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@colorofspurge 6 күн бұрын
If all humans originated in Africa, then the entire world is African. Therefore, anyone living in America, should be considered African American.
@colorofspurge 6 күн бұрын
I see four different shades of BROWN on the panel. Based on their personal introductions, it sounds like their origins eat different foods, pray to different deities, and live different cultures.. Why try to lump all of these four people into one group, when they are clearly not the same? There is not such thing as a WHITE or ASIAN peoples. Japanese aren't the same as Korean. Norwegian isn't the same as German. So why should Senegal be the same as South Central?
@Americos4ever 10 күн бұрын
Lineage, not skin color #lineagematters
@anitab734 18 күн бұрын
Africans and caribbeans came to America to colonize black Americans
@charleeshaw7423 19 күн бұрын
Africans and Caribbeans should have built up their social capital and not feel entitled to impose on ours
@charleeshaw7423 19 күн бұрын
Foundational black Americans are not ashamed… we just want our ethnicity back from the ethnic and culturally homeless people when they get here… we don’t have to share who we are because they came here. They ain’t sharing being Nigerian, Haitians, Jamaicans etc
@charleeshaw7423 19 күн бұрын
Do you all think africanism and Caribbeanism should be expelled as well.. because we are Americans regardless of what immigrants think about it .. this panel is trying to get us to participate in our own ethnocide… forget unity .. has been tried and failed.. they need to come together in Africa and the Caribbean
@michaelbentley-jy5rr Ай бұрын
Simple ask a gentile.😊
@naturalmoments9319 Ай бұрын
42:00, Wendy, what are African Americans' ideas about Caribbeans? What have you heard?
@charleeshaw7423 19 күн бұрын
You aren’t black either.. you have always identified as Caribbean, West Indian or whatever island you came from.. now you want to be black because we as black Americans have cultivated so much social capital as being black now you want to infiltrate it without creating or contributing to it… you just use it
@charleeshaw7423 19 күн бұрын
You aren’t black either.. you have always identified as Caribbean, West Indian or whatever island you came from.. now you want to be black because we as black Americans have cultivated so much social capital as being black now you want to infiltrate it without creating or contributing to it… you just use it
@asaseya1819 Ай бұрын
This is sick, why are foreigners allowed to have an opinion on how our kids need to be taught.
@asaseya1819 Ай бұрын
The history is under attack because its fake anyway.
@texasgirl8802 Ай бұрын
Having Black churches create Freedom schools at the church would be the perfect place to have it.
@anitab734 Ай бұрын
We black Americans are the only blacks 💯
@leewuanti4327 Ай бұрын
Black Americans can never be more black than people from where their ancestors originated. Period.
@monet925 13 күн бұрын
We are the only ones that have status of Black on our birth cerificates.
@RH_DB Ай бұрын
We’ve accomplished so much here in America we can completely forget about Africa and be very proud.
@deryck-kr2tl Ай бұрын
smh
@killiun55 Ай бұрын
@@deryck-kr2tl Word I don't even know what to say. Super Ignorant.
@anitab734 18 күн бұрын
@@RH_DB colonizers 🙄
@anitab734 18 күн бұрын
@@RH_DB as long as there's a GOD that's not going to happen no hate but we are not the same people
@leewuanti4327 13 күн бұрын
@@RH_DB , people on the African continent belong to so many ethnic groups and cultures. On the continent of Africa, the average African doesn't refer to himself as a black person. Rather, he would talk about his ethnicity. The idea that black people either in the Latin America, the United States, the Caribbean are the same also has never at anytime. Now idea of solidarity of black people is an ideal that is accepted by many regardless of where they live around the world. There are those who don't care about it and there are those who embrace it. It's just about perspectives. Black Americans are not a monolith either. Some are interested in their African ancestry and will engage with Africa regardless.
@deryck-kr2tl Ай бұрын
'' african americans believe they are the Arbiters of blackness'' and this is what annoys me the most about my cousins in the north
@brandonray4379 Ай бұрын
WE ARE
@deryck-kr2tl Ай бұрын
@@brandonray4379 don't be a clown ! who are y'all
@anitab734 Ай бұрын
@@deryck-kr2tl we are not Africans for sure
@brandonray4379 Ай бұрын
@@deryck-kr2tl we own you. You belong to us.
