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@dittoking8996
@dittoking8996 5 күн бұрын
Les Miserables 1935 is my favorite film of all time. I'm not pleased with this part of your video but I did enjoy your video and respect you for making it.
@spacemanspiff3052
@spacemanspiff3052 19 күн бұрын
I’ve never really watched any adaption of “Les Miserables”. I was about to watch just now the 1998 Liam Neeson version on streaming, mostly because I’ve heard so much negative feedback over the past few years about the 2012 musical version. The funny thing is, I don’t remember ever hearing anything at all about the 1998 version, positive or negative, but like the cast list. Your very humorous description of Liam Neeson’s take on Jean Valjean being, well, Liam Neeson just being his badass self (controversial so it seems from that slap . . . geez), maybe it’s best I just take this time to go to the library and pick up the book to read.
@IsraelNowIsraelForever
@IsraelNowIsraelForever 3 ай бұрын
Casting a black man as Inspector Javert in the recent British adaptation makes no sense because at that time, blacks were considered inferior.
@dezx3531
@dezx3531 3 ай бұрын
France has had a different racial history. By the 1800s people of visible African ancestry were very often parts of the upper class in France, with one of Hugo's contemporaries being the black author Alexandre Dumas. In the novel Javert is hardly 100% white (being called half "gypsy") and it's implied he got his position through dedicated hard work. Point being, Javert is already a person of color and black people in France weren't all considered inferior at the time.
@aayushchaudhary1591
@aayushchaudhary1591 3 ай бұрын
Rare clip
@choccc0la
@choccc0la 4 ай бұрын
<33
@choccc0la
@choccc0la 4 ай бұрын
thanksss for ur video
@TopHatGacha
@TopHatGacha 5 ай бұрын
the one scene i like to use to determine how much i like each adaptation is Javert's Suicide, and how it's done. At least in the 1978 version, before he falls, he has this moment where you can see him thinking deeply about everything, which somewhat makes up for his epic tumble. The 2012 one would've been one of my favs... if it wasn't for the sound effect that plays when he (doesn't) stick the landing. I know it's realistic, but it takes away from the scene. And don't get me started on 1998.
@begaydocrime5719
@begaydocrime5719 6 ай бұрын
Watching this fucking creep Deupardieu say those words made me want to throw up a little bit like WHAT. Understand: I hate this actor, I've never seen this version (it came out the year I was born) and I loved this book as a kid. I read it in french when I was like 10 (and a lot since) and I've heard so many times him calling her his daughter and his angel, it was such a sweet thing! This was... an interesting opening hgfjkd.
@markw1london1
@markw1london1 6 ай бұрын
This was really enjoyable and enlightening. Thank you so much.
@crazycrazyjake
@crazycrazyjake 7 ай бұрын
“a blackmailer’s charter” runs the world and our governments to this day.
@theuofc
@theuofc 8 ай бұрын
Oh, please. We don't need explanations. The script and the actors will do that if they know their jobs.
@gilliandey2490
@gilliandey2490 8 ай бұрын
A joke but not funny
@salt1918
@salt1918 9 ай бұрын
Crazy to think that the rare centenarian alive when the 1930s version came out was born in the era depicted.
@freddylowe4900
@freddylowe4900 9 ай бұрын
Just to say - this is one of my favourite videos on the Internet! Thanks so much for making it. I’m a huge fan of this novel, and whenever I’m in a Les Mis mood, I flick this video on. I completely understand your critique - but I looooooooove the 1998 Liam Neeson version. Although they do obviously change the plot, they interweave so many Easter Eggs: the inclusion of Toussaint (even down to her stutter), Fauchelevent’s initial resentment to Valjean, M. “Madeleine’s” home being so modest (as well as him not initially wanting to be mayor), Cosette noticing her prettiness in the mirror (which is exactly what she does in the novel!!), Javert using almost the exact words from the book when he’s protesting Fantine’s release…I love it. And the music is gorgeous, I think. Though I understand your dislike of the ending. I’ve seen most of the adaptations you mention so I love comparing our views. That one from 2000 looks truly horrific… 😂😂 Anyway - thanks so much!!
