How to go from good to great Pt1
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@agentofchaos2764
@agentofchaos2764 13 күн бұрын
Please making videos about TV.
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 13 күн бұрын
Okay. I have pitched to a BBC dev. I can talk about that. Thanks.
@TheBeardedScreenwriter
@TheBeardedScreenwriter 15 күн бұрын
The spiral is a great visualization!
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 15 күн бұрын
Thanks Beardy. I appreciate the support.
@NothingReallyMattersInTheEnd
@NothingReallyMattersInTheEnd 15 күн бұрын
Pls add the subtitles for me because English is my second language my native language is hindi...it's lil bit difficult to understand the Australian accent....easy to understand in Indian accent
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 15 күн бұрын
@@NothingReallyMattersInTheEnd okay. I’ll start with the next video. Thank you for the feedback
@NothingReallyMattersInTheEnd
@NothingReallyMattersInTheEnd 15 күн бұрын
@CraigGriffiths tell me about screenwriting teach me screenwriting screenplay I want to learn ....put the subtitles in the video and make me a movie screenwriter...I have written 175 of outline so far for a movie but it needs to be transformed into the script format....right now it's in novel format or paragraphical format....so pls do that thanks in advance
@gutenbug4212
@gutenbug4212 21 күн бұрын
... and then, I come here to this specific video and, seated at my desk, I begin to write a comment using my nice keyboard: "Nice tips. I like that metaphors tip - very useful. Thanks" 🙂
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 21 күн бұрын
Thank you. That is great to hear. I have been putting out videos for a while. My aim is to help writers as well as learn something about my writing and myself. Thank you again for your comment. It is appreciated greatly.
@danieldehlin67
@danieldehlin67 25 күн бұрын
Love these tools! Thanks so much! Will there be a lesson 3?
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 25 күн бұрын
I am working on some new tools for a second edition. I will do a third lesson in a few weeks. Thank you for the comment. This interaction help KZbin figure of there is value and the audience that may like these videos.
@danieldehlin67
@danieldehlin67 25 күн бұрын
First tool - PESTEL analysis P - Political E - Economic S - Social T - Technological E - Environmental L - Legal Put down what you know about these things and it will describe your world. Second tool - Empathy matrix: Used to understand what a character's potentinal actions might be in response to a story situation. What has this character said in the past about this situation? What have they done about this situation? What have they seen in this situation, as a whole? What have they heard about this situation? What do they feel about this situation? Is this situation good for them or bad for them? Helps you understand your character down to a single scene. Third tool - goal and conflict mapping Draw a line down a page. In one column write down everything the character wants. In the other write down everything stopping them from getting it.
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 25 күн бұрын
Second video pulls a lot of that together. These tools are all things I have learnt and use in my previous Intelligence career. I roll these tools out when I get stuck.
@jordangloss
@jordangloss 27 күн бұрын
Very cool. Thanks!
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 27 күн бұрын
Thank you. So glad you liked it. I hope video 2 is helpful as well.
@leosearle
@leosearle Ай бұрын
Excellent info, well presented as usual. Thank you. 👍
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths Ай бұрын
Thanks Leo. I promise to get your name right when mention you. 😂
@TomWilton
@TomWilton Ай бұрын
Always good advice.
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths Ай бұрын
@@TomWilton Thank you. It is always hard to find the basics when you are just starting out in any field.
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 Ай бұрын
Some valuable information there. Thanks Craig!
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths Ай бұрын
Thank you for the feedback Matthew. It is hard to find topics and information that can deliver some benefit. Thank you again.
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 Ай бұрын
@@CraigGriffiths You're very welcome. I'm about to copyright a screenplay and I'm deciding who I should register it with. Do you have a preference?
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths Ай бұрын
Most things are covered by international treaty. If you are looking at the American market, library of congress is the offical register as far as I know. The WGA has a register as well, they are a very powerful union in the industry. I have registered with them previously. Check their website and see what they offer.
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 Ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths Thanks Craig!
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 Ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths What happens if you register a screenplay and then make some minor alterations to it? Would the altered version be covered?
@WriteLisaWrite
@WriteLisaWrite Ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video, Craig!
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths Ай бұрын
@@WriteLisaWrite thank you Lisa. It is nice to see people appreciate these videos. I am thinking of doing a video on rewrite action. Thank you again.
