In ProjectRho, there is a colleague of Dr. Zubin, who proposed a less radioactive variant of the NSWR, the Lithium SaltWater Rocket. Could you please explain on that design?
@brycemalone10027 сағат бұрын
Why not position the heat shield facing the sun? I haven’t done the math but those tiles are excellent insulators. The black surface will be hot but most of that heat will stay on the surface and not transfer to the tanks. Does the depot not have a heat shield?
@EagerSpace6 сағат бұрын
I'm assuming the propellant depot has no heat shield. We don't actually know.
@paintedpony29358 сағат бұрын
Agreed. He contradicts his own ratios. This entire piece is a waste of our time and a stroke of his ego.
@mariuskatutis268715 сағат бұрын
peak cognitive dissonance is how i describe the shuttle. worst megaproject of all time
@EagerSpace6 сағат бұрын
Shuttle had a very specific goal - to make NASA an permanent part of the federal government - and it did that very well. Just not the goal that many of us were hoping.
@mariuskatutis26874 сағат бұрын
@EagerSpace yeah in the worst way possible
@mervstash369216 сағат бұрын
There is no race. It's like saying who is going to dominate delivering supplies to the south pole. It's a nothing burger industry. All of these companies are competing over just a few billion dollars in private launches each year.
@matsv20116 сағат бұрын
It would seam to me that we are closing in a on a price that would make commercial only space tourist somewhat viable. If they only want to be in space for a shorter period of time, there is really no reason to go out to ISS orbit, and then a lower orbit would be viable, hence a considerably larger crew capsule could be used. The trajectory of launch could also be cost optimized with a boaster ground landing. Of cause, we still talk about multiple millions of dollars, but then on the other hand, this is still falcon 9 numbers and not starship numbers.
@virginiahansen32020 сағат бұрын
I love the "life and consciousness of the crew thing". Like the spacecraft maker would be like "wut, yeah they're passed out from hypoxia, but they're not DEAD! We're compliant! They'll be fine!"
@CarloVaccariPlusКүн бұрын
RL10 can run at different mixture ratios. When you hear "propellent utilization" called out they switch from max thrust mix ratio to best-depletion mix ratio to minimize burnout mass.
@EagerSpaceКүн бұрын
Cool. Thanks.
@morenooriental7865Күн бұрын
N A S A
@dwightlooiКүн бұрын
What about the Chinese? They are already test flying a rocket with the Falcon 9's octaweb 9 engine configuration and landing legs. They have also copied the Mechazilla launch tower in 6 months and will be attempting a tower catch next year. The CZ-9 is now just like the Superheavy with both expendable and reuseable upper stages.
@EagerSpaceКүн бұрын
It's really hard to evaluate any of the chinese launch companies because there is so little information available. I expect they will get something working but I have no idea what it will be or when.
@dwightlooiКүн бұрын
@@EagerSpace Well, you CAN to some degree. They have launch, hover and landing footage. They also have video of the Mechazilla Clone tower putting the chopstick arms through its paces. So, it's not all behind a veil of secretly or just PPTs.
@EagerSpace6 сағат бұрын
To do the analysis I want I need detail - stage masses, propellant mass, etc. Building a hopper doesn't tell me much about a real rocket - New Shepard is a good hopper but it's far too heavy to work as an orbital stage. I have the same problem with a bunch of rockets. SpaceX is pretty unique in how much they share.
@dwightlooi3 сағат бұрын
@EagerSpace Actually, once you know the external dimensions and the material of the booster you can guesstimate it's propellant fraction to within 10% or better. Going from aluminum to aluminum-lithium for instance only gets you 1% on a good day. For CH4/LOX you are looking at about 98% for balloon tanks, 95% for AlLi, 94% for aluminum and 88~90% for steel. LH2/LOX is about 5~6% worse; RP1/LOX is about 1% better.
@matsv201Күн бұрын
The main objective of the federal government is to have as many people as possible on payrole
@mikkelhpandaКүн бұрын
Although this video has been nice and informative, it rather misses the mark with one important point: the question is, "why no space PLANES", not "why no SSTOs". One nice cheat offered by a space plane is that it does not need to LIFT all the mass at start. Unlike conventional rockets, it can begin with horizontal take-off acceleration. You have 2 components to the required delta V: horizontal and vertical. In conventional vertical launch rockets, any thrust insufficient to launch is wasted. In planes, however, can accumulate the horizontal delta V before adding in the horizontal once the overall mass is low enough. Another nice thing about planes is that they have wings. These have a considerable amount of surface area that can actually help to reduce reentry heating, decreasing the mass necessary for heat protection. These wings can also allow for aerodynamic reentry/landing, which decrease the required return fuel mass. Of course, actually dealing with PLANES adds a LOT of complexity that is difficult to cover, even with a much longer video. Oh, yeah, the benefits of airbreathing rockets deserve much more intensive treatment. Not to mention some of the other benefits, as well as some downsides, of aerodynamic forces in launch.
