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My autistic child was sent to a mainstream school and cycled through fight/ flight. I said she isn’t safe hence the response. They said behaviour. They then said she is safe as we built a fence that she cannot climb over! I said this isn’t making her sense safety, she is still perceiving threat only she cannot escape anymore so you feel she is safe! Schools need to understand the neuroception of safety and threat. Adding in fences does not increase safety!

Thank you Seth Porges for your excellent presentation.

So what do you do if you do not have anyone who makes you feel safe? What if you have never felt safe so you have never created bonds and your older now and have no idea how?

Thanks alot! Very powerfill!

Thank you Kristen for this wise, kind and beautiful practice. I feel softer, safe in my own sensations and setting, and at the same time more "awake" and open. My breathing is slower, deeper in my belly. I feel more physically, mentally and emotionally capacious naturally, without effort. My perception has shifted from my mind to my entire body. My skin is registering the constant touch of cool air on the surface and warm blood pulsing inside. I feel a kind of hum of sensation throughout my body, vibrant and energetic but not "nervous." Uncontrived energy flowing naturally, with its own awareness, its own wisdom. Just feeling this elicits trust for me, trust in myself and my ability to feel, assess and connect with my environment. For me, perhaps, this is a foundation of "safety."

Son … Stop interrupting the Man ! Your father or anyone. I shut off from listening to you. He has a better way of talking and softer words voice & better understanding it seems. Son sounds like a text book learnt from a class. I’m going thru a lot of what’s said here.. Also u talk to fast and ego is WAY TO BIG.. pitty u had to talk over him every time. Pissed me off . Yes I get angry fast. From people like this. Be gentle when u talk geezzzz

Excellent explanation, thank you. This is so helpful.

Seth’s ability to clearly articulate PVT to the majority of people is as important as his father’s work in defining PVT! Absolutely worth the watch!

Thank you, Dr. Porges, and thank you, Mark for this contribution to the world of PVT and healing. I'm a biologist and (recovering) engineer, turned coach. I've been studying PVT (and the SSP), and trauma, and IFS, and somatic mindfulness for several years. Along the way, I've absorbed probably 50 interviews with Dr. Porges. All of them have been informative, but Dr. Porges was particularly "on" in this one, and Mark was spacious, allowing Stephen to riff and go down some really nuanced rabbit holes. I'm writing this msg as I watch the conversation for the third time in as many months (both here and on your channel, Mark). Am super appreciative! Kind and respectful regards, gentlemen. And happy parenting, Mark! - Richard "Tomorrow's mastery (and mystery) begins with mental (and embodied!) calm today."

I'm Bowlby, a therapy dog and I see the value in this self-care exercise. I shake off my anxious moments.

This was a fascinating video, thank you. I haven’t looked at your full list of videos yet, but a supplemental video based on this with a focus on autism would allow people like me to better connect and be able to work with the information. Thank you!!!

Kitten paw 🐾 analogy was great

Our internal networks transform and heal in relationship to how safe our bodies feel.

Important information, thank you for sharing it !

I felt a sense of calm and aliveness at the start, and that itself was a wonder. By the end i was aware of my body feeling safe and yet i was not frightened of the safety. This is a miracle. I looked around my space and for the fist time ever felt its safety rather than just knowing it safe. I have so much gratitude Kristen. Earler i started to cry as i cradled my neck.

I actually found this hard to do so I stopped as you recommended. The light touch and slowness was really irritating to me. Some words were making me feel uncomfortable too. I guess we are all very different.

beautiful moments

it would be great to hear identity first language use for the neurodivergent community. you can say "your autistic client" instead of "your client on the autism spectrum". thank you.

This was a wonderful wonderful talk. Thank you very much.

& suddenly so much of my life makes sense. Huge thanks for the work you do.

The host microphone is terrible. I just can’t listen to this.

