I work in the mold and die industry and having two of the same materials rubbing together is a recipe for disaster. With the receiver being SS and the PTG bolt SS you were probably getting some galling in there. Just the change in bolt material was the biggest thing.
@Bench_Talk10 күн бұрын
@@Racermx90 that’s what I figured as well.
@MichealJACKSON-ly6cd11 күн бұрын
You didn't mention mags I know the bravo has an aics option. Does this remain the case with mack bros evo II actions. Is that an AICS mag??? Im glad your decidedly not. moving with the herd as far as your chambering. I didn't even realize their was a 243 ackley. Im looking for a long action to build a 30 cal wsm on and im wanting to use the 700 LA bravo. Just want to make sure I can use aics mags. Thanks
@Bench_Talk11 күн бұрын
@@MichealJACKSON-ly6cd So yes KRG bravo chassis take AIC mags. I am running the MDT 10&12rd AIC 308win/6.5Creedmoor standard AIC mags with the 243 Ackley. Yep 243AI is a great cartridge, very easy to load for.
@MrYour1Fan12 күн бұрын
Nice 👍🏼
@waltz60824 күн бұрын
Can't hear a damn thing
@Bench_Talk24 күн бұрын
@@waltz608 sorry man
@WayneGent-t2l26 күн бұрын
Awesome doing my first custom rifle build. Was really wanting to do 243ai but saw the short barrel life and went with Dasher. I am going to use it for coyote 🐺 hunting but also target shooting so that is why I was worried about berrel like love your rifles
@Bench_Talk25 күн бұрын
@@WayneGent-t2l congratulations brotha! Always super exciting doing a rifle build and especially your first one. I use my rifles for coyote hunting along with target shooting as well! I think that 6 Dasher will do great for you. I will say though the 243AI is a little speed demon but probably has similar barrel life to a 6mm creedmoor. I have plenty of 243AI tubes and I’ve only shot one out with about 2000rds (my 18” 243AI build). I love the 243AI and barrel life is just something I don’t worry about.
@WayneGent-t2l25 күн бұрын
@Bench_Talk good to no I was hearing more in the 800 1200 round count for the ai 2000 is not bad going to do one next
@Bench_Talk25 күн бұрын
@ yeah 2000rds isn’t bad at all. Up into 2000rds it would still put 10rds into a 1” group which is awesome. Go with good barrel manufacturer though, shilen, Douglas, bartlien, proof research, etc. if you get shitty stainless (criterion :/ )expect worse results. My barrel that ran to 2000+ rounds was a shilen and I was stomping on those loads
@matthewbutcher20329 күн бұрын
My 243AI loves the 80gr Barnes TTSX. Not knocking your rifle but why would you go through the trouble of fire forming the ackley cases and not give them enough barrel length to take advantage of the added powder capacity?
@Bench_Talk29 күн бұрын
@@matthewbutcher203 2900-2950fps with 112’s out of an 18” 243AI is pretty good in my opinion. To each their own man!
@matthewbutcher20329 күн бұрын
@@Bench_Talk Ive never shot the heavies in mine, I built it with a standard 10 twist as a dual purpose deer coyote rife, but I do know that the 80gr triple shocks are knocking on the door of 3650 fps and 55gr Nosler ballistic tip are rolling at 4150 fps out of (what i concidered to be marginally short for an Ackley) 24" barrel! Im betting with a fast burning powder you could match or very nearly match the speeds you are getting out of that 18" short barrel with a standard 243 win and not have the hastle of fire forming, but once again not knocking your build its a cool rifle and serves your purpose, just saying the improved case isnt particularly advantageous in that configuration.
@Bench_Talk28 күн бұрын
@ a 1-10 twist 243AI is something I’ve wanted to build for awhile! Your rifle sounds great
@MTLeadSlanger16 сағат бұрын
Im doing the same with a 7mm-08. I want a short barrel, but I don’t wanna give up a ton of performance. Make it AI and you gain some of that back in a handier package.
@Bench_Talk16 сағат бұрын
@ that’ll be awesome!
@ronniebaker3036Ай бұрын
Where do you send your actions to have all the work done ?
