I found what you're taking about. It's around the 16:10 mark. That's not really an attack at all. It's a reference to an errant preaching present in many churches, most notably in Houston. While I agree we shouldn't attack Christians, we should rebuke teachers (like Joel Osteen) who preach falsehoods. We also shouldn't attack non-Christians, but it's okay to correct their ideas.

It seems an odd way to judge someone's theology by whether or not they found a particular piece of media interesting, rather than how the theology that they are teaching measured up to scripture.

@@plasmatikification not odd at all. Simply a garbage in garbage out phenomenon. The Shack is garbage. Next he will be quoting the well known scholar Barbra Streisand. Like I said, dreadful.

@@danreich4320 Not everyone has the level of discernment if a five year old. Do you live in a culture where people have no ability to understand someone else's beliefs and differentiate it from their own beliefs?

I managed to study ancient Greek and Norse mythology and while it gave me a better understanding of what other people used to believe, it didn't lead me to become a pagan, let alone tempt me in that direction.

@@plasmatikification no

I think that's a great thought. I think there is a lot of truth in Job's friends' wisdom, but theirs is a misuse of God's Wisdom. For example, people often say "Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it. (Pro 22:6 NIV) - This is a promise that God will look after your children if you teach them well." Now there is wisdom there - yes, training your child is wise. But the statement is also dreadfully wrong, because it's a proverb, a rule of thumb, not a cast iron promise - and if you interpret it like a promise of how the world works, you're in for serious problems. I think Job's friends' poetry is like that - it's embedded in the wisdom of Proverbs (so, good) but it misinterprets the wisdom of Proverbs (so, bad). So as we read what Job's friends have to say, even though we know that ultimately they are wrong, we can still recognize the truth they get right, and importantly we can examine the ways in which we also may be misinterpreting and making false assumptions about God's truth/wisdom.

@@forrestcandy right, so it needs to be worked through, not dismissed.

@@JH.K True! To be fair though, this talk was super conflated. There is also a lot more to be said about behemoth and leviathan, which take up a substantial chunk, for instance. Walton certainly deals with the friends' speeches in great detail in his other material (eg. commentaries). But on reflection I think you are right in that it would be terrible for someone to get the impression that the friends speeches are just wrong and therefore not to be benefited from.

Tail like cider , yes its obvios , maybe carbon dating needs revision .

behemoth

" Wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction."

Abel Chavez that’s Gnosticism, very evil

Yes..he is the potter we are the clay.

The fundamental problem with this reading is Job says that he was wrong, and that he spoke about things that he didn't understand: "My had heard but now my eyes have seen." So you can't know what Job spoke right about without understanding the difference between what he heard vs who he saw; nor can you understand what he got wrong. Everything in Job isn't right, This is characteristic of the Wisdom Literature: 1D readings fail to get the point because the books are written partially for that purpose. The point of the Wisdom Theology (this also appears in Ecclesiastes and Song of Songs and at the beginning of Proverbs) is that personal knowledge of YHWH is what resolves these God-view questions because such knowledge comes through his Spirit (who gives wisdom and thus discernment). As Paul says: "Who has known the mind of God, but we have the mind of Christ." Without the God-view that comes from the Holy Spirit of YHWH you're stuck trying to reach answer God-view questions via a limited temporal perspective and will always miss the point. Your answers will always be a result of slavery to biochemistry. (The language of YHWH appearing to Job in a whirlwind is in fact the language of the merkabah revelation, by which people were commissioned as prophets, and after which a revelation usually follows. Ergo, Job being taken on a tour of Creation from beginning to end. And at the end there is the defeat of wickedness (represented by the tanninim Leviathin and Behomoth).

@@blanktrigger8863 thanks for the clarification!

How does this have any impact on what the book is trying to communicate?

Leviathan are large sea serpents.

Nope also wrong. Leviathan is Leviathan. Behemoth is Behemoth. God removed the traces of their existence from the world to keep us uncertain. Were they here, Gods grand plan couldn't work. Because things like evolution couldn't hold up to scrutiny. This world, by design, brings uncertainty and doubt.

I hoped to watch a critical review. Like Chesterton gave

Theist propaganda on a sermon on Job? You'd be pretty biased to expect anything else.