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If VW stays in business. And that's a big IF. Of course, Rivian needs to stay in business too. That's a big IF as well.

The Scouts are both 9.6 Inches wider than the Rivains. That is a lot. Positive is more likely more shoulder room in the Scouts, Downside is those ever smaller parking stalls will be a lot harder to navigate and susceptible to door dings and sometimes inability to get into your vehicle if the cars next to you are too close.

The "need" for physical knobs and buttons reminds me of the transition from the days of blackberries and non-smart phones to iphone/android around 2008-2012. People SWORE up and down that they would never buy a phone without a physical numberpad or keyboard. And so many android phone manufacturers provided these physical keyboards for a bit. But now look where we are - no one cares about this and everyone is fine with their iphones. The reality is that new users (young people buying their first ever car) don't care or even prefer the touch screen, and there are many benefits to a pure software approach. Only a small number of people would purposely buy an inferior product just because it has some niche physical control they deemed as a dealbreaker.

This thing looks awesome! I have an R1t. The Scout will probably be more capable off road and hopefully easier and cheaper service. The Harvester is a great idea to bring in people that would struggle with the thought of fully electric vehicles.

the UX/Infotainment is not part of the Joint Venture.

I don't have any of those 2, but I do love the 2 models from Scout better than Rivian.

Competition is good for the market! The Hummer EV is kind of a competitor to Rivian, but only in that they are both off road capable. Scout is looking like it's more in line with the same base. I put my $100 down as our EV9 lease will be up in '27. While I like the idea of being all electric the Harvester option is too good for the times when I want to tow to a destination. That is where EVs fall short. I also love my Lightning and tow with it daily, but it's a work truck that I charge nightly. If I had to tow more than 150 miles it would be a non starter. For those who do serious off roading the buttons are a plus as touch screens don't have a place to hold the hand. The only plus to them is they don't break unless you hit them so hard you actually destroy the screen. If that happens props, because you're really getting after it! LOL

No reason for Rivian to be scared as they’ll be out of business before the scout is released.

No rudeness intended but your views of Rivian vs Scout clearly shows the generation gap and how these things are viewed. As a Scout owner I can attest that the Rivian is not the type of vehicle most Scout owners would see as a positive. So the things you prefer (unibody, all touch screen, a 1 second difference in 0-60 and 100% electric) are not things most off roaders and true scout enthusiasts would prefer. Keep in mind these vehicles had a LOT of input from the large IH/Scout community for what they wanted to see in a revived vehicle and and NOT what a Rivian has to offer vs the Scout.

They helped build the scout

I loved rivian, till Scout launched. Scout all the way.

Point to mention: International Harvester introduced the Scout in 1961. They have been around longer than the 80's. They stopped production in 1981. Glad to see they are bringing it back and will be interesting to see if VW holds up to their statement that it will not be a VW vehicle but it's own product. So far they are accurate

For one - VW are the absolute worst when it comes to build quality. It's showing in how badly their sales are to the point they are starting to close manufacturing plants throughout Europe. They can't move the product. Second - Scout is going to have VW underpinnings. Not a great business strategy.

Scout all day due to the range extender. What's the point of having an offroad vehicle if you can't take it on a multiday adventure deep into the backcountry? Also, the bigger the battery size, the worse your vehicle will preform in deep sand. Rivians are way too heavy.

Thanks for this video. I want a Rivian and root for them. But I'm just going to say it. To me, the front design of the scout is superior. Aside from the vertical lights design, Rivian's other weakness is the overly complicated screen interface. Scout has the first one beat.

Love the comparison! This video was very well done

I just came when I saw the front bench seat.

Scout showed their Terra with a snow plow, for me thats huge. So as long as they hold up to the work truck standard, I'm in.

This truck looks pretty darn sweeet!!!

I think the market is big enough for Rivian and Scout. I prefer the Rivian, and I’m looking forward to the R2 and R3X. I wish the R3X was available next year.

Rivian should offer a generator option!

The range is a severe limitation. 350 miles for an EV 2-3 years from now is sub-standard. Silverado already does 450. If you have to add a small engine to get 500 miles, just buy a gas Ford Lariat easily get 550 miles.

No, Rivian should not be worried. VW is engineering this nostalgia trip, that company busted for diesel engine emissions fraud. Yeah. An EV with an old school bench seat and bolted on buttons and knobs on a dash with EV screens looks stupid. And a weird hybrid version with a lawnmower engine to charge the main battery? Complexity and fire hazard. Folks should test drive a Rivian. They will see that Scout is no threat.

