I heard something about Merseyrail wanting to use it but that was a while ago, honestly I’d rather it just be preserved or something. I’d love to go down there one day

@@TrumpetGuy26 It is 'being preserved' as you suggest and therefore 'safeguarded' so it could be reutilised as infrastructure for Merseyrail expansion then it must be. that is the very best form of 'preservation'.

I think drivers would report anything different happening to Network Rail. They cannot monitor this stretch on a daily basis, that would be too intensive.

well, if drivers do report anything different then that's good.

I recently heard a rumour from someone on the rmweb that they send someone down once a decade in some scuba gear to check up. The last inspection was in 2018, and apparently it was found that they needed 5 more twigs under there to prevent excessive dynamic deformation.

@@kermito3659 geez, just 5 twigs almost destroyed the whole line?

@@QLDrailfan798 serviceability and ultimate limit states are two different factors. And yes, people care that much about something that small when realistically it has no impact on the end result. Look at the stupidity of eurocode 1, it fails to even understand modern drylining systems

That is the Network Rail video we tacked on the end, we did not use any music.

That would not be possible, I am afraid. Mainly for the reason that ing the 1860s, the south wall of the cutting was cut back by around seven feet. So if an attempt was made to rebuild the arch, it would be seven feet away from the wall.

It means maintaining the fabric of the site and not letting it deteriorate. But yes, it will remain like an old castle or Abbey. We can submit requests to the Department of culture to do work on it, but we could never rebuild the Moorish Arch or anything like that.

@@liverpoolandmanchesterrailway Ah, thanks. Still, that's good. It allows it to be tided up and stop it deteriorating further. I guess you could have static displays or similar in a way where they wouldn't change the fabric. I think it could so easily become a great tourist attraction - for all the reasons given in the video.

I would say that Kirkdale would be the major hub. The Extension would need a new spur at Rice Lane to bring it into the city since the original route has been built over. This would make the line a full loop, and you can also connect it to the Boole Branch, which would get you to more inner-city stations.

@@liverpoolandmanchesterrailway I would agree with that. I figured the bus connectivity and nearby landmark would suffice.

We are looking at Augmented Reality for this.

as long as it n'er lean toward cleptoparasitic Corporateria's Disneyesqueness...bravo! otherwise 🍸

No, you are right. The big issue is that when the 1970 Hunts Cross line went in, it cut into the roof of the tunnel, reducing the clearance to around ten feet. Under which it would be impossible to get any form of rail vehicle, other than something used on the London mail underground. It could be a cycle route, but it is a 1 in 48 incline, so weeee all the way down, hard slog all the way back up. Even without that blockage, the tunnel is only 16 feet high, and the most recent survey did worry about clearance. The fact of the matter is, that if you want to make the Wapping functional, you have to destroy it. It was not made with the modern world in mind. You will at least have to dig down and destroy the unique endless rope system, which is now protected for the first ten meters at the top, and or you have to expand the bore of the whole tunnel, which again you cannot do with those protected ten meters. A tourist serving light railway to get people up to the cutting maybe the best use of it, along with a cycle lane for the brave.

@@liverpoolandmanchesterrailway If the Northern line cut into the tunnel, could the tunnel before that point not have a section of track connecting the two tunnels (or a tunnel parallel to the Northern line) to avoid the clearance issue, and allow access to Central? Just food for thought, I absolutely see and support the preservation point of view too.

Yeah, the Swansea & Mumbles is the daddy of them all, then you get into adding criteria to filter results to get different answers. We tend to stick with "Modern" or "Inter-city" but then you are left to explain what both phrases actually mean. One of the Trusts desires is to always give credit where credit is due, because the L&MR is a culmination of all that came before.