oh! saying that alpha I is his first attempt at creating a "disruptor" is hella interesting, considering that he's the only one of it's creations so far that *has* been a protagonist in it's game. like, nero mentions it back in delta, but I like the consistency here. the protagonists are the weak ones. the ones who have no business winning, and yet do, anyways. it's some undertale shit. It's determination, but probably a bit less meta in the context of 14

Tataru is a menace.

Also goddamn just watched the rest. The translation for the final boss is such ass. Holy shit. It's a completely different thing entirely.

I was indeed bored out of my mind playing this quest in English.

シルフ族がこんなに皆さんから嫌われてるの悲しい...でふっち🥺 They're one of my favorite tribes because of how they speak! It's so cute! Also makes sense for them to not trust random human strangers cause why would they? They've been having issues with the empire and Gridania. it's like what company will let random strangers come up to the receptionist and demand to talk with the CEO? Especially if that company is in a totally different country with totally different culture?

1:24 this joke is such a banger opener for a stream that winds up 3 hours longer than your usual

The name "Enterprise" in the US Navy actually has a long and fascinating history en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_of_the_United_States_Navy_named_Enterprise. "The Big E" was one of only three American carriers to survive the entire Pacific War (World War II). The ship was so vital that the Japanese reported it sunk three times, only for it to keep returning to battle. Maybe it's an obscure historical reference? Who knows.

2:31:20 He Doesn't Know!!

2:31:20 He Knows!!

Somehow woman turns into a bunny rabbit. Also, "Why are we just standing there?" is a very common reaction to the cutscenes in this game.

Tsuyu... :Whenlifegetsatyou:

2:06:50 the phrasing "strong in the echo" combined with the out-of-nowhere-and-never-brought-again term "Walker" makes me feel that somebody had just finished watching star wars before doing the TL and went "oh you know what'd be cool?!"

English localizers absolutely come off as conceited and condescending, always have to me whenever I hear anything come out their mouths defending fuck ups instead of owning them then changing/growing like an adult. Even just the way a lot of them seem to sneer at everyone else when explaining their job, as if to implicitly brag that they're any level of multilingual so they're not like other ENG ppl, while writing their own prose on projects in a way that shows they aren't a writer of any caliber but Shapes and Colors for Toddlers in their native fucking language either. It feels like this weird intersection of conceit because they speak English, a racist feeling of superiority that if a story isn't the most Western or Generic White(TM) shit ever it's lesser/incomprehensible, orientalist views and xenophobia dealing with a foreign Asian language, and crippling insecurity because Mommy and Daddy forgot to hug them. Grown ass perpetual children actively spreading a miasma of malicious ignorance as their global export instead of sharing the arts with others. Just another contributor to why many native English speakers often live up to the stereotype of existing shoving their heads up their fetid assholes. Loved the vid. I feel like I'm finally understanding XIV, and I've been an unreasonable, unfounded hater of MSQ for many years because of Koji dragging his taint all over everything. My eyes are opened. Some faults are still there to my tastes but wow, this is an entirely different quality of writing.

2:17:30 "I'm pretty sure the VOD will be fine" just in case no one pointed this to you: it is not

regarding the Yugiri and forgiveness dilemma could that also be translated to ENG along the lines of "Please find it in you to forgive them due to my carelessness?" unless I'm fucking up how to read 免じて, I got this feeling based on how the villagers reacted negatively when she gives them her speech before this iirc, so it's like asking the player to forgive the villagers not only for their feelings but also Yugiri's provocation of their feelings which created a negative reaction- it rly is super roundabout lol

Too bad Asahi in english wasn't nearly as interesting :(

1:53:50 oh don't mind me saving this for when im arguing with someone later "His SEED has quickened in his lover" ew

So you enjoy Monster energy drinks and mini Mikus, huh.

Krile also can't turn her ability off. It's one of the major parts of her character story. Wiki says: "When she was twelve years old, Krile discovered she possessed the Echo, manifesting as a sensitivity to the whispers of the soul, and her adolescence was a dark time hounded by the thoughts of others, leading her to develop a guarded personality that many found off-putting."

2:09:06 for exactly one line, zenos became the most reasonable character in the whole scene

Came across this from a twitter thread!

39:40 HE DOUBLED DOWN ON THE WET BEAST RACE BEING CALLED A REFERENCE TO W*TBACKS INCREDIBLE

I've watched your videos on and off on the side. Would you consider the localization to have become worse or better since the start of a realm reborn to now?

