Towards the end of the 90s more and more players figured out Liu's services. Of course that was critical for him because it was his primary weapon. After a final act of force in the 99 world singles, his performance dropped dramatically. Motivation issues may also have been an issue.
@morris.m4 ай бұрын
the hidden services actually makes the games more attractive to watch. And also the 38mm ball. Sadly few people understand this.
@ErikSnus-h6lАй бұрын
the new rules destroyed table tennis for me i loved the 21 rules and 38mm ball.
@ВалерийГлотов-у1ч6 ай бұрын
Всё таки Валднер самый великий теннисист в мире. Он фактически уровнял подачу и приём. Сделал приём активным. Чем сейчас пользуються все теннисисты.
@swagmoney16527 ай бұрын
23:54
@olaniyi57010 ай бұрын
All though I'm sure Ding Song has mastered every type of shot in the game, he is a chopper (defender), not an all-around player, as stated by the commentator. Great match though.
@TheNoobzoid11 ай бұрын
Wang prime I think would beat Waldner Prime. However, it's still very hard to compare since the rules and the game has changed so much.
@dickn.ormous10643 ай бұрын
Wang in Waldner's era would have a career similar to Ma Wenge.His backhand and serve receive would have been exposed by Europeans even more.
@pettson3816 Жыл бұрын
When was Waldner's peak?`He still plays really well here, but when did he play his best?
@dickn.ormous10645 ай бұрын
Around the 1992 Olympics.He was clinical in 1997 but past his peak.
@dickn.ormous10643 ай бұрын
1989-1992.
@fobef Жыл бұрын
5:55 wait what, a backhand serve by Waldner?
@luisgutierrez-ze1zi2 жыл бұрын
Los chinos le tenían un terror a waldner ...por años les dio sus buenas palizas...
@jandalen72092 жыл бұрын
Maby swedens best atletic of all Times...
@love7080s2 жыл бұрын
Yang Ying is cute !!
@richardrowe15382 жыл бұрын
Waldner is the GOAT in service skills. I wonder if Waldner's service skills changed the game from 21 points/5 service opportunities to 11 points/2 service opportunities?
@jirawootvongpee40022 жыл бұрын
Wow ! Karlson powerful player
@michelrenaud34313 жыл бұрын
The commentators are so boring, they say nothing of value.
@farhanhashim25273 жыл бұрын
Service had big advantage back then with hidden rules
@rayarditi92053 жыл бұрын
That's Wang Chen , formerly ranked #4 in the World.
@ajitbhale82113 жыл бұрын
I wondered how they allowed a white t shirt to Waldner (the greatest player ever in table tennis) but soon realized in a closer view that its an orange ball
@professorx97693 жыл бұрын
王励勤吃球吃饱了
@ShamyTV5k3 жыл бұрын
but seriuously wang made his way. Isnt he considered one of the best players of all time after that? Come On, this was a kid
@user-lq2nu6cn7y3 жыл бұрын
3:39 wtf
@tropik57243 жыл бұрын
Table Tennis rules of this era was better I cant stand the new era rules and regulation and changes.
@gr6373 жыл бұрын
Woldner vs wank le king 😂
@kenshiro114 жыл бұрын
I ONLY wish i started playing with pips back in 97, i remenber here i Chinese player using tsp pips,but most of players using pips in backhand were using tibhar and yasaka. After seeing the results of ito and Mattias Falck i now that player like Johny can have a future , i tink that on sweden are some Young promisses usiing short pips
@kenshiro114 жыл бұрын
Still have this game on a VHS tape!!!!!
@jaywilley9554 жыл бұрын
Yoooooo Henstridge!!
@user-ip1wt9cf6l4 жыл бұрын
wang liqin looks like a Korean, face and hairstyle
@user-zh3zi5yg8f4 жыл бұрын
Это было круто
@ziggyhorn19684 жыл бұрын
Time flies, 22 yrs ago.
@jc9hole4 жыл бұрын
This video would've been much more enjoyable if the announcers didn't talk as much (especially during points)
@saiqihu17564 жыл бұрын
老瓦👍
@PINYO_B24 жыл бұрын
Wang Li KING superb
@animaysh4 жыл бұрын
Where is that famous WL straight arm loop? Must have not been fully developed yet.
@jasonwilliams46595 жыл бұрын
This sport has changed so much since then. Waldner by far the best player of his era and Ma Long the best player of his era imo. So many fantastic players between including Ma Lin, Wang Hao and this player Wang Liqin and the europeans Timo Boll and Vladimir Samsonov.
@Bxrzoi3 жыл бұрын
Ma long is boring compared to waldner... A lot..
@NoSpeechForTheDumb7 ай бұрын
@@Bxrzoiin general the game became boring after they removed the spin in order to accommodate silly audiences.
@klaasparlevliet295225 күн бұрын
@@NoSpeechForTheDumb I don't agree. The game now is way more atletic....its fast...bh banana, bh chopblocks, fh chopblock even more coming.. reverse pendulum/ hookservices.....Truls, Felix, Fan, Calderano are spectacular to watch and a lot of exciting games with tension to the very end...EK Sweden, Olympic games, Master Stuttgart and in China lots of spectators too.
@NoSpeechForTheDumb25 күн бұрын
@@klaasparlevliet2952 no athleticism of the world and no weird technique can compensate for the loss of spin by speed glue ban and the big plastic balls. That's why you have so many "interesting" long rallies today: Everything is simple now.
