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I would not recommend to b-stall the glider in an autorotation - can make the situation worse

Oof

A full stall for a pilot that went into auto rotation SAT and did seemingly nothing to stop that? Sounds like a recipe for disaster... I'm surprised the pilot got out of that situation, it looked random

He solved the situation terribly. Basically the situation solved itself, he was lucky he had a lot of altitude. No control over the auto-rotation, no checking the reserve, no control over pitch and roll, flying to the middle of a massive cloud. Flying in conditions too strong for skill level was the first mistake. A simple thing to do in this situation is to stop the auto-rotation first by flying the non collapsed side. He did not use the left brake at all.

​@@TheGrundiggHmm.. but, he's rotating towards the flying side, the outside wing is largely cravated. He must have been fairly heavily transferring weight to the open side for it to rotate, away from the collapsed side. ( Surely... always aiming to learn, never assuming I have it right.) This is not a typical rotation. Typical is to the collapsed, high drag side. If I have it right, it's held in, through pilot input, so not auto. I think the pilot had moved to a spiral dive strategy, maybe. It worked well. Not excessive G. If you watch when the point where the first cravat was cleared, 3.10 it was rapid, by a sharp brake input on the highly pressured flying side.

@@billbankes-jones6034 In both spirals he's rotating towards the collapsed side, not sure what video you were watching? He's not pulling any brake on the flying side but instead trying to pull the stabilo on the cravatted side, which is what you want to do AFTER you stop the rotation.

@Edos222 ah yes, I can see autorotation, therefore outside tip is low. Generous of the chap to post. Posts without compassion are very disappointing to me.

If you ask this question, you should not be flying this EN-C certified high performance glider in strong thermal activity. There are beginner gliders like EN-A or Beginner orientated low EN-B gliders (they do not require much pilot action during such situation - hands up is a enough). Other thing don't get so close to the cloud. And if you did - don't panic, keep flying straight until you get off the cloud (mechanical or electronic compass is very useful instrument here). other mistake pilot did : he let the brakes off the hands while flying highly engaged speed-bar. The EN-C certified gliders requires action after collapses at speed-bar and he had no brakes in his hands (likely due to panic). So a lot of mistakes done by a pilot in this video.

If you don't know what to do, don't fly. This kind of situations require high pilot skills and siv training. At least you should know how to stall your glider and fast decent techniques. By the way you should know these things even you're a paramotor pilot. It can save your life one day. Have fun and save flights

@@YalvacliDelikurt Thank you for the information. I appreciate it

@@liotcik The information you provided here, is very helpful to me. Thank you

@@Swapnilthakkar4755 Some of these answers seem to be answering questions that weren't asked... Bit strange. As you climb towards cloud base, start looking to intersect the edge of cloud early before you get to base (on the side you want to leave on your next glide) The lift aria can be massive so there is no need to stay anywhere near the center, the whole underside is likely to be lifting. If you go a bit early, you will fall out of the lift but often it's a simple case of turning back and entering the massive lift aria again. If you mess up and are going to get sucked in, deep spiral fly straight, deep spiral fly straight until you escape... It's not fun but be patient. A deep spiral is pretty stable so if you get sucked in, you are reasonably safe entering a spiral inside cloud and watch your vario so you know you are winning... Enter the spiral progressively because without visual reference and with the panic, it would be easy to overcook it and drop into a SAT. Once you are pulling a couple of G,s, its almost impossible to enter the SAT or spin the glider so you can continue to pull in deeper until your vario is giving you some good news and you are losing height.

No he doesn't know how to do it. 🤣

No need for full stall on an EN-A If you stop the auto rotation the cravate should be easy to clear.

@@TheGrundigg jupp, stalling a glider in rotation ist not recommendet 🙂 - simpel counterstearing! Then clearing

Fair weather clouds, they weren't that big.

​@@pimplequeen2yeah. My habit, after a good study of the forecast... look at the nearby cloud tops. No guarantee obvs. This was probably a good time to use the 45° triangle rule.

You could be under the one that's the first to break the inversion, that I can see.

I've seen them tumble in air like that and spit out wing ribs.