@ehzAxemuzik 18 күн бұрын
..the majority of us don't have any relatives outside of the USA..stop saying we are cousins please..
@lethalzzvr Ай бұрын
I have a feeling that most of the members of the panel are drawing their subjective assumptions as residents of the states along the coastal States, primarily along the eastern corridor. Many immigrants of color come from cultures which are passive aggressive, and struggle with deeply xenophobic and anti black attitudes. Traditionally "Native", Black Americans have been the vanguard of Pan African attitude. This is born out of the tradition of the one drop rule. However, in the Caribbean and Latin America, and Africa, are programned to make distinctions amount themselves. On fact, many Caribbean immigrants would fight among themselves (big Island vs little island, Dominican vs Puerto Rican), it is only recently where you know see Latino or Caribbean solidarity.
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction Ай бұрын
Glad that you listened in. It is interesting to read what you took away from this conversation on African Americans and Black Immigrants. Looking forward to your feedback on other 13th of the Month convenings.
@antsmith5956 Ай бұрын
No, we're "Black Americans" and they're Afro immigrants. Please stop awarding foreigners our ethnic title while labelling us under theirs.
@ehzAxemuzik 18 күн бұрын
@@baltimoreracialjusticeactionaccording to our government anyone can claim black (Obama/Kamala), so descendants of USA chattle slavery should not fight to claim Black nor African American..That is a losing battle..Black has its origins in Asian, India, Africa and other cultures way before the USA instilled it..Chinese are now classified as black in South Africa..We descendants in the USA, who are Freedmen/ADOS should fight for being called American..There is no country called black where we come from..We are not African..Our origins are from here - we are Americans!
@MyTruth1771 Ай бұрын
Its almost as if these folk have totally missed the entire Black American ethnic identity movement over the last 10 years. They also subscribe to the self despising assumption that descendants of slavery and those who triumphed over slavery are inferior to those Black people who were not enslaved. This assumption inferiorizes Western Black people in comparison to Black people on the African continent.
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction Ай бұрын
We agree that that would be a self despising assumption. So glad that this conversation was not about that.
@deryck-kr2tl Ай бұрын
Black American ethnic identity?!
@MyTruth1771 Ай бұрын
@@deryck-kr2tlwhat's the question?
@deryck-kr2tl Ай бұрын
@@MyTruth1771'' Black American ethnic identity '' what is this suppose to mean iam not from the US
@MyTruth1771 Ай бұрын
@deryck-kr2tl The Black American ethnic identity is our self awareness of our unique Black American peoplehood and the history, heritage, and culture of the Black people in the United States who developed here beginning as early as 1619 through slavery, through freedom struggle, our cultural development up to today.
@Esmexie 5 ай бұрын
Black immigrants have always been in this country. WEB Dubois is Haitian descendant. I feel FBA has erased the contributions of Black immigrants to the struggle.
@maxthetaxcollector8707 5 ай бұрын
FBA hasn’t erased the contributions of black immigrants to the struggle at all. The problem is that those handful of black immigrants that contributed to the struggle are outnumbered by black immigrants that come here to work against FBA.
@ursamahan-worlds5726 4 ай бұрын
Well I know that black immigrants have a different experience than descendants of enslaved black Americans. They envelope the narrative of white Americans that black Americans are bad, ghetto. Etc. I don't share ANYTHING WITH OTHER AFRICAN PEOPLE. That's disrespectful to MY ANCESTORS THAT EXPERIENCED SLAVERY, JIM CROW, CIVIL RIGHTS, ETC! What's what with DESCENDANTS OF ENSLAVED BLACK AMERICANS! There's NO WAY I would go to Africa and think just because I'm black, I share their history! That's disrespectful to THEIR HISTORY! We're NOT THE SAME!
@BLKAMERICA 2 ай бұрын
Yall havent always been anywhere. Stop the lying. Over the last 40 years yall have been fleeing from your homelands.