This is a great tool to add to the toolbox. I have had significant symptoms which doctors including a professor of psychiatry diagnosed as anxiety and panic disorder, unfortunately they all disregarded my opinion. It turns out due to mercury fillings being haphazardly removed I became toxic, this toxicity impaired my gut microbiome which caused dysbiosis, which caused malnutrition (I am not underweight, just under nourished). I have slowly improved my nutritional status, but no thanks to 100% of doctors. I try various supplements based off research, I react to some, this indicates something, and I accumulate plenty of information, observations etc. One of the many supplements I tried a couple of years ago was thiamine, about 300mg benfotiamine, 100mg TTFD, 100mg HCL per day, this did nothing so after 12 months I dropped this level of dosing and just went to 100mg HCL. However earlier this year I tried again and wow, my symptoms increased significantly.... so me being me and not a doctor, I asked, "why, what would cause that", I further researched in this direction, and turns out that the reason I didn't react the first time, was because my gut microbiome had an overabundance of thiamine degrading bacteria coupled with the enzymes such as pyruvate dehydrogenase and lactate dehydrogenase were inactive, where as after much supplementing and working at eliminating the toxins the enzymes were able to be reactivated. I was low in many nutrients, not just thiamine, but thiamine is essential because of the effect it has on the CNS, ANS and digestion, but the other nutrients are also required, so it's a puzzle to try and get things working. And I should add, one of the doctors did test my thiamine blood serum levels, and they was slightly high, so the doctor confidently said my thiamine is fine, unfortunately it's not that simple, thiamine in the blood doesn't indicate thiamine in the brain, liver, etc. etc. Thiamine in the blood doesn't mean it is being utilised, if you have petrol in you cars fuel tank, doesn't mean the fuel is getting to the engine, you know it's getting to the engine by checking the exhaust. Similarly we need to test metabolites to know if the thiamine is actually being used, I'm not certain, but from memory it might be transketolase. It is far too simplistic to say psychological symptoms have a psychological cause. And it's far too simplistic to test blood serum.... it's a bizarre world where the standard for professionals is one of incompetence.

Thank you! ❤ I consider Dr. Porges a teacher, and I am always grateful for his lessons. I had and have around me, abandoned cats and kittens, for almost 20 years now. I've learned from them that they don't know the level of my pain if I don't let them know, usually by screaming. I am communicating like this to let them know if and how much they have to go playing. I don't like it but that's the only way I found so far.

I really liked the way seth porges talks about Dr Porges ..respect love but non competative ..He is standing tall by himself ..bravo to both ths father and son ❤ what a legacy to leave to next generation . Profoundly moving to each of us as a parent and an adult child ! Intergeneration bridges of healing .namaste to both.❤🎉❤

My counselor used some polyvagul techniques and was very perceptive to my body language while going through our first session. I felt heard, engaged, and confident. Truly thankful to have found my counsels. She gave me this as homework before our next session

El gusto y necesidad se rompe en géneros: yo aumento la velocidad en los videos porque me gusta que vayan rápido y al grano porque si no pierdo la atención 🤦🏻‍♀️😀👌

La versión en inglés está muy bien narrado, se entiende muy bien. El tono de voz dinámico y pausado permite la comprensión y disfrute del video. Sin embrago, la versión en español está narrada como a la prisa y en un tono neutro que tiende a ser monótono y por ende aburrido al escucharlo. Si pudieran grabarlo más pausado y con un tono más vivo en la narración sería magnífico. De todas formas muchísimas gracias por este gran recurso!!

I see a slight, contradiction in what Steve is addressing @23.00 with respect to what he had just addressed prior (e.g., therapist in a war zone and naturally there adaptive high defensive fight/flight sympathetic-adrenal response, which can also be applied albeit on another scale with a therapist who is dealing with their own complex PTSD trauma history). Naturally, you cannot shift states intentionally (e.g., "Now I must do this somatic movement, dance, yoga, pranayama" etc.) in order to then be most available for my clients. I feel that part of being more compassionate is being less evaluative. Yet, the obvious contradiction (not conceptually but driven by a certain degree of urgency which can then of course naturally increases defense) is you cannot shift states to be more available for your clients on cue or intention. Yes, you can allow moments to slip in. Slowing down, longer exhales, etc. However, I think (equally so) it is much more compassionate and mindful if we refrain from being too evaluative on ourselves. To go off on a directly related but slight tangent, Deb Dana once said during a conference (and I am paraphrasing) that she "...Advises clinic directors not to have their therapists see their patients unless they can be to some moderate degree in ventral otherwise what use as a therapist or how useful can you really be with your patient." (the implication that you are just exacerbating more defenses by your less presencing or availability with your patient which can be more deleterious than good). I took umbrage to that. I vehemently disagree and that is how shall we say a bit unsuspectingly extraordinarily evaluative. Even as therapists we are of course first and foremost humans with our own varying degrees of defenses and trauma. To be a minimal optimal state is not always available. So, I think a much more productive and compassionate disposition would be an emphasis on being okay with where we are (rather than the implication you should not be seeing patients at that time if you cannot get to a sufficient degree of ventral, which then of course creates, to whatever degree a defense against it). We bring what we can bring. We need to honor and respect where we are. By doing so we are then (not by intention) paradoxically and incidentally more available. Overall this interview with Steve was wonderful, most enjoyable to watch.