@valkry007
@valkry007 Ай бұрын
Hollywood is dead. It has been full infiltrated by the leftists and communist. They are incapable of making anything where they don't try injecting their leftist agenda in the movie somehow, be overtly or subversively. Any enemy of Hollywood is a friend of mine.
@leosearle
@leosearle Ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I like your presentation style and way of speaking. Relaxing, which helps me absorb the information you are delivering, as well as being pleasant to listen to your softly spoken words. 💯 PS: You got my subscribe and Like 🙂
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths Ай бұрын
Thank you for both. I am glad you liked the style of the video. That is pretty standard for the channel. My voice may have been slightly softer than normal, had a bit of asthma that day. But I don’t get much louder. Next video goes up tomorrow. I hope it helps. Thanks again for helping out the channel. It is really appreciated.
@TheBeardedScreenwriter
@TheBeardedScreenwriter Ай бұрын
Thanks for your tips much appreciated!
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths Ай бұрын
Thank you for the comment fellow bearded one. I think tips are the best way of get information out and about. It enables people to take bite size bits as they need. Thanks again.
@Blackwingk
@Blackwingk Ай бұрын
While writing conversations, I always try to find a balance between it being either too cheesy and melodramatic or too..."gritty"...I don't know if that makes sense when I say it "aloud"...but I hope you understood 😂...yeah, I always overthink things. Thank you for the tips, sir; they really helped.
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths Ай бұрын
@@Blackwingk I heard someone say that great dialogue doesn’t need the character name above it. That each character should be so distinctive that just reading their dialogue tells you who they are. I don’t know if I am at that level. Balancing the cheesy/grit factor is hard. The Fast and The Furious (in my opinion) are kings of that.
@Blackwingk
@Blackwingk 2 ай бұрын
As always, you've been a big help, sir. To be clear, I'm not writing a screenplay but a sci-fi novel. Your advice has been priceless for me, regardless.
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. That is a very kind thing to say. As artists we all learn together. In the last year, just thinking about these videos has forced me to learn more. Excited about the novel. If it gets up online. Share a link and I’ll definitely share on the channel.
@Blackwingk
@Blackwingk 2 ай бұрын
This was the advice I needed. I thank you for this, sir, and I look forward to more of your videos. Liked and subscribed.
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. I am so glad it was helpful. If you want any topics discussed, please let me know. If I cannot help, I’ll a channel that can.
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 2 ай бұрын
I always ask the same questions of my antagonist that I do of my protagonist. Who are they? What do they want? Why do they want it? What will be the consequences if they don't get it? Being evil for the the sake of evil makes no logical sense. There needs to be a rationale behind it, even if it's morally wrong.
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. So many people don’t understand that an antagonist needs to be a fully formed character. Thanks for the comment.
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 2 ай бұрын
@@CraigGriffiths That's why the first thing I do when I begin a screenplay is answer all the essential questions of my protagonist and antagonist. I find that once I have the answers it provides enough information to then write a logline. Then I do the outline.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 2 ай бұрын
I am more free form. I’ll start with an idea or a question. Then I try to find a way to look at that. Then I need characters. I’ll normally have a protagonist. But nothing starts to work until I get the antagonist in place.
@themarekch
@themarekch 2 ай бұрын
I see some film festivals are now saying no IA scripts allowed. Or anything made in AI.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 2 ай бұрын
I 100% agree. It would be like me saying a ran a marathon, but I was driving a car.
@themarekch
@themarekch 2 ай бұрын
Great information 👍 some interesting points.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 2 ай бұрын
Thanks. All industries grow and contract. This does not mean they are dying. I see the idea of centralised power being tied to a location changing.
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 2 ай бұрын
Great advice!
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Matthew. This videos has done nothing. Shows what a title can do… This one just didn’t catch people’s interest.