@darksaint0124 2 ай бұрын
This is exactly it. If you look hard enough you will find these FBA people being just as racist as white people. Just look at how many were spreading the Haitians eat your pets nonsense before that was found out to be an obvious lie. I'm tired of the rheoric. I've always been a fan of letting actions speak for yourselves and the FBA community seems to only care about themselves and F everybody else. Somehow the black people that came from elsewhere to fight are only a handful. What good do y'all even do? You guys haven't been able to get the US to stop targeting Haiti for over 200 years. Now that I think about it, what exactly are any of you trying to get done? The only political position I've ever heard from you guys is reparations which shows how much you don't understand the country you happen to be born in. America will gladly do social things that don't cost them money. You guys ever going to fight against the reverse reparations that Haitians have been paying for over 2 centuries? No. You only care about reparations for yourselves. Everybody else should burn, but they should also help you get reparations. You guys are an incoherent movement. I would be surprised if more than a minority of the black people living in the US even knew you existed.
@Esmexie 5 ай бұрын
Wonderful discussion! I wish there was more nuance for children of black immigrants who are Americanized
@darksaint0124 2 ай бұрын
They just continue to act like we don't exist and reuse racist tropes to constantly attack us.
@makiba9461 5 ай бұрын
The diaspora division did not start in college. Ask black immigrants what they are told about FBA by ICE when they first come here. Ask them. Those agents teach them bad things about FBA.
@darksaint0124 2 ай бұрын
The F are you talking about? Stop making up reasons to be racist to other black people. This is one of the lamest things people try and do. Y'all are no different than the women who go to college and suddenly think all men are evil. You're literally doing the same exact thing and somehow thinking you're unique. Why don't you stop with the straw man and tell us what you think ICE is saying, and then tell me why anyone would believe the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT who people not born in America are far more willing to see in a negative light than people who were born in America. I don't even think that you realize that you admit to jumping to a conclusion. Make it make sense.
@bwanahaguziki307 6 ай бұрын
Where is the real Caribbean man on this panel to tell the truth and dispel the nonesense im hearing about black Caribbean immigrants.
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction 6 ай бұрын
This is a gendered comment which implies that only certain genders can tell the stories of their people. Such a comment is not consistent with liberation. However, to each his - or her - or their - own.
@Daysofdestruction1 6 ай бұрын
Black is our word it belongs to us Black Americans.. you don’t think about these other groups when you hear that word🖤BLACK🖤
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction 6 ай бұрын
African American refers specifically to Black Americans - those whose people have come through the Maafa and arrived on U.S. shores during a specific time frame. The word Black is global and includes Black people wherever they may be in the Diaspora. We look forward to continuing this conversation at a future time.
@Daysofdestruction1 6 ай бұрын
@@baltimoreracialjusticeaction No, the word black belongs to black Americans, We set the Culture for the word , when a person is talking about the word black they don’t think about other people in other countries, They’re talking about black Americans
@sleepyccs 6 ай бұрын
People born to immigrant parents are not Black Americans. They are 2nd generation immigrants. "Black" is an ethnonym for the ethnic group born out of USA chattal slavery.
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction 6 ай бұрын
The word Black is global and includes Black people wherever they may be in the Diaspora. African American is a term specifically used for the group born out of U.S. chattel slavery.
@sleepyccs 6 ай бұрын
Black immigrants are destroying the HBCU experience.
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction 6 ай бұрын
The conflation of Black immigrants and Foundational Black Americans by institutions often leads to the obscuring of the continued presence of barriers that are specific to Foundational Black Americans; that are generational; and that are born out of 400+ years of systemic and institutional anti-Blackness.
@Timopechancanogh 6 ай бұрын
We dont want you so called other blacks.
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction 6 ай бұрын
Now, that's just mean. . .