@JakeB-920Ай бұрын
curious in the rifle build/specs
@Bench_TalkАй бұрын
@@JakeB-920 checkout my 22 Creedmoor build
@samlebo4704Ай бұрын
Never pierced a single primer with my vanguard series 1 or 2 even on over pressured loads
@Bench_TalkАй бұрын
@@samlebo4704 congratulations👍🏻 I’m glad you haven’t experienced it but it’s a very well known issue with Howa 1500 actions. I understand the vanguard is a Howa action but there is a possibility Weatherby has better quality control than legacy sports
@Jamiebob97712 ай бұрын
Have you tried Retumbo im shooting 105 vld at 3080fps
@Bench_Talk2 ай бұрын
@@Jamiebob9771 haven’t played with Retumbo at all, just powder in the H4350 burn rate range
@trashbarn2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I'm excited to build my first precision rifle. I saw in the comments where you have your bushing done. It would be super helpful if you don't mind putting the names of the businesses that you have do all the work to your receiver. People like me who are just starting and no don't know anybody. It's to worrisome to know if you're sending it to someone with quality. Thanks again. I actually feel your videos are very smooth and easy to follow
@702MULEHUNTER2 ай бұрын
I just picked up 25-243 ai do they make the dies for that im getting alot of mixed messagon the dies and calibers?
@Bench_Talk2 ай бұрын
@@702MULEHUNTER if it is a true 25-243AI then use a Redding type S full length sizing die with a 25cal bushing
@zackgr0gan2 ай бұрын
I have a howa 1500 in 300 prc and the bolt feels sloppy and sometimes binds not bad though just a little stick when reloading. Is there anything I can do to tighten this up or make it smoother
@davism1313 ай бұрын
That's a killer paint job. How did you do it? Looks awesome.
@anonymousf4543 ай бұрын
A nice, light, compact, and easy on the shoulder rifle is quite a joy. Much more than a big caliber magnum for sure, and you can accomplish the same things.
@anonymousf4543 ай бұрын
How short is the barrel? How heavy is the rifle? How is blast and recoil with that short barrel?
@Bench_Talk3 ай бұрын
@@anonymousf454 checkout the full video on my channel, 18” shorty 243AI
@anonymousf4543 ай бұрын
@@Bench_Talk Cool...I will check it out. Thank you
@othnielbendavid97773 ай бұрын
Nice rifle and build. I have also watched your Howa build videos. You make me want to build a rifle in 22 Creedmoor. Thanks.
@Bench_Talk3 ай бұрын
@@othnielbendavid9777 thank you for the support!
@Oregon-airguns4 ай бұрын
They there great video!! I have a question you might be able to answer. I have a youth model 7MM-08 howa 1500 after 3 shots the barrel is just trash. Any heat and bullets go everywhere but on target. Is it possible to junk that barrel, and replace it with a heavier competition style bull barrel? And if so do you have any recommendations? 🍻
@Bench_Talk4 ай бұрын
@@Oregon-airguns I’m guessing the barrel on your 7mm-08 is a pencil barrel or very thin contour? You can definitely replace the barrel. I would recommend getting a barrel nut style Prefit from Northland shooters supply, which offers Shilen and criterion stainless barrels for Howa 1500’s. Both barrels shoot great but I definitely favor the Shilen Alternut barrels
@Oregon-airguns4 ай бұрын
@@Bench_Talk hey thanks for getting back to me bud. Yes you are spot on! Paper thin barrel. Would really like a 24 or 26inch fluted heavy barrel. Also is there a trigger you would recommend?
@Bench_Talk4 ай бұрын
@@Oregon-airguns I’ve tried the drop in trigger by timney but didn’t like it. Each one of my Howas has had the spring reduction done where you trim a single coil off of the sear spring to allow it to get a lighter pull weight. I really like the modified two stage HACT triggers
@Oregon-airguns4 ай бұрын
@@Bench_Talk thank you soo much for the info man!! Really appreciate it! I’m a complete noob when it comes to powder burners. I could tell you any and everything about pcp airguns but powder burners are out of my lane!! However I did just buy a Danial defense delta 5 pro in 6.5 and that damn rifle will freaking shoot! Running 140grain hornady match. But I feel like I kinda cheated and bought a gun that already had all the work done lol. Now I need to make a total shitter a decent shooter.
@Bench_Talk4 ай бұрын
@@Oregon-airguns I’m still learning every day man so I’m glad to help where I can. To be completely honest man I would skip turning a shitty rifle into a shooter if you can afford to go fully custom off the bat. Buy once, cry once always if you can afford it. Getting a Rem 700 clone and doing a build is 100% what I would recommend if you can swing it because converting the Howa will be very minimally cheaper. Mack brothers Evo 2 actions are a great option $770, Aero precision was just selling blem Solus actions for $750 recently, or go full send and get a defiance or impact precision 737 action. I promise you will out grow the Howa at some point if it’s intended to be a PRS gun
@ArkansasBadBoy4 ай бұрын
You DO NOT see a boar drop like that every day, especially at that distance. Good stuff.
