Thank you for the information, I didn’t realize that wasn’t allowed at X and National matches. I have one of the cheap talking timers but it’s one more thing to get ready and I just figured it’s easier to ask. Thanks again!

@@22LRPhantom No prob. I would hate for a shooter of your ability to get thrown by something so basic at a large match. There's some discussion about it among the NRL MDs, I wouldn't be surprised if asking for time is disallowed at monthly matches next year for everyone but new shooters and juniors. On the other hand, PRS is really cracking down on coaching but they still allow you to ask for time (depending on the match). I hate asking for time now because there is a delay for the person to check the timer, then tell you the time. Feels like an eternity when you are on the clock. A lot of matches are using shot timers, it's difficult to tell someone the time unless they are running a separate timer as well as the shot timer.

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

You’re the best!

Thank you! The time was really tight on most stages for sure this month. A lot of 12 round stages with a number of hard shots to make, and for some reason the first stage had some wind that didn’t seem to make a lot of sense and that took a few moments to figure out as well. At least the 10 round stages went quick but there were only two of those this month. Good luck this month, I can’t wait to see your video of the match!

@@22LRPhantom my video is in the “edit bay” now. This was definitely a match where I had some challenges half way through. We definitely had some swirling winds and the last 2 NRL stages. I dropped 10 total on those two. 😬 still placed among the top shooters. We have such a highly competitive open division where the top ten shooters are almost always an impact or timed stage hundredths of points separated in the results.

@@gnroll1 Sorry to hear about the swirling wind this month, sounds like it was pretty crazy. Looking forward to seeing your video, I just caught your tank trap short and you nailed it-that was a super tricky stage.

Yeah, the wind was a little crazy on that side of the range. I was fortunate when I got to the tank trap the wind died for a few minutes.

also I can't get over how rock solid you were on that tank trap! that wasn't an easy stage by any means and you drilled it!!

Thanks Austin!

That was a crazy stage, the small target was tiny. I was pretty pumped when I cleaned it.

The suckers were at 100 yards.

These matches are a ton of fun, hopefully you can find a way to do both NRL22 and USPSA!

Thank you! The hostage stage was a lot of fun, sorry you missed out this month. I have another stage planned for the October match that I hope is just as fun. That Sand Castle bag is awesome, I felt super stable on all the props, thanks for making it!

Thanks Mark. Yeah, some of those hostages took a beating this month but all part of the fun. I’m looking forward to seeing the variations you come up with for these poor hostages!

Thanks Chip! It was great your daughter could come to this last match and the new yellow cerakote on your rifle looks awesome. Fun as always to shoot with you!

@@22LRPhantom Looks like I am going to miss the September match, the ECCL match is the same weekend as the Guardian Long Range match so see ya in October!!

@@chipherrick5121 Good luck! See you in October!

Steal away, that stage was a lot of fun to shoot and everyone seemed to enjoy it even if a hostage or two was hit. I hope everyone at your club has as much fun as we did. Can’t wait to see your video and the challenge stage you made! Good luck!

Haha, yeah I knew three prone positions would be tough but I was hoping I could make it work. If I could do it over I wouldn’t go prone on the middle target.

@@22LRPhantom I'm fairly slow, I'm not planning to go prone at all. I mean, 2.25 to 3 MOA targets doesn't really call for prone for me. I like your bonus stage. I just wrote the bonus stage for our match this Sunday, I'm going with a 100 yard snake charmer off of a wobbly tire stack. Luckily, I'm at the age where I don't really need friends anymore.

@@scottcottontx 😂 Snake charmers are a lot of fun, but shooting one at distance off a wobbly prop is devious! Good luck!

My favorite part of the videos is the intro montage too. Glad you could make it this month, I know your schedule was crazy. I really liked how the bonus stage turned out, I couldn’t believe how much more nerve racking a shot is when you are trying to hit one target but not hit a nearby target downrange. I can’t wait to see what stage you make for everyone next month!

Thank you!

Thank you! The KYL off a tank trap was tough, I can’t believe I hit the same number of 1/4” targets as 1” targets. 😂

Definitely a fun challenge!

Thank you!

That’s an interesting thought.

In short, if you create a bag within the bag, remove all of the air and can guarantee that it'll stay out, sure. Otherwise it dries out and makes a brick. :/ We did go through a few bags trying to get it to work though.

@@chrissheppard1555 I wasn’t sure if Dave tested magic sand or not, I should have figured he tried everything!

@@22LRPhantom it was Chris's idea on the magic sand, the mixture I made was super oily, it did seem to work pretty good.

Completely agree with you, $100 isn’t cheap, I was just noting it was cheaper than similar bags. I know some people have purchased the bag with no fill to use something they prefer so it’s definitely possible. There is a Velcro strap on one side where you can adjust the fill to the level you like.