@assyrianme
@assyrianme 9 ай бұрын
Making Jean Valjean Woody Allen :( . sickos. Excellent video. I feel the love you have for my favorite book.
@pk-yv3fx
@pk-yv3fx 11 ай бұрын
Incredible and insightful analysis ❤
@marniekilbourne608
@marniekilbourne608 11 ай бұрын
You shouldn't have included The Gay Divorcee. The original meaning of gay was happy.
@infrequentmusings2179
@infrequentmusings2179 11 ай бұрын
The Gay Divorcee is relevant not because of its title but because it is one of two Astaire/Rogers pictures in which Erik Rhodes plays a queer-coded "European" character. This is even more explicit in Top Hat.
@James-c3j2f
@James-c3j2f 11 ай бұрын
Well well well you had me fooled wish you luck on your new career jimi
@snowshower4415
@snowshower4415 Жыл бұрын
Thank u so much for this! Im my school's GSA leader and we're yalking about old films this week. This was super helpful ^^
@atheistleopard618
@atheistleopard618 Жыл бұрын
only here for the lesbian girlies.....the flappers with meat flappers.
@happy2bgay69
@happy2bgay69 Жыл бұрын
What a well spoken video. What a honor! Cheers to you. 🥂🏳️‍🌈
@Bananadiva1
@Bananadiva1 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic documentary! I thoroughly enjoyed it.
@vaslav030547
@vaslav030547 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing and informative record of LGBT film history. Thank you so much for all the research work that you have obviously put into this and for posting it.
@Tdub0911
@Tdub0911 Жыл бұрын
If it was nipped in the bud we wouldn't have to endure all the b.s. right now. It's making me sick having to see and hear it every day. You do you and don't expect me to accept it.
@SergioArellano-yd7ik
@SergioArellano-yd7ik Жыл бұрын
There were no tranny's then
@vintagebilly.uk..9005
@vintagebilly.uk..9005 Жыл бұрын
As a gay man who grew up in the 70s in the highlands of Scotland I was going to give all the residents of the small village I grew up in to hell with your opinion I’m going to look and love who I want I had no role models it was all stereotypes camp theatre actors
@yaminoonna3218
@yaminoonna3218 Жыл бұрын
This is immoral
@Vanyawwd
@Vanyawwd Жыл бұрын
Nope
@yaminoonna3218
@yaminoonna3218 Жыл бұрын
@@Vanyawwd yes
@Vanyawwd
@Vanyawwd Жыл бұрын
@@yaminoonna3218 nope. Cry more .
@yaminoonna3218
@yaminoonna3218 Жыл бұрын
@@Vanyawwd no thanks
@Vanyawwd
@Vanyawwd Жыл бұрын
@@yaminoonna3218 womp womp
@essencecabigas2208
@essencecabigas2208 Жыл бұрын
This needs to blow up istg
@AllenMorris3
@AllenMorris3 Жыл бұрын
Having Javer commit suicide in front of Jean Valjean could only be done if you have not read the book and have no idea of Jean Valjean's character. Jean would jump into the river even at the risk of his life - that is his character!
@darrencaruana1350
@darrencaruana1350 Жыл бұрын
Its not about same sex love , its about same sex lust . Men can never love men that way even if they think they do. So is dor women . I hate when you use the word love to diguise the lust of this perverted sin.
@Vanyawwd
@Vanyawwd Жыл бұрын
Wrong
@theunintelligentlydesigned4931
@theunintelligentlydesigned4931 Жыл бұрын
The 1998 version is still my favorite. Although I haven't read the book or seen a single French version, you failed to give me any reason to hate the 1998 version. Yea, Jean Valjean is more aggressive and violent but this version isn't as much about his "redemption" as other versions might be. It makes sense that Valjean would be more aggressive and violent after all he's been through. And when he smiles after the death of Javert, it isn't nearly so much about personal relief as it is about the knowledge that Cosette and Marius are now free too. After all, Valjean already showed his willingness to sacrifice his own life and to spare Javert's life but what could Valjean do after Javert had locked himself up with chains? Maybe the 1998 version copied a lot but it copied the best parts of previous versions. Even its handling of other characters was better than what we typically see. The 1998 portrayal of Gavroche was the best Gavroche I have ever seen. The 1998 version also did well at portraying Javert and Fantine. Maybe Eponine was missing from the 1998 version but did any English version do a good job of portraying Eponine? What is her story?