@EagerSpaceКүн бұрын
I talk about Dawn Aerospace in a different video; they have a spaceplane first stage architecture. Their plane is a rocketplane and I think that's likely to be the best approach.
@RescomGamerКүн бұрын
nice video thanks for your time.
@EagerSpaceКүн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@saquistКүн бұрын
Disconnecting the piping on the Vulcan Rocket to eject the Main Engines for recovery is going to be a HUGE nightmare for leaks and failures. If they try this I see a tone of delays and scrubs for every attempted recover.
@EagerSpaceКүн бұрын
It's pretty much the same thing that shuttle did to disconnect the external tank. There were some problems with that for shuttle but since Vulcan uses methane rather than hydrogen it should be easier to deal with. It will take time to develop but a lot of that can be done before you fly.
@saquistКүн бұрын
@EagerSpace The shuttle QDs were external.Vulcan shall be internal and inoperable after stack. I'd also question if its 2 QD or 4 QD (Quick Disconnect)
@EagerSpace6 сағат бұрын
The quick disconnects for the shuttle are just forward of the front of the body flap and are covered with doors for reentry, so they are by necessity internal to the orbiter.
@saquist5 сағат бұрын
@EagerSpace Yes but I don't think that is same as the disconnects and separation required for the entire structural thrust puck.
@SleepyMusician-s7oКүн бұрын
SpaceX, they already have a REAL reusable first stage and now a fully reusable super heavy lift vehicle in development while any other company is still on the testing phase before trying to even recover (except blue origin with the new Shepard and now new glenn and technically ULA since they flown the Vulcan twice)
@saumyacow4435Күн бұрын
One thing Peter Beck (Rocket Lab CEO) said in an interview not long after the original announcement of Neutron is that only a third of the cost of a launch is the vehicle. The rest goes into operations. Therefore what actually matters is having a rocket that facilitates a high cadence. Neutron's design spec was for reuse within 24 hours. that makes perfect sense given that there is no recovery/refurbishment of the second stage. You just drop a new second stage (with payload attached) and away you go. The other thing rarely understood is that Neutron's design means the second stage is minimalist in cost. Most of the vehicle cost is recovered with the first stage. I think that a lot of people are so fascinated by the idea of "fully reusable" that they ignore the economics. It's going to be cheaper to have a small expendable part (second stage) if what you get in return is a lighter vehicle that doesn't spend weeks in recovery/refurbishment phase. Also there is a price in full reusability that scarcely gets mentioned. A fully reusable second stage means a second stage with both the mass of thermal protection and structural mass needed for surviving re-entry. The consequence is doubling the mass of the first stage for a given payload, since all that mass needed for the second stage to be reusable means more mass in the booster. The whole thing (yes I'm talking about Starship) becomes even more expensive as a result because (see above) operational costs.
@matsv201Күн бұрын
There is a function in the grapth plot to make the grapth smooth, so the ridges from the calculation is not vissible
@EagerSpaceКүн бұрын
Are you saying that I could have smoothed them? I prefer not to do that.
@matsv201Күн бұрын
@EagerSpace well i guess. Its a matter of tast.
@nicolaslepage3503Күн бұрын
Does the placement of the catch point introduce an additional element to the landing difficulty? The Starship and Super Heavy booster are caught at a point above their center of mass, whereas the Falcon 9 lands with support below its center of mass, making that method inherently unstable. Doesn't this imply that for the Super Heavy catch, only the positional accuracy needs to be extremely precise, while slight deviations in angular and linear momentum may not have significant consequences, since the booster will naturally settle into a stable rest position?
@EagerSpaceКүн бұрын
Maybe. If the catch has velocity to the side so the booster just swings a bit, that would likely be fine. But if it has velocity perpendicular to that, it will hit the arms and/or stress one catch point more than the other. Falcon 9 needs to have horizontal velocity low enough that it a) doesn't tip over and b) doesn't overstress the landing legs in the direction it's going. But it's actually very stable because the center of mass is quite low due to the mass of the engine section.
@---jc7piКүн бұрын
As a backend developer, your website is perfection.
