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14 күн бұрын
(Recap) Zwift Race: Turf N Surf
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@philhoy6330
@philhoy6330 11 сағат бұрын
What the skibity?!?!? Last minute points change.
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 2 сағат бұрын
@@philhoy6330 not ideal lol
@bearcatbrewmeister9218
@bearcatbrewmeister9218 12 сағат бұрын
Danger Noodle - can't wait to see what you have to say about the idiot that designed that one 😁
@Kru1983
@Kru1983 14 сағат бұрын
I don’t know what to go with now. Tron or Canyon 7.8!? What would you choose?
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 14 сағат бұрын
The tron is about half a second slower than the Canyon with 7.8s going up the KOM. If you really need that extra boost, the 7.8s are the way to go. I love the speed of the Tron and would be racing with that!
@xandershawvlog
@xandershawvlog 17 сағат бұрын
Have to seem the email today? Looks like FAL and FTS for all four segments?
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 17 сағат бұрын
@@xandershawvlog WOW… Huge thanks for pointing this out. EMERGENCY RECON UPDATE COMING.
@xandershawvlog
@xandershawvlog 16 сағат бұрын
@ it certainly did not say that and what you recon’d originally on the schedule.
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 16 сағат бұрын
WTRL is always one step ahead of me lol. I appreciate you pointing this out! Big advantage to the people that know it has points up to grab.
@timclaes2589
@timclaes2589 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the recon! I will go with the DT Swiss 62 wheels here. I might just be able to hang on with a lighter setup, on the KOMs every second counts. The aero loss isn’t important as I’ll be sitting on wheels as much as possible. All gaps will open up on the climbs, and if you can survive both KOMs you’re guaranteed to score big points. The two intermediate sprints are only breadcrumbs in the larger scheme of the course.
@roadcyclist1
@roadcyclist1 4 күн бұрын
Interesting choice on the disc wheels. Everyone i have talked to said it would be pure stupidity to run disc wheels!
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 4 күн бұрын
Lower speed races will see a greater difference between an all around setup and aero. (Dogma with 7.8s) v (Dogma with Disc) I do believe the disc will be faster/save more energy, just not on the climbs. I've done these KOMs/routes with both in different races and never truly felt out of competition when using disc. Once dropped on a climb there was never a chance for me to claw back to the group with 7.8s. Go with the Tron if you feel that 7.8s is too light, but either way it won't make THAT much of a difference.
@thebikewhisperer
@thebikewhisperer 5 күн бұрын
That last feather powerup is indeed not worth much. Why not spice things up with the ghost instead…
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 5 күн бұрын
The ghost would be VERY interesting. Honestly though, an aero boost or draft boost would make this finish really good. See who has the top sprint from the final group after all the climbing.
@Kru1983
@Kru1983 Күн бұрын
@@CasualCreationsjr you probably wouldn’t even want to keep that last feather for the final sprint would you.
@drumtoe
@drumtoe 6 күн бұрын
Did you see us win with the bike swap?
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 5 күн бұрын
Wow! Great hard effort and very smooth bike swap. Still won't recommend it LOL!
@philhoy6330
@philhoy6330 6 күн бұрын
Good recon but Bro you sure about those disk wheels? (I hope my opponents are on the disk wheels)
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching Phil! I believe the disc wheels will help you more over the course of the race than just the hills. While heavier riders may have issues with staying with the group on climbs, the issue of not wasting watts on the flats and being ready for sprint points is crucial. If you only care about finishing points, 7.8s might be more your speed, but be ready for decents. There's a good chance you may need to burn some extra watts. The NYC KOMs (Both of them) are one of the trickiest KOMs to recommend wheels. Something like Box hill or climbs longer than 6 minutes I would typically recommend all around bikes+Wheel combo. These have crazy peaks, but have some flats throughout that also help with Disc wheels. Higher FTP riders (A) (B) will find that there is less than 3 seconds to gain with 7.8s vs Disc. For (C) (D) there is a but more flexibility but 5-6s faster isn't huge with a dangerous decent right after the climb. I always encourage people to do what they feel is fastest and I always appreciate them coming back to tell me if I was wrong as well!