@othnielbendavid97774 ай бұрын
I’m new to rifle building. Using the Howa action and truing/blueprinting it makes good sense to me. Thanks for sharing.
@Bench_Talk4 ай бұрын
@@othnielbendavid9777 definitely not the only way to do it but this is what I personally did.
@bradleytyrrell44175 ай бұрын
Nice video mate i also own and love the 243ai mine is built off a defiance tenacity action stockys stock m5 bottom metal 26 1-8 twist ibi barrel shooting 107 match kings at 3200fps and it hammers
@Bench_Talk5 ай бұрын
@@bradleytyrrell4417 that’s awesome! I just got two spare barrels that are both 26” 1-8 twist barrels! That was my one regret with this rifle was having it as a 1-7 twist
@brettbateman82596 ай бұрын
Great video, I’m in the middle of trying to decide on barrel length for my 260AI build, this helps
@Bench_Talk6 ай бұрын
Any idea what barrel length you are looking at running after seeing my video?
@brettbateman82596 ай бұрын
18 - 20”, my end goal is to push 130 Berger Hybrids 2850fps+. Curious if I could still get there with an 18. Alpha SRP should help, any insight?
@Bench_Talk6 ай бұрын
@@brettbateman8259 I would love to see what velocities you get. You can always go 20” to be safe or run a better projectile. By better projectiles I’m specifically referring to monolithic copper bullets for hunting. Ex: 125gr (G1 BC .600) Bulldozer 2 by badlands precision you could easily push 3000fps+ out of an 18”-20” barrel. That combo would be awesome for hunting suppressed. If you aren’t running a suppressor than a longer barrel would probably make more sense. If you want to cut weight you can always go carbon rapped barrel. 260AI is a great caliber. I’ll do one some day
@johnsanford30436 ай бұрын
I live in las vegas, are you around here could you show me how to setup a remage barrel properly?go hit those caldwell plates? :) I have a 22 creed coming from NSS.
@Bench_Talk6 ай бұрын
Sorry man not trying to meet up with anyone, kinda creepy. Use KZbin for tutorials for putting on a Remage barrel👍🏻
@johnsanford30436 ай бұрын
@@Bench_Talkno worries. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound creepy. Hard to find anyone to instruct how to do this type of stuff. I'm a first gen firearm owner who lives in a apartment so cant fit a big vise and workbench area.
@Bench_Talk6 ай бұрын
@@johnsanford3043 I can never tell how people mean things lol. You can probably build a little cleaning station with a vise on a sturdy desk that would take up a small spot in your place. Use it to reload/build/clean rifles. American Rifle company makes nice small barrel vice kits that would be perfect, that’s what I use for all my barrel swapping.
@mikerochburhns.1026 ай бұрын
Not sure if you care but… I built a .22 creed on a aero solus action, krg bravo stock, except I kept my barrel at 28 inches😂 Only reason is because I got a fancy flute job on it and wanted as much of the pattern as possible. I’ve only shot 80gr ELD-M and don’t have a chronograph so I couldn’t tell you how fast they are going 🤷🏻♂️😂 I like your build, I’ll probably go with 20 inches on the next one. Cool vid man.
@Bench_Talk6 ай бұрын
Sounds like a great build man! What twist is your barrel? And is it mainly a varmint rig or for PRS/Long range shooting? I actually just sold all my 22 Creedmoor builds and I want to build a 24-26” 1-8 twist varmint rifle. At least with trying to shoot the 88’s I felt like I left a lot of potential velocity out there because I was running a 20” barrel.
@mikerochburhns.1026 ай бұрын
@@Bench_Talk 1:8 twist. I’ve shot prairie dogs at my house but I do want to attempt Texas Plinkings 1k yrd challenge. You should look into the Horizon firearm’s podcast, a recent episode they talk about reloading 22 creed. The guest said at high elevation he couldn’t get anything over 80grn bullets to stabilize. Not sure how that would change in a 24-26 inch barrel but it was an interesting thought.
@kevinblume75767 ай бұрын
Really need to work on the sound quality in ALL YOUR VIDEOS
@Bench_Talk7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the information
@LuisCastro-qk6dr7 ай бұрын
How’s the alpha srp brass holding up?