Yes. I sew a 2 inch velcro funnel in the leg of one side. Directly below the tag and handle, that bump is fill flap.

Yeah, the design is brilliant. This entire time it seems like people have focused on making the bag stick to the prop well but never on holding the rifle to the bag. I think bags people use a lot get worn in such a way they kind of do this, but just building it into the design was a great idea. I really like using this bag on the tank trap, and with shooting a KYL rack from the tank trap for the next NRL22 match I’m hoping it helps out on that stage!

@@22LRPhantom I was practicing tank trap kyl with my son yesterday and saw the gun rolling on our bag. He has a flat arca on the bottom of the forend, but I still saw it rolling ever so slightly. Might have to try this bag out.

The pyramid one definitely was challenging time wise, at least how I wanted to shoot it. The tank trap one is a little better time wise, but I had a malfunction that took a few seconds and I wanted to slow down and take my time on those 1/4” targets. I’ve dropped a few points by trying to go too fast aim the last few matches and since I have the time I might as well use it. Have you shot the July match yet?

@@22LRPhantom I haven’t shot July yet. This coming Sunday is our match here. Hopefully I get my footage out in a timely manner 😂

😂 Good luck on the match, I’m looking forward to seeing the video!

I know that rear bag from anywhere! Freedomshack right? I got one as well and love it 👍🏼

@@CWNRL22 Sorry if you get two comments, I think KZbin accidentally deleted my first response. Anyways, yeah, I love the Freedom Shack’s shooting bags and no one even really knows they exist yet. I’m going to make a video this month about the Sand Castle shooting bag which is my personal favorite so people know it’s out there. Their bags have become my go to bags over the last few months, great quality and helps me build a solid position quickly. Glad it works for you as well!

Good question! I am able to dial negative mils on my scope with how I have it set up, and my ballistics calculator told me I needed -.3 mils for that distance. So I dialed down -.3 mils before the stage began to be able to shoot with crosshairs telling me exactly where the bullet would go. On some of the other stages in that match I hold the different elevations of targets without dialing my scope, and they are in the match video if you are interested in seeing that. Thanks for watching the video.

@@22LRPhantom I use a Tract Toric ELR scope and it has a hard zero stop. So I just hold .2 low

@@CWNRL22 That makes sense. I set the zero with a few extra clicks so I could dial negative if I need to in a match. When possible, I like to aim dead on at a target.

I really screwed this stage up. I was dialed down, but maybe too much or not enough…plus my rounds started straying…I think carbon ring got me…I thought I could make it one more match before cleaning. 🤷‍♂️

@@gnroll1 I think this was the toughest stage by far in the June match. Sorry to hear the carbon ring got you, it’s frustrating when you line up a good shot and don’t see the results down range. By the way, I watched your match you uploaded today, that looked like a ton of fun. Great video!

Hey man, I’m a big fan! I’ve got a crazy schedule coming up but I will definitely do my best to get it done. Thanks for checking out my channel.

Yes, the club that hosts the matches is in Milan, Ohio.

Thank you, I have been wanting to try this and have a hard time finding places that host these matches. I planned on going to sturgis mich next month to watch and see what I’d be in for, it’d be nice to have a couple options within a couple hours of me.

@@Tantrum791 No problem! There are a few in Ohio, one in Antwerp and another in Lisbon. The one in Milan meets the second Sunday of each month so the next one meets July 14. Hope you can make it!

Thank you I intend to, Antwerp is closer yet! I’m in Edon Ohio.

Awesome! I’ve shot at Antwerp as well and they are a bunch of great people. Unfortunately, that’s an extra half hour of driving for me so I have only been there once, but they are awesome people. Here is the club webpage for their address (practiscore.com/clubs/antwerp_conservation_club ). The people at ECCL are also great and we get there early to set up, if you get there around 11 am we would have a lot of time to answer any questions and explain how it all works. If you have a rifle already set up you could shoot the stages as well. Anyways, my name is Ben and I hope to see you at the match!

That’s a clever way to get the course of fire if the main website is down. Good luck in your match!

Thank you! This course of fire was really fun.

😂

Thank you! Yeah they put on a great match and it’s lots of fun. Hope it works out with your schedule soon!