@benfinesilver2250
@benfinesilver2250 6 күн бұрын
Thanks very much for the recon. IHMO, politely I'd disagree with disc wheels. You're coasting down. The first sprint can be won by getting a gap and attacking the short spikey climb before it tips down then using the anvil and hanging on. The first KOM before the sprint will go super hard, because if you're dropped, there's no chance of extra points and by getting away you will guarantee yourself points on the sprints. I think it depends on which Cat you're in. If you are in A, then that hill is going at 6w/kg or more to hang on and there will be several splits. You can go seriously hard to start with because there's a ton of recovery afterwards. If 20 have gone up there faster and you're dropped beyond that, FAL is over with. For this reason, you don't want a disc wheel unless you are one of the very best climbers in the field and know that you will survive. There is a relatively big diffference in climbing when you compare discs to 7.8s and that's where most of the effort will come in this race. Climbing is more important as there is low draft. Bike choices make less difference between efforts recovering in draft than they do on the hills. Even Millentsteins would be advisable to some riders if you do think you'll struggle to stay with the front on the first climb; because unless you do, the sprint points for the race are over and your position at the end will be worse if you lose a group. That's my 2 Cents. Best of luck!
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 6 күн бұрын
Hi there Ben! Thanks for your opinion and I love talking bikes and wheel choice. I think that you're right about wanting lighter weight wheels for the climbs. From CAT A's perspective, you gain 2-3 seconds on the climbs with 7.8s if you're going up the KOMs putting out the same wattage and being the same weight. On the other side of things, in CAT D, you could lose up to 5-6 seconds on the KOMs. The thing that matters most in this race is the ability to recover and to gear up for the Sprints or KOM. With lighter wheels, I truly believe you lose the ability to recover enough for this race. Especially on the first sprint. While you'll have a great start to the race, the 0.5kg you save from the wheel choice isn't strong enough for me to recommend it. I mean either way, wheel choice doesn't make THAT much of a difference either way. (Unless you're racing After Party races or only doing KOM hunting) Somewhat of a mind game IMO. Again love the opinion and appreciate you for watching! If you decide you run the 7.8s, let me know how you do!!!!
@benfinesilver2250
@benfinesilver2250 6 күн бұрын
@@CasualCreationsjr Thanks for taking the time to reply! I guess we can agree on that. It really depends! There's likely someone in my race that will go off at 6.5 with a hard effort at the peak before going over the top, so I'll need the small margins to try to hang on!
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 6 күн бұрын
@@benfinesilver2250 There's always someone to push me past what I can do lol. Good luck in your race and if you do go 7.8s or an all around bike choice, let me know how your race goes!!
@ivangowan1939
@ivangowan1939 6 күн бұрын
Totally agree. This race will be won by riders who get away on the climbs. Sprint points on the flat are secondary as most won’t be there to contend them.
@Kru1983
@Kru1983 Күн бұрын
I think Tron still might be the way to go on this route in a D race.
@Y.Tokugawa
@Y.Tokugawa 6 күн бұрын
Nice
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 6 күн бұрын
Thanks
@baff-cj6cw
@baff-cj6cw 6 күн бұрын
great recon! Thank you! Looking forward to this one, while I am not a climber - yet...
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 6 күн бұрын
Just eat several bagels throughout the day and you'll do great!
@JDirom
@JDirom 13 күн бұрын
Best of luck with your new business!
@ZwiftInsider
@ZwiftInsider 13 күн бұрын
Wondering != Wandering :)
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 13 күн бұрын
oof
@ZwiftyZwifter
@ZwiftyZwifter 13 күн бұрын
@@CasualCreationsjr He's never wrong!
@ZwiftyZwifter
@ZwiftyZwifter 13 күн бұрын
@@CasualCreationsjr Also neotokyo is what it should be called! Great recon anyway, nice tips.
@neilarrowsmith6138
@neilarrowsmith6138 14 күн бұрын
Good luck with your next chapter, hope it works out for you.
@terrywilkinson2885
@terrywilkinson2885 17 күн бұрын
Such cheese 😂
@Brice-ql8rt
@Brice-ql8rt 17 күн бұрын
Awesome recons mate
@ConnorCanRead
@ConnorCanRead 17 күн бұрын
Good luck with everything! Must have been a fun time on the final Danny Enzo livestream getting plugged as the new tiktok streamer with some idea that you were going to need to step back.
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 17 күн бұрын
Haha I definitely wasn’t expecting him to say that, that’s for sure. Right now it’s to try and relax and plan for the summer
@ZwiftyRaces-j7v
@ZwiftyRaces-j7v 17 күн бұрын
Good luck with everything! Especially the business, I’m sure it’ll be awesome.