Under this big cloud he was lucky that his wing wasn‘t a wing anymore. Not sure how you would get away from the cloud with a hang glider. But I guess you just would fly out of it, as you have more speed. With a paraglider we often just can get down as quick as possible. Even though I would always avoid to fly under such big dark clouds I must congratulate the pilot to get out of the situation and use the big cravat with spiral to get down. Mixture of luck, skill and a calm head. 👍

Hang gliders can spin and stall and tumble just as badly as paragliders. In the video everything that happened was pilot error, the wings are designed to fly well if used properly.

Nö Skill, Just luck

Totally agree.

Found it a bit weird that he didn't pull the left brake all that time in the autorotation. Time to think was enough...

@@LukeSchneider he got frozen from panic. And he didn't have the skills to do so.

I think I was afraid if I over reacted I might get more out of shape or maybe wrapped up. If I was you I might have just pulled some left brake, hooked back in to the climb and gone for a distance record…maybe.

@@tobybott hi.don't get me wrong, I'm just preparing for a paragliding course, and I have an old EN-C and en-d glider and my distance record is about one kilometer :)). Ive never been in a situation like this And never higher than 100 meters and never did even 360 turn:). Just want to keep IT Safe after course. Your glider Is EN-c? I ll shit myself in situation like this! All i know Is a theory. I was just corious why Its So hard to exit,but fear Plays a Big role in IT thats for sure.and this makes me sure i wanna know how to exit a spiral/sat and how to stall a glider because of cravate at the really first stage off my flying. Thx for sharing a video And your answer! Have a nice day And Flights.

@@milanmilan7879 Sorry my reply was defensive. Stay clear of a C glider until you’ve flown a while.

did you check the g-meter as well before making a comment about "lucky not to pass out".........?

it's a shame to through your reserve this high when you have all the time in the world to try and fix your wing.

@@TitusIV yea, I get that now that I have a little more experience. But I don’t see any shame in throwing your reserve if you know you don’t have the skills to recover from the situation. I had launched with a tension knot, a really bad tension knot, a few months ago and thought about throwing, but I still had some control of my wing, I couldn’t turn left without stalling the glider, but I could go straight and turn right, so I took a controlled 3 to 1 glide to a tree “landing” was better than throwing and having no control where I ended up.

Throwing your reserve at 10000 feet in cloud suck would be a very very last strategy. He had 9500 feet to to sort his shit out.

It would be dangerous to throw a reserve at that altitude in the middle of a SAT... At the very least stop the rotation and then throw it... Better yet stop the rotation and glide down for a while before throwing it... May as well try to clear the cravat while you're gliding down... But if just stopping the rotation is unknown to you, then a siv is your main priority

Please read the comments.

😅😅😅 He has actually lack of knowledge, training and experience. He could have been death. He can count himself as a very lucky basterd🤣

Giulio: do you hold a paragliding license and do you fly on a regular base in thermal conditions ?

@@danizweifler6061 Yes I'm an xc pilot

@@GiulioRavenna in that case, I would not wanna fly tandem with you as a passenger (by the way: I started paragliding in 1988.................)

T Hey Patrick, Thanks for your comments. Not a competition but free flying with a group. There's something pretty special about flying at the height of the clouds. See you up there some time.

@@tobybott I look forward to it my friend 👍🏼

And lucky! Thanks.

Not at all 😂

albertobarpao I was wondering that. Is it okay to stall when you have a big cravat like that? Then the cravat will probably come out?

@@Yourbosskid Yes of course, its much easier to come out of a stall than an autorotation. Controlled stalls are the way to reset the glider when things go bad.

Hey albertobarpao, The rotation wasn't really near uncontrollable, it was just uncontrolled. This dude didn't know any better than trying to pull the cravat out with his stabilo before anything else. T

Thanks for your comment, It is a C wing and I didn't have many hours on that class. The air was not particularly turbulent and the situation could have been managed much better. Colapse could have been prevented with active input and rotation stopped or slowed before focussing on the cravat. In my favour I stayed calm as situation could have got worse with panic inputs. An experience!

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you sir. Are funny!

I hear ya! But as a paraglider, watching the hangies come into land going head first at mach chicken scares the hell outta me!

@@seriallyscott 💪😋 mach chicken 🐔🤣

@@seriallyscott and the launch. Eff the launch is committed man.