Milk Trains Through Aramoho
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3 жыл бұрын
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@singningwongho
@singningwongho 12 күн бұрын
Good video and some nice shots around Wanganui. It is a shame we can’t have steam power for the entire trip, but having something is definit Better than having nothing 😀
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi 12 күн бұрын
Greetings. Thanks for your comments. There may come a time when there will be less steam-qualified loco men, and diesel-electric heritage units have a greater share of the excursion work. The train in the video would have been overweight for a single loco. I think having a push-pull arrangement gave the organizer greater flexibility undertaking their shedual
@singningwongho
@singningwongho 12 күн бұрын
Well done marky great video. Good to see these old NZR markings. You have some very good shots in this video. That south Rangitikei viaduct and the shot you get were fantastic. Keep it up 😀
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi 12 күн бұрын
@singningwongho your back again. Yes indeed, we live in a scenic country. All this within a short distance. The South Rangitiki shot was not quite perfect: the camera was not quite focused properly on the train. Beside my location is a top-dressing air strip. Just minutes before, a plane had been just next to the fence line getting loaded
@tonymercer7759
@tonymercer7759 12 күн бұрын
may I suggest that periodic drone footage would give the viewer a better perspective of where the train was on its climb and descent. The diagrams don't convey that .
@peterscandlyn
@peterscandlyn 13 күн бұрын
That set went your way too Mark didn't it? Have a notion I saw it returning East recently - had been down South and hadn't realised it was was excursion-ing. You've some great shots in there - thanks for your work.
@zanegracie39
@zanegracie39 13 күн бұрын
Nice video Mark, steady camera work, can learn from you.
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi 13 күн бұрын
@zanegracie39 thanks Zane. Some parts have been run through a stabilizing programme. Also, Some of it was too wobbly (like the bunnythorp dips lead-in) and was cut out altogether. Next time we do that route, I will aim the camera differently following lessons learned here
@game-azing
@game-azing 17 күн бұрын
The first time I heard the DL horns (which was this video), I immediately thought: "Who the heck thought it would be a nice-sounding horn???" I can say without no doubt, the Leslie RS2M horn is the best sounding horn in this world.
@game-azing
@game-azing 17 күн бұрын
0:53 was that angry-sounding grumbling emitting from the train struggling to climb the slight grade, or was it from nearby passing cars?
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi 16 күн бұрын
The grumble came from the loco, then you can hear wheel slip soon after as well
@josephkarl2061
@josephkarl2061 27 күн бұрын
6:45 What a beautiful sight 💯
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi 23 күн бұрын
yes, that sort of meeting is unique to Whanganui!
@johnrauner2515
@johnrauner2515 Ай бұрын
GVR have come a long way. Amazing to see all the new equipment in action. Be interesting to see what they do with the SD's and SA's.
@josnagels8038
@josnagels8038 Ай бұрын
RM31 Railcar still looks modern despite being built (in NZ) in 1939, in fact it is my hope RM 31 is a futuristic beacon of things to come, albeit- electrified! NZ needs to move into 21st Century and regain its passenger rail transit and prioritise robust, efficient rail services - above the 1950’s fragile roading liability-actually 40% taxpayer subsidised
@TheSonic10160
@TheSonic10160 Күн бұрын
Where do you get the number for 40% subsidised? I'd love to be able to confidently bandy it about
@sharnesmithmaoate
@sharnesmithmaoate Ай бұрын
❤❤Grateful Ancestor past before me thank you for showing me life
@terminallydrunk1900
@terminallydrunk1900 3 ай бұрын
Must of got hit so hard.
@LindaCooper-i3f
@LindaCooper-i3f 4 ай бұрын
It deserves to be on the screens of the cinemas, and even the spirits of those lost in the tragedy cry out from beyond that the story needs to be on cinema screens.
@elintrepidomoncho2779
@elintrepidomoncho2779 2 ай бұрын
El filme se llama Tangiwai : a Love Story (2011)
@LindaCooper-i3f
@LindaCooper-i3f 2 ай бұрын
That was made-for-tv in New Zealand 🇳🇿. What we need is to get a cinematic version made under the circumstances of the dilemma.
