Never swing into a slam with venom. And melee while attacking on close enemies. Everyone is always wasting his potential. There's so many things ppl don't do with venom that make him great Edit: try using his ult on other tanks (mainly when they are full hp, as his ult always halves the hp of whoever was hit). Especially when they stack. Gives u incredible HP and u can easily push them both back by yourself. I've ranked up so fast using venom it's insane and no one seems to use him effectively
@smakyOG2 күн бұрын
@@Kiryu-_- I completely forgot about his melee since it fits perfectly within the primary fire window that it just makes sense to mix in for even more damage potential
@dendottaYT4 күн бұрын
good boyyyy
@smakyOG4 күн бұрын
@@dendottaYT 😐
@bojack20114 күн бұрын
None of these characters are clones. You're weird.
@dendottaYT6 күн бұрын
I agree w all of your picks. I’d probably say Punisher is a good entry level dps as well just because his kit is super basic. If you have good aim, you’ll be able to shred especially if he’s pocketed by a Rocket
@smakyOG6 күн бұрын
@@dendottaYT in terms of entry level basic kit, I genuinely think Hela is better. She’s easier to hit shots, and has easy escape mechanics and supporting abilities. If you’re good at aiming that’s all you gotta do, even if you don’t understand how her kit works.
@liahfox58409 күн бұрын
I want Mystique, Juggernaut, and Quick Silver added!
@LarryMazz9 күн бұрын
I think this is a problem far down the road, until they get every major character they want in the game
@smakyOG9 күн бұрын
@@LarryMazz yeah they definitely not boutta be worried about this anytime soon
@liahfox58409 күн бұрын
It would've been just as successful, as Marvel, if it was created by the same developer with the same amount of love. The game could work with any huge IP. Star Wars, Dragonballz, etc. Marvel Rivals is a great game, because it's not woke, and extremely well-polished. These eastern developers have exposed western fascism & corruption in embarrassing fashion! The west has willfully created garbage.
@yeahimethan596810 күн бұрын
clones seem less fun than having the individual characters available and knowing that there are several version of THAT character despite being similar to another. theres a lot of skins and comic book characters they can grab but i feel like skin clones would just make it more annoying to play the characters you actually want individually rather than not being able to be iron man cuz your team mate is war machine or you dont have enough units to purchase war machine alt skin for iron man
@smakyOG10 күн бұрын
@@yeahimethan5968 yeah, I hope they do adapt more characters as playable rather than skins just because it would be fun to play them, but I think it’s guaranteed we’d at least get skins for them all
@SwiftDeath060810 күн бұрын
I don’t care what they do, I NEED Beta Ray Bill in Rivals
@robmiester10 күн бұрын
The main problem with a skin for a character to impose as a different hero would mean that hero could never he added as an individual character
@justinnguyen390610 күн бұрын
it would be funny if they did do that, so then wed have a miles morales with spiderman skin, and a spiderman with a miles morales skin
@oscarortiz152910 күн бұрын
Agent Venom, War Machine, and Miles Morales can totally be different characters (especially Carnage). I would picture clone/reskinned characters as Lady Thor, She-Hulk, Red Hulk, Kate Bishop, Ironheart, and Beta Ray Bill.
@joselazo979910 күн бұрын
They have so many characters to pick from I don't think they worried about making "clones" at the moment. If they give us some new voice lines with a skin that makes that character someone different but still the "same", I'm sure the fans will be happy.
@eddie230310 күн бұрын
The problem is that there are so many characters that it feels unfair if we get clones as a hero before someone unique and different, so I feel skins is a better way to keep adding fresh new heroes
@Kraz3e98710 күн бұрын
Id rather see more classic characters before seeing multiverse variants, another spider or venom? Nah id rather see some one like Green Goblin or Doc Ock first, what about Whiplash or Mandarin before another Iron Man? Or Abomination before another Hulk?
@smakyOG10 күн бұрын
@@Kraz3e987 yes I agree, those characters definitely should be in the game before any of these “clones” get added, we need more diversity and honestly more villains which we haven’t seen much of
@rebugall172710 күн бұрын
bro said spiderman started the multiverse in marvel 😭😭😭😭
@moondough601010 күн бұрын
Agreed we need more villains, and a red hulk would be sick!!