@jesperhgdk
@jesperhgdk 18 күн бұрын
Thankful for all your videos and recons, take care ;-)
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 17 күн бұрын
I appreciate your support and I'm hoping to be stronger than ever for the ZRL Final recons!
@PW-CreakySaddle
@PW-CreakySaddle 18 күн бұрын
Great what you do (and have done) for us. Time for a change which for many of us we avoid. Keep genuine and follow your ideas and just remember us now and again 😊
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 17 күн бұрын
Hoping to make some really cool content for the cycling world over the next year or so, but for now, RECONS!!!!
@tricycle6390
@tricycle6390 18 күн бұрын
You have filled a gap in the recon world, I was not finding what I was looking for with the other guys since Simon from Level velo left and you're my favorite. But...even if it makes us frenemies I must say...vive le bike swap :) I feel you as I am starting a buisness testing lactate and VO2max for athletes, let me know if that's something that would be of interrest after your break from the bike. Ride on !
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 17 күн бұрын
I appreciate the support! The last 2 months have been quite busy, but you and my other supporters truly make it worth while!
@candacesam7386
@candacesam7386 18 күн бұрын
Here for whatever! I'm sure that's not helpful to ideas but I'm just interested in finding a new channel to keep watching. Good luck!
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 17 күн бұрын
Thank you! I think once the ZRL season is over with, I'll have more time to create some awesome content AND be less burnt out.
@georgschirmer9898
@georgschirmer9898 18 күн бұрын
Good luck👍🏻✊🏻
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 17 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@hllamasiv
@hllamasiv 19 күн бұрын
Cannot wait to win this race with a bike swap 😂
@bearcatbrewmeister9218
@bearcatbrewmeister9218 20 күн бұрын
When I saw the course, I tested the fastest possible bike changes (I switched twice) on the forward loop figuring it was the closest possible available route choice. In a best possible scenario - switch on an uphill where it is faster to stop and using pre-programmed AutoHotKeys to do the bike swap for a total bike change lost time to field of about 10 seconds (then x2 for the two changes) and then using Zwifter Bikes to get the gain of a gravel bike compared to Tron on only the changed bike section to get an estimate of improved time for the gravel bike at my wattage - I found that the bike changes were faster net time under these ideal conditions. Noticeably faster. I can't recall the exact amount, but faster, something like 10 to 20 seconds. So why did I already decide at that point not to do a bike change with that information even though I have the ability to do it fast with AutoHotKeys before knowing the power up? First, my original comparison of gained time was on Zwifter Bikes, apples to apples. But if I compare me on a faster gravel bike with no draft versus a rider with 100% draft on a slower Tron bike, my previous advantage in bike swap is eliminated. Second, after change 1, I would come up on the field and draft through them, gaining extra speed. But after I came off the front, the whole peloton might start chasing me for a while, minimizing my gain. Third, in race conditions vs ideal conditions, the changes would not be as fast. Fourth, and the big one, the PU is steamroller which make the discussion completely irrelevant. Bike change - data says no way!
@ZwiftyZwifter
@ZwiftyZwifter 20 күн бұрын
"route road to ruins reverse" is just too hard to say. Was that one take? "the greatest recon known...." Oooo, you had me there Nice delving into the depths of the bike change. Well done on riding this beast alone. 'Couldn't do it! I tell a lie, I could've, I just didn't want to.
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 20 күн бұрын
I filmed this Tuesday morning so it was relatively one take for each part lol. This also was not a fun route to ride.
@MrGabrism
@MrGabrism 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for the recon!
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 20 күн бұрын
You bet!
@blitzboyFD
@blitzboyFD 20 күн бұрын
Great vid , your last recon helped me score some FAL points
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 20 күн бұрын
LETS GO! Hope you can score some more big points this week
@EpicRacingOnZwift
@EpicRacingOnZwift 22 күн бұрын
It like flat and long. But flat and short is another story.
@EpicRacingOnZwift
@EpicRacingOnZwift 22 күн бұрын
Another good race recon, John! This race is gonna be fast! It’ll be over before it even starts.
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 20 күн бұрын
Thanks! I think the gravel will slow the pack up a bit, but still not too technical this week.
@benfinesilver2250
@benfinesilver2250 22 күн бұрын
wishing you well. Thanks.
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 20 күн бұрын
Appreciate it. Updates coming soon.
