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@ddrum757 21 сағат бұрын
Opinion - Olympic judo is not representative of judo generally.
@sig1761 Күн бұрын
To be fair to Judokas, most people cant stand back up once they get thrown to anything other than mats.
@shystermyster87 Күн бұрын
As a predominant striker when I started as a kid it was $150 granted it was an unlimited membership at aka, fast forward a decade and it's $250 for a gym nobody's heard of😂
@shystermyster87 Күн бұрын
Combat sports saved my life and my moms. Parents separated when I was 2 and watched my mom get beat since my memory worked. When I was 5-6 my dad brought me to a friend's house to watch a ufc event(liddell era) and I instantly knew that's what I wanted, as soon as im skilled enough she'll be safe. From 6-13 I was in the gym, boxing, tkd and wrestling.pops got locked up for 25 to life when I was 12 and I started hanging with the wrong crowd but that seemed normal since that was the environment i grew up in(a relative would count 100k in drug money weekly next to my crib until we got raided by swat since it was the only quiet place in the house), ended up being 13 around gangbangers and drug dealers in a traphouse. Eventually as time went on friends started catching life sentences and getting shot, rumbles and fighting was fun for me but when mfs started pulling the glock instead of throwing hands i said f*ck this im out(nothing against guns i got plenty)I got put on probation/expelled and went back to the boxing gym. Saw the guy who was beating on my mom going off while blacked out and gave him a bloody nose when I was 14, my mom and everybody in the house was safe after that. Fast forward a decade my ex left me, lost my car job and apartment all in 8 months and started drinking like a fish. After 10 years with like 6 pad sessions i had a buddy that was putting on a muay thai event ask me to fill in for $50 on 3 days short notice after a figter pulled out. Ended up winning and fell in love with it all over again and it pulled me out of the addiction. Fighting saves lives and I'm living proof.
@AndrewBromley-h8t 6 күн бұрын
I wonder why I can’t read the comments
@utopiawi 5 күн бұрын
It's all public! Not sure why.
@CPD0808 9 күн бұрын
What is a pinning oportunity? A punch ???
@Mistrhappy 9 күн бұрын
Kesa katami, kamichiho, chokes, armbar, leg lock etc
@utopiawi 5 күн бұрын
At a high level, getting their back to the floor and not between their legs.
@Caleb_287 10 күн бұрын
I like my judo gym because we don’t train for just competition. We do ground work too
@utopiawi 5 күн бұрын
That's awesome! And will come in handy in competition anyways.
@Caleb_287 5 күн бұрын
@ thanks man! They just changed the rules in judo that may impact some of the ground stuff in judo. I think the 2024 Olympics showed how dumb competition judo can be. If you just jump into a throw and then go to the ground you are safe? You should be choked or arm locked
@Urmomma5f4t 15 күн бұрын
BJJ does so little standup it tends to favor people and almost encourage lack of dynamic and athletic players. Most bjj brown belts have trouble standing up with a hs wrestler. For self defense their assumption is: 1) they can get you to the ground despite training little standup 2) the surface is soft enough they’re not semi concussed after hitting the ground and no one else is around BJJ encourages too much stalling . The sport is encouraged to be played in an increasingly unrealistic manner. The main advantage wrestlers sambo and judoka have over them is a sense of urgency and aggression most bjj players don’t have . Groundwork past blue belt in bjj tends to focus on how to beat other bjj players. Are you really going to learn single leg X or use it commonly anywhere outside of a bjj mat ? We rarely see it even in mma for a reason. IMO bjj has major flaws in itself as a fighting style and they’ll always call out oh but my gym does judo and bjj too. I’ve yet to know a single bjj player below black belt who wasn’t a former judoka or wrestler that could get through a hs wrestling regional or local judo competition in the novice bracket. Even at black belt most of them just don’t have the ability to get their game going without literally sitting down or letting themselves get thrown hard. Seems far too defensive of a martial art for me . Passivity doesn’t win you fights
@ashtoncomer935 21 күн бұрын
Wrestling and BJJ or Judo and BJJ are amazing combos
@utopiawi 5 күн бұрын
For sure. I'd say either Wrestling or Judo, + BJJ are awesome
@Jake-pm3pz Ай бұрын
Because in a real fight there’s no mat and if someone gets thrown it’s over
@utopiawi 5 күн бұрын
"real fight" 😂
@Jake-pm3pz 5 күн бұрын
@ yes, there’s no mats outside, and the Judoka would throw a BJJ grappler without going to the ground himself, Judokas and wrestlers dictate whether it goes to the ground or not
@Throwawayytm Ай бұрын
Judo is better for self defence in a street fight situation. Judo guys have better takedowns than bjj. And they can lay anyone flat on concrete, if that happens there is no need for “ground work” because the fight is over by then😂 bjj guys have bad takedowns. They literally sometimes sit down and pull the other person 😂 that’s good in bjj fight not in a real fight
@utopiawi 5 күн бұрын
BJJ has plenty of take downs for self defense. They do come from Judo and Wrestling though
@Throwawayytm 5 күн бұрын
@ yeah maybe but put a black belt judo and black belt bjj guys against each other and 9/10 times the judo guy will take the bjj guy down. If it is on concrete the fight is ended right there.