@Glandorray10 күн бұрын
Miles has his bioelectricity Make him a Strategist spider-person!
@Daredevller10 күн бұрын
I think the Agent Venom skin is more of inspiration. But having Miles Morales’ suit, is a different conversation
@oscarortiz152910 күн бұрын
Agent Venom can totally fit as his own character since he'd be more of a mix of spiderman and punisher (which sounds cool). However if he is to just be a skin then I'd argue it would ironically fit spiderman more due to his body size.
@Daredevller10 күн бұрын
@ exactly, the fact that’s it’s on venom is why I say it looks more like inspiration
@jav-y6q10 күн бұрын
That intro gotta go😂
@smakyOG10 күн бұрын
@@jav-y6q why 😭
@jav-y6q10 күн бұрын
@ lil bit dated it gives me halo KZbinr from 2012
@snarfbomber29810 күн бұрын
There are so many characters to get in and so much to balance in the game already. I think people should be happy to get some of these side characters villains as skins
@smakyOG10 күн бұрын
@@snarfbomber298 I wouldn’t mind them being skins, I just hope that characters that truly deserve to be characters don’t end up being skins because of some similarities
@everythinggamezz10 күн бұрын
Good video homie, great interaction too
@smakyOG10 күн бұрын
@@everythinggamezz Preciate you 🫶🏽
@eicha4162410 күн бұрын
Miles could definitely be his own distinct character, and should. His invisibility, his venom strike, he can be a great assassin duelist. If they make Ghost Spider/Gwen she could be a support, making web barriers and traps to slow enemies or nerf their damage, as well as some way to heal
@oscarortiz152910 күн бұрын
My worry with Miles is that his kit can be overpowered. Just think how much more dangerous spiderman can be if he can go invisible. You'd literally have no chance of catching him
@eicha4162410 күн бұрын
@oscarortiz1529 oh for sure. Like a Psylocke that can web swing. He would have to have a kit different enough from Spidey to be appealing and not busted
@thatghostyboi980110 күн бұрын
I mean we’ve already had skins of completely different characters. The Scarlet Spider skin for spiderman is actually Kaine Parker, and while yeah hes a clone of peter he is a VERY different character and personality from him, so it would’ve made sense for him to have different voice lines from him but he doesnt. Same thing with the mayker and malice skins
@izzux212110 күн бұрын
OFc they will be skins with different voicelines , there are SO many different marvel characters , they dont need to make miles morales a different character than peter parker is .. both are spiderman just look different ( the skillset difference is not that big that it needs to be a seperate new character ... )
@thesilverbeast609210 күн бұрын
Miles could definitely be his own character since he has the venom shock powers.
@swarmX10 күн бұрын
agent venom and space knight venom were both flash thompson in the comics, not eddie brock. but the venom IN marvel rivals is eddie brock. so its likely someone like war machine could be just a skin.
@jaycub471110 күн бұрын
This is something I thought of as well. In the future they will want to add more characters for sure.
@GranDOise-vb5xo10 күн бұрын
Maybe they'll integrate the Anti-Venom symbiote into Agent Venom which would make him a Strategist instead of a Duelist since he was Agent Anti-Venom and could heal people in the comics; as for the other symbiotes: Knull could be a Vanguard, Dylan Brock's a Strategist and Carnage & Scream (current alias is "Silence") would be good Duelist.
@terryglover644210 күн бұрын
I mean miles has bio electric powers, and war machine is ironman but more guns, watching a namor highlight reel is like watch balloon tower defense games lol
@smakyOG10 күн бұрын
@@terryglover6442 auto aim turrets is cheat codes 😅
@terryglover644210 күн бұрын
@smakyOG haha it's so fun tho
@Trepppy10 күн бұрын
Aw agent venom being a skin is kinda disapointing, would have been cool having Flash be a separate character
@smakyOG10 күн бұрын
@@Trepppy that’s what I was hoping as well, but some of the comments are saying anti agent venom would be a better fitting character whether that be a duelist or strategist is up for debate, but yes I wanted Flash Thompson to be separate too
@no.1spidey-fan18211 күн бұрын
Tbh I don't wanna see clones UNTIL they get to EVERY MAJOR character who IS NOT a clone😂
@jaycub471110 күн бұрын
Totally agree.