@davineuskens21
@davineuskens21 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful analysis! I find it fascinating how a work of fiction can evoke so many feelings and emotions inside of us. This movie is so beautiful and sad; I want to watch it again but I'm dreading feeling the sadness I felt when it ended.
@garygage104
@garygage104 Жыл бұрын
I'm as bull sis as they come. But I enjoyed this, very informative and exciting.
@johnthayer2790
@johnthayer2790 Жыл бұрын
Party like it's 1933!
@rociomiranda5684
@rociomiranda5684 Жыл бұрын
Isn't Fredric March just wonderful?
@DownBelowNagrind
@DownBelowNagrind Жыл бұрын
where did you find the document you show at 12:14? I'm doing preliminary research for a paper and am on a hunt for as many contemporary reactions to anders als die andern as I can find.
@infrequentmusings2179
@infrequentmusings2179 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late reply, only just now saw your comment. That document came with the DVD release of Anders als die Andern by the Filmmuseum München, I uploaded it here some time ago: drive.google.com/file/d/11DdjH92na9j_7e12eD8yG7Rj1ocFkreG/view?usp=sharing. The collection of reactions was published by Hirschfeld in his Jahrbuch in 1919.
@wartassikhalid3172
@wartassikhalid3172 Жыл бұрын
Hervorragende Geschichte ..das wr eine schöne Zeit voller Aufregung und Herzlichkeit..
@nairrac
@nairrac Жыл бұрын
Wonderful analysis
@emperorofpluto
@emperorofpluto Жыл бұрын
A moving tribute to the phenomenal courage of men and women who could only dream of the freedom so many of us take for granted. Far too often women are either overlooked or treated as somehow separate in gay history, and it’s enlightening to see such objective analysis. Brava!
@mrbutch308
@mrbutch308 Жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary. I saw the fully restored 1919 film "Anders Als Die Anderen" and was charmed by the gay bar scene where the patrons were dressed up up in festive costumes and dancing.
@Ryan98063
@Ryan98063 Жыл бұрын
The 1935 film was by far the best. It's extreme simplicity does itself favours. It's almost to the level of radio drama the voice acting is so spot on
@roxieAr
@roxieAr Жыл бұрын
Love this analysis so much, thank you for sharing
@afwalker1921
@afwalker1921 Жыл бұрын
I believe the records at Magnus Hirschfeld's institute were destroyed because too many of the Nazi Stormtrooper leaders had consulted there, something the Party could no longer tolerate after the Nazis reached their accomodation with the German Middle Class (think Night of the Long Knives). The early SA was very, very gay...
@Vanyawwd
@Vanyawwd Жыл бұрын
That only happened because Ernst got too greedy he wanted the SA to replace the SS when Hitler did not want that. But Ernst persisted and almost ended in a proxy war I guess between the SS and the SA. So hitler had to kill his best friend since ww1 off, but it was never because him or the soldiers were gay hitler just didn’t want that war to start and break things up. Ernst was the only man ever allowed to call hitler Adolf , not even Eva was allowed to say that . Hitler would ask Ernst all about his boyfriends and the nights etc. For the military after the night of the long knives it was “don’t ask, don’t tell” gay /bisexual men were in the Luftwaffe, SS, Wehrmacht
@seneca451
@seneca451 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this - and the narration is like silk
@deeproff1294
@deeproff1294 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work
@fredazcarate4818
@fredazcarate4818 2 жыл бұрын
The man was a Jew and a homosexual. Hence that is why he is in the film. He struggled with his own inner turmoil.
@Hermescove
@Hermescove 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u I really enjoy learning more LGTBQ + comm Also heh I just went Gay all sudden is well me definitely me
@kleinengeland
@kleinengeland 2 жыл бұрын
The words "Anders als die Andern" (Different than the Others) are from a beautiful and powerful song "Das Lila Lied". Even in English (The Lavender Song) the lyrics are quite strong.
@soothingmeditationsounds6514
@soothingmeditationsounds6514 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this incredibly informative video with all these insights!