@klaasparlevliet295224 күн бұрын
@@NoSpeechForTheDumb 70 to 75 percentage of points is in first 4 strokes...10 to 15 percentage stroke 5 and 6...so there are not many long rally's in general and if there are they are most of the time very word watching. If you look at tabletennis from 30/40 years ago its a lot of unforced errors and misreading serves ( because of rules) Quality of the game now is much higher; plastic balls or not...some people have a certain need to romantisice earlier times.....
@detskalldaltas1335 жыл бұрын
The Legend. Still growing tree!
@robl48365 жыл бұрын
Since when can you play in a white shirt? Oh orange ball.
@seekthetruths225 жыл бұрын
What? Wang LEAKING??? That's hilarious!!!
@reinaldopessoa26035 жыл бұрын
Well look at how it's spelled, I think that was a simple mistake.
@sebastiannebe1365 жыл бұрын
Lee-King
@user-ys8dk3bk4d5 жыл бұрын
この頃のワルドナーと今の俺、どちらが強いのだろうか?考えさせられる💦💦
@user-ft2lk5qq3p5 жыл бұрын
Респект
@janovewaldner15 жыл бұрын
Respect to these greats, FIVE world championships between these two guys.
@samba27825 жыл бұрын
Doesnt JO have 6 himself?
@janovewaldner15 жыл бұрын
@@samba2782 Sorry if I was not precise, I meant World Championships, not junior, not world cup, not other events.
@benthekeeshond5455 жыл бұрын
@@samba2782 WTTC is the tournament that determines the best player every 2 years. WTTC is where all the good players will participate and the hardest TT tournament to succeed.
@krzysztoflaskowski61104 жыл бұрын
@@samba2782 no mate, waldner 2 singles 1989 and 1997 and Wang 3 titles
@dickn.ormous10643 жыл бұрын
Waldner does have 2 WTTC in singles and 4 in teams.
@joshyang72265 жыл бұрын
Haha, I like how they bad mouth the Chinese player, you don't do that anymore. Ha ha today when a European player loses, you credit them by saying …"they're good, they play hard, yes they have a good back hand..."
@nicklasandersson56066 жыл бұрын
I felt very sorry for liqin in 2004 olympics when he was forced to throw he match against wang hao because the chinese thought hao had better chance against waldner,though waldner didnt reach final and everything it became a throwback on the chinese with ruy min winning and then also liqin beat waldner for bronse.
@valiantsin19835 жыл бұрын
Hm, nice beat with Waldners pure mistake in serve. That timeout was actually the only way to break the Waldners song
@zingsting95956 жыл бұрын
That was obviously a scripted match. Chinese team orders.
@olaniyi5705 жыл бұрын
Definitely!
@HarryChan2020 Жыл бұрын
No such need for the final.
@MarkEWallace6 жыл бұрын
OMG, the mispronunciation of Wang Liqin's name. Goodness gracious.
@jc9hole4 жыл бұрын
they mispronounced Waldner's name too. these announcers are pretty terrible
@iuwdbwudbvhwduivhbwduivbii4314 жыл бұрын
Vang Lee king 😂
@willway61716 жыл бұрын
王励勤若い。。。
@philippcausd6 жыл бұрын
Very boring Compared to 2018
@benthekeeshond5455 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. The real TT game should be like this. The 40mm ball took spins away from TT.
@tomspice734 жыл бұрын
If Waldner's game or Liquin's is boring for You, You dont know what TT is
@miakappa55376 жыл бұрын
赤い服は解説をやってる人ですよね.昔はこんなに強かったのか!
@uchihadayne65066 жыл бұрын
How could you think wang would ever have a chance against waldner? He literally missed 20 serves over 3 games. Waldner looked so bored he was only playing on his own serve
@maxk8804 жыл бұрын
Waldner serve unfair, wouldn't be allowed by today's rules
@jansenwang66794 жыл бұрын
That is the power of hidden service.. therefore it is not allowed anymore in today's TT.
@dickn.ormous10643 жыл бұрын
Wang Liquin had notoriously crappy return of serve.There's a match in 1999 against Kreanga and once Kreanga starts serving backhand serves to Wang's forehand he totally collapsed. As you may know it's pretty much impossible to hide the backhand serve.His short game was simply crap for the 38mm ball. He almost lost to an Australian at the 2008 Olympics because he couldn't read his tomahawk serve. Waldner wasn't even the worst match up serving wise for him 'cause he was particularly vulnerable to guys who liked to 3rd ball attack with their backhand like Wang Hao and Schlager.
@uchihadayne65063 жыл бұрын
@@maxk880 unfair? No it’s called a SKILL. Table tennis with a smaller ball, hidden serves required 10x more skill to play. It’s not unfair and people were actually good or bad at it. It was dumbed down to extend point length and rallies in the hopes it would bring mass appeal, which it still has not. Beyond that waldners real strength was in his point construction and strategy and variation in what he could do. The serves were just another strong point
@carlpeterkirkebo2036 Жыл бұрын
@@maxk880 Not unfair if the rules were different at the time.
@韩国80年代民主光州事6 жыл бұрын
0:00 Wang Liqin just so handsome
@leexster6 жыл бұрын
Is this Yang Ying the one you often hear commentating in Chinese table tennis broadcasts these days? Does anyone know?
@deanimn16 жыл бұрын
Yes, the same person.
@grimimeinfreund97556 жыл бұрын
wow are the players of 1997 weaker than players of today or is that just a different play style?
@valiantsin19835 жыл бұрын
My Op: not only different style of play but different rules and equipment. Would FZD be there - I believe would loose to Waldner because of this, be Waldner here - FZD would beat him.