you're right! sometimes our p1 kt was too fast and enhanced star wasnt up for mm, so i started saving it :P

my cards are on shift-1, E, and F. theyre not on a single button

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feather rain by nilla

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thank you kyle!

Yeah... Damage is the name of the game for pretty much every jobs. Unless they nerf healing across the board, Piety giving a buff to healing potency would be just as useless as it is now because healers already do more than enough heal with what they have now and damage increase would still be a lot better than healing increase

healing is solved. the only meaningful stat increase is DPS. when all healing is trivilized to oGCD healing outside of specific points in a fight, piety has virtually zero reason to exist outside of proggression. it's not a matter of doing gear min/maxing tradeoffs when you have the fight on farm, there's legitimately zero choices to make in terms of gear

its not that we necessarily want to do more damage, its just that piety right now is essentially a wasted stat. "just play a dps" is such a dumb reductive thing to say

My calcs indicate that it's more like 70-80, at the cost of somewhere around 2.5k hp. So... half a percent-ish of DPS for about 1-2% of your HP. Since you rarely if ever live on 1-2% of HP in any practical situation, half a percent is half a percent.

It's really not. You sacrifice so little by shaving a few ilvls off, you can still get past all the ilvl gates, and living on such a tiny sliver of HP that the lost ilvls matter is so rare it might as well be irrelevant. Also, BiS is faster to acquire than max ilvl, too, because it incorporates lower-level gear that isn't time gated. So not only is it *better* it also is *cheaper* overall, in a game where gearing multiple jobs per expansion is already a big ask.

That'd be crazy powerful in most harder content

...You do realize that nobody casts healing spells if they can help it, right? It's not even because of the MP cost, it's because you sacrifice DPS and make the DPS checks tighter on everyone else as a result. Buffing raise HP/MP also isn't useful outside of prog... where Piety already has a small niche... because outside of prog people generally don't die to get rezzed.

@@braxbro6674 yee, don't like the idea of having a "prog" gearset and a "regular" set The amount of gcd healing needed depends a lot on content (MINE and Ults luckily needs it sometimes), but that's a different discussion

@@kroporo3473 Right. If you want to fix Piety, you need to find something that healers care about in most cases, while also keeping that prog niche. I think the cost refund idea isn't bad, but putting it on just heals isn't terribly useful. Cheaper DPS could be interesting for spell speed users, and putting a lighter DPS buff on top, for cases where more mana isn't as useful.

I mean....did he clear? Because provided the healer does the work they need to, the actual healing quantity may be fine, an example is the people I play with have the Regen Healer do a bulk of the proper healing while the Shield Healer is there if A. There is a LOT of burst healing needed or B. The mit plan has the regen/shield healers alternate their cooldowns at certain points. But maybe the whole "They cleared the content so that's that" is just my take on things

This is a bad take. Don't gotta be god at healer with flawless healplan to recognize healers have been getting shafted. Besides, It doesn't seem like there was a serious attempt at optimizing anyways? I do think they're undervaluing piety, but they're not wrong. Once fights are figured out and the amount of healer gcds is optimized (especially in ult it seems), mp is hardly ever an issue. The downtime basically gives you all the time in the world to get mp back. I think the thing that raises my eyebrow is the implication that healers will deliberately prog FRU with 727 ilvl. That's crazy

@@SadTB2 Why is it a surprise people run 727 instead of 731? 727 has better substats to compensate for slightly worse base stats, it's quicker to farm, and in some cases can fit more materia melds thanks to crafted gear.

@@braxbro6674 for ultimate prog you want the HP. Dying to raidwides with very small overkill is unacceptable tbh. Especially when the cause of that is because you chose to run with 727

@@SadTB2 The difference is literally 2468 HP. If you don't properly mitigate, 2k HP will not save you in prog, let's be real. If you do properly mitigate, then the 2.4k HP won't matter. Losing 4 item levels is not a lot, especially when those item levels are on pieces that don't provide a majority of your defensive stats anyway. (btw, if the 727 set bothers you, there's also a 728 set that uses augmented crafted gear that brings the 2.4k disparity down to 1.8k, without sacrificing a notable amount of DPS; the disparity for my race/clan + job between BiS and 728 is +600 HP for -4.5 dps) The only reason you give a damn about piety in prog is to give you room for GCD heals and rezzes, since all healers by default are slightly MP-positive with zero spell speed as far as I know otherwise. But harder content doesn't always give room for GCD heals or rezzes anyway. Hell, even the current EX3 has a phase where if someone dies, the party wipes... because there's just no real way to rez them to salvage the situation. And... um... the lost piety equates to essentially a HQ Super-Ether. That's it. Sure, it clashes with a Mind potion, but if you REALLY care about the rez or GCD heals that much, surely sacrificing your DPS potion for it is fine. And ultimately? It doesn't matter. People can prog and clear with 731, and people can probably prog and clear with 727 or 728. Or they can early prog on 731 and swap to 727/728 for clear attempts. It's such a small difference that it's really up to personal preference...

Last I recall, in balance disc, the healers were annoyed about all the piety gear 💀

Yup, been saying this for a while now, and/or have it also increase your max mp.

@@noyou6216 Piety used to increase max mp; it's probably more likely for them to treat it as a healer version of Tenacity