@utopiawi 5 күн бұрын
@@Throwawayytm Are you putting rules and restrictions on a fight? An assumption they landed on something as hard as concrete. No punches thrown. No other environmental factors. You probably have a 5% chance to actually get in, make your grips, and execute to land a throw that gets you to your 9 times out of 10 of "ending the fight on concrete".
@Throwawayytm 5 күн бұрын
@@utopiawi we are talking about a grappling context in a street fight what will be more effective judo or bjj no body is talking about punches or weapons or other external stuff. Judo is more affective for self defence. Bjj has weak takedowns compared to judo. And average judo guy is way more skilled in takedowns and takedown defence. And in the street yes the ground is usually tough and and actual good throw would end the fight.
@Mike-m5q9t Ай бұрын
I clicked on this short video because I thought I will be learning something new....but tx. Repetition never hurt.
@utopiawi 5 күн бұрын
Reps Mike!
@Mike-m5q9t Ай бұрын
I once listened to a high level bjj instructor saying that: Judo and wrestling are just additions of wrestling. Wrestling is where all started
@kodokanshiai2143 Ай бұрын
I’m not totally sure if that’s true, at grappling has been a crucial concept in both ancient Chinese and Japanese martial arts. Judo and Bjj are sports based off of ju-jitsu, (Japanese unarmed combat)
@ZzzZzz968 15 күн бұрын
Traditional Japanese Jujitsu is where it all started
@RA_Crash Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@utopiawi 5 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@slickwilly6868 Ай бұрын
In bjj you scoot your ass across the match like you're a dog with worms
@utopiawi 5 күн бұрын
Scratches my itches
@donutrangerr Ай бұрын
Because there's a difference between being thrown to the ground and locked while you're sitting. If you've felt how it feels to be thrown, that shit is terrible. Its mainly a safety issue
@TW.o9 Ай бұрын
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@WayneKing-w3y 2 ай бұрын
Back pack backpack
@EthanMcclintock 2 ай бұрын
This helped man, thanks 🙏🏼
@utopiawi 5 күн бұрын
You bet!
@Fireweeds 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! That was so far the best lesson in the break fall training I found. I really like the breakdown of how to train it at the end.
@utopiawi 5 күн бұрын
I am glad you found it helpful!
@cameronhobdell3730 2 ай бұрын
Great idea. Half guard has been one of the more difficult positions to explain to the kids. This is perfect
@utopiawi 5 күн бұрын
I’m glad it was helpful!
@Steven-rp8zo 2 ай бұрын
these are great, thanks for posting!
@jeremywilliams9363 3 ай бұрын
BJJ doesn't know how to do throws they just know how to pull guard and butt scoot
@martinkarori7203 3 ай бұрын
Stop comparing these two sport in terms of rules. They can never be the same
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
It is important to compare them - so many people who are looking into the 2 sports don't understand the difference.