@elintrepidomoncho2779
@elintrepidomoncho2779 2 ай бұрын
@@LindaCooper-i3f ahondar más en lo sucedido te refieres? Sí, puede ser, he leído que fue una gran tragedia.
@MichaelCotgrove-od8re
@MichaelCotgrove-od8re 6 ай бұрын
If u could get more traction engine videos than me great
@anthony851
@anthony851 6 ай бұрын
Cool video and that the loco engineers got involved as well. Anthony
@Yellow_iron_and_spanners
@Yellow_iron_and_spanners 6 ай бұрын
very well done video but not much of my little red tractor I see!
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi 6 ай бұрын
Maybe next year!
@albertotognoni4819
@albertotognoni4819 6 ай бұрын
Ouch fire and loco down
@albertotognoni4819
@albertotognoni4819 6 ай бұрын
Fonterra whareroa produces a lot for export even when the milk peak is over
@albertotognoni4819
@albertotognoni4819 6 ай бұрын
After 25 years of service my current age these OM tanks have reached the end of their operative Life
@albertotognoni4819
@albertotognoni4819 6 ай бұрын
The tank isotainers are more practical: you can lift one out of the wagon for cleaning instead with the old OM tank wagon that you Need remove from service by brinhghing it in a rail accessible facility. A container can be put on to a truck for a road tank wash facility
@albertotognoni4819
@albertotognoni4819 6 ай бұрын
Ouch a locomotive malfunctioned right in the wrong spot
@albertotognoni4819
@albertotognoni4819 6 ай бұрын
Still 2022 milk trains runs to whareroa, the locos with all that milk are working hard
@albertotognoni4819
@albertotognoni4819 6 ай бұрын
There is Still an overflow of milk in palmerston North that paiatua cannot process? i read that those with the new milk powder production line at paiathua had stopped the need to ship the excess milk that can't process in the parmeston north to the fonterra whareroa plant
@MrSpliffy2
@MrSpliffy2 7 ай бұрын
Saw it today between picton & blenheim
@shanevickers1654
@shanevickers1654 8 ай бұрын
Now this is just awesome to watch... thank you for the coverage including comms...
@MrJohnsmovies
@MrJohnsmovies 9 ай бұрын
Cool video I was on the bridge but to far away
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi 9 ай бұрын
Yes, myself & Zane have watched your video not long after it was uploaded. We noted your location. I had given thought to that Cobham Bridge vantage point on the day, but realised it was going to be hard to get from the bridge to the table in the short amount of time given.
@zanegracie39
@zanegracie39 9 ай бұрын
Another good video Mark, something for the petrol heads and railway buffs.
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi 9 ай бұрын
Ever noticed railway enthusiasts are, on-the-whole, dedicated youtubers as well? There is not much 2024 street drags on KZbin, but the RiverCity Express is well represented.
@magicalgirlsanimepink4226
@magicalgirlsanimepink4226 9 ай бұрын
Olsztyn Szczytno
@magicalgirlsanimepink4226
@magicalgirlsanimepink4226 9 ай бұрын
Olsztyn Szczytno
@magicalgirlsanimepink4226
@magicalgirlsanimepink4226 9 ай бұрын
Olsztyn Szczytno
@singningwongho
@singningwongho 10 ай бұрын
Nice video Marky. I watched with my boy and he loved counting all the wagons and loved seeing the 4 DL locos together. Nice piece of track following the contours of the land.
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi 10 ай бұрын
Well thankyou Singningwongho. I too like to count the wagons. I do this each day. Then the following day I try to better my score. The 4 DLs were a surprise; in fact that whole train snuck up with little warning. I tried to show my little daughter the video but she kept saying 'Paw Patrol'
@albertotognoni4819
@albertotognoni4819 6 ай бұрын
Four locos means that train Is very heavy and two locos on the westmere with all of the wagons in pull are not enough
@zanegracie39
@zanegracie39 10 ай бұрын
What a nice video, well edited.
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi 10 ай бұрын
Thankyou Zane. What I did not show was the sunburn endured!
@margaretroselle8610
@margaretroselle8610 10 ай бұрын
Great viewing. Thank you!