@matsv201Күн бұрын
2:03 Note, The inaccuracy of the GPS will effect the droneship and the rocket in the same direction and amount to over 90%. So if the inaccuracy is 5 meter, the actual differential between them will be lower than 50cm, and probobly even less so
@EagerSpaceКүн бұрын
The difference is going to be a function of how far away the booster is from the droneship. At landing I would expect it to be small, but at the start of the landing burn it has the potential to be quite a bit more.
@matsv201Күн бұрын
@EagerSpace well sure. But that difftance would drift to virtually zero but still so slower than the targeting burn. So i would in this case claim its problem solve it self. Of cause, there will be some margin of error. But way less than even the diameter of the rocket.
@EagerSpace6 сағат бұрын
I think the problem is that the first order goal is hitting the velocity correct at landing. If you could hover it would be easy, but you need to focus most of your attention on the first order goal and not on hitting the center. Though I suspect that more of the error may be from the drone ship being out of position. Interesting picture here: www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/b3zr0i/chart_with_the_approximate_falcon_9_landing/
@matsv201Күн бұрын
To put it bluntly. Falcon 9: Just make it work with mostly traditional method. Star ship: use more hightech engines and fuel, and use the scale advantage. Neutron: Use high tech building material throughout to make it all over a better rocket My guess is that Neutron is going to start to pick up Falcon 9 market when it start to ramp down. It seams like its the most optimal solution. But eventually someone probobly figure out a way to land a downrange rocket that is not on a drone ship. What about just a small island with a landing pad. Could theoretically just fuel it and fly it back, it would even need that much fuel. Using aerodynamics could probobly hit very close to the pad on the way down and only a tiny amount of fuel would be needed to actually stop the rocket.
@EagerSpaceКүн бұрын
I talk about this in the super heavy drone ship video, but the big problem is that you launch in different directions depending on what you are doing, so there's no one place you can land. And you need to set up infrastructure and marine assets to get fuel out to wherever you land.
@matsv201Күн бұрын
@EagerSpace well... its really a matter of finding a mission you do a lot of times that have the same tryjectory...like a moon/mars refuling mission.
@razibbaraljoy9978Күн бұрын
Without SpaceX rocket reusability was out of the question. Now it is the core issue. SpaceX is not the typical money making machine for the board members, it is the gift for humanity. Only SpaceX can make human multiplaneterry species.
@sk33t_38Күн бұрын
at this point, not having Elon involved in your company should triple its worth
@RinoaLКүн бұрын
Cute little channel you got here. I'll subscribe.
@DawgPro2 күн бұрын
Hi! Thank You for posting. This is an nice clip... so I did check your channel. I'm sorry but with titles like "Orion Capsule Coverup?" you'll only pull the flim flam wich is not what I'm looking for.
@EagerSpaceКүн бұрын
It is an unfortunate reality that KZbin rewards more edgy titles than more placid ones. This is definitely on the edgy side for me, but I think it's an accurate description of what has happened. NASA claimed they had a small issue with the Orion heat shield. They didn't put any detailed information in their post flight report (I did a FOIA request to get it), and then it's not until more than a year later that we find out through a NASA OIG report that there were significant issues and pictures that NASA had neglected to share in the time since Artemis 1. NASA is required to make that sort of information public in the space act of 1958 that created NASA. When the OIG report was released, NASA announced they would convene an expert panel to look at the issue and they would be done in July. No report from the expert panel has surfaced. That was the state when I made the video. Since then there have been months of silence, until late October when NASA said they knew what the cause was but would not tell us what it was until they did more tests. When you have a major issue that only comes to light because your internal investigational department publicizes it, I think that meets the definition of a coverup. SpaceNews has a decent article about it here: spacenews.com/nasa-finds-but-does-not-disclose-root-cause-of-orion-heat-shield-erosion/
@xWood40002 күн бұрын
I think stoke space are developing the special efficient 2nd engine precisely because otherwise they can't get any payload to orbit
@xWood40002 күн бұрын
Besides the obvious heat shield thing
@xWood40002 күн бұрын
I think stoke space is developing the special efficient 2nd engine precisely because otherwise they can't get any payload to orbit
@charliewalker94432 күн бұрын
I think long term Rocket Lab will win z
@matthewkaiser78032 күн бұрын
Could you look at and discuss the Nuclear Salt-Water Rocket engine and it's cousin the Lithium Salt-Water Rocket? ProjectRho has a good description.i would be interested in seeing your math on an economy utilizing it.
@EagerSpaceКүн бұрын
I have a video on the nuclear salt water rocket in my "crazy nuclear rocket" series. The short answer on the nuclear salt water rocket is that I don't think you can actually build it.
@danielpv17632 күн бұрын
Love being a RKLB investor, we are going to dethrone Musk.