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 2 ай бұрын
@@CraigGriffiths I used to waste a lot of time agonising over the title in the planning phase. Now I just give it a temporary working title, simply for reference. I find that it's better to title your screenplay once you've finished it because at that point you're clear on what the story's about, so you can title it accordingly.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 2 ай бұрын
I usually end up with a “The” something. The Hostage, The Valley…
@JoshuaLoganjoshuadlogan
@JoshuaLoganjoshuadlogan 2 ай бұрын
Hey Craig! Great video.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. Not a popular topic. But if I wanted popular all my videos would be call “7 secrets to success in hollywood”.😂😂
@DDumbrille
@DDumbrille 3 ай бұрын
Craig, a 'RECOMMEND' will indeed carry some weight when sending out queries. Having said that, it's highly unlikely anyone would get one in the first place.
@DDumbrille
@DDumbrille 3 ай бұрын
Also, AI is already available ONLINE so one doesn't have to use an AI 'service' -- which no sane person would use in the first place.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 3 ай бұрын
A recommend only carries weight if it comes from someone with credibility. There are so many people offering notes, that credibility is uncommon.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 3 ай бұрын
I have been using it commercially in business for years. But people are now targeting the coverage sector.
@blackman7437
@blackman7437 3 ай бұрын
>Taking money from a parasitic industry and giving it to another parasitic industry I'm not sure this is the win you think it is.
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 3 ай бұрын
Change can never be great for everyone. A.I. is a horrible thing in a creative world for so many reasons, you are correct there. But it will be less likely to exploit. People will get bored with it. Then, I hope, that people will really study and learn the craft.
@Sky-yj8wx
@Sky-yj8wx 3 ай бұрын
Great video. I can’t seem to access the google doc. Thanks so much
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 3 ай бұрын
@@Sky-yj8wx thank you for your comment. Let me chase the doc down and I will post a link here for you. Sorry it did work.
@AnnieRegret
@AnnieRegret 4 ай бұрын
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Annie.
@FernasRPG
@FernasRPG 4 ай бұрын
I would say Star Wars is Fantasy set in a futuristic Tech. Is not a Sci Fi because it doesnt have any intention of making that tech makes sense.
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 4 ай бұрын
@@FernasRPG That is a really good point. That maybe what people refer to as “soft SciFi” (I have heard “hard scifi” so soft must be an option…lol). SciFi as a setting. I think there are more of these style stories. I could write that style, but some heavy tech may be a bridge too far for me. Thanks for the comment.
@FernasRPG
@FernasRPG 4 ай бұрын
@@CraigGriffiths I am writing a hard sci fi novel and getting tech, astronomy straight. It is demanding, but fantasy can be demanding as well, just look what G RR Martin did with medieval times. So in the end it just how the world works. If it is fantasy, supernatural should be the basis of the world: Tolkien, George Martin, JK Rowling, Narnia and of course Star Wars. The core of the story is based on gods and spirituality. But SCI Fi to me is when uses tech as tool for "magic". Star Trek, Mass Effect and Starcraft for example uses tech to explain how things work. Religion and supernatural are there, but they are not the core of the universe. But in the end what really matters are the characthers.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 4 ай бұрын
@FernasRPG character is king within a good story. When it comes to world building I use PESTEL (shameless self promotion), it is a chapter in my book. Political, Economic, Social, Tech, Environmental, Legal. If you understand these elements of a world, you can write about it in a logical and coherent way.
@FernasRPG
@FernasRPG 4 ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths I started mine with cultural/values. What these societies values more as basic principles for their existence. When this is established I go for how these manifests in terms of Politics, Economics, Army, Legal, etc.
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 4 ай бұрын
@@FernasRPG I lump those into social. I start with the biggest part of the world. If it was a military dictatorship, then legal etc may fill my mind. Logic in a world is all important. In the Japanese film “weather girl” two woman fight over the job of weather girl on a TV station. In the last scene, for no reason, they are suddenly magical and can fly around the studio throw spells at each other WTF. I think what we do would at least make our writing logical and consistent. Thanks for engage with the content, it is great to chat with writers.
@mparvin77
@mparvin77 4 ай бұрын
Keep talking in musical terms. You summed up everry screenwriting course in this video!
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 4 ай бұрын
@@mparvin77 Thank you. That is an amazing compliment. I do tend to think in music terms. I am doing another video today. I am making a music reference in that. Thank you again.
@stillbuyvhs
@stillbuyvhs 5 ай бұрын
You can get value out of a blueprint; if you couldn't, architects wouldn't get paid.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 5 ай бұрын
Massive value. So much of civilisation exists because of blueprint and the efforts of architects, engineers and trades people. There is beauty in much of their work, but primarily utility. A screenplay has the same but in an opposite ratio.