@movingtowardswellness6675 6 ай бұрын
Non-Black Folk of Color? What do you mean? B1
@Nickelniner09 6 ай бұрын
Right we done with that people of color mess it lumps multiple groups into one ignoring cultural differences as a foundational black american I dont want to be lumped in because it erases our struggle and ascribes it to people who have nothing to do with our history on this soil
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction 6 ай бұрын
@@Nickelniner09 Absolutely. People of Color does lump people with different histories into one group. Knowing that no one group is a monolith, this is why we shared this 13th of the Month session so that we could engage in the different stories of our respective groups. We are looking forward to continuing the conversation in the future and hope you will join.
@marlenegnene9779 6 ай бұрын
Being a Baby Boomer, I grew up in a community with black people from the Islands and most of my friends, mother or father were from different places in the Caribbean. My stepfather was from St. Kitts. We were together, It was when we had to move out of the neighborhood due to a housing development being constructed in our neighborhood, we all scattered to the Bronx, Brooklyn, and upper Manhattan. Our parents used to get together once a year at a dance. But as they died off all of that stopped. But now we must come together as Diasporans. Love you all conversation. We had a lot of skills when we came here and sharpened them when we got where. A lot of inventions, that made life more comfortable here were made by Foundational Black Americans. Love You All
@wayneblack4085 6 ай бұрын
🧢🧢🧢🧢
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction 6 ай бұрын
We love that you love our conversation and hope you will be back! If you want to join us in real time for our June 13th of the Month, visit our Eventbrite page for more information: www.eventbrite.com/cc/13th-of-the-month-320869?utm-campaign=social&utm-content=creatorshare&utm-medium=discovery&utm-term=odclsxcollection&utm-source=cp&aff=escb. Thank you for watching.
@CrankyMen911 8 ай бұрын
Let's quit being racist against white straight men. We're getting tired of it!! He / Her!! Way nature works!! Go get a job and quit whining!!
@anthonyj3592 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the story on racist policing and robots.I would love to see BRJA do an event on violent coded bias and strategic racist AI tactics. I want to resist providing data (via phone, web searches, AI conveniences, etc.). It feels like the AI racist structures are being built fast in powerful places and will be kept away from the public until it's too late.
@lovelight422 Жыл бұрын
Well Mississippi has to fight
@lovelight422 Жыл бұрын
I'm from Illinois and this is bad. We have to f---t. To keep our sanity
@sikozen Жыл бұрын
People have been fighting for the middle class since they first started taxing the hell out of people to pay for special interest groups. Taxation has killed the middle class.
@rodb66 Жыл бұрын
How can these people be so certain that things like men pulling their pants up or married people raising their kids will make things better economically? I never saged my pants and raised my kids with my wife yet we're struggling financially. I see the respectability politics come from both the right and left.
@michaelsykes1857 Жыл бұрын
dont give me this shit, in our current time if black people work good jobs and stay out of jail they will get social security to
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction Жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, job scarcity and over policing of Black communities are two of many huge barriers that prevent Black people from securing their social security. This is a short segment of a larger conversation that we encourage you to tune into to. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIDUlIGnrcibmtE
@mmcunome314 Жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna benefit either, lady. I'm a stay at home mom. So, that's fun. Can everyone just reset? I grew up in the 80s poor. We weren't nearly as racist as this generation is trying to perpetuate. Just treat people fairly. And stop making little kids single out black folks let black kids think they are victims.
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction Жыл бұрын
Class opportunity and access in the 80's was racialized just like it is today. The same systems and policies that deepened the wealth gap in the 80's are alive and well today. When analyzing race and class we root those conversation in US history. This conversation was part of a segment that you can view from the link at the bottom. We also encourage you to attend our April 13th event that will be focused on Motherhood and White Supremacy. This event will cover some of the other concerns you raised. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIDUlIGnrcibmtE
@sandra-jones Жыл бұрын
If you didn't pay into it why would you benefit. Also the 80's was just as racist as the 50's, 60's and 70's. Do some research and you'll see it.
@debracurry612 Жыл бұрын
She is wrong to say only black people will be punished by this. There are lots of elderly white people as well as people from all ethnic groups who are going to be punished by having to wait longer. She's discounting how it's more common for black people to make a comfortable living now a days. Stop pulling the victim card for one (your) group of people! Stand up for ALL poor people!