@denmur383 3 ай бұрын
You mean in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. Under rules, it doesn't matter. They are different for each hence no comparison.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
Yes, BJJ
@dannygeurts1921 3 ай бұрын
In BJJ they often lay down to start. I think that's lame. It may work, but the whole point is not lying down.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
Can you show me a high level match where they just "Lay down"?
@Hooey_Magoos 3 ай бұрын
bro is rambling to nobody.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
I sure am!
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
To your point though..... it's a significantly better hobby than scrolling KZbin shorts and wasting breath commenting on videos.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
3rd....I just checked your videos... ha.
@Hooey_Magoos 3 ай бұрын
@@utopiawi typing dont take up breath
@Icke1405 3 ай бұрын
Why are you defending yourself so much😭😭@@utopiawi
@TonyqTNT 3 ай бұрын
MAKE STRIKING GREAT AGAIN!!!
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
Bring it back
@paulthomassen5007 3 ай бұрын
That's how it is in competition. In training you go to submission.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
It really all depends don’t you think? \
@paulthomassen5007 3 ай бұрын
@@utopiawi, not really. It's pretty standard. There's only a few top athletes that's training for competitions. I'm talking national team athletes. The rest of us is training for the next belt, not caring much about tournaments. But we will gladly participate in tournaments if they are local. And every time a tournament comes along, we will have to brush up on the rules again. And if some new moronic rules like banning more gari comes along.
@itsAniQ 3 ай бұрын
Its just two different SPORTS.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, and even within BJJ there are sooooo many different rule sets that change how you play the game.
@Azzmelater 3 ай бұрын
As a bjj guy. Judo is definitely no slouch of an art. If you’re well seasoned in judo and do bjj you will absolutely terrorize some of the best bjj guys standing up. It’s not too hard to defend against wrestlers because they’re generally going to shoot for legs anyway. Judo guys will simply fling you around lmao.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
Man judo is so tough, no doubt. As for wrestlers vs judoka, really depends if they are wearing the Gi! It can be quite the equalizer for someone experienced in gripping.
@Urmomma5f4t 15 күн бұрын
@@utopiawi100% true gi vs no gi decides the match assuming similar mat times (you can’t expect an avg black belt in judo to beat a D1 wrestler in takedowns) . Take a similar judoka competitively to a wrestler and it’s going to depend on gi vs no gi. I would say a college wrestler is similar skill to a national champion in the USA. Outside of the USA the national champs of places like France Japan and other powerhouses dog walk them in the gi and get beaten but not as easily as the USA champ in no gi. Judo gets underestimated online because in the English speaking countries it’s generally low level. So they see a good wrestler (america has great wrestling vs the world) take down a judo guy and start to spring ideas in their head
@_matteo_ 3 ай бұрын
BJJ is simply Kosen Judo.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
Evolved!
@nickmaddalena985 3 ай бұрын
They are both sports at this stage. Different rules. Not one is better than the other. In judo the marshal art, you do plenty of ground fighting. When I did it, it was 50/50. Competition is not a street fight. It is to show skill of execution. Why is it so hard for people to understand. In judo you have to compete to get points to grade. Unlike some other marshal arts, where technique is judged by combinations and / or kata.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
👏
@arturpolanin8569 3 ай бұрын
I trained Judo for 20 years with black belt and now if lucky heading for for black belt in BJJ if will be lucky this year. As I can say when judo finish , BJJ is about to begin. But at the same time I would not downgrade Judo as well . Believe or not lads Judo ground will make u to sweat as well.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
I totally agree. Thanks for the positive comment! Keep training hard for that BJJ black belt!
@danieleptein9950 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, why not both? I like both for different reasons
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
I 100% agree! We have both at our Academy.
@donaldstewart8494 3 ай бұрын
bjj - boring AF.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
What's more exciting?
@samuelemeryjiujitsu 3 ай бұрын
What does being at a "very high level" have to do with fundamental rules of the sports?
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
"very high level" as in a very high level overview of the sports rules. What were you thinking?
@argkex9091 3 ай бұрын
That's a very general view. I don't agree at all.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
Which part don't you agree with? I'd be fascinated to know. This is high level, not "general"
@Trejan 3 ай бұрын
BJJ doesnt exist. It is still judo's ground fighting category called newaza.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
I'm not even sure what you mean by this?
