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@PatrickHutton
@PatrickHutton 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for this but please cut out the background music it's distraction. This is a while ago now but very sad. Whilst of course there's two sides to a story the way they treated her by deciding to sack her after their big show during which they were all smiles and brothers and sister in arms then sacking her by means of an open letter was cruel and bizarre. One aspect as someone who's just started listening to Nightwish (Tarja era songs) is the sheer waste of vocal talent! She had perfected her voice and was looking really good with stage presence etc the audience and fans adored her. If they had sorted their differences they could have had another brilliant album and maybe just maybe she'd have continued after the album she said she'd be leaving after. Lastly there seems to have been an element of "no you won't leave when you've decided you're leaving now because we're sacking you!" all very sad, hurtful and such a waste. BTW Floor is great and seems to be a really nice person too but her voice just doesn't have that "magic". Tarja's voice could, and can, really reach into the soul that others can't do.
@penkakicheva-peeva8319
@penkakicheva-peeva8319 10 күн бұрын
I came back here in 2024! Thank you, Tarja, for teaching me how to be a strong and powerful woman!❤
@Crassus_Auratus
@Crassus_Auratus 16 күн бұрын
Her music in background is inappropriate imo
@Reaper-cm4jr
@Reaper-cm4jr Ай бұрын
And at that very moment Nightwish Crashed and Burned.
@ICRA95
@ICRA95 Ай бұрын
the way she was expelled without telling her, They just sent a note to the press , that was disgusting
@andsoitwas3046
@andsoitwas3046 Ай бұрын
One of the biggest betrayals in musical history. And only because Tuomas became petty and jealous that Tarja was getting married to someone else.
@DarthCrust66
@DarthCrust66 2 ай бұрын
God this was hard to watch you can really tell just how upset this made her
@ingridfry4139
@ingridfry4139 2 ай бұрын
Дурак ты Туомас.Убрать Тарью из группы,идиот🙈🤦‍♀️.Ты её знал с юности придурок.Как ты мог?Тарьюшка мы любим тебя,ты наш финский соловей❤💋🔥🎼🎶🎵🎸,самый лучшй соловей.Настоящий NWS это был первый состав группы
@AndrasMarosan
@AndrasMarosan 3 ай бұрын
She deserved soo much more all the time!!!!! I am speaking from the bottom of my heart!!!!!!❤❤❤🫡🫡🫡🫡
@AdamVop
@AdamVop 3 ай бұрын
Finally, the entire hour and a half long Tarja's conference was translated into English and Czech. The video is divided into eight parts. The first part is here kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4CWgGOhl9GmqtU. I'm glad someone finally did because what I've learned...I like Nightwish even less. And I admire Tarja for the fact that despite what they did to her, she still praises the band and tries to understand them
@AdamVop
@AdamVop 3 ай бұрын
Finally, the entire hour and a half long Tarja's conference was translated into English and Czech. The video is divided into eight parts. The first part is here kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4CWgGOhl9GmqtU. I'm glad someone finally did because what I've learned...I like Nightwish even less. And I admire Tarja for the fact that despite what they did to her, she still praises the band and tries to understand them
@ArianaHana
@ArianaHana 3 ай бұрын
Oh, Thank you. I need to watch it
@XiyuYang
@XiyuYang 4 ай бұрын
Think about what she went through here. She didn't just lose her job, she didn't just get booted out of a career she co-founded, she also lost four friends, one of which (Tuomas) she had known since they were teenagers. They kicked her out of the band by telling a one sided story to the public, she got stabbed in the back, by her friends. Tuomas is a brilliant composer but he could have handled this situation so much better. That was not an appropriate treatment of a colleague, let alone a long time friend. What a shame.
@darkmagiciantwo
@darkmagiciantwo 4 ай бұрын
Years later and it still hurts the way they decided to finish their link with Tarja. It was mean and cruel, and in the end it didn't end well for any if them.
@fredverkerk838
@fredverkerk838 5 ай бұрын
very good actrice
@theleveljuan3151
@theleveljuan3151 6 ай бұрын
As a Nightwish fan since the early 2000s. Im not siding with Tarja or the band members. Im sure the band had their reasons to kick her out and im sure she wasnt exactly a saint either in the band. But one thing is for sure, the moment Tarja left, Nightwish died. When i said “Died”, i dont mean ‘decrease in popularity’ or ‘their music became trash’. They were still popular and the music after Tarja left were still awesome AF! When i said”DIED”, i meant ’Nightwish completely lost the Magic’. There was just no magic without Tarja. With Tarja, Nightwish was just UNIQUE.