2:08:23 I guess the team figured commas were too boring, and so they started using dashes instead. Obviously the kami shit is the more egregious, but just ignoring that for a second, what's with all the dashes? that's not really how you use punctuation. I get that dashes can be used to set up an aside, sometimes. it's similar to using parentheses, but that's not how they're being used here. it's only being used to separate sentences.. boys, that's what a comma is for. The big stupid issues take the spotlight, obviously, but I just find it impressive how even on the very basic stuff, stuff that should be a given; sentence construction, punctuation, fuckiin' using the right words, they somehow fuck it up and make it always harder to read.

video shows a length of 2:31:35 on my sub feed, but when I click on it it's actually 6:45 long. this is very strange

but actually, regarding the reasoning for using "by the kami".... I don't think they're dumb enough that they think that kami work in this or that way. I think they're dumb enough they don't think about how kami work. like, the fact of the ideas surrounding kami are not something they misunderstand, they're something they don't even think about, or don't consider to be a relevant factor in some way. and so, they just fall back into old habits. they write a character and they think "oh here's where I usually write BY THE GODS, so, now I gotta write the hingashi equivalent of the phrase". Like, the core assumption is that there must be an equivalent to the phrase, and every other stupid ass decision is derived from that.

1:03:54 what an infuriating little piece of writing. trust koji to have the most **pedestrian** understanding of what is actually a fairly interesting (if kinda entry level) linguistic difference between the two languages he's supposed to be working with.

I like the idea they started puting inane terms in brackets in this expac to see if the english team would just take them out "「アリゼー」. Let's see you take this one out of the story, you fuckers."

wait I always assumed REAL Ida was a 1.0 character. like it felt so obvious to me. Without that, this really feels like an Armen Tamzarian sorta reveal lmao

That last part about kami was interesting. I think you should consider clipping that as a separate video to share with anyone who defends this particular translation.

am I fucking faceblind or something? how come Dan makes fun of how recognizable urianger was with the mask and meanwhile I have to wait until the voiced cutscene happens and be like :O!

完全な無 is an interesting term. I love when terms like this and different degrees and concepts of "nothingness" show up in stories, because it feels like I can lean into my own understanding of compsci to make sense of them. At least the way you explain it, and if im understanding correctly, it feels like the difference between the result from the flood of light and the flood of dark, is similar to the difference between "void" and "null", or between "zero" and "NaN". Data that means "nothing", vs no data at all.

Oof, the dialogue in Castrum Meridianum is a major L for the French translation. It's very clearly translated from the English script and not the Japanese script. I won't even bother posting the dialogue to compare, because it's literally just the English dialogue but in French.

"I hate sand" So say we all.

Nice game theories.

Okay finally finished watching this on, time to catch up with the rest of the vods.

5:47:28 I finally have an excuse to mention that Thal's name was specifically chosen by koji in order to rhyme with Balls. I am not joking or exaggerating even a little bit

One of the things I was most looking forward to when catching up with this series was seeing what the speech quirks of the various tribes are in the original Japanese. To learn that the Sylphs essentially talk in the Japanese equivalent of uwu-speak was pretty funny. In the french translation, they made the Sylphs speak in rhymes, which isn't very cutesy, but does at least fit with their forest-trickster vibe.

A lot of alphinaud talk in this one. Alphinaud is a character I fucking hated in EN. He was constantly mean and full of himself, and seemingly terrible at diplomacy, which would have been the one reason I would have seen everyone at the Dawn putting up with his ass. I mean really, it makes minfilia seem like an idiot, because she sends him to do all this political stuff, and he always fucks it up in some way. He throws a tantrum in front of Aymeric, he gets told off by the leaders of the three nations, and on and on. There's a tonal inconsistency there in the EN that really made it irritating whenever he showed up on screen. Then when the whole crystal braves thing happened it felt like just comeuppance for the little asshole. I was glad everything went to shit for him. the difference in the treatment of alphinaud is *THAT* big. And the worst part is, for all the mean spirited shit surrounding that character that must have been on purpose, I don't think the loc team meant to have him be bad at diplomacy. I think they just don't know how to write diplomatically, since that involves being aware of your position and trying to understand the other person's point of view, both skills very clearly lacking among these people.