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 5 ай бұрын
I would say that the two most important things are: 1- The rules that you set up (internal logic) must not be broken. 2 - The ideas must be easily understandable. You don't want to confuse the reader/audience. Science can be extraordinarily complicated and complex, but when it comes to storytelling, keep it simple.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 5 ай бұрын
I cannot agree more. I feel I am constantly babbling about “internal logic”. I think I would get lost in the weeds of science. Probably why I avoid Sci-Fi.
@matthewlavagna6080
@matthewlavagna6080 5 ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths I always aim for clarity, so I try to avoid writing anything complex, confusing or complicated. I'm open to writing a sci fi story, but it would have to be something straight forward.
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 5 ай бұрын
@@matthewlavagna6080 I like complexity in a story. But if done poorly it can easily become confusion. I am current rewrite a screenplay because the two people that read it missed the major underlying world element. So I need a better way to explain it.
@TheBeardedScreenwriter
@TheBeardedScreenwriter 5 ай бұрын
I wish I could write Sci-fi but it's so hard to come up with an interesting/original concept I find WITHOUT losing oneself in the science or sacrificing character arcs for the sake of action. Or maybe I just suck at Sci Fi! Lol. Great Video Craig!
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 5 ай бұрын
Hi Bearded, I know what you mean, it is a different type of thinking. Every time I have tried, I end up just doing SciFi as a setting. Making “Hard SciFi” is beyond my brain. I heard Elon Musk make a statement about 2001. He said (in a nutshell) “don’t make AI lie” kzbin.info8vwi_mUt66I?si=NXtpTUkO_71QU6LX HAL (the computer) was told to protect a secret and take the people to the site. Therefore he had to kill them to achieve it. That sort of thinking is something I cannot achieve. Thanks for the comment.
@TheBeardedScreenwriter
@TheBeardedScreenwriter 5 ай бұрын
Always appreciate your videos Craig!
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 5 ай бұрын
Thank Bearded, that very nice of you to say. I hope I can keep delivery value with these. Thanks again.
@bishaladhikari3482
@bishaladhikari3482 5 ай бұрын
nice👍
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. The Wednesday videos are always fun. Looking at questions I see online. 👍👍
@astynwebb
@astynwebb 5 ай бұрын
Always enjoy the videos! Thank you!! My problem is I have so many ideas and never know which to choose to focus on, I’ll choose one for a bit then find myself drifting to others, then often back to the previous one!
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 5 ай бұрын
I am always writing a few things at once. I have the main things I am doing. But I find I need my holiday pieces. A bit of work I can visit when my brain reads a break. Currently that is a Sherlock Holmes screenplay. It will never sell, but I enjoy writing it.
@jujupedals3430
@jujupedals3430 5 ай бұрын
you and other washed up writers and neverwill be's make me want to start my own youtube channel - just to show how full of crap all of you are. Show us your resume of excellent scripts that youve made and then maybe people will believe you. Until then, we're probably going to make fun of you
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 5 ай бұрын
Okay. If that floats your boat. I will subscribe and stay subscribed to your channel the minute you start. Go back, watch all the episodes and tell me when I claim anything you say I claim. I will donate $100 to a children’s hospital for each video. I appreciate the comments.
@jujupedals3430
@jujupedals3430 5 ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths I dont have a channel - I dont need a channel - those who can do, those who cant try to teach - or make youtube videos. Hey, Ill applaud you for managing to get on IMDB - but really - ask yourself this - should writers aim just to get on imdb with pieces of crap or should they aim to actually put their name behind something that showcases true ability - something they are proud of. I would have used a Pen name instead of saying I wrote that P.O.S. 'the hostage'
@jujupedals3430
@jujupedals3430 5 ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths Okay - I realize my comments might be alittle abrasive - only because I have a distain for all these youtubers that make these videos of how easy it is to write when the poster actually cant show the talents they are trying to teach about - bbut Ill take a step back and applaud you for starting a channel that ultimately might be able to help newcomers learn to improve their craft. So keep up the efforts - youll help some people - and others will definitely challenge you as I have - so learn to get thick skin or ignore the trolls. Sometimes I can go alittle overboard - and thats not my true intention but I do like to gauge a youtubers skill level. So if you want to write something, Ill write something as well - just send me the opening 10 pages of your The Hostage script and Ill show you an improved version of that when I have time. Today I was ready to write - but like I said it will only take me an hour. Monday is work time for me
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 5 ай бұрын
@@jujupedals3430 Thank you. The Hostage isn’t really mine to share, A line from the start will not be an issue for me, as I am friendly with the ProdCo owner. However, if that offer stays open. I will send you something, soon. I’ll make sure it is worth your time.