@philhoy6330
@philhoy6330 23 күн бұрын
That for the recon bro. Good stuff. Hope ya feel better soon. (Winning a sprint will make you feel better)
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 20 күн бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate it. Updates coming soon and there's no sprints I win lol
@PedalToProgress
@PedalToProgress 25 күн бұрын
Have you considered joining the TTT League over on TrainingPeaks Virtual? Would love to have you and your team racing over in TPV 🙌🏻
@alphagadget1
@alphagadget1 25 күн бұрын
Short and to the point isn't always a bad thing - helps me identify the important points of the race without a lot of faff. Also - that's a really good looking TTT team there ;) lol
@homiertcw
@homiertcw 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for these weekly updates, really appreciate it!
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 25 күн бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad that people like these and I will continue to make them better each week!
@PW-CreakySaddle
@PW-CreakySaddle 26 күн бұрын
even your not best is fully watchable and of great use, all come good soon
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 26 күн бұрын
I appreciate it and I hope we can get the magic back for next week!
@FriskKeen
@FriskKeen 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for your recons, and the great work you do for us with ‘em 👍🏻 it is highly appreciated! Chin up, buddy - ‘Tutto Passa’ 💪
@manonholtman
@manonholtman 27 күн бұрын
Look who starts preparation as well 😂 this one is made for you Keen
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 26 күн бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate it. Truly!
@Andy_B_W
@Andy_B_W 25 күн бұрын
Having just been upgraded to C cat, fast and furious isn’t what I want to hear 😂😂😂😂
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 27 күн бұрын
POWER UPS Draft Boost 40% Aero Boost 50% Ghost 10% Good Luck!
@rasmusslotnielsen8934
@rasmusslotnielsen8934 29 күн бұрын
Great recon - Thx. Now u can count me in as a subsriber ;-)
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@ZwiftyZwifter
@ZwiftyZwifter Ай бұрын
Discombobulated!! Boom, best word of all of the recons of this.
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr Ай бұрын
Best word of this year!
@user-mh1er9pb8i
@user-mh1er9pb8i Ай бұрын
thanks!
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr Ай бұрын
No problem!
@zwiftalete
@zwiftalete Ай бұрын
I feel like this route is haunting me after the Rapha
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr Ай бұрын
I never ended up doing this route during the Rapha
@user-rw5oh9pc3v
@user-rw5oh9pc3v Ай бұрын
Great recon, I won my first ZRL race last night after watching this 🎉 thanks for making these!
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr Ай бұрын
@@user-rw5oh9pc3v LETS GO!!! We LOVE to hear it
@EpicRacingOnZwift
@EpicRacingOnZwift Ай бұрын
Thanks for this recon, John. Your tips really paid off today, especially the ones about the exact timing of when to use the power-ups on the KOMs.
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr Ай бұрын
@@EpicRacingOnZwift glad to hear! Sometimes I believe I say the right things so I’m always happy to hear it works well! Hope you had a good race and come back for round 3!
@EpicRacingOnZwift
@EpicRacingOnZwift Ай бұрын
@ my other teammates were talking about your tips on Discord during the race! You da man!
@zwiftalete
@zwiftalete Ай бұрын
Can you
@craigharper01
@craigharper01 Ай бұрын
what a spew fest course. great course for A and B and sandbagging C's
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr Ай бұрын
Haha Super excited to see some racing on it!
@carlraynham8547
@carlraynham8547 Ай бұрын
Pinarello Dogma F 24 with disc fastest bike on this route, why you ride a Tron on recon?
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr Ай бұрын
I like shiny things
@PaulusPee
@PaulusPee Ай бұрын
thanks!
@EpicRacingOnZwift
@EpicRacingOnZwift Ай бұрын
John I used your tip today about using the featherweight powerup as the road turns right and incline hits 6% on the first hump of the Zwift KOM. It worked. That was in the Epic Racing Supersonic Sunday race here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/haLUoYF8gK6sesksi=LM4GfzXc9_39uQcZ . I mentioned your name and your channel. Thanks for the tip. I’ll use that tip on Tuesday in the ZRL race. By the way, my sidekick Monty Lebear says “hi” to you. He’s a big fan!
@CasualCreationsjr
@CasualCreationsjr Ай бұрын
Glad to hear it! Sometimes I can give good tips lol. Hope you and Monty have a good race in Tuesday!