You should make an updated video with the updated software. I have their new Moose scanner and I like the scans that are coming out of it, but I will not try anything that small. The Moose is not made for objects that small.
@666Azmodan666Ай бұрын
my first scans look much better and I tested on my printed model, i.e. the devil's bust, and the scanner captured details on the corners that are quite small, about 0.5mm. Your sensitivity is definitely too high. You have simplification turned on, scanners do not perform correct retopology, so I didn't even use it, otherwise you can forget about sharp edges. The 3 factory settings of the model quality are quite low, the highest one has a mesh density of 0.32mm, so I set it to advanced and the density is 0.1 (the scanner has a max of 0.05) below that there is too much noise. I would do a review but it would be a waste of time unless they gave me a phone holder.
@94todd2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the high sensitivity is your issue, that's gonna create a ton of extra noise
Im getting really good scans with my Seal Lite using the current iteration of their software. At first I was getting terrible scans and was tempted to return it, but I gave it some more time and really took the time to learn what works and what doesn't. I learned that using a tripod and the turn table is a must, it keeps the scanner from losing tracking and makes noise cleanup easier. I also learned that lighting is key, you want to be in a well lit room, preferably with an overhead lamp hovering over the turn table. Also keep sensitivity at lower values to reduce noise. Lastly take multiple scans from different angles and take your time cleaning up any noise using the various lasso tools, this is important as you'll want to help the program as much as possible during its "auto" noise reduction setting when processing. I've been able to get really good scans, even scans of videogame controllers (both halves) that are good enough to be 3D printed and used.
@nathanreitsma44373 ай бұрын
Use turntable mode
@TheFarukbozyurt4 ай бұрын
hello, thanks for the video. What is the resolution of the device? Has anyone used exocad in the dental industry?
@Jaxrud4 ай бұрын
0.1 mm accuracy feels like a lie
@DArkwIng24 ай бұрын
What PC specs are you using? I sense it is a little slow. It needs to be fast to capture the frames. Is this the Seal Lite or just Seal?
@DArkwIng24 ай бұрын
Why is your sensitivity cranked to 10? Will not that induce noise, and based on the size of the object vs what I can scan on my Einstar is sick details!
@dkmorphey5 ай бұрын
you just don't know how to use it
@navazdowling95156 ай бұрын
Change the config file to these settings. Scanned with the seal with these config setting for noise clean up . [Algo] BaseTol=5 TolDown=-100 TolRadius=350 TolUp=-5 [Camera] Brightness=2 LightP=100 [PoissonRecon] islandAreaRatio=0.00005 resolution=0.2 samples_per_node=5 trim_value=.1 adaptiveOctreeDepth=8 pointWeight=15 solverSubdivide=12 userConfig=1
@Alkhymia6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your review :) hope get a better product soon!
@bassmanilil74636 ай бұрын
I have Lite version and my results are much better. You didn't clean the noise at all, what you expect?
@phillipmyers84986 ай бұрын
You have the sensitivity set way too high. That is what is causing a lot of the static on your scans. Turn it all the way down to the lowest setting of 2. Keep the lighting low it doesn't need to be completely off. I actually use a Photo Box with the lighting on the lowest level. You are not going to get rid of all of the static but you can cut it way back. Also, use the JMS Edit mode to delete the turntable and as much of the static as possible before using the Processing mode. This will make a big difference in the Processed scans. I don't use the Processing mode within JMS instead, I use the free software CloudCompare to clean up my scans created in JMS.
@BigelowInventions6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience with the Seal! I'm also struggling to scan mechanical parts. I probably need more practice, but it's just consuming so much of my time.
@bassmanilil74636 ай бұрын
On my PC JMStudio working fast Ryzen 7 5800x 64 ram. You will have better results if turn off texture and the set detail to normal. There always will be noise, but depence of the light in the room and brightness you set can be manage to lower. Post-processing is something necessary - you have to clean the noise by hand to help the software to do his thing later. My result are good so far, but I'm making 10 scans for every of my projects.