@jujupedals3430
@jujupedals3430 5 ай бұрын
Oye Ve! Tell you what - lets do this. Write out a 'winning great opening' post that, and Ill post one of my own just to show if you can actually walk the walk or if youre just talking the talk. Lets see you follow your own advice - that is if you can. Ill even help...let me think here....Openings are the easiest parts of a movie script - ANYONE can write a good one. But not everyone can finish through to the end. Challenge offered.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 5 ай бұрын
For sure. I mean you could run over the scriptrevolution.com and download some of my work. But I will write an opening for you. Any particular genre, or anything. Not quite sure what the last bit means, do you then want to finish the entire screenplay. Give me a few minutes.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 5 ай бұрын
Okay. For speed. I went and grabbed the opening of the Hostage, something I sold a while ago. EXT. STREET NEWARK - NIGHT A LATE MODEL SEDAN makes it way down a dimly lit street lined by old factories and holding yards.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 5 ай бұрын
So am I waiting for your contribution or was I the only one playing?
@jujupedals3430
@jujupedals3430 5 ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths All you did was add a slugline and one action line. Is that really your criteria for an "amazing opening"
@jujupedals3430
@jujupedals3430 5 ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths wow - your slugline and your action line - bravo. Standing O "this is riveting!" I cant wait to turn the page. hahaha
@jujupedals3430
@jujupedals3430 5 ай бұрын
How TF you going to try to dare to explain who will be great? Are you a producer? Are you a manager? What have you done that gives you this all seeing eye to put this "knowledge" into the ethos? Anyone could do a video about what THEY THINk makes someone great or not so great or terrible, but for every kernel you give up, Ill give you back talentless hacks who managed to overcome an inability to write that have become a true success (Patrick Duffy, Boondock Saints, Idiot who wrote Fifty Shades of Grey, among others, the stupid "The Killer' Movie) - and their writing was absolutely horrendous. Your knowledge of the inner workings of Hollywood equates to what any reddit user can muster up. So how about you stop this channel and just focus on writing great scripts. Oh wait - those that can, do, those that cant, teach. I get it
@jujupedals3430
@jujupedals3430 5 ай бұрын
Dude's trying to talk semantics. Is this the writer from that silly movie 'the hostage'? If youre talking in terms of the writing industry - a script IS a blueprint, that the producer and the director will use - plain and simple. Try making content to transform this that - and it only shows you have an inability to create better content and really arent one to be giving advice as this video is as useless as the toilet paper I cleaned my bum with yesterday. If youre going to help writers than actually help them - this is so useless - its as if you just need to pretend to appear to know what youre talking about. Write better scripts and you wouldnt need to resort to this type of excrement. Im not hating - Im just saying this "tutorial" helps no one become a better writer
@dismo36
@dismo36 5 ай бұрын
This is so true An artist I am
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the comment. Reddit doesn’t seem to think writers are artists. Which I find strange. They seem to hold two ideas. Firstly that a screenplay is nothing until it is a movie. That a screenplay is somehow incomplete. Secondly they get so upset that blueprints are not art. That I would dare suggest that an architect was not an artist. It is like they refuse to take a compliment. I am so happy that you are an artist. We need more.
@henrytjernlund
@henrytjernlund 6 ай бұрын
"Show, not tell" confuses people. I find that "describe only, don't explain" is better. But also in screenwriting people are warned to not direct the actors in the script. That is confusing too. There are some screenwriting advice that seem contradictory. If you ask on a forum you get a wide range of responses. It's confusing.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 6 ай бұрын
Who tells people “don’t direct on the page” should be fined for ‘false and misleading’ information. Our job is to paint a complete picture. Thanks for the comment.