@rashawndaholmes2651 Жыл бұрын
Poor people will struggle with this.. it's not a race thing.. it's a class thing.. if we weren't responsible in our working days.. and invested to receive returns in our old age.. this is what happens.. this is what happens when you trust the government.
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment Rashawnda. This short was a piece of our conversation of how race and class will play a huge role in how retirement will play out. Many low wage workers haven't had access to resources and opportunities to invest into their retirement. We know that issue is compounded if you are person of color. Here is the link if you would like to hear more. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIDUlIGnrcibmtE
@jayone2140 Жыл бұрын
After REBUILDING AND FINANCING UKRAINE, IT WILL BE.
@macewbee Жыл бұрын
No black people and mixed black people needs to show what he contribute to the world and in america the good bad and ugly also we need to teach on the inventions and everything besident entertainment.
@tombernatz7290 2 жыл бұрын
Another made up holiday
@youngballmac3256 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all protest over that ? But not the over 400k black aborted babies that same year? Your all insane
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Young Ball Mac. This event provided a platform for us to examine several current events that require attention and action. Your response is NOT related to the topics we discussed in this video. We did not discuss George Floyd, protests or laws around reproductive health in this video. Police brutality, Black gun ownership and recent supreme court decisions were topics we covered in previous KZbin videos. You are welcome to watch and share specific questions to the history, content and terminology we used in those discussions. KZbin is one of the many platforms we use to deepen our learning with our digital learning community. We adore opportunities to engage in thoughtful conversations rooted in history and facts. If you aren't engaging with a curious learning mindset we invite you to leave our page.
@youngballmac3256 2 жыл бұрын
George Floyd was a multi felon drug addict who robbed a pregnant women at gun point
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Young Ball Mac. This event provided a platform for us to examine several current events that require attention and action. Your response is NOT related to the topics we discussed in this video. We did not discuss George Floyd, protests or laws around reproductive health in this video. Police brutality, Black gun ownership and recent supreme court decisions were topics we covered in previous KZbin videos. You are welcome to watch and share specific questions to the history, content and terminology we used in those discussions. KZbin is one of the many platforms we use to deepen our learning with our digital learning community. We adore opportunities to engage in thoughtful conversations rooted in history and facts. If you aren't engaging with a curious learning mindset we invite you to leave our page.
@riverofmolecules 2 жыл бұрын
At around 27:35, the speaker says that the Roe v Wade decision is based on the Lawrence v Texas case, but Lawrence was in 2003, three decades after Roe in 1973. I am not sure if I am misunderstanding, if the speaker misspoke, etc. At 57:00, Adar mentions what other workplace where if you are thought to have stolen money, you get to sit on the investigative panel. To be glib, I would argue the police fits this.
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings and thank you for your comment! RE: Lawrence v Texas, you are correct! The case Ani was referring to was 1965 case Griswold v. Connecticut, to support the point that those privacy cases were a part of a body of law that supported the Supreme Court's interpretation of privacy. RE: your second point - we agree, and that's not even glib! Again thank you for viewing and commenting. We hope to converse more in the future!
@rhondachandlerstewart3333 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for providing this program
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for tuning in and learning with us!
@rhondachandlerstewart3333 3 жыл бұрын
Hello from Nashville, TN
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rhonda! Good to see you
@rhondachandlerstewart3333 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for giving honor to this conversation. I valued everyone's contribution to elevating my awareness and knowledge through conversation.
@baltimoreracialjusticeaction 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rhonda. We are glad this conversation resonated with you.
@jacquelineh.nunnally953 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve just gained enough composure to watch this. It is wonderful. I mean seriously wonderful. Thank you so much for loving Avis. Her other most prized relationship was with her Brother Sylvester 10 years her junior. She ordered him specifically one morning after breakfast. They love each other specifically and specially. Our lives, mine, Cynthia’s and Sylvester’s will forever be changed because for each of us, Our favorite Sister has moved from among us. Best Sister the world ever offered. Than you for Her!!! Forever Love ❣️