@GMunoz-oj5zb 3 ай бұрын
There’s always the bjj hater
@RocketScienceIsSimple 3 ай бұрын
@@GMunoz-oj5zbHe's kind of right though. Bjj really just is ne-waza. If you come from judo, that is going to be your perspective. Now, they added different types of wrestling to it especially with no gi bjj but in the end, gi bjj really is just japanese jujustu. If you come from a wrestler's perspective you will see it differently, l'oreille like submission grappling and If you come as a bjj guy you will see it as the start and end all be all. If you take jiu-jitsu as John Danaher does it in his 4 step system (go to the ground, pass the Legs, escalate with pins and à hierarchy of dominant position, attack for the submission) and rate submissions as he does it: best percentage attacks in the 4 step system and If the system fails, enter the leg lock system; his system is basically combat judo. He even teaches his techniques in japanese. If it's the vision of the most successful bjj Master in the world, maybe we should listen to him rather than try to be contrarians. Just saying...
@rupin 3 ай бұрын
Falling flat on your back means your buddies all had a chance to stick your swords into your opponent. It signifies certain death cuz it takes too long to stand back up or evade a weapon strike fast enough
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
I didn't know swords and shields are still common tools in sport battle... interesting.
@GMunoz-oj5zb 3 ай бұрын
This is a sport not war of the 18th century
@patrickjunger8706 3 ай бұрын
No you gave the reason for ippon by pinning. Ippon by throwing on the back (with control and force) is a replacement for throwing on the head/back. Idea is that if you have a lot of control you could throw him on the neck and end the fight for real if you wanted to.
@sirbalanced5486 3 ай бұрын
Jiujitsu…time & time again has proven to be the most dominant.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
Definitely in different rule sets - in a 1 v 1 fight with no striking, no doubt :) Beyond that though, all things matter.
@kasperfesselmller4028 3 ай бұрын
In fighting with strikes, did you know that the ufc was testing this in the beginning of the sport!
@7dollarproductions 3 ай бұрын
In a real fight, one slamming judo throw almost always ends the fight. Still, BJJ is excellent for controlling someone on the ground and breaking their bones with leverage or strangling them to unconsciousness. Grappling martial artists should remember that the ground is very hard and can have hazards such as broken glass, and that other people can stomp you while you’re tied up with an enemy. Plus, some people are disgusting or bleeding biohazards and you wouldn’t want to be in much close contact with them. For these reasons, a full blast judo throw and if necessary a quick submission on the ground may be generally preferable in a real fight. Controversially, BJJ’s gentle control on the ground until authorities arrive, or reaching a submission in a prolonged 1v1 grappling situation may be more appropriate. It’s always situation dependent.
@sirbalanced5486 3 ай бұрын
@@7dollarproductions out of the hundred or two fights I’ve personally seen or been a part of (private security for a night club) 90% of them went to the ground in some way shape or form. Most of those were from non wrestlers or guys with 0 grappling experience.
@kasperfesselmller4028 2 ай бұрын
@@7dollarproductions yeah, street fighting is different. Most martial arts don't work against knifes or guns, or in a one versus multiple people sernario, but jiujitsu does judo and wrestling aswell, better than what I feel like the other sports lack. If someone shoots double on you in the streets it's nice to know how to choke him out and stand up or just stand up. Everything works on untrained people, I just think jiujitsu with the right focus on real life is best. Takedowns, sweeps, strangles, getups, reversals, backtakes.
@CWST87 3 ай бұрын
Martial arts that become sports with rule sets defeat the purpose of its original real world intent.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
You're not wrong.
@凸Bebo凸 3 ай бұрын
He is wrong, if you get Ipponed on the battlefield someone comes up to you and stabs you with a spear on the ground. That's why Ippon exists, lol.
@CWST87 3 ай бұрын
@凸Bebo凸 ippon is for sport. No one keeping score on a battlefield.