@LasseDiercks
@LasseDiercks 6 ай бұрын
her egoism screwed it all up. she was key to nightwish, but she had to be egotistical a reason for very many failures in companies and artists alike.
@ironeddy
@ironeddy 7 ай бұрын
As i understand it she wanted to get out of nightwish, so why didn't she? she didn't want to do some shows, she did not want to practice with them in the studio, sit seperataly in the plain etc. She wanted more money. I can imagine why she was kicked out. And she is right: life goes on.
@stalkermonolith4841
@stalkermonolith4841 7 ай бұрын
The day Nightwish died.
@Silisavnw
@Silisavnw 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mihaidomentianteodorof4790
@mihaidomentianteodorof4790 8 ай бұрын
LADY TARJA IS THE VOICE OF NIGHTWISH FOR ME.ALL THE BEST.
@fredverkerk838
@fredverkerk838 5 ай бұрын
fake opera singer
@slivkask8329
@slivkask8329 11 ай бұрын
Hmm, never trust a woman's tears. 😉
@Varão33
@Varão33 Жыл бұрын
What is the name of that background music playing? ❤
@MinhNguyen-ff6xf
@MinhNguyen-ff6xf 11 ай бұрын
Swanheart by Nightwish
@INFPGingerbread
@INFPGingerbread 7 ай бұрын
And sleeping sun nightwish plays too
@janeyre82
@janeyre82 Жыл бұрын
By firing Tarja they condemned themselves to be NOTHING. In a hundred years people will be remembering about her... and about them for having had her as a singer for a while, but surely not about Nightwish as a selfstanding musical reality. Sorry guys. No Tarja, no Nightwish.
@JohnHunter561
@JohnHunter561 Жыл бұрын
I stopped listening to Nightwish after this. They simply weren't worthy of a singer like her.
@michael.albinus
@michael.albinus Жыл бұрын
At least they (Tuomas!) can't do this to Floor - the whole music world would be on Floor's side - and not for nothing... 😎
@stanehering1
@stanehering1 Жыл бұрын
Without you Tarja, Night Wish completely lost its soul and unique identity. Period !!!! Tarja, you never walk alone❤❤❤❤❤
@bollywigga
@bollywigga Жыл бұрын
She was a snob and a brat. End of
@anulire
@anulire Жыл бұрын
After all this years I still can't understand the move of the band, and especially not those reporters there. If she ever needed a hug it was then. But no, they let her fight the tears and took pictures of her... Sad excuses for human beings :( Also, after she was gone, I never bought NW album again. For me, NW stopped existing after End of an era tour. Till this day, if I listen NW I listen only songs where Tarja sings. I fell in love with her voice first time I heared it after I heared Angels falls first on casette player. No cd's then for people who didn't swim in money in my country :p And it was pirated. Bought album next day
@AsAs-lf3gj
@AsAs-lf3gj Ай бұрын
Не про россию случайно речь?😂
@levity2893
@levity2893 Жыл бұрын
she`s not sad she got kicked, she`s sad she couldent do it herself after years of threatening to leave . i guess they got fed up and showed her the door.
@theol6790
@theol6790 Жыл бұрын
How could they do that to such a good person... Can't imagine how much sad she was when she knew it...
@LeeOfficialRecords
@LeeOfficialRecords Жыл бұрын
See.. without you Nightwish is nothing...
@thegreatunknown8014
@thegreatunknown8014 Жыл бұрын
That was the biggest mistake they could make, and that's the end of nightwish! Nightwish is Tarja, there's nothing else!
@maximuminfogames5975
@maximuminfogames5975 Жыл бұрын
😭
@elinaydenova4648
@elinaydenova4648 Жыл бұрын
I can't stop but think that this Mexican guy has a lot to win by separating her and planting ideas that she is better without them. So for me Tuomo was right to feel angry as he has most probably foreseeing this long long before her. However for me they both lost. The fans as well. I guess its indeed very difficult to be part of a band and try to see the bigger picture and sacrifice for the sake of it. Still love them both, but like someone said in a comment below I hope that they are together as ONE in another parallel universe and have became the greatest band. Wholesome New year for all of us who held NW so dear 🎉 ❤🎉
@annalyon2729
@annalyon2729 Жыл бұрын
Marcello is from Argentina
@elinaydenova4648
@elinaydenova4648 Жыл бұрын
@@annalyon2729 this fact doesn't change much for me :)
@MarieJohanna760
@MarieJohanna760 Жыл бұрын
​@@elinaydenova4648sure Adolf
@harrikuusjarvi3795
@harrikuusjarvi3795 Жыл бұрын
It does not matter how u would get fired. Nightwish is over Tarja anyday.