@c1ro70210 күн бұрын
I think Miles and war machine deserve to be in the game soon just cuz there pretty much there own characters now
@ajsx410 күн бұрын
I don’t think we need any more Web slingers
@c1ro70210 күн бұрын
@@ajsx4 ummm yea we do we only have 2 so far
@no.1spidey-fan18211 күн бұрын
Flash Thompson Agent Venom can actually still be added to the game as Anti Agent Venom Flash is MUCH different than Eddie as a host Toxin will most likely be a host The life foundation symbiotes could be made into Hybrid since he's basically all them them besides Scream. And they can just give him a skin for each one😂 Carnage can be his own thing and so can the new one Sleeper who can make gasses and be classes as a Strategist
@sleeperdanny526811 күн бұрын
Really interesting video honestly
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@sleeperdanny5268 thank you!
@joshdoshmosh11 күн бұрын
Warmachine could def be his own character, I mean just look at him, Vanguard material
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@joshdoshmosh we need more vanguards!!!
@shawnpolluch351011 күн бұрын
I could see lots of ways to make miles and Spider-Man different. You could have miles shoot a web ball that knocks people back if they collide with terrain they are stuck/stunned with a web. Also miles has the whole bio electric thing. Where Spider-Man is a swinging dps miles could be a trap support/dos hybrid. Not trying to get picks but stunning and laying web patches that slow people.
@12adwhetsel10 күн бұрын
In the comics, Miles has an electric sword and he can also turn invisible. I'd love to see him Rivals with those two mechanics.
@gamerdadcoco11 күн бұрын
Easy decision, skins.
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@gamerdadcoco 😂😂😂
@CrazyFaceChico11 күн бұрын
You can easily change the roles and abilities. If Sue in this universe can heal with her force fields. Who’s to say Miles Morales can’t heal with his bio-electricity. At least then a spider character will be on each role. Give him two swings or even 3 for more escape potential as a support. Less damage on his punch and webs. Then Miles’ ultimate can be his big electric discharge from the game healing allies and/or giving over health, and damaging/slowing enemies. Also he can have an invisibility skill on cooldown like Psylocke which makes sense since he’s a support and needs abilities for escape. His power set is far too different to be a Peter clone. You could even give him a pull like Spiderman but his can be used on allies (works somewhat with lifeweaver on OW)
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@CrazyFaceChico I like the lifeweaver pull mechanic being adapted for Miles
@nazqa404910 күн бұрын
Spider-man's punches, 2 swings, invis like psylocke, his web tracer I feel should stun enemies and heal teammates, and he should get his Venom dash punch thing like in spider-man 2. Your idea for his ult sounds pretty rad and honestly i don't see how else they could spin it
@Yami_Mclovin11 күн бұрын
The symbiote conversation is a bit wild bro, they all have different abilities. Fair enough with certain strains of venom, like anti venom, anti carnage, superior venom ect ect all can be skins because his abilities for each version don't really change he just gets stronger. But for screech, toxin, carnage, cant remember the rest off the top of my head, have their own distinct powers edit: obviously hulk versions would just be reskins, same with venom his abilities dont really change he just gains power level. Gwen stacy is an anomaly, she has to show up at somepoint, she has her own version of every character 😂 I believe you're thinking too narrowly, at the end of the day most of what they will add will be different to what we have currently. Its way too soon to be thinking about clones when we have practically unlimited roster of characters to pull from
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@Yami_Mclovin yeah they’re definitely adding all of the unique characters beforehand, this conversation is too early, but seeing the agent venom leak made me think about this because I would have assumed he was different enough to be a character rather than a skin, maybe a duelist instead of a vanguard. I did generalize a lot of it, like the symbiotes, and overlooked the different ones, but there’s a lot of time before they would be added and it makes more sense for them to be characters as compared to agent venom as a skin.