@凸Bebo凸 3 ай бұрын
@@CWST87 No, if you get pinned or slammed on your back on the battlefield you get stabbed up. Ippon is for simulating the battlefield conditions. It's cool to pretend BJJ is more hard core than Judo when you can only do BJJ, but it's just cope. You didn't do takedowns when you were 15 years old and rubbery, maybe next life butt scoot.
@loristnorton3723 3 ай бұрын
@@CWST87Martial artists at a high enough level know how to use their skills without the rules. Trust me. The rules are there so they won't kill each other on live tv.
@DreX-8810 3 ай бұрын
Not to mention , Judo curriculums & Wrestling curriculums are being implemented in Bjj curriculums like the school I go to OSS !
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
And the other way around!
@Silence-and-Violence 3 ай бұрын
And all the collegiate wrestlers are running to BJJ when their college careers are over and they realize there's nothing left for them there.
@IamDude2 3 ай бұрын
💯
@Hazama91350 3 ай бұрын
You can say whatever you want, but a judo practitioner who start bjj will have a better progression than a "bjj" guy cause they already have the standing game AND NEWAZA but the bjj guy who is starting will have nothing. Judo all day.
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
Anyone who starts any grappling sport with any prior grappling experience has an advantage. What's your point your trying to make?
@GMunoz-oj5zb 3 ай бұрын
It takes on average 10 years to get a black belt in bjj and half that to get it in judo . Your assessment is innacurate
@TonyqTNT 3 ай бұрын
MAKE STRIKING GREAT AGAIN!!!
@The-Black-Militant 3 ай бұрын
@@GMunoz-oj5zbIf I'm correct, I do believe the average time to get a black belt in judo varies by school. Was told it can take up to 8 years, 5 if you're really aggressive about it.
@ashleyalexander7388 3 ай бұрын
In bjj, you start in the ground and scoot on your butt 😂😂😂
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
I'll butt scoot all day. But I'm also a black belt in judo and have 15+ years wrestling experience
@JackDaniels-eg3cf 3 ай бұрын
Bjj > every grappling art
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
Perspective! I don't disagree, but it is debatable, and personal.
@brahamwijaya1039 3 ай бұрын
In judo when they slam u full pwer. U get concused, sleep, etc...
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
Getting hit with the earth doesn't feel good
@Karen-fs6lf 3 ай бұрын
The rules in judo is to push the pace to cut down on stalling.your analogy is correct i have been doing for 30 years love it also much live for bjj
@dsano4714 3 ай бұрын
I also prefer judo for the no stalling. I find it much more enjoyable to find a throw than to find a submission
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
I hear you, but it was awesome when you could attack with the legs, they removed a big part of the sport! Thoughts on that?
@jcc1095 3 ай бұрын
@@utopiawi Thank the IOC for that. The majority of Judoka were not in favor for this change in 2011/2012.
@Karen-fs6lf 3 ай бұрын
@utopiawi I was lucky I fought with those 30 years in judo does change the game would like them back
@stepmothership6455 3 ай бұрын
Fights under judo rules are also limited to 5 Minutes before it goes to the decision. So it makes sense for the rest of the ruleset to push the pace as well.
@NotN8 3 ай бұрын
catch wrestling has the best ruleset to train both forceful takedowns and newaza / rolling / ground submissions. The only dumb thing is pinning counts as a win
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
I think immobilization is pretty neat of a rule to play within a rule set.
@dirtygeazer9266 3 ай бұрын
This is why collegiate wrestling has the best takedowns you aren't scored if you throw them and they land but bounce up or if they scramble after a trip i get you can end a fight if they land hard but if you can no doubt take them down hold them they can't get up without use of excessive dangerous force that's amazing application to court and means you have more carry over to life
@robertsadler6055 3 ай бұрын
Bro, you're right. Friendly advice: the use of full stops will elevate your explanation. I really don't mean this in a shitty way, I'm really trying to add to your explanation ❤
@dirtygeazer9266 3 ай бұрын
@@robertsadler6055 I do when I feel like it's really hard to understand my point
@utopiawi 3 ай бұрын
@@robertsadler6055 I also was having challenges reading that! I do get the point though. Its good!