It’s a valid point that paintings, especially from the renaissance, can be “over interrupted” looking for hidden messages that may or may not be in the painter’s mind! Perhaps I was influenced by an impressive New York Times interpretation which is definitely worth a look! www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/25/arts/durer-self-portrait.html

@@geoffswimer The New York Times articles are famous for their extreme intellectualism, so that could very well be.

I believe It is the first self-portrait which is making a personal statement. I wonder if Frida Kahlo ever saw it? www.fridakahlo.org/self-portrait-with-thorn-necklace-and-hummingbird.jsp?

Experts say this exactly matches Shroud and Ray downing face of Jesus Christ.

Exactly matches Shroud from 6th century. This is the real Lord Jesus Christ . Part of His face is human n other part divine.

Experts say this exactly matches Shroud and Ray downing face of Jesus Christ.

Don't believe in visions. 99.99% of them are demons trying to deceive you. Reject them with humbleness, God won't take offence and there will be other ways He will send his message to you if that is the case.

Then again, I interpreted your statement in an unfair way, when in fact you make an interesting observation. The icons were indeed impressive to the people who lived then and there. But the comments section has nonetheless people expressing their deepest admiration for it today, centuries and centuries later. In fact, many of the Christian temples are as much a source of deepest aesthetic and spiritual experiences today as they were back then - other places don't seem to be visited for that reason alone and it somehow seems to me the effect cannot be replicated if you divorce a place from that theological context.

Et Verbum caro factum est.

You seeing things

I see what you mean!

There are NO "two necks". The Pantocrator images are derived from the Shroud of Turin [SOT], wherein the SOT visage, imprinted on said cloth at the time of Christ's burial, reflects the brutalities of torture and etc, i.e., the PHYSICAL DISTORTION particular to the left side of his face. The Pantocrator images are offered as proof that the SOT was in existence, AT LEAST, since the time of rendering of such likenesses, and, PROBABLY, since the 1st century. IOW: this appearance is NOT a clever artistic interpretation.

Those signs or face shapes on the neck are BS. Pantocrator visage renderings were derived via direct observation, and, emulation, of the Shroud of Turin [SOT] image characteristics. There are SEVERAL such SOT characteristics seen in ALL Pantocrator images: e.g., before Pantocrator images, Christ images were of decidedly ROMAN characteristics; particularly with a symmetrical shaven face and short hair; quite different from the traditional Jew of his times ... and, as seen clearly in the SOT image. The reasons for the clear asymmetrical contrast between the right and left sides of the face are the bruisings, swellings, and, etc that are observed directly in the SOT; where such, in turn, were the result of Christ's brutal torture and crucifixion.

Experts say this exactly matches Shroud and Ray downing face of Jesus Christ.

@@johnk2452 There is no proof or even indication that this Icon was based on the Shroud, nor even proof that Byzantines had the shroud. We have proof of Byzantines possessing other sacred objects like The Hand of Saint John and many peaces of the Cross, but no mention of the shroud. If anything i want to say the shroud was based on Orthodox Iconography. Thats right. It is a catholic forgery.

No such thing as Universe n Read the bible. Firmament covers earth. Outer space is a hoax and nasa means satan.

@@maximusvonce1381 so there exist only one place in the bible? You should read the bible fool

@@Latro84 Nasa has deceived you

@@Latro84 You are the lost fool. Turn to Jesus Christ or burn in hell forever.

@@Latro84 Calling people fools makes you guilty of hellfire

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Really pleased to help, hope you get good marks!

If you close half of the face of Christ it's either happy or smiling at you or the opposite

It is Christ who is both Compassionate full of Mercy and the Judge of Righteousness. We will all face Him when He returns in Glory as the Judge of All. Then each person will be accountable for every thought word and action of their life. People understood then were much more Holy. We are in last days and the Coming of Christ isn’t very soon in order to save his elect. Those who choose Christ over this world

Is very soon and we have little time but only to repent. He has given us Covid to do this.