Thank you for this amazing podcast!!! I find this fascinating. I’m a bodyworker and recently teach touch techniques for application on the aged. I wonder if he could speak about polyvagal theory for that sector of the population. I found that when treating my mum who had dementia- the moment I was massaging her face /head area, she changed dramatically. She loved it and just soaked it up. Together with using other remedial techniques, Over time her dysphagia also improved dramatically. Now I know that it was also her Social nervous system stimulated and nourished! I was into the “ventral vagal without knowing it/naming it. I also maintained constant face to face contact (no horrible mask like all the staff were wearing). Ooooh this is an exciting field! I hope Stephen might share his view on the elderly too.

Thank you. Cant wait to listen. Whilst I listen intently to this video, could you recommend other videos or material where Stephen discusses the social nervous system, particularly the face & vagal tone? I recently heard Dr Robert Schleip mention this. I have great interest in this, particularly with the elderly and even moreso those in aged care. Thank you for sharing important work for us all. Greetings from Australia.

Do you have research that shows that lateral eye movement affects the parasympathetic nervous system? And yes, it does matter. If you're going to make claims about the nervous system there needs to be some science. Saying that moving your eyes impacts the brain means nothing, every single thing impacts your brain.

Thank you so, so much for this. I am a Health Coach who healed my own nervous system using a similar toolbox (hence the career change). I'm putting together a programme for clients, but was finding it challenging to articulate the different ideas and Amanda's talk really does simplify things beautifully. Book ordered and will be recommending it to others! Love the illustrations, too.

Wow! This has been one of the best PV talks I've have watched! You are truly a gift to all of our lives Amanda. Your book looks amazing! It is wonderful to be able to have a resource that has such an holistic and whole systems approach with very accessible tools for both practitioners and clients. My background is also health and well-being. I'm also a trained Buteyko Breathing Coach. When I met the Polyvagal Theory it was like having a big epiphany! Movement and the breath are great state changes. Add in polyvagal theory and we have something. I love how personalised your examples are and I see how that is a reflection of your PT background. Awesome! Thank you so very much! 💚💙🌀🙏🏻

Thank you so much Amanda Armstrong! You are a gifted healer.

You missed an important thing Seth: community building should be our full time job. Feed your next door neighbor and find a need and provide it. They teach this to entrepreneurs about creating a business. For Goodness sake, you are as rich as the number of friends you nurture. Jesus taught this with the way he lived. Go to any American church today and the preacher is on a pedestal like a performer doing a job. After service, his job is done. Jesus was on call 24/7.

Thank you so very much Amber! The science is always catching up 😊💚💙💙🙏🏻

I Love PolyVagal Theory & Stephen Porges! I've already given up social media

I London under ground tube fire people froze unable to react, some fleed into fire . And then other people remained calm logical. So we see danger threats cause primative brain to over rule our logical more modern brain.

Seth thank you for developing such a succinct and simple way of explaining your fathers work - brilliant

This is wonderfully encouraging 🫶 I’m so excited about where things will lead.

beautiful, thank. youso much <33

Wow thank you for the simple language - I can put my dictionary away now Seth 😅😅😅

Excellent video. Thank you. It explains the ANS really well, and the visual was helpful. I really liked the blended states of 'safe and mobilised' and 'safe and immobilised'. I am curious, however, that with co-regulation, you suggest choosing to be with people that offer safety. I think this is partly helpful, yet what about the times we just don't have the choice? I have been practising something called The Work of Byron Katie, which offers the opportunity to sit in stillness and meditation to question the things that cause me to feel unsafe (my thinking). With practice, things that felt unsafe dissipate, and I feel more regulated. Likewise, EMDR, as I am experiencing it, can have similar effects: what once was alarming to my ANS has no velcro or rub, and my nervous system is calmer. My experience with The Work of Byron Katie allows me to accept reality and use what feels threatening to learn from, AND that doesn't mean I put myself in serious danger. I mean the situations that I perceive as dangerous but really aren't. I hope I'm making sense. There are so many options to meet the ANS and learn to open up my mind and heart, and it is exciting that there are options. It feels more controlling to eliminate perceived unsafe people (and if that is all one can do to feel calm and safe, I get it). I like to practice self-inquiry first to understand myself and also a deeper understanding of others, which in turn brings more compassion (self and others) and peace to my world. I can be around once-perceived vexatious spirits and am in peace and connection with myself and others. And it doesn't mean I force myself to be around them. Thank you. Thought-provoking for me.

Thank you so much for having me on to have this conversation!