Thank you! That is a great question. One of the guys that shoots at our local match makes custom imported car parts and after looking at the shooting bags we were using was convinced he could make a better one. After a little bit of back and forth he created a new bag, called Sand Castle, which uses a unique design that really hold the rifle stable while shooting. I’m working on a video to let people know it exists because it was developed locally. It is available online here buschursllc.com/br-cart/home/2019-the-sandcastle-bag.html. Since I helped provide feedback to make the bag better, I’ve been told if you write my name (Ben) in the order form you will get an extra 10% off (it won’t come off the online order, but I’ve been told when they process the order later the discount will be applied then). I am not sponsored and don’t make any money off of this bag, just FYI. The Sand Castle has quickly become my go to bag for most stages and I’ve used it for the past three competitions and have been impressed. I’m hoping to be able to go into more detail in a video about it sometime next month. I just realized you also might be referring to the large support bag I used on a few stages as well. That is the Cole Tac Mega Bag, which is available here www.cole-tac.com/product/mega-bag/. I keep finding new ways to use this bag and I really like it.

@@22LRPhantom Yep yep I was asking the shooting bag because it kind of looks like gamechanger, but not in some angle. I will check it out. Thank you again for the link and reply.

No problem!

Thanks Austin! It was great to see you at the match and I thought the course of fire was pretty fun. You are the go to person for KZbin thumbnails, I thought this one turned out pretty cool. Anyways, I’ll see you next month!

I think there is an Old Guns division for NRL22 (young guns, ladies, base class, open class, and old guns divisions). There might even be more, Ute they try to even out the competition for everyone to have fun.

These matches are a ton of fun. The guys that put this together month after month do a great job.

These matches are surprisingly a ton of fun and something to look forward to every month. I think the easiest way to find a local match is to go to practiscore.com/search/matches and type in your state/nearby states and click the NRL22 box and you should see any close matches. Good luck!

Haha! I know age will catch up to me sometime soon, but so far it doesn’t really bother me.

That’s a really interesting thought. When reading the rules I always read it as you can’t take the typical range equipment, like an actual chair, into the stage as they are typically available but would make many stages too easy. This seems to fit in the context of how the rule is written as well, mentioning typical equipment that is found at a range, so I think the rule is just trying to limit people using range equipment to gain an advantage. You are allowed to take shooting bags, and you obviously use them to lean on in various ways to become more stable, and I’ve never seen any restrictions on how you can use a shooting bag in the rules. I haven’t ever contacted the national organization for clarity but I asked the local Match Director and he thought it was a good idea. Since we all share equipment with everyone at the match it really doesn’t give anyone an advantage over another shooter during the match. If you limited the ways people could use shooting bags I think it would honestly open up a whole can of worms. Did one competitor lean illegally on a shooting bag from a given position on a prop? I’ve been to a number of matches in and around Ohio and I’ve seen many people use this as a tactic to get through a particular stage and it’s never been ruled illegal, in NRL22, PRS, or even local clubs. So to answer the question directly, no I have not contacted the national rules committee, but I don’t believe it violates even the spirit of the rule since you use shooting bags any way you can to become more stable and what I’m using is not range equipment that is lying around. I would talk to the local match director and see what they think is fair and go with that. My bet is that as long as you are willing to share equipment it really won’t matter in the end results of a particular match since everyone could use it but everyone might have more fun and get more hits along the way. Good luck and thanks for the comment!

@@22LRPhantom We are just getting started with precision shooting at our club, and at this point I am kind of the match director :) Just to be clear. As an old man I would benefit greatly from being able to use a bag, or anything else, as a chair. I love the idea! If a person brought a milk crate to use as a seat? Do you think that would raise concerns? A milk crate is definitely not a chair and a milk crate is not specifically prohibited in the rules. What if the milk crate was inside a canvas bag? If a bag is allowed, but not a milk crate, what we are saying is you can use a chair as long as it is a $140 bag, and not a $15 milk crate. Using something as a chair is a pretty easy to define thing, and probably less of a slippery slope than not using an actual chair, but allowing the use of some kind of a bag as a chair. 🤷‍♂️

@@22LRPhantom BTW… nicely done b-roll ❤

@@clarson2916 Good luck getting a precision club going, sounds like you are going to have a lot of fun! These questions are exactly why I wouldn’t want to be a match director, because you have to figure out all the fine details and I enjoy shooting, not figuring out the specific rules. I think I’ve been to over 40 matches now and I’ve never seen anyone bring a milk crate (maybe it was hiding in their bag?). At some point you can only do so much though. Are you planning to check everyone’s shooting bags to ensure they don’t have something like a milk crate in them? That doesn’t sound fun for anyone. In cases like these, I would try to refer to the rules as much as possible when making these determinations. In this case, the rules (Section 5-D-2) specifically state that any shooting equipment not prohibited in the rules (like equipment at the range itself) or the stage brief can be used. I guess it’s up to you to determine if a milk crate is a viable shooting equipment compared to a shooting bag. The rule also does not limit how anyone uses their shooting equipment on a stage, so however they want to use that shooting equipment seems within the rules as long as it’s safe. Honestly, just have fun with it, talk to the people that show up and see what everyone thinks. Maybe just take a vote, or use the match funds to purchase a bag that everyone can use. I’d lean towards whatever seems in the rules and allows people to be safe, have fun, and get some hits to keep coming back and continue to progress in their shooting skills. Lots of potential to have fun and be fair to everyone.