@patu1928
@patu1928 Жыл бұрын
A great band leader must know how to deal with not being the person with the highlights on. That's why Iron Maiden, under Steve Harris leadership, it's such a successful in terms of long-life. (sorry for my english)
@Elvenboadicea
@Elvenboadicea 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, this is heartbreaking. I remember when this happened and I was so upset. She'll always be my favourite vocalist of all time. I never saw this press conference until today. This was heartbreaking for many :(
@lukasmarzell5598
@lukasmarzell5598 2 жыл бұрын
The keyboarder needs a doctor... because he thought she was a diva, but he was wrong, he need to find a reason to fire her, this was the main reason... saying she behaves like a diva and let everybody in the band know this false roumors, in real tarja is one of the best opera rock/metal singers....living an normal life, not what roumors said, shame on the bad Keyboarder.... he should eat this letter... tarja cries of disbelife and anger, she had done nothing wrong... they sued her, sure she will never forget it.... long live tarja, great singer and composer of great work and music
@sujitshrestha4745
@sujitshrestha4745 2 жыл бұрын
Music suffered a great loss , it has happened time n again
@fabioestigarribia9620
@fabioestigarribia9620 2 жыл бұрын
Soy argentino entiendo te enamorastes de estás tierras y no sos menos que esos chicos de tu ex banda.Tenes un potencial enorme y si le llegas al público Argento vas a ser tus shows mil veces mejores que en cualquier lugar de este mundo.te lo aseguro acá somos de sangre hirviendo vivimos con intensidad y vas agradecer a Dios después de lagrimear.Aca solo tenés que saber compartir como lo enseña el Rock desde los viejos tiempos porque es hermandad... abrazo de corazón aunque no te conozca y aguante la sangre Turunen 🦾🇦🇷
@melchiordelamars4347
@melchiordelamars4347 2 жыл бұрын
And now they got rid of Marco!It’s not fair!
@J0_m0
@J0_m0 Жыл бұрын
They didn’t get rid of Marco! Marco walked of his own volition. Very different circumstances. But I’m seeing them for the first time soon on their current tour and my heart hurts that I’ll never get to experience him with them live. He became such a core part of that sound but he held his power when he left. I don’t think there was animosity between them when he left he didn’t like the business aspect of it anymore it felt like a raw deal and he couldn’t stomach it, after reading his letter can’t say I blame him. Saying they got rid of him is fundamentally not true.
@janeyre82
@janeyre82 Жыл бұрын
​@@J0_m0That's what we call "climbing the mirrors". Circumstances can be different, but facts are facts. That band is a mess.
@kalebschultz
@kalebschultz 2 жыл бұрын
i cant listen to Nightwish anymore! it just doesnt sound right! But Tuomas brought back some old nightwish sound back but with floors vocals in the song pan!!! and more music like that ill come back! but if you all listen carfully to the way floor is singing she is mixing 3 people into her vocals!! Tarja annette and herself listen to pan and you will find out what im talking about the pop of annette the operatic of tarja and her own sound. esspecially in the studio version! but seriously check it out its well worth it!!!!!!
@thevintagehifiambassador8524
@thevintagehifiambassador8524 2 жыл бұрын
2009 Tarja‘s band, we yelled: „Nightwish is dead“. ...and we were right.
@superchargenurse
@superchargenurse 2 жыл бұрын
Nightwish have now turned into floors backing band
@Bluebrain
@Bluebrain 2 жыл бұрын
As the saying goes, "It has to get worse before it gets better." And here we are. Floor Jansen was the best that could have happened to Nightwish! But I still respect, that without Tarja, Nightwish would never have become the band they are now and I still enjoy listening to her songs.
@Silisavnw
@Silisavnw 2 жыл бұрын
Nightwish did it well with open letter. There's no other way to understood those two (Tarja & Marcelo) the importance of the situation. Tarja's and Marcelo's attitude was very out of the feeling of Nightwish. They did right with the way they fired them. So much greed in those two humans. Nightwish is something so unique, this couple did everything about the money and fame. Bye Bye Beautiful. Ps - Just read the book : "Once Upon A Nightwish" , for more details in what really happens.
@midnightair8954
@midnightair8954 Жыл бұрын
LOL this book was approved by Tuomas. you've only heard one side of the story. She is not a diva, not greedy, she is a victim. She was defenseless. they would never be able to do this to Floor cause she will sue them for everything they've got.
