BSD Berkley is POSIX,bind is made by posix , so broadcom,brocade,avago is nothing when BSD degrate the chip, nothing runs, simple,
@futuresystemsbvba7 ай бұрын
there is one topic you seem not to know, broadcom is depended on BSD this means that if you have the bsd chipset you have automaticly life time free esxii on custum iso off the machine and broadcom is not the company but avago is, due the ibm raid,broadcom vlan nic , but this is specific on the chipnumber, due the driver compiles in boot and gues which is here the company? Red Hat, so ibm bought red hat but get stuck due i have lifetime BSD member due my Borland history, so esxii boots in the bsd kernel, and then lawrence you pfsense and freebsd is BSD in company massive against broadcom,
@wm1pyro7 ай бұрын
they must not deal with the manufacture space. on prem everything, tape, it's all there
@clij52028 ай бұрын
Why people eat and chew in front of cameras … very impolite
@zaiden56609 ай бұрын
🎊 *Promosm*
@spl4t19 ай бұрын
Wish you would have covered the vcpp providers that got dropped in the change. VMware is forcing the providers under 3500 cores to forklift.
@hiddenyid42239 ай бұрын
Tom is KING
@daniellauck95659 ай бұрын
Guys, thanks a lot for sharing this.
@adroitspartan79079 ай бұрын
Nutanix is closed source - you gotta be stupid to make them a critical part of your infra stack. If you cant fork it f**k it.
@driver2889 ай бұрын
Hi! Coming from Hyoer-V going to VMWare because the company I ended up working for favored it I don’t understand the aversion to hyper-v that many hold. It’s a super easy system to manage. Azure runs on it. It’s proven tech. Also sure free hyper-v server is soon gone but you can for a home lab or for testing use 180 day trial versions of windows server 2022 with hyper-v or buy a retail key for server Datacenter and go. You can get one for $40. Then run unlimited number of windows guests on it. Sure there are some limitations when it comes to other OSs on Hyper-V but most SMBs run windows.
@Albertkallal9 ай бұрын
Actually, it not at all clear if the free Hyper-V is going away at all. The base windows server edition simply always included 2 extra free OS licenses, of which then you can run 2 extra vm's for free with Hyper-V. But on those systems, Hyper-V was free and included, it was the free 2 windows licenses you get. There NEVER was any cost or limits on the number of vm's you could or were allowed to run under Hyper-V. MS makes more money by giving away Hyper-V, since any windows OS you install into that vm has to be licensed...... Same goes for any windows edition above home edition - Hyper-V is free and is included in the OS. So, if you have a windows 10 or 11 laptop right now? you can turn on Hyper-V now for free, and it always been that way. (as noted, you need above home edition for this). One of the bonus points here is that with Hyper-V being part of any windows above home edition, then then all of our dev boxes and laptops running windows pro have and use Hyper-V. And that version of Hyper-V is the same version that the main (and rather expensive) main company server runs. So, we often work on a vm, setup a system for a few days or a week of work. Then that vm is handed over to IT folks for deployment on the production server. Since Hyper-V is included in windows, then you don't even have to download it - it in the windows features, and you just have to activate it. the support company we use was recommending and was pushing us to use VMware but all the devs had been using Hyper-V (because it free and already on their computers), then we asked if the new server could use Hyper-V. A bit of hesitance on the support company, but they said, ok, sure. Turns out that was the best decision, and it really comes down to a few extra servers here and there that we also run Hyper-V on, and that includes the developer server (not a vm) in which we can spool up any kind of vm we want. (we have a server 2016 2019, and a few Linux vm's on that developer server). However, the fact that we can just "use" Hyper-V on any of those boxes and not even have to download Hyper-V, or look for, or grab a license is what makes this whole thing all work well. So, adopting Hyper-V, learning Hyper-V? Really easy, but the free price, and ALSO that's it already on every computer I purchased for the last 10 years without extra cost is perhaps the best feature. So, Hyper-V is free, and creating vm's is free, but installing windows OS on those vm's is most certainly not free, and this explains why they give away Hyper-V --- to run lots and lots of paid windows vm's on those boxes. Microsoft makes WAY more money with this model because their core business is selling OS's, not trying to make money with Hyper-v. This is going the way of Novell - companies used to pay big dollars for a simple LAN - over time that LAN became free, and now it looks like bare metal hypervisors are also going to wind up being free......
@driver2889 ай бұрын
@@Albertkallal they were talking about Hyper-V server, a free download that in itself didn’t require a windows license to run. So if you wanted to deploy Linux VMs on it it was completely free. Not even costing the admission fee of windows pro. That is no longer maintained. The rest of your points stand and I agree. Hyper-V is no extra cost on top of windows and with a windows enterprise license you can run unlimited windows server standard VMs on top.