@MileHighMaker6 ай бұрын
I have a 3060 Ti in my machine with 64GB of ram and the program is quite slow, it definitely does not use anywhere near what is available lol. Turning off texture and setting detail to normal does not get me better results, but rather it just eliminates the need to process color data and the normal detail just smooths out the scanned details (and noise) resulting in smoothed out models I talked about in previous videos. Other tests show lighting had little to no effect on the model since the scanner emits it's own light. In hindsight I think most issues have been related to model size (I'm scanning quite small objects) even though I'm well within the advertised size. All the noise I'm getting is making cleanup literally impossible to do no matter how many pieces or angles I scan. 3DMakerPro has reached out to me and said to scan objects larger then 100mm which is 10x bigger then the advertised size minimum which sucks and is not what I purchased this for. I'm learning a lot and it seems like after all this is the biggest factor in quality is reflectiveness and size haha. WOW this turned into a rant. k bye and thanks for the comment.
@vincentcimino19637 ай бұрын
I’m very computer illiterate, is this something I should attempt on my own? I need this file sent to me from 3D MakerPro? Thanks for the video
@MileHighMaker6 ай бұрын
It does take a little bit of computer literacy but once you find the folder and file, the rest is quite easy.
@LUCIANAIBVA7 ай бұрын
ive watched all the unpaid user videosx as I preordered the Seal, multi axis turntable to save me the yoga moves doing 100s of captures etc,. and its utter nonsense, lighting, scale of object.. software is awful on Mac M1 16gig, and wont record to iPhone with iOS JM studio... awful heavy smartgrip is redundant. 3DMaker pro suggest I sell it on - how bad is that - passing on tech you are not happy with ... so I'm pushing for refund minus a China shipping label that ensures the kit is returned and no lost in the post... utter disappointment and 15 hours or more wasted. Polycam3D and iPhone so much more dynamic, if not for tiny war hammer figurines
@starguy97 ай бұрын
I see that you are learning. I have the same scanner and it has worked really well. I tried creality ferrit first, and it just couldn't do small objects. I would tell you how to do all this correctly, but once you trouble shoot and learn for yourself everything else becomes easier. good luck.
@1313Stephan5 ай бұрын
@@MileHighMaker Any progress since this video? I have the Seal and multi-axis turntable, and I ran into the same issues you did scanning figs. Thanks for all the great work! Oh, and if you want to play with the multi-axis turntable, I'm in Denver and am willing to loan mine to you if it'll help make the damned thing work. ;)
@jorgem36257 ай бұрын
haven't you try baby powder 66% with alcohol 33% with a spray bottle, and let it dry, or go to a pharmacy and buy TING foot spray, it works really well. I have a revopoint POP2 3d scanner and I can get better scans than this with this technique, I hope this works well for you.
@MileHighMaker7 ай бұрын
Interesting, I'll have to try this out!
@RGS_237 ай бұрын
Hello, thank you, I had bought the scanner and saw your video... I ran to return it, I'm going to buy the Revopoint MINI, do you have information about it?
@MileHighMaker7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching the video! I don't have any insider info on the Revopoint. But, if you get it, make a video so we can follow your experiences!
all depth sensor based scanners are bad at small objects, and mediocre at medium (person) to large objects (cars trucks).
@scott1858 ай бұрын
I found AESUB scanning spray made a huge difference. Also Daktarin foot spray powder works well if on a budget. Where did my link go :( . just want to show my results.
@MileHighMaker7 ай бұрын
I'll have to look into getting some! Thank you!
@scott1858 ай бұрын
What test model is that i want to give it a try.
@MileHighMaker7 ай бұрын
It's the Cones of Calibration by Tableflip Foundry 😎👍
@juanpablogarau8098 ай бұрын
Hello, how do you ensure that duplicates of the object are not generated during the scan... as if it moved it from place to place. thank yo
@4343Butch8 ай бұрын
Mate, thanks for this, thats been really helpful am toying with 3D scanners to scan parts for 1/72 scale Aircraft and Armour models so I can create parts and print them on my 3d printer. Are you planning on reviewing other scanners? Cheers again most helpful 🙂
@OnnieKoski8 ай бұрын
I bought the light version, and it’s pretty much the same. If it’s not a simple organic object, it just doesn’t work. My OpenScan build works MUCH better than this thing.
@DD3Dstudio8 ай бұрын
I must say that your operation is a lack of professionalism displayed during the 3D scanning process. While scanning, it seems like you're being too rigid in terms of adjusting the lighting and relying on powder. Maybe trying out different approaches, like using a different object or bigger object for scanning, could give you better outcomes. It's doubtful that any scanner could handle the kind of flawed testing methods you're employing.
@michelefrattaruolo97068 ай бұрын
Grande scanner, ottimo software ma pessimo piatto rotante. Secondo me lo scanner si incasina e il software si perde con i punti di repere del piatto giverole. Peccato!!