@peterscandlyn
@peterscandlyn Жыл бұрын
Interesting pick up, thanks for showing.
@dx5051
@dx5051 Жыл бұрын
cool catch
@vernonsaayman9741
@vernonsaayman9741 Жыл бұрын
Noise in the cab,?
@sw6188
@sw6188 Ай бұрын
Which noise? There are a few. 🤣
@tonymckeage1028
@tonymckeage1028 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Mark, to my eye it was 2 Fonterra trains (Hawera) and one Local (Whanganui) thanks for sharing
@terrybrown8539
@terrybrown8539 Жыл бұрын
I lived in Wanganui between 1984 and 1987. I recall the local Labour MP saying he'd resign if the workshops closed. They did but he didn't. I also recall a bloke buying the workshops with much fan fare but not being able to turn a profit on the purchase and eventually paying the price. Locals will know who he was.
@singningwongho
@singningwongho Жыл бұрын
Nice footage Marky. Good to get up close and get these shots.
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi Жыл бұрын
... at least I was not biking on the railway lines!
@peterfinucane8122
@peterfinucane8122 Жыл бұрын
​@@MarkSeconi were the MTB riders on the way back from Matipo Park?
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi Жыл бұрын
​@peterfinucane8122 the first rider was doing a circuit through Matipo Park & up the boundary etc. Went around every 15mins or so. The second rider appeared right there and then. I held my breath and then relaxed when I knew the rider was aware of the train. There are two closed level grade crossings hidden in the video. The upper one was occasionally used until 1991 by forestry logging crews & council workers with spray-units mounted on 4wd utilities. The lower crossing was formally closed in recent years. A road access bridge has slumped into a creek and has not been replaced. Also KiwiRail felt the crossing had poor visibility and it was closed. There has been a discussion about the construction of an underpass, but this is seen as an expense that local rate payers may struggle supporting.
@RUMBALman4downunder
@RUMBALman4downunder Жыл бұрын
Great footage Mark, Thats me driving in both directions. 👋
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi Жыл бұрын
@RUMBALman4downunder hi: thankyou for the comment. I hope KiwiRail holds together well and remains strong into the future.
@peterscandlyn
@peterscandlyn Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark! Been hoping someone would come through after I spotted them on Tuesday or Wednesday from my house. Not seen them closely, they almost look forklift-able?
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi Жыл бұрын
Hi. I assume they are a stock-standard 'off the shelf' designed ISO tank. They are probably forkliftable only when empty. Each tank is 24000Lt. So a two tank wagon is 2000Lt shy of the capacity of an old OM class wagon. In the off season, they would probably get grounded at Palmy railyard, and the wagon would remain in revenue earning service. It's good to see the MNPL being busy during the dairy season. Apparently the Milk Traffic starts on Oct 15th and finishes after 8 weeks
@peterscandlyn
@peterscandlyn Жыл бұрын
@@MarkSeconi Thanks Mark - that all sounds likely. Shame that season is so short. Will keep an eye on the start time, cheers.
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi Жыл бұрын
​@peterscandlyn the new seasons milk trains started today (Monday 9th October)
@peterscandlyn
@peterscandlyn Жыл бұрын
@@MarkSeconi Mark, yes, thank you. Slaving away in the yard and popped my head up as the Fonterra trian went by - sure enough.
@albertotognoni4819
@albertotognoni4819 6 ай бұрын
​@@MarkSeconithis is smart, out the tankcontainers from the wagons when the peak milk is over.
@tonymckeage1028
@tonymckeage1028 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Mark, Fonterra are great to keep those trucks off SH3 Thanks for sharing
@peterscandlyn
@peterscandlyn Жыл бұрын
Maybe but that there's not been recommencement of log trains kinda points me to Kiwirail have had a rethink on pricing?
@tonymckeage1028
@tonymckeage1028 Жыл бұрын
@@peterscandlyn fonterra can be pretty cunning on contract renegotiation I remember asking a fonterra employee why there were so many trucks on the road (unbranded) he just made the comment that the kiwi rail contract is up for renegotiation!! It’s also useful to point out that those tanks go to Hawera full in a train with often empty coda wagons and containers! The reverse is true on the return trip! At one point the Hawera milk factory was the largest in the southern hemisphere!