@Albertkallal9 ай бұрын
@@driver288 Thank you kindly for clearing that up.
@Mudflap11109 ай бұрын
Great job everyone. I'm an old fart too. I implemented probably the first virtual production environment here on the central coast.(2004 ish). It turned out to be ESX (which ran on RedHat at the time) only because Xen and Linux KVM) didn't support windows vm's. All of the work leading up to that was the result of me traching myself in my homelab. I've been a Linux KVM user for a long time now in the homelab and some companies. Currently about to jump onto the xcp-ng bandwagon because the majority of Linux KVM support comes out of RedHat and I'm not sure where their heading 😢 thanks to IBM
@saileshsankaren71719 ай бұрын
Anybody keeping an eye on distributed cloud solutions like azure stack HCI, google distributed edge?
@djphat17369 ай бұрын
This is one of those topics that I'm wondering if we should bring up to our elected officials. Like can this actually be legal? I think M&A is fine but, the outcome is supposed to better than the original situation. This is more extortion than anything else. Want to get rid of the free stuff. OK. Want to sell off pieces that aren't making money. OK. Want to raise the price of the core technology that is making money. OK, everyone does that. But, this is not within any reason. 10-15 even 25% increase would have been "acceptable". No one would like it. But, you really would have not want to move off of it. Because your have a lot of the products they make. They are WAY WAY past that as an increase. And that should be stopped.
@LostInThe0zone9 ай бұрын
Why wouldn't a company wring billions out of the market if they could?
@Tr1pke9 ай бұрын
Jeeeesus Eric Hanson was still in bed and Jackie Putman needs to upgrade his 56k modem ,Norm Legare couldn’t care less was always gone.
@polygambino9 ай бұрын
There are many companies in countries in which cloud solution are just not feasible as the infrastructure to connect doesn't give you the confidence to operate purely in the cloud.
@donaldwilliams68219 ай бұрын
Tom has many valid points on Proxmox vs. XCP-ng He talks about debian and the command line, but as some one who once managed XenServers dealing with the horrible XE CLI command is way worse then learning any linux CLI commads. Having on numerous occasions having to resort to XE to resolve issues IMHO that should be part of the discussion. Is PMX perfect ? No, too much time is needed at the CLI. especially with storage. Re: XCP-ng, but a 2TB limit on VHDs, why is that never mentioned by Tom? Also XCP-ng is dependent on open software too. Sorry but his technical opinion is tainted by his involvement in XCP-ng. IMHO if he was reselling VMware he would tell why the price increase is a "good thing" Better qualify, better support, more features,..... Having said that XCP-ng is a good product with a lot of features. The fact that the orchestra VM comes so limited out of the box is annoying! I do hope that BOTH do well now that VMware is leaving a market open for them.
@ickyendeavors41799 ай бұрын
One other note: I don't see on premise VM going away anytime soon, period. Too many clients I have are that way for obvious reasons: you have areas where the total bandwidth to the internet is less than 50Mb/s. There is no possible way they can support warehouse software, engineering software, and graphics design software on limited bandwidth at the same t ime, combined with a WiFi network for scan guns/etc. When we talk about the options available in the marketspace, we have to recognize how many markets in the US do not have the bandwidth required, but still have key needs where VM is crucial to their functionality.
@Jordan-hz1wr9 ай бұрын
Many places prefer capex to opex too. TCO is lower for on prem period. Any company that’s thinking ahead and isn’t a live fast/die fast company, should probably stay on prem for most workloads.
@ickyendeavors41799 ай бұрын
I came from VMWare, went to Hyper-V about 6/7 years ago. Now, Hyper-V exists inside of Server 2022, full installs; and DataCenter. The biggest benefit to Hyper-V is that importing from VMWare is -easy- and you manage to do so with little problems; meanwhile, I have had numerous issues trying to export from VMware to XCP-NG or Proxmox. That having been said, if clients are just starting, and they are a SMB below a set number of interactions/servers needed, I find it a lot easier to use ProxMox than Hyper-V for their overall standard in managing. I used to favor XCP-NG. However, After 8.x of ProxMox, getting some of the functionality handled is such that I couldn't replicate well in XCP-NG that I was in ProxMox. But you're still talking about a smaller market client. I understand where Tom is with XCP-NG, but it fits into a strange place for us; for our small business clients it's overkill, for people who need it, it doesn't provide enough of the core that they are after; in some cases, they find that either Datacenter Hyper-V or ProxMox with agents (I often use Acronis as an Acronis MSP) and we can get exactly what we want. As far as age.. please. I got my MS Certs under NT 3.5, my first networking was on Novell Token Ring (damn you, Coax and hunting for some open end or unsecured end). I love how many VMs that Tom is moving on his XCP-ng, and that's fantastic; most of our clients in engineering are running far fewer VMs, but we need immense amounts of resources and passthrough hardware or ML products for it. I think that is something we also don't talk about enough; and someone needs to spend more time, is looking at how MS has really completely changed the way their Terminal Services work and how that impacts VM environments. It's a pretty exciting time to look at what we're offering to clients, I think. I'd love to see a version of this that looked at what kind of remote monitoring/site agents we use.