@Silisavnw
@Silisavnw Жыл бұрын
@@midnightair8954 The real victims was nightwish, members, technics and company.. They booked concerts and Tarja wanted only the big festivals not the gigs in small theaters and of course more money.. This is a fact that everyone knows that happened those years while Tarja was the Vocalist.. Tuomas was the last guy wanted to fire Tarja... He did so patience but it was one way to go on... She needed to kick out.. With Anette happened exact the same thing but she wasn't so famous and the fact was forgotten... There's no reason to continue the story with people who cares only for money.. (A fact that proves the difference between Tuomas.. When they release the Imaginaerum album and the movie Tuomas gave anythimg he has, and talk about money except of creativity, to complete the movie) Floor is what they need because they swim in the same waters, they have the same taste in music also the same vision. That's the truth... And i know it hurts...
@midnightair8954
@midnightair8954 Жыл бұрын
@@Silisavnw The truth does hurt. When you see the full picture. "I never believed that Tarja was a horrible diva. Her behavior over the years does not at all reflect that. There are even videos fans have posted on KZbin full of clips and photos of her acting kind toward fans - the complete opposite of a terrible, narcissistic diva. And every other artist she has worked with (The Scorpions, Doro Pesch, Sharon den Adel, Chrstina Scabbia, etc.) have all said that she is wonderful to be around. Tuomas and the guys were known for living a very rock star life and partying, drinking, etc. on a frequent basis (Tuomas is literally drunk or passed out in half of the videos you see of him from the Tarja era!) and I think that their lifestyle rubbed Tarja the wrong way terribly, especially when her mom was really sick and died (her mom died in 2003, I think... Tarja was only in her early 20's, which is an incredibly scary age to lose your mom) and I think that she gravitated towards Marcelo a lot because he was there for her through all that and was the only one who actually helped her during the infamous Guadalajara incident in 2001 in Mexico when she was sexually assaulted. I will say this though: Tuomas did not provide a single shred of evidence that Tarja was a monstrous diva hell-bent on having her way all the time. Everyone just accepted his accusations about her without question. That is not how due-process works. Accusations without evidence are merely accusations. And if people are going to take seriously what tuomas said, than they should also take seriously what Marcelo and Tarja had to say about Tuomas in their responses. In his response letter, Marcelo directly accused Tuomas of lusting after Tarja and acting creepy towards her and Tarja also seemed to imply this in her song "Enough" from the deluxe edition of My Winter Storm. Enough is a song that it known to be about Tuomas and wasn't even released until after Tuomas milked Tarja's dismissal for every dollar it was worth by making Bye Bye Beautiful a single. Why did everyone want to believe Tuomas, but not Tarja and Marcelo? There are two sides to every story. And after how Anette was treated and Tuomas did NOTHING to stop the fans from being abusive towards her and then he fired her, we should all be questioning if the accusations he made against Tarja and Marcelo were even true because the way that he treated Anette was terrible."
@Silisavnw
@Silisavnw Жыл бұрын
The fact that Tarja wanted more money and canceled concerts because they didn't have enough people (therefore no money) is something that has been known by the managers who closed the Nightwish concerts. Since she herself was not having a good time in the band, she could leave whenever she wanted. He didn't because he was taking advantage of the great music Tuomas was writing for her and the band's recognition. She also thought that Nightwish would disband without her. Based on history Nightwish had a better future with Anette and even better with Floor Nobody says that Tarja was not a good singer even Tuomas right after the open letter said the best about her singing and performance. But her general behavior didn't fit with the band. Maybe she's a nice human and i believe that but the chemistry between her and the band didn't exist. And I believe that the two sides was not ever innocent, the band and the singer both of them had make mistakes. But i can understand why they acting like that. When she said "I don't need Nightwish ANYMORE.” and ”Remember, Tuomas, that I could leave this band at any time, giving you only one day's warning in advance"... While they planned everything about based with her own plans.. I can't say that the open letter was a good decision from them but she and her husband didn't left any area for conversation. So here we are now.. Maybe she isn't a greedy person but in that situation she acted very bad. You have to think about only that when she cancelled some of the shows ther were many people with families that loses their money... And all of that done because of the against between her and the band that make her one of the most popular singers in metal scene... That was the greedy thing.
@BladeHP1
@BladeHP1 2 жыл бұрын
😐
@ianhinrichsendrummer2113
@ianhinrichsendrummer2113 2 жыл бұрын
NW with Tarja had beautiful music, after she left I.listened to their first album post Tarja - it was unmelodic and boring, and that was the last time I listened to anything new from them. The magic was gone.
@tallullahdana31
@tallullahdana31 2 жыл бұрын
not till 5:08.....my tears sinking.. loves tarja n nightwish.
@withinsanityy
@withinsanityy 2 жыл бұрын
The lyrics in Ghost Love Score come to mind: "My fall will be for you. My love will be in you. You were the one to cut me, so I'll bleed forever" 💔
@icervoid
@icervoid 2 жыл бұрын
I guess there was jealousy somewhere between them. :-(