@jortor29322 күн бұрын
We all won son we all won we all have a rocket that we realise more or less around 16 that its reusable
@timwilliams91002 күн бұрын
Here is a crazy idea: how about using the Neutron Booster stage paired with a Stoke Orbital Stage that could fit inside the Booster's "hungry hippo" Fairings? No need for the orbital reusable stoke booster to carry fairings or the sturdier payload support, Also since there is no need for a huge vacuum Nozzle (which takes up a lot of space) perhaps you could have bigger fuel tanks in the booster. Any feedback on a Hybrid of the Two of your rockets systems you have reviewed?
@EagerSpaceКүн бұрын
I think it's unlikely, but stranger things have happened.
@evolutionsfake2 күн бұрын
Why is this video pretending tha SpaceX hasn't already won the race? They are launching 4 times a day! Reusing all the rockets.
@feryth2 күн бұрын
Version 1, variant 2, block 3 😂
@COSMEREAUDIO2 күн бұрын
Spacex won
@43Jodo2 күн бұрын
24:28 "Version 1, Variant 2, Block 3" 😂
@magtovi3 күн бұрын
Space X Next question
@LampYeeter3 күн бұрын
25:00 You used mass average molecular weight when you should have used number average molecular weight. 6790g/18g/mol = 377mol. 240g/2g/mol = 120mol. (377mol*18g/mol + 120mol*2g/mol) / (377mol + 120mol) = 14.1g/mol. Doing the same for Raptor it is 26.8g/mol.
@Skyfalcon123453 күн бұрын
I think the race ended about 6 years ago with a reused Block 5 being launched for the first time.
@quattrocity96203 күн бұрын
I think they should make one out of ABS and rhino lining
@TheWizardGamez3 күн бұрын
I’d have to disagree on the 2 rockets thing. The problem isn’t that they had multiple rockets, the problem was that said rockets were in the same weight class. If SpaceX wanted to launch more falcon 1s for sole reason they could do it without effecting the falcon 9 market that much
@materialburst9833 күн бұрын
Will be crazy if both Starship and Super heavy are caught and reused before anyone else even challenges F9 which is partially reused, lol.
@ghostmantagshome-er6pb3 күн бұрын
Sloths play the long game.
@milleddtube87554 күн бұрын
NEUTRON
@varietyegg4 күн бұрын
I think that starship advantage to new glenn is that the whole ship is recoveryable and reduce the cost immeasurable because a second stage build won't be needed to be build
@CattyRayheart4 күн бұрын
Seadragon was an interesting reusable concept. Sadly it disn't go anywhere
@imaginary_friend73003 күн бұрын
It likely would never have worked. It made some flawed assumptions that the F1 program proved would never have worked. It was a paper idea but an interesting one.
@EagerSpace3 күн бұрын
I have two seadragon videos... It's a fun concept but it's really unlikely it would have worked.
@jasonneugebauer53104 күн бұрын
The space shuttle program destroyed NASA's ability to inovate and create better technology and instead turned into a way for established companies to cash in on the NASAs budget. The resulting government produced flight hardware is as desirable as hot garbage in your living space.
@jasonneugebauer53104 күн бұрын
Great video. Very good at illustrating the pros and cons of the different types of liquid rocket fuels.
@jasonneugebauer53104 күн бұрын
Excellent video. I am surprised I do not see other creators producing videos like this in my feed which is very unfortunate. It is not good to focus all hope on a single entity. Having several competing products is best. Can you imagine if we standardized all cars on the Ford model T. It was a great car that revolutionized transportation. But competition pushed technology to even higher achievement. It seems all the videos I watch have narrowed their coverage from all space vehicles and satellites to SpaceX, which is sad. I think it is crucial that there be many competitors in both the transportation to orbit/beond, and satellite/space habitat production and use, to assure sufficient competition, efficiency, and capability. SpaceX is doing well in showing us what is possible. But is by no means going to be the most efficient solution given sufficient real competition. Thanks for the great video.😊
@EagerSpace3 күн бұрын
I definitely want more competitors... The problem with videos like this is that they don't grab eyeballs the way that the more sensational ones do. I made a specific choice to do this sort of video because it plays into both my interests and strengths, but I'm weird. The only creator I know of who is a bit like me is Anthony Colangelo but his stuff is podcast format rather than presentation format.
@jasonneugebauer5310Сағат бұрын
@EagerSpace I definitely appreciate your superior coverage of the state of the world's space launch technology and capabilities! Thank you 😊
@somedude48054 күн бұрын
If you think this is even a contest, then I assume you have a personal beef with Elon Musk, because SpaceX is the obvious leader in reusable rockets.