@brianhayes28639 ай бұрын
Just saw my renewal quotes for vmware, going from Enterprise Plus to Foundation based on the features, and our last year renewal was $20K, this year $39K, it was basically a 50% increase. Expecting my CIO to tell me to find another solution. Doubling your customers prices is not how to do business and expect to do it going into the future.
@gizmobuddy8059 ай бұрын
The "we don't know what we don't know" comment resonates with a lot of engineers, right now. I've been using VMware since 08, when Telco companies started going virtual, and I don't have much exposure to anything else. We're all going to be kicking the tires of different hypervisors in the next couple of years to prepare for the mass corporate exodus.
@adamleinss9 ай бұрын
I like to call them the unknown unknowns, coined by Donald Rumsfeld
@suddengun0079 ай бұрын
Great discussion guys, im on an internal it team and we are going from VMWare to Azure and a mix of proxmox. Promox locally for location specific vm deployments, azure for our enterprise spanning services. Not sure how I feel about that direction though, Azure is going to be more expensive than I think the buisness is estimating. No more one off projects quickly deployed on a vm, instead its....how much is it going to cost to run a month lol. We'll see what happens.
@brucejamesj9 ай бұрын
Tom is not old. He's seasoned! 🙂
@pepeshopping9 ай бұрын
When you put ALL your eggs in one basket! When you trust greedy corporations and expect them to be “nice”. Used ESXi for 12+ years and was happy enough (wanted hourly snapshots), but last year, I saw/felt where things were going and decided to only use Open Source for all critical tasks. Took a deeper look and ended with KVM + ZFS and very happy with it and now I have hourly snapshots, plus last 2 days of actual vm clones ready to go, replication to other servers and can script it all. But you do need people that actually understand Linux, Networking, Software (incl coding/compiling) and yes, hardware too.
@Darkk69699 ай бұрын
Or they can use ProxMox as it's really KVM under the hood.
@sarkhori9 ай бұрын
I see this breaking into two or three types of clients: Large enterprise is too invested in VMware to move away, so they will stay. Mid/Large but under the "large enterprise" - Hyper-V is probably the way to go. They already own the DC licensing for their vSphere environments, and for base feature set (VMs, templates, HA, Load-Balancing, VM and Storage migration online, etc...) Hyper-V + System Center Virtual Machine Manager is equivalent to VMware. Below that level, I see a lot of companies going towards xcp-ng and proxmox.
@psycl0ptic9 ай бұрын
So many of these guys look like it's the first time they have been on camera.
@Bass-xv7rp9 ай бұрын
Nah, they're all smart enough to not have to care.
@daniellauck95659 ай бұрын
I thought the same. But they are all among know people and friends, and just don't care.
@psycl0ptic9 ай бұрын
WTF is up with Eric H?
@jayce832211 ай бұрын
Promo SM 😳
@mayinstitute9659 Жыл бұрын
SO AFTER LOOKING FOR MY MISSING DOG ALL DAY I OPEN UP YOUR WEDDING INVITATION AND WHAT DO I SEE MY MISSING DOG YOUR DOG YES AND I WANT HER BACK
@quoter Жыл бұрын
Thanks for having us Dan!
@tonyd6853 Жыл бұрын
This audio🤢
@MatthewStinar2 жыл бұрын
Whatching them deny, deflect, dismiss, and play the victim really spoke volumes.
@frackamaduk2 жыл бұрын
Wow Kaseya just wasted an hour of everyone's lives. Wish the partners on this call wouldn't have filtered their thoughts so much. Give it to them raw, Kaseya gave it to you raw for years, it's only fair to return the favor. This just shows me Kaseya is only going to get worse on a larger scale.
@frackamaduk2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else love how they keep reiterating "We're humans too!" and all you could think was "We're UNETHICAL PREDATORY humans too!"
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@therose71483 жыл бұрын
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@CaryWagner3 жыл бұрын
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Rob Rae!
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