@Bench_Talk7 ай бұрын
It’s holding up great, five firings and one random case head separation and tight primer pockets. To be very fair though my Lapua LRP 243Win brass is still holding up awesome too, primer pockets are still almost as tight as when new and stomp on that load
@LuisCastro-qk6dr7 ай бұрын
@@Bench_Talk which would you recommend if you could only have one?
@Bench_Talk7 ай бұрын
@@LuisCastro-qk6dr I would recommend Lapua for LRP and Alpha for SRP
@johnseptien31387 ай бұрын
I should have mentioned in my comment that I have no problem with using any action from a "sacrificial" rifle or factory purchased action to build a rifle. (and they will shoot if trued correctly) I have seen some impressive consistency from these type of builds. I have a Remington Model 788, which was a .308 Win that I "trued" and chambered to 6.5 Creedmoor. With Hunter powder and Badlands Precision Bull Dozer II's it will consistently shoot in the .600" and occasionally shoot in the .400" five shot groups. I would like to put some match grade bullets down the barrel as I believe it will do better than the above mentioned performance . John
@johnseptien31387 ай бұрын
A quick note: What your describing being done to the action is "truing the action". "Blueprinting" the action would entail much more work and would cost much more than 250.00. The receiver threads minor diameter would be cut .010" which would then mandate the barrel tenon threads be cut .010" oversize. The action would be indicated in to 1 or 2 ten thousandths inch in order to do this work along with your action face and bolt lug abutments, as mentioned. The bolt firing pin hole would be drilled and bushed as to be in the center of the bolt face and a corresponding firing pin hole would be drilled. This bushing would also be made to maintain alignment with the firing pin and the hole so there is no drag on the pin as it moves forward to impact the primer. Also, the primary extraction timing would be adjusted via the bolt handle or material replacement or removal at the camming contact points to facilitate proper primary extraction. The fire control system would be checked for spring contact in the bolt body and the firing pin shroud would be relieved of material for clearance to make for contact free travel in it's forward movement. If there was no external bolt release one would be installed and if no after market extractor was installed, such as a mini m-16 style that would also be done. One step further would be to sleeve the bolt for a better fit to the race way. This would decrease play in the bolt body and make for better round to chamber feeding. This is why I suggest to my clients wanting a custom build is to purchase a custom action with all of the above mentioned completed from the factory. Any of the actions out there that can be purchased for under $1K are well worth the money. POA Precision Rifle, LLC.
@ericteipen8 ай бұрын
I just bought a Horizon Vandal in 22 Creedmoor. Guaranteed .5 MOA. Like $2800. 90 day lead time...Bought 2/26/24 Can't wait. Got my Dillon switched over ready to reload..
@Bench_Talk8 ай бұрын
I’m sure you’ll have good luck with the Vandal! The one thing I noticed while reloading for a few 22 Creedmoors now is that neck tension really matters. I anneal full length size using a standard Redding die and then use an expander mandrel which is 0.002” under sized so in theory I have 0.002” neck tension. Went from 3/4” groups to 1/4” groups once I had consistent neck tension!
@heinrichstoltz13568 ай бұрын
You’ve motivated me with your series to go the .243AI route. 🫡
@6Dasher8 ай бұрын
How does the recoil compare to 6.5 creed?
@Bench_Talk8 ай бұрын
I think the 6.5 creed has way more recoil.
@NelsonZAPTM8 ай бұрын
Really good video, I have wondered if a barrel nut on a Howa would be a possibility, and now I know. I'll just have to shoot out my current barrel first!
@MAGATITS8 ай бұрын
your audio needs to be raised
@jessewrigley56649 ай бұрын
Stop sucking your teeth
@Sparky-ee2fr9 ай бұрын
Can you tell us what size the threads are on the bolt knob? Thanks
@Bench_Talk9 ай бұрын
I have no idea, but the threads aren’t like a normal bolt knob. The entire bolt handle threaded on and off so you would need a Mack Brothers replacement bolt handle or another companies with the same design
@johnseptien31387 ай бұрын
@@Bench_Talk 5/16"x 24 TPI
@jamesheadlee27089 ай бұрын
Speak up or get a better microphone, your showing a video to people that are already hard of hearing! I didn't make it 2 minutes in and quit!
@NelsonZAPTM8 ай бұрын
A microphone would help, but subtitles are a thing too, you know. Good information and no BS.
@davidjames39949 ай бұрын
Hey man, curious what reamer you used to get the Match chamber? Haven’t been able to find on unless I had one custom built.
@Bench_Talk9 ай бұрын
I ordered that barrel through Northland Shooter Supply and they have a 243AI Match option for there barrels
@kadencollins53039 ай бұрын
Ever thought about trying the new weatherby 307 action?