@@clarson2916 Thank you!

The NRL22 match in this video is in Milan, Ohio. The matches are typically held the second Sunday of each month if that is close to you, though because of Mother’s Day the one in May will be held on the third Sunday. If you are in the United States but not close to Ohio there are usually matches somewhere relatively close to your location and everyone shoots the same course of fire. NRL22 is also shot outside of the US in places like Canada, Australia, and elsewhere. Check out www.practiscore.com to search for matches near your location. If you need anything else just let me know.

Thank you!

No problem! There are a lot of different rifle models people use to fit a variety of budgets and interest levels. At the more accessible end you have the Ruger 10/22 and Ruger Precision Rimfire rifles. Moving up from there you see people use CZ 457s, the Tikka T1X, and Begara B14Rs. On the high end you have custom models like RimX and Vudoo rifles. I’m sure there are a bunch of great rifles I’m not listing but those seem to be the most popular. I began shooting with a Ruger Precision Rimfire rifle and love it, but it doesn’t have the fine tuned accuracy of my Vudoo rifle you see in my videos. I’d say having any 22lr chambered rifle that you can load up 10 rounds in a removable magazine, a decent first focal plane scope, and reliable ammunition that you know the elevation out to 100 yards and closer and you will be competitive any given month.

@22LRPhantom thank you so much for that information. my gun club has an ipsc match this weekend I'm going to go out and watch

@@johnhill3644 I’m glad to help, NRL22 is a ton of fun and there are matches all over so I hope you can get involved. If you need anything else just let me know if I can help. Good luck!

Thanks Austin! It’s always fun shooting together and having fun with the ECCL crew. I hope everyone can see how much fun these events are and decide to give it a try. Congratulations on finishing so high on the overall NRL22 leaderboards! I can’t believe you and John finished so close on the final rankings.

Definitely a fun match and the weather was better than snow too! Definitely great shooters, everyone is hitting the targets so much there is talk about needing to replace the targets! Lots of fun and friendly people, just a great time.

I appreciate the constructive feedback! The rifle is 22 pounds and the bag is another 12 pounds so it is hard to pick them up together but definitely something I should work on. If you have any more ideas please let me know. Thanks for the advice and watching the video.

Outstanding, I build competition rifles and balance is key factor for a rifle. Even with straight contour barrels, they weigh 18lbs configured. I would recommend using the Greyops mini pro and attached bag. Remove the brass weights and add the barricade stop. It weighs roughly 1.5lbs and can be detached very quickly. You can remove your chassis weights in lieu of this setup and stay 20lbs. Other than that, good shooting!

I know you build great rifles and really respect your work, I’ve talked to people who have and love them. I really appreciate you taking a moment to give me individual advice, I’ll see what I can do. Thank you again!

Only if you can reach that top rung, otherwise you can re-use a rung according to the course of fire. I’m like an inch too short to reach the top rung so I cleared it with the match director before I started. Thanks for watching!

Copy, i thought that may be the case. You look tall on cam lol, they say it adds ten pounds.

@@timbcf Haha! Yeah, I’m *just* like an inch too short to make it work, I’ve tried it before.

Stage 2 I figured it would be quicker to just have a bag at both ends rather than move the rifle and the bag. So this stage I did run a double Wiebad Tater Tot bag on the saw horse. Right now I’m helping someone develop a shooting bag that is even better so stay tuned!

That is the Cole Tac mega bag (www.cole-tac.com/product/mega-bag/). I wasn’t sure how often I would use it when I bought it but I keep finding ways to use it on stages.

This is a game called NRL22 (National Rifle League) and it is a ton of fun. It is a monthly competition that is held all over the county, so chances are there are some matches within a couple hours of you. The main website has the course of fire posted in the downloads section at NRL22.org and you can see the match everyone will shoot for the month. If you are interested in signing up, check out Practiscore.com and search for matches in your area (state is easy to find typically), just narrow the results with NRL22 matches. Give it a try, it’s a ton of fun. If you don’t have the equipment just contact the range ahead of time and they can probably make some available for you.

@@22LRPhantom I live in Sweden so unfortunately it’s probably not a thing here

@@0hleg They had the world Rimfire competition in Italy last year, maybe there are matches you can get to around your area. gunsweek.com/en/rifles/articles/prs-rimfire-precision-rifle-22-1st-world-championship-italy

Thank you! Definitely started out cold but it was nice outside by the last stage.

Yeah, the weather was crazy. Snowing like crazy in the morning and by the afternoon it was actually pretty nice.