@henrytjernlund
@henrytjernlund 6 ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths I've seen it and they also say that there is a difference between a spec script and a shooting script.
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 6 ай бұрын
@@henrytjernlund A spec needs to have every visual element needed to tell the story visually. A shooting script has every visual element. In “Little Miss Sunshine” in the screenplay it says we track down the hall behind Olive. That tells us we are following close behind Olive a small excited young girl as she runs down a hallway. In a shooting script that could go further. We track behind Olive, we end at the top of the stairs before cutting to: Reverse angle on Mum showing Olive jumping off the last two steps. Shooting script have a lot ire detail.
@henrytjernlund
@henrytjernlund 6 ай бұрын
@@CraigGriffiths Okay, the camera directions are an issue in spec scripts. But I have seen the criticism go beyond that.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 5 ай бұрын
Sorry for the late reply. The thing I find is that new writers do things bad. Like camera description. They get told to remove and the work looks better. Most new writers do this kind of stuff poorly. So the general advice becomes “don’t do it”. But if people learn to do it well. That advice goes away and readers will come to expect it.
@mymentalasylumuganda
@mymentalasylumuganda 6 ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. It is very kind of you to comment. Any suggestions of what I should call you people that watch the videos? I just say “guys” out of habit. Or is “guys” okay? Thanks again.
@ThomasTulak
@ThomasTulak 6 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, I had to pause the video to say something. It's maybe not a good idea to look at a writer's first scripts as examples of what to or not to do. The first script is often written before they learn proper formatting. Also, Quentin Tarantino is NOT a good example or proper formatting. He famously rejects proper formatting. He is on record as saying a script should be more like a novel and less like blue prints for a movie and thats simply not true. Thats precisely the opposite of what it should be. He is wrong. He is an anomaly. He is the exception that proves the rule. Everyone knows he did not go to film school, he "went to films." This means very clearly that when he wrote Reservoir Dogs he was not knowledgeable in proper formatting, and that remains true to this day. If you or I, as unknown writers, deliver to an actual producer a script with camera direction, that producer will pass on the script, assuming we don't know how to properly format a script. A screen play should not, I repeat NOT, have camera directions. that is not the job of the writer, it's the job of the director. Let the director decide what the camera should do. Instead, your job as the writer, is to write the script in such a way that you make the director do what you want them to do without them knowing you wanted them to do it! Make the director want to move the camera the way you thought it should be moved, and make them think it was their idea. You do that by writing what happens in the shot in such a way that the director (or any reader) can see it in their head when they read your words.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 6 ай бұрын
Thomas, formatting is a function of a document and not a story element. If you left justified everything, the format would be completely broken and hard to read, but the story would remain unchanged. All the camera direction examples and other things like "we see" and "reveal" are just a way of telling visual stories.
@ThomasTulak
@ThomasTulak 6 ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths you're right, formatting is a function of a document, that exactly why it exists though. That's why there is a proper and an improper way to write a script. A script is a blue print for a film, so it has very specific requirements for it's formatting. Ignoring that will just make your life more difficult in the long run. yeah, using camera directions, and things like "we see" are ways to tell the visual story... but they are the wrong way.
@ThomasTulak
@ThomasTulak 6 ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths if you just want to write a good story without worrying about formatting, then write a novel. A script is a very specific document with very specific formatting needs, and there are reasons for those needs. remember, the audience for your script is not the general public, its the production team thats making the film. those people require specific information so they can do their jobs. this is why things like blue prints are formatted in specific ways... and you need to understand that a script is a blue print for a movie.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 6 ай бұрын
@ThomasTulak let’s not get into the blueprint debate. Again, format has nothing to do with words, just word placement.