@Bench_Talk9 ай бұрын
Definitely thought about it but it’s priced way too high. I’d rather start off with a Mack brothers Evo Gen ll or the new Defiance Classic action
@kadencollins53039 ай бұрын
@@Bench_Talk check gunbroker I’ve seen them for 600-650
@cacinaz88029 ай бұрын
Nice video. Congrats on your elk. Where was your shot placement? I ask because I would not expect to use 243 or even 243 AI. BTW Crown Ridge Barrel Works offers Mack Bros actions if you have them build you a barreled action.
@Bench_Talk9 ай бұрын
First shot was right behind the shoulder, double lung and exited. Second shot was a front facing headshot at 200-250 yards which of course dumped it
@matthewgaeta20889 ай бұрын
If you switch barrels that often have you looked into the WTO switchlug.
@Bench_Talk9 ай бұрын
I have not heard of that or looked into that but I’ll definitely research it now that you’ve mentioned it
@matthewgaeta20889 ай бұрын
@@Bench_Talk great content btw. All things considered the switch lug isn't an expensive investment. It beats taking the action out of the stock every time
@Bench_Talk9 ай бұрын
@@matthewgaeta2088 I think it sounds great, I’ll definitely see how it works and it might pop up on the channel later!
@barrysanders99469 ай бұрын
New to your channel. Great and very informative especially for news builders. Where did you purchase your Mack action?
@Bench_Talk9 ай бұрын
I appreciate you coming and checking out the channel! Please subscribe and let me know what you think of other videos! You buy these actions Straight from Mack Brothers!
@barrysanders99469 ай бұрын
I have subscribed and have been watching a lot of your videos. At 70 yrs old I want to do my first hunting build. I have done a few using Savage actions but never using a custom action. I also have used Criterion barrels and all shoot better than me. Just need to decide on a caliber. I'm a 7mm fan but mostly hunt whitetails and an occasional elk. Would like a short action probably. Thanks again for your great videos. Do you have a Patreon account?
@Bench_Talk9 ай бұрын
@@barrysanders9946 It’s never too late to do another rifle build! I’m also a huge 7mm fan, love 7mm Rem Mag, 284Win, and my latest is a 7mm PRCW (6.5 PRC necked up to 7mm). I do not have a patreon page yet but I will be making an account
@Bench_Talk9 ай бұрын
Just at least created my Patron page, Benchtalk284. Still figuring it out but I think we will use it to start going over reloading, rifle building, and hopefully a podcast
@MrGoMario10 ай бұрын
Rifle twist for such an heavy bullet???
@Bench_Talk10 ай бұрын
1-7 twist but you can get away with a 1-8 twist
@aitornavarro659710 ай бұрын
How many yards away?
@Bench_Talk10 ай бұрын
150
@davidhayes759610 ай бұрын
I've noticed that the 243 has a fair amount of popularity in the benchrest/ hunting culture of today. Some people have used the 243 since way back many years ago. At one point in time they weren't as forgiving in deer hunting as a bigger diameter round may have been . Bullet construction is key. I might get one.
@Bench_Talk10 ай бұрын
I love the 243 Ackley Improved. If you don’t want to reload I’d recommend a 6mm creedmoor over a factory 243Win
@barrydeacon355111 ай бұрын
Great build. Creedmor wasn’t around 40 years ago. I built a 22-250 improved 35degree shoulder tight neck, Macmillan stock, 4.5-14 power Leupold scope, jewel trigger. 52 hollow BT Molly coated. Shoots less than 1/4 in at 100.. deadly deadly coyote gun.
@Bench_Talk11 ай бұрын
That’s awesome to hear! Thought about running Molly, seems like a forgotten art though
@pookie1222211 ай бұрын
audio is terrible, unwatchable
@Bench_Talk11 ай бұрын
Then go watch another channel lol
@pookie1222211 ай бұрын
@@Bench_Talk i did, not to worry
@Zer0Edits0011 ай бұрын
Rolling back on their feet is what gun “experts” say will happen if you use a .243 but it’s a very capable round 🤣
@Bench_Talk11 ай бұрын
243win, 243 Ackley Improved, 6mm Creedmoor are all very capable cartridges
@Zer0Edits0011 ай бұрын
@@Bench_Talk yessir more than enough for all sorts of medium game
@JCP1152P11 ай бұрын
Great build. Did your smith put a second set of threads on rear of barrel for a Magnum Savage barrel nut. Thanks.