To paraphrase Mark Fischer in Capitalist Realism, Alternative and Independent are not outside the mainstream but are the mainstream. and they have been for decades. Tell me if youve met a person that doesnt want to be independent or different, especially in the era of capitalist realism. I dont take issue with this video outside of that. . I can't abide anyone saying it isnt mainstream because the cultural cycle has Hauntology to rehash all cultural trends because new culture is not progressing fast enough for trends to do anything but repeat the past, "haunt" it. That was the effort of the Post-modernists. to Critique culture and I think it was Derrida who popularised the idea of Hauntology until Fischer expanded on it in "Ghosts of my Life" My only problem is that saying modern cultural trends arent mainstream is just a lack of education on their part. from not paying attention. All cultural products fall into a mainstream category because nothing new is being created fast enough for new culture to cement itself.

Gatekeeping isn't a binary black/white thing, newbies have to meet the existing culture halfway. It's not unreasonable for people who are actually living the lifestyle to be hostile to stereotypical "instagram tourists", but at the same time everyone was new once and there's no future in a scene that totally excludes new blood.

most of you are fakers from tiktok and thats what killed it

this earned you a subscribe

I hate how i come up to people who look goth and whne we talk about bands it becomes immediately clear they only dress up and know nothing about goth yet say yes when i ask "are you goth?" Then i try to tlak about bands but it gets awkward and i just stop talking abouf bands and music all together. From almost all the people ive aksed only 2 were actually goth or knew anyhting about goth past the main 5: bauhaus, siouxsie and the Banshees, the cure and sister of mercy. This sounds good but these people never go past knowing one song from each band or just knowing the band name. You arent goth if over the past 2 years those are the only goth bands you know. Also im from California and yes, theres a shit ton of people who dress edgy or alternative and know nothing of alternative music except emo rap or mgk and stuff... apart from this, ive seen this topic brought up a lot but its always by people who arent alternarive but spealjng from a perspective as an outsider which is nice but never that indept like this. Thnaks for saying ur opinion as an alternative person!!

My Problem is when I see other alt people and their Outfit combinations I think it's cool but when I layer Things myself it always feels wrong and I think it looks ugly😭😭 and the weather is also my Problem either it's way to hot or to cold

I think mod was definitely not the first alternative style, even in the 1950s (although it sounds like such a unrealistic stereotype) greasers were definitely a subculture compared to the norm and even back in the 19th century there were controversial alternative fashion fads such as tight lacing corsets and I’m sure it has happened somewhere even before then

I think alts have never been so unclassified

I’m so sorry this is the most 2020 video I’ve seen since 2020… AND IT WAS MADE IN EARLY 2020 ( love the video, this is my jam )

All of this is rather immature.

I just discovered your channel. Where’d you go😭😭

Putting in the eyelets BEFORE cutting is so smart! Wish I had seen that years ago! I use a leather punch tool for my eyelet and grommet holes. A lot of great ideas and cute shit. Thanks!💙🥰🙏

Accessories are SO IMPORTANT!! i make half my jewelry, lots of kandi bracelets, safety pin jewerly, etc.

ur hair looks so awesome here. i want this color too XD nice video

1:00 same 💀 Except I’m not moving anytime soon 😢

Also a good thing a knee high socks you can even roll them down if your parents do not like that but you should be good or try putting on your clothing and as soon as you’re out of the house layere some things over it you took with you like taking half of your outfit with you

Love the nails

"just go to your local hot topic" *closest hot topic to me is 7,576kms away*

i loved the first skirt you wore, its so pretty !

I’m an amalgamation of metalhead, rivethead, goth, steampunk and grunge. I have many interests

Pro tip: Stock up on spooky jewelry and tights and even makeup at the Halloween store. Cannibalize the ugly stuff they sell to make unique items for yourself.

Do thits also work for boys or masc presenting individuals?

I don’t think my parents would get mad, because my mom said she doesn’t have to like what I wear. I mean she has to like it to an extent but as long as I’m not wearing anything too revealing I won’t have any problem with my parents. My problem is testing the waters. Seeing how alt I can go before they tell me to change or take something off. Like I’m worried that they might tell me to take off my eyeliner if I try to wear it in front of them.

Currently i live with my strict ahh grandparents (due to family issues) and they're really strict christians, they dislike when i wear anything even slightly alternative or not "normal." I might be able to move in with my mom at some point, my mom had an emo or alt phase so I know she wouldn't care (plus we both are kinda emo), but i want to be able to at least have some form of alt fashion to express myself in my current home. thank you so much, Rayne! I'm gonna try these and hopefully my grandparents won't mind

Dang it, I guess I like watching style videos now

I like A lot of music including goth, punk and emo. I think I should identify as alternative because even with fashion I'm eclectic. Coz I see it as an umbrella term, one that could be used to describe someone like me who doesn't really fit into one subculture.

Watching in 2024 <3

I see so many “alt kids” nowadays that are legitimate bullies almost dressing like the ones they would have bullied had they been born several decades prior like wearing their victims skin. There are no subcultures anymore bc the internet killed all of them. Nothing is new and we’ve been stuck in a feedback loop since 2012

Have you steampunk fashion style?

Are you single gorgeous doll🤘💀😎😉🤘

That moment when all alt kids have strict parents

Do you have to take the pins out when washing the shirt?

The gate keep is crazy but I feel yiu

Damn like wtf are you hot rocker chicks at! Cant stand these normie harlots 😘 swear i got the worst luck with chicks😒😒😂

Lollol it's just MUSIC just so you idiots know it's funny people think this is all political I despise people like that not just me though everyone despises that. You are who you are carry yourself lik that and it speaks it doesn't matter what your into its not IMPORTANT. What's important is the values people have incomin you both could like the same music DRESS the same but still HATE one another if the core values aren't met , punk metal rock alt.... It really doesn't matter because you could have different genres talking about the same THING just in a different vibe and vice versa . Idgaf who or what you look like if you don't have my values I DESPISE YOU

Interesting , like listening to you talk🥰

if anybodys interested in piercings but cant afford it, too young, or not sure abt the pain u can fake a handful of them with piercing beads that u can buy offline OR cut off of a silverbeaded bracelet + lash glue !!

" I'm a fifty six year old virgin "

Where’s the green dress from?