@ThomasTulak
@ThomasTulak 6 ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths sir, I don’t know what experience you have, but I have been on both the writing and production side. I have both written scripts and produced them. I released a feature on streaming earlier this very year… I can tell you, yes scripts are blue prints. The people who are making the film, the casting director, the wardrobe designer, the cinematographer, these people just need details so they can do their jobs. The script needs to make it easy for them to find the info they need. This is why formatting exists. If you think anything different then you’re handicapping yourself. And you’re incorrect, formatting includes word choice and word placement. It literally has to. However I can see you are married to your improper formatting, so I’m finished wasted my time trying to help you. You keep writing “we see” and “we’ll see” how much longer it takes for you to get produced. Good luck
@ThomasTulak
@ThomasTulak 6 ай бұрын
I mean, I'm happy it was used in the script for The Holdovers. On the other hand, I can site many scripts that don't use it. I can also site scripts that were written more like novels. (Have you read the script for Princess Bride? It seriously reads like a novel. Doesn't mean it's proper) Just because it was used in a script that was produced into a movie is not a good excuse to use it. There are always examples of improperly written scripts that get made, that doesn't justify learning bad writing habits. "We see" is redundant and therefore unnecessary... Not to mention that David Hemingson is kind of established already. If you or I, as unknown writers, present an actual producer a script with "we see" they will pass on it, with the impression that we don't know how to properly format a script. Yes, I was trying to be quick with my example, I apologize for not being thorough. Here is how I would actually write that: INT. KITCHEN - DAY JOHN stands by the counter, he does not see: outside the window, MARK and KATE kiss. You want to write what actually physically happens on the screen, which means you want to write what the characters do or do not see, not what the audience sees. The fact that it's written means the audience sees it.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 6 ай бұрын
The only thing I would ask, is it better to emulate professional produced writers or unproduced writers. No one is going to judge work based on a person’s experience. They may have expectations, or may be a fan. The work is good or not. That is not judged by the existence of two words. Bad writing is bad writing if “we see” is in there or not in there. In the “directing on the page” video released this week I give multiple examples of first time sales that contain all sort of so called “no-nos”. Thanks for the comment.
@ThomasTulak
@ThomasTulak 6 ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths in re: produced or unproduced writers... thats not the real question at hand. I can site you plenty of examples of produced scripts that do not use "we see." ...plenty of scripts with improper formatting still get made. it was just harder for it to get made. in re: good writing not judged by "we see"... True, a script is not judged good or bad based on the existence or non-existence of those two words... BUT the existence of those two words will suggest to an actual professional producer that this particular writer is inexperienced and unprofessional, giving them a reason to pass on the script. People who read scripts for producers to consider buying receive SO many scripts every day. They have piles and piles of scripts to get through. They have read TONS of scripts, and can INSTANTLY tell if the writer knows what they are doing or not. You don't want to give them a reason to put yours down. But please feel free to keep using "we see" if you feel you need to. Just be aware that you're only making things harder for yourself, unnecessarily.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 6 ай бұрын
I am afraid you have that backwards. Those two words have no weight or impact on professionalism or how work is perceived. However, having an overly complex sentence or more words than needed to avoid "we see". Will feel wrong, or like something is missing. I person (director, producer, financier) doesn't need a reason to say no. I had a financier ask a producer I was working with to change the inciting incident from a pandemic to an environmental disaster. I did the rewrite. They read it said no anyway. Of course there are probably more screenplays without "we see" than ones with "we see". But this is no proof that these screenplays are bad. I just found the most successful movies that came from "first sale specs". Most of them had "we see".
@ThomasTulak
@ThomasTulak 6 ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths You are absolutely kidding yourself if you think that "we see" won't reflect your level of professionalism, and that the reader won't pick up on that, and that won't effect their decision to keep reading or not. they still said no because they are in fact looking for reasons to say no. think about it, they have a pile of scripts to read, all at varying levels of experience, knowledge, and skill. when they can see within the first page whether the writer knows what they are doing or not, that will absolutely inform whether they want to stick with that writer for a hundred pages. it's an investment of their limited time. why would they waste their time reading a script written by someone who obviously doesn't know what they are doing? my point in saying there are more scripts that don't say "we see" was not to argue against saying "we see," but to say thats not a good argument. there are plenty of scripts that have "we see" and plenty that don't, so this is not a good argument either way... and basing what you do off a writer's first spec script is probly the worst thing you can do, because usually the first script is from BEFORE they learned proper industry formatting... wouldn't it be better to learn from a script they wrote later in their career, when they knew more what they were doing? My friend, you are making your life harder by sticking to these things. You're going to signal to people that you are inexperienced, and amateurish, that you wrote from hopes and dreams and wishes, instead of knowledge... which absolutely will make them stop reading your script... because if you don't even know proper basic formatting, then why would they think you can tell a good story? ...they won't even get far enough into your script to see the amazing story you wrote. and you're absolutely kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 5 ай бұрын
Yes, if you do it well, you will look very professional.