@cameroncarter974511 күн бұрын
I’ve been thinking war machine should be a vanguard iron man with more focus on sheer damage output and maybe spawn some team shields or bubble shield for defense whilst iron heart could be a strategist and do healing strafing runs if need be
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@cameroncarter9745 I completely forgot to mention iron heart, that would also be a nice team up to see between those 3 if iron man is on your team, and they’re all different enough for them to be separate characters
@professermarkyboy10 күн бұрын
I would consider rescue and not iron heart
@oscarortiz152910 күн бұрын
@@professermarkyboy agreed. Rescue fits as a strategist more since she's more defensive based in the comics. Ironheart can be a reskinned Ironman
@felipefroehnerteixeira477711 күн бұрын
I really wish they put miles as a suport but tbh i hope they put him latter in the games life cause if whe are just getting more of the same kind of character like venom and SM instead of a new guy like gambit or ultron id be pretty dissapointed
@CrazyFaceChico11 күн бұрын
I imagine this first year will be introducing more popular and diverse characters. This S1 is fantastic 4 and based on leaks S2 we are getting a lot of X-men/mutants
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@felipefroehnerteixeira4777 I think they’ll focus on unique characters before going the clone route
@felipefroehnerteixeira477711 күн бұрын
@@smakyOG i do hope so but i hope they dont use those characters to make skins just yet
@KroVey11 күн бұрын
For me it's not a matter of how similar their powers are or not. Marvel has thousands of characters and hundreds of them are fan favourites. Miles Morales for example is an awesome character and yeah, his powers are different to Peter Parker's Spiderman. But In a way, they are similar in terms of how the character would look and play. It would take up a spot from a character who would have brought something unique to the game. Same goes for Carnage and Venom etc. Carnage has different powers to venom but, at the end of the day, they are both big symbiote dudes. Not to say it's impossible to make Miles or Carnage work. I'm just saying they should prioritize characters who bring new playstyles and ideas to the game. Down the line, as years go by, I wouldnt mind seeing similar characters or twists to pre-existing characters.
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@KroVey that makes sense to just make sure all the unique hero’s are introduced before focusing on clones
@neavetheartist11 күн бұрын
No I feel like they should keep them all as skins. If they can focus their attention on all the unique characters (especially ones we don’t see in game format often) I believe that would be the best option. As in, why focus on a punisher/ironman hybrid character when you can add some totally different (at least visually) and creative one like Baron Zemo or Mysterio, you know?
@neavetheartist11 күн бұрын
Great video by the way 👍
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@neavetheartist thank you, I appreciate that, and the way things are looking is that they’re going to introduce virtually every hero they can, but some of them work too similarly to each other so would that be worth it
@darkeye118611 күн бұрын
Can be very similar with animations but play under different roles so they can have variety and can still team up. Think smash bros echo characters with a twist.
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@darkeye1186 if they gave echo characters with some difference that would be better than a skin for me
@HighNoonTex11 күн бұрын
I reckon they should introduce Legendary Skins, which has different voicelines, possibly different animations. This will serve as a way for them to introduce a bunch of fan favourites quicker. Some of my picks would be: • Thor - Beta Ray Bill • Hulk - Abomination or Red Hulk • Moon Knight - Hunter's Moon • Iron Fist - Danny Rand
@thatsplinter11 күн бұрын
There's already legendary skins in the game. These would have to be named Mythic or something.
@HighNoonTex11 күн бұрын
@thatsplinter Oh, my bad. Yeah, something like that could work then
@thatsplinter11 күн бұрын
@@HighNoonTex I definitely agree tho, that's a great idea.
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@HighNoonTex valid idea for a new level of skins to unlock these interactions
@ambushwastaken711811 күн бұрын
i think carnage can be a separate playable toxin and the many many other symbiotes would be skins just hear me out a team up with venom i think that would be badass
@salmansiam991711 күн бұрын
Imo the only time it should be a different character if u can change the role of it. If one character is a dps, other similar character should be tank, or healer. The roles & characters should be fundamentally different enough to play differently.