I just discovered this series, and I'm really dismayed that the translation is so butchered. I like learning about fantasy lore, so it's annoying that some of the stuff I've learned about Eorzea might be erroneous. I decided to check the french translation since it's supposedly more accurate (and I know french). First the exchange between Minfilia and the Warrior of Darkness. Minfilia : Je suis prête à aller dans votre monde pour tenter de contenir la Lumière qui l'inonde. Rien n'est encore perdu. Guerrier des Ténèbres : Foutaises ! Pourquoi devrions-nous croire vos belles promesses ? Hydaelyn, sa Messagère... Où étiez-vous quand nous avions besoin de votre aide !? Minfilia : Tout comme Zordiarche, qui est impuissant sans les Asciens, Hydaelyn est incapable d'empêcher directement la surabondance de Lumière. How I would translate the french: Minfilia: I am ready to travel to your world to try to contain the Light that floods it. Nothing is yet lost. The Warrior of Darkness: Bullshit! Why should we believe your pretty promises? Hydaelyn, her Messenger... Where were you when we needed your help!? Minfilia: Just like Zodiark, who is powerless without the Ascians, Hydaelyn is incapable of directly stopping the overabundance of Light. And then the interaction between Alphinaud and Alisaie: Alisaie : On peut savoir pour qui elle se prend, celle-là ? Alphinaud : Notre amie a dû nouer un pacte avec cette adorable Pixie. Elle me rappelle un peu toi, quand nous étions petits. How I would translate the french: Alisaie: Who does she take herself for? Alphinaud: Our friend has made a pact with an adorable Pixie. She reminds me a little of you, when we were young. So yeah, it does seem more accurate. I guess I'll have to play in french now. Pretty annoying to have to rewrite all my macros ;_;

Commenting for engagement. Keep up the good work!

This is unbearably depressing, but i have to admit even with me only having played the ENG translation of FF14 I've been noticing the various "hiccups" throughout the story since HW and it was most apparent in ShB and EW.

As a guy whose only played the game in english (I only know a few JP swears), its genuenly insane just how much of the stuff in ARR/HW gets paid off SUPER HARD in Post-StB through Endwalker. Also, revealing that all the Alphinaud hate in game was added by the Loc team is super vindicating for guys like me who REALLY prefer Alphinaud to Alisaie and never understood why the game treated him so meanspiritedly.

1:47:00 and then 3:38:00 if you wanna see how the entire EN community got misled into thinking that "The Echo" was from Hydaelyn. (Also I know it's pronounced し得る (しうる) but I was too mad to double check myself. Please understand) For a concise explanation based on what they said in the game here: Some people are Transcendent, and through that Transcendence can hear Hydaelyns voice, and potentially receive The Blessing of Light. The English needs to rewrite all of these explanations because they dug themselves a hole with "The Echo", calling it Hydaelyn's Gift. So they can't have The Warriors of Darkness have The Echo. This is a profoundly pathetic cover-up attempt for a translation mistake. Just fucking fix the mistake.

Where does it say Thordan is transcendent? I seem to have missed it.

I praise Natsuki Yoshikawa's writing ability for circumventing Koji Fox's sabotage and forcing him to course correct the lore in Shadowbringer-Endwalker's era as otherwise it would be completely nonsensical. Crazy to think of how much stuff I missed and how much of seemingly important Ascian content felt like filler / fluff, despite them playing an intergral part in everything.

Even just knowing the few basic words of Japanese that I do, I could tell that some of the dialogue was different to what I was reading - but I didn't realize the changes were so substantial. People often say the Ascians were generic mustache twirling villains in ARR because their lore hadn't been written yet, but it seems that just isn't true at all. Likewise, the Echo/Transcendence and the Blessing of Light were indeed two different things since ARR, and it was the English localization that caused people (myself included) to confuse and conflate them for like four expansions until ShB and EW finally clarified... only for some to mistakenly call that a retcon. I'm very interested to hear about the expansions.

Great cooking 👍 "You kinda came at the end," he says while there's still one and half hours to go of the stream.

Take a drink every time DoublePerfectKO says "such a cool turn of phrase" in his videos.

I had known for a while the English version of the game rewrote many things, right down to minions. I sort of half accepted it and even then i wasn't a fan of Koji fox and his Bullshit of "If it happens in the game it happens in the lore" to excuse the plethora of crossover events, even Nier... Yet i didn't think it was this bad. Like this wholly terrible. To me after seeing this and watching some of the stream VODs of your playthrough...I'm floored at the changes and the dialogue choices more than before. Whole important lines removed for no reason. Dialogue tone shifts and more...The stuff relevant in 2.0 keeps going into 7.0 and beyond... I desperately would love a mod in 14 to auto translate the Japanese text at least to some extent so i can read the dialogue that it was meant to be...because as much as i want to learn a new language, i don't have the time or mental capacity currently. And as you said, it shouldn't be a requirement to enjoy the actual story. I vow to never call it the Echo anymore either. It is Transcendence because now? That word makes everything in the game make 500% sense and clears up a lot of the stuff that happens.