@mymentalasylumuganda
@mymentalasylumuganda 6 ай бұрын
This is really helpful to me as a screenwriter, been struggling on whether to add camera directions in my script. thank you
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Avoiding something that is needed can only be harmful to a project. I took a look at your channel. That is a very important topic (mental health) and it is good you are creating content in that arena.
@ThomasTulak
@ThomasTulak 6 ай бұрын
adding camera directions in your script is not only not needed, it is actually harmful. It's the director's job to decide what the camera does, not the writer. What you want to do instead is write your scene in such a way that it makes the director decide to move the camera the way you want, without the director knowing you wanted them to do it! ...Write your scene in such a way that the director can see it in their head when they read your words. Thats the mark of a good writer... If a director sees camera direction in the script they will likely throw out the direction because they will want to move the camera the way they want. Don't set yourself up for disappointment.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 6 ай бұрын
In my mind, I am not trying to get the director to do what I want. I am telling my version of the story. The director is an adult capable of making their own choices. If you listen to the BAFTA lectures, you'll hear David S Goyer say he adds things like camera direction (sparingly if you have ever read his work) to let the director know that he has thought it through and isn't writing something impossible to visualise.
@ThomasTulak
@ThomasTulak 6 ай бұрын
@@craig.d.griffiths if you're not trying to get to the director then why put camera directions, when thats the director's job? ...the job of the screen writer is NOT to think about the camera, it's to tell the story. the job of the director is to figure out how to translate that story through the camera.
@DDumbrille
@DDumbrille 6 ай бұрын
p.s. I agree...this 'we see' argument has just gotten way out of control. It's used, as you say, sparingly -- and only noticed if it isn't.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 6 ай бұрын
There are so many aspects to that as well. People cling to axioms like this as they feel secure. They don’t how to use it, so they avoid it. It would just be better to use it and learn when it was done badly. Thanks.
@DDumbrille
@DDumbrille 6 ай бұрын
Craig, you seem like a great guy, but I think you don't get a lot of traffic because people wonder what sort of experience or credits you have as a screenwriter?
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 6 ай бұрын
I have a few minor. I say that all the time. I refer to myself as “the bargain end of town”. I’ll throw my IMDB link in the notes. Thanks for this, it is something I haven’t considered. I also think the channels that do well, which isn’t really my goal, are the “5 secrets to success” or “You must have these 20 things”. I am all about writers developing their craft and then doing what they see is needed. Thanks again.
@Noah-vo6wb
@Noah-vo6wb 6 ай бұрын
"Promo sm" 🌺
@ThomasTulak
@ThomasTulak 6 ай бұрын
but... it's redundant though. Te fact that you're writing it means we see it... "Through the window, they hug." done.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 6 ай бұрын
Hi Thomas, I have included your comment in the next video. Thank you for the engagement.
@playGEMJI
@playGEMJI 6 ай бұрын
I'm surprised this channel has just a few subscribers. I got here from a Reddit thread. Hope that helps 🙌 Go Craig!
@CraigGriffiths
@CraigGriffiths 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Growth has been slow. But that is fine. I just love talking about screenwriting.
@playGEMJI
@playGEMJI 6 ай бұрын
​@@CraigGriffiths I am interested in the differences between writing a novel and a screenplay and how to write the novel so that it can be translated almost directly into a screenplay (like the Godfather). Another topic that I'm interested in is writing specifically for Sci-Fi. I'm not sure whether it's worth a whole video, but the genre is growing so a recent comment could be helpful. Respect for the perseverance 👊
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 6 ай бұрын
Can I use this for a Wednesday video?
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 6 ай бұрын
To be completely fair though, I don't think anyone has ever written a book with "we see," in it, despite how easy or practical it might be. So avoiding it can't be that much of a gymnastic feat.
@craig.d.griffiths
@craig.d.griffiths 6 ай бұрын
It is hard to find novels written in the second person narrative. I was reading to my wife once (something I do as a dyslexia exercise) and it was a novel written like that, so annoying. “You are following him down the street. Hurry, you may lose him in the crowd.” So annoying.