@android4cg8 ай бұрын
The parameter suggested by 3dmakerpro only influence the fusion parameters. But the real problem of the seal is the high noise from scanning. Here the SW really need to improve. Also having the option for re-calibration on your own is mandatory.
@rogeroneill14328 ай бұрын
I've gotten some good results, but for larger items. It definitely doesn't do high detail and takes multiple attempts. It's definitely not a great scanner but it's super cheap. I'm debating returning it if they can't figure out any bug fixes.
@MileHighMaker8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I'll have to try again on some larger objects
@tseven8 ай бұрын
I have the same scanner along with the multi-axis turntable. After watching yours and other's videos I'm not sure I want to keep it. I haven't opened them since I might sell them. Also 10-300mm is equal to 1-30cm (just multiply cm by 10 to get mm)
@MileHighMaker8 ай бұрын
Yeah I purchased mine for scanning miniatures and so far it has not been able to do that well. Might work better for larger items? (but that's a test for another video) just not what I purchased it for. I get it...
@Sloganlogo8 ай бұрын
could the scanner have a malfunction ?? just wondering ??
@Todestelzer8 ай бұрын
I bought serval scanners now. Revopoint mini for really small stuff. Einscan-SP for parts of the size of a controller or slightly bigger. Einscan Einstar for big stuff. For this part I would have used the Revopoint mini. The Einscan-SP would be more convenient but it’s not made for small stuff like this. Oh and the 0.01mm accuracy must be a scam. Even my 2k€ Einscan-SP scanner has only 0.05mm accuracy. I checked it and it was 0.05 or less.
@android4cg8 ай бұрын
Great video! Will test higher resolution next days with my seal. Really disappointing not to have option for re-calibration. This could reduce noise due to bad calibration. Every professional 3d scanner can be calibrated on your own.
@cekuhnen8 ай бұрын
I tested multiple scanners from 3D Maker Pro and I am close to say those are sub par and very expensive. with basic 3D photogrammetry I get better scans with more details. The Ferret Pro offer fear superior tracking and scanning then the 3D Maker scanners.
@dge45608 ай бұрын
Im not having the same issues. Dont know why you have that much noise. Im no youtuber and therfor not a room full of lights. Try to only have the light on you need. And close all the curtains to avoid the big UV generator called the sun.
@DavidFindlay8 ай бұрын
I’m having the same issues with my Seal. It has very little focal area, low depth, and can’t keep tracking… also, who makes 32 bit applications anymore??
@LUCIANAIBVA8 ай бұрын
I want a refund, i cant get basic connection and its really ugly and heavy on the smart grip , this is not cash well spent
@andrewh23418 ай бұрын
Just curious, how big is the actual physical object? I might have missed it in the video but I didn’t see a picture when I went back and scrubbed through the whole video.
@tobydz8 ай бұрын
Ya know what... since you're already talking to their people, you should ask them for an example scan and model of whatever they have as their "best representation of what this hardware can do". If we saw that at least we'd have a 'bar' to set it to and not go chasing what's not possible...
@tobydz8 ай бұрын
Dude... thank god I'm not the only one who's beating their head against this thing. I really, really want something to just *click* and figure out it's just been me the whole time... I see you dropped a new vid a day ago so I'll check that out. Side note: 20:20 that 'squeak'.... my wife's jaw hit the floor when she heard that... I do that *exact* sound alllll the time LOL....
@333oaktree8 ай бұрын
Can anyone recommend an alternative that is still reasonably priced? Bought the seal and it is disappointing. Please help. Thank you
@Phanboy8 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video. I got the lite and my experience was the same. The software unintuitive, the scanning is not smooth at all and I've yet to get any working scan.
@canofanger8 ай бұрын
Try spraying the model with dry shampoo spray first. It makes a lot of difference in the scan.
@KallenbergMD8 ай бұрын
That totally depends on what you are looking to do with it, if you wanna catch microscopic details of a 2cm Warhammer Figure, yeah maybe you should buy a 15k professional Dental scanner or something like that, if you wanna reverse engineer some parts ( firearm accessories or car) than I already had some good results....
@denisstepanenko30378 ай бұрын
What do you want from cheap Chineese 3d scanner. I made DIY SLS 3d scanner (two industral cameras and dlp projector) it cost at least 3 times more than seal.