Their focus on physical dials and switches instead of screens is very intriguing. I've been looking for an EV without huge un-ergonomic screens and this seems like it could be it! (or at least a step in the right direction)

Thanks for video Mike. Watching Rivian and Scout (both now connected via Volkswagen) dual and simultaneously collaborate over the next 2-3 years will certainly be interesting to watch. Perhaps Rivian will slowly deprecate their R1 line and cede the rugged off-road market to Scout once it starts mass producing (and hopefully selling) their R2, R3, and R3X models? Again, it's going to be interesting.

Rivian Canada, the ugly stepchild??I hate to be negative and love my Launch edition Launch Green R1T. The fact is 2025 is coming and Rivian Canadians have yet to see a single RAN charger in Canada or the Rivian Canada Gear Shop. Seriously, Canada is Adventure so why have we been left out in the cold when it comes to the Rivian Adventure Network and Gear Shop. Come on, get with it Rivian Canada. RJ, you can do this.

Rivian will go bankrupt before R2 becomes a reality

Used your code on my R1S order, but didn't see it on the invoice. Maybe it'll show up on your end when I pick up in 2 weeks.

Appreciate these bite sized news updates 👏

It was kind of weird that bosch announced the south carolina plant to support rivian around the exact same time Rivian announced their in house motors. It seemed weird at the time and no one really raised an eyebrow- I guess people thought the quad motor would live on in perpetuity? The perils of outsourcing core tech to suppliers (especially ruthless ones like bosch).

You need chapters.

I like the CEO of Rivian. I like the Rivian concept. But is it really okay to buy such an expensive vehicle from a Company seemingly on its way to bankruptcy? Rivian loses almost $1.5 bill/qtr or over $100k per vehicle sold. As proof, in 2Q24, Rivian lost $1.5 bill. Delivered 13,790 vehicles. $1.5 bill divided by 13,790 is loss of $108,800 per vehicle

I got my NACS adapter. 😊

Great tip! Thanks Mike

Awesome video !

Absolutely not being too critical. Definitely a missed opportunity. A great idea that just seems incomplete. I agree, who sits in park for fun? I also think Rivian should stop being stingy with the accent light color options and also open up some more sounds for the locking feature outside of birds. Also, what's going on with the screen casting on the the display. Now that's worth sitting in park for. It would be nice to have access to your favorite shows, or being able to pull over and watch a game during evening traffic or while camping. What are we waiting on? Tesla? Let's go!

Exactly

It's worth if for me. This is only because I'm always in the mountains and ATT provides me with a 2nd method of connectivity when TMobile isn't working. I also like having Apple Music, but it's still buggy as hell. I really feel like Rivian botched the launch of Connect+ by not having Google Cast ready at launch. I'm also anticipating it'll be buggy since they screwed up Apple Music from the get go.

This is nothing compared to what GM charges for OnStar. Just to lock and unlock the car and to see the battery in 1 percent increments (can’t do that in the car [chevy bolt]) in their mobile app, GM wants $15/month. I tried it for a couple of months then decided it wasn’t worth and dropped it. Of course, I couldn’t just go to their web page and cancel. They made me talk to someone who spent the entire conversation trying to get me not to cancel. If I wanted the OnStar data plan, it was considerably more.

currently its not worth it. They should have waited until the really interesting features came out (texting/cast). If you have an Iphone you can use short cuts > automation to auto tether your phone.

is this a silver or limestone ? Looks cool

I believe Rivian has allowed live traffic without the monthly fee. This is a must have in the LA area.

Thank you for honest review. Maybe it will be worth it in future, but people should not buy based on something that will be delivered in future but only if you are happy with what it delivers now.

Without the hotspot, you can’t access and control your vehicle remotely. Rivian gotta eat bro.

As an early R1S owner, it erks me that hotspot, maps, etc. that were standard with my vehicle is NOT grandfathered in as an early owner. New features I am happy to consider paying for sure, but take away something I noticed as a reason to buy the vehicle and then lump it with other features behind a paywall is not cool.

Thanks for this review. Seems like it wouldn't make sense yet to pay more money than Tesla charges for less value. Hope they bring more features soon to justify the cost. Cheers!

Hi Mike! Have you done a Speedtest on your hotspot? The speed I get is less than 10mb curious to see how fast others get.