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@salmansiam9917 that actually makes sense, so I get why making Carnage is a fan favorite for DPS rather than making him a tank
@WhatWasThat22511 күн бұрын
Miles could be a strategist (his lightning could heal and his invisibility is a very strategist thing to do) War Machine could be a tank (more grounded version of Iron Man with a mini gun instead of repulsor blasts and either less or no flight) Carnage would be dps She-Hulk could also be dps, I guess?
@Yami_Mclovin11 күн бұрын
depends on their abilities though. Like the difference between miles and peter is pretty tremendous, it'd be weird to have miles as a character skin. But venom - agent venom... cmon 😂
@no.1spidey-fan18211 күн бұрын
@@Yami_Mclovin Agent Venom was actually VERY different from Base Venom tbvh😂. He's like Punisher, Spider-Man and Hulk mixed into one. He also had the ability to stretch his suit to change technology AND split pieces of his symbiote to form his own little hive like he did with Mania There's a reaspn Flash Thompson is considered the BEST host. He isnt just vemom 2.0😂
@vhadianv11 күн бұрын
Honestly if they add enough characters it wouldn’t really matter, but as adding the characters in an ordered format would be more likely.
@rhett318511 күн бұрын
Characters that are diverse enough in power set and importantly build such as War Machine compared to Iron Man should be diff characters, but for Miles Morales hes so similar in power set and build to Peter Parker that they should just have him be a unique skin with unique effects maybe (like if you finish an enemy with a punch, it’s an electric venom punch). I’m pretty sure The Maker (an Ultimate version of Reed Richards) is just a skin of Mr Fantastic too, despite being so different in character, but similar in build and power set.
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@rhett3185 entirely agree with you
@user-nu2gk2sr2z11 күн бұрын
I like the idea that two players can play basically the same character though. So you and your buddy can be spider-man
@asher753511 күн бұрын
at first i thought miles would make a better skin than character but actually thinking about it, his electricity and invisibility could be worked into a strategist moveset where you have peni as a tank and spidey as dps
@mrphantom13211 күн бұрын
I prefer when you speak
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@mrphantom132 thank you phantom, I’ll make more videos speaking I always appreciate your input
@dendottaYT8 күн бұрын
Me too
@TheShootingstarhero11 күн бұрын
I can see myles being a skin. But I can see carnage being his own character as a dps.
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@TheShootingstarhero I am unfamiliar with how Carnage would play, and out of all the symbioses he has the biggest chance of being a character, but we already got two characters made into skins for Venom being Anti-Venom and Agent Venom
@TheShootingstarhero11 күн бұрын
@smakyOG carnage in most games uses his body to make weapons like axes and ect. Pretty sure swinging would still be part of his kit.
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@TheShootingstarhero ahhh so a melee based DPS symbiote, interesting
@Eramidas11 күн бұрын
@@smakyOG Anti Venom being a skin instead of a strategist is such BS
@CrazyFaceChico11 күн бұрын
His power set is so different. Invisibility and bio electricity. The only thing they have in common is web swinging and wall crawling. But Venom and penny have that as well… Miles has more than enough powers that Peter doesn’t, to warrant being a separate character
@RxOxPx11 күн бұрын
You are most definitely highly mistaking with the whole multiverse and Spiderman starting it thing. I'm assuming off that alone you in your early 20s at the most.
@smakyOG11 күн бұрын
@@RxOxPx the only reason I said that is cuz growing up I remember the shattered dimensions game which is tied around the multiverse, then there was the ultimate Spider-Man which lead into the web warriors show, in my eyes Spider-Man is the most iconic character to bring up multiverses for, the comics are different and I’m more in tune with DC than Marvel, so idk who really started it in Marvel, MCU yeah there’s the recency with Miles and no way home, but that’s not what I was referring to
@no.1spidey-fan18211 күн бұрын
@@smakyOG Spiderverse actually first started in the 90s show and then 2099 got made and then Ultimate and Noire so it expanded