@tonymckeage1028
@tonymckeage1028 Жыл бұрын
@@peterscandlyn I'm pretty sure that Fonterra is Kiwirails biggest customer by some distance, I had a conversation with a Fonterra employee and he said all the product going for export goes to a warehouse in Hamilton (just north of) and the vast majority is sent on to the ports of Auckland
@peterscandlyn
@peterscandlyn Жыл бұрын
@@tonymckeage1028 Thanks Tony although don't think there's anything you said I wasn't aware of already, cheers.
@peterscandlyn
@peterscandlyn Жыл бұрын
@@tonymckeage1028 Yeah I'd imagine they are Tony. What you said supports their desire to reopen the Stratford line north, be a lot more efficient for them,. Shame about those logs though....cheers.
@tonymckeage1028
@tonymckeage1028 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Mark, Nice to see the Train cruising along the Castlecliff Line, thanks for sharing
@thedublorailway3803
@thedublorailway3803 Жыл бұрын
I must get hold of this book. Between the ages of about four and six when I was in Wanganui I used to wander along to the workshops and talk to the men working there. I remember them all being very nice to me and one even offered me a Ka he was working on because it was due to be scrapped in the near future. My mother wasn't sure that it would fit in the back yard. Health and safety not being such a big deal 60 years ago I was not the only young enthusiast to show up to nose about. I feel very lucky to have been able to do so.
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for sharing your memories. I was a child of the 1980's and deregulation, restructuring and closing down of factories across many sectors made for a hard time in Wanganui. There was many a grim discussion between the adults over the family dinner table when I was a child. Both my grandfathers worked at East Town, Joseph Hoey (a fitter and turner) and Tom Seconi (paint shop). Many of our neighbours were railwaymen, so I naturally took an interest in the Wanganui East railscene. In this video, Ive included clips of passing container trains. It shows that railfreight is still on the move, but the freight is carried in modern ISO shipping containers and not in old-fashioned wooden 4-wheel wagons, a type of which used to be maintained at East Town. One thing I learned from the book, is that East Town was constantly threatened by change; there are two or three occassions in it's hundred year history where it could have been packed up and had its activities transfired elsewhere in New Zealand
@jamieshotter3655
@jamieshotter3655 Жыл бұрын
My grandad did his appearanceship in East Town workshop as he flowed his father working on the railways and then he worked in Taranaki till he retired
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi Жыл бұрын
Everybody knows New Zealand suffered when its Apprentiship schemes were restructured. This is still being felt today
@tonymckeage1028
@tonymckeage1028 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Mark! interesting you seem to have the unside info on train movements around wanganui! thanks for sharing
@cpmproductionsltd8305
@cpmproductionsltd8305 Жыл бұрын
Was this the last train on the branch?
@MarkSeconi
@MarkSeconi Жыл бұрын
Yes. The last KiwiRail freight service was in 2012. Then Da 1431 hauled a six car excursion on the branch on Nov 1st 2014. In the last ten years, the Kapuni Branch has only seen trains hauled by vintage locomotives
@tonymckeage1028
@tonymckeage1028 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Mark, especially important since the recent Cyclone, which has broken the link between hastings and napier, thanks for sharing
@tonymckeage1028
@tonymckeage1028 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Mark, Two engines seems a bit OTT, especially one being a DL but in the circumstances, thanks for sharing
@tonymckeage1028
@tonymckeage1028 Жыл бұрын
Maggy Barry and Rob McAlpine, thanks for sharing
@tonymckeage1028
@tonymckeage1028 Жыл бұрын
This is obscene and tragic, drivers need to understand they are 100% responsible if they drive onto a crossing with a train comeing, thanks for sharing
@tonymckeage1028
@tonymckeage1028 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Mark, a great piece of history here, thanks for sharing
@tonymckeage1028
@tonymckeage1028 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Mark, I've seen this machine both IRL and on Video. Interesting see it find a defect and the crew get onto it, thanks for sharing