffles don't fit with the Kawasaki pipes. Obviously they do work, you just proved it in your video. I'm wondering, did they fit like they were meant to fit or did you have to Jimmy them around to make them almost but not quite fit? I'm considering sending them back but I wanted to give this a try first but will be waiting for your response. Thanks look forward to seeing your reply. Another question, why would they say that can't be used with the Kawasaki, I don't get it!