ATn scope to the day now still have firmware issue . i’m tired keep sending my scope back-and-forth to ATn company for repair.😢
@n2shooter5 күн бұрын
@badboytommy187 The latest firmware has addressed every issue that I have, and added many new features. I'm very pleased with it now, just so shame it took almost 2 years to get there.
@badboytommy1877 күн бұрын
I think every company like to push the stuff out trying to make there money but still a prototype shouldn’t be in the market yet.
@badboytommy1877 күн бұрын
Very good honest video review . I was thinking about getting a another scope because I have a one leaf nv 500 same issue once I do the one shot zero my reticle cross hair site drop down and that affects my accuracy. Long range. 200 yards and more. By the way, I’m shooting a 45-70 rifle😊
@n2shooter7 күн бұрын
@badboytommy187 I really have to do a follow up review, as their latest firmware has resolved all of my issues and made huge improvements in functionality!
@badboytommy1877 күн бұрын
Hi ! Mate , thanks your info but if I purchase one now, shouldn’t have any issue, right? because I am tire returning product back-and-forth with my shipping fee and stocking fee. That is very unacceptable.
@modulation007Ай бұрын
How is it for seeing them moving? Is the refresh rate high enough, or do you only see them when they stand still?
@n2shooterАй бұрын
Hi! The refresh rate on this monocle is kinda slow, but it is still plenty enough to see them when they are moving.
@themack58Ай бұрын
Excellent, honest and unbiased review....I had been thinking of upgrading from my 4K pro but the lack of the zoom knob was the deal breaker for me, trying to zoom in fast by fumbling with small buttons with cold, sometimes gloved hands I had just gotten away from with my previous X Sight 2....I'll be sticking to my 4K Pro.
@903environment2 ай бұрын
I have the air saberand I can not get my x-sight 4k pro 5-20x smart scope to zero with it,it's shooting way too low,is there way to site it in
@PCP_HUNTER_UK2 ай бұрын
Nice bit of scran there
@taggartlittle5704 ай бұрын
In the video description is says you’re around Youngstown. Do you do any coyote or raccoon hunting with your setup? I’m out by Berlin lake. I love hunting groundhogs but raccoons and coyotes are even better in my opinion. I’m running a thor4 (thor5 xd arriving this week 😁) on top of a 700mm Panthera in .25 pushing 52 grain boat tail HPs.
@n2shooter4 ай бұрын
@taggartlittle570 THOR 5 XD 🤯🤯🤯!!! THAT'S AWESOME! Ihad a THOR 4 384 1.25-5X that I harvested some raccoon on public lands with using a Foxcon Patriot electronic caller and my Benjamin Bulldog .357. I tried a few times to call in yotes on public lands, but they were much smarter than I am, and I was unsuccessful. I also have a THOR 4 640 2.5-25x that I have not taken any game with yet. That's one hell of a tune on that Panthera, a yote don't stand a chance out to 100 yards and beyond! I hunt public lands at Berlin every season, as it's right between home and work.
@taggartlittle5704 ай бұрын
@@n2shooter I sure hope the xd is what they are advertising! The coyotes are really tough to hunt. That’s one of the things I love about it. Frustrating as hell but the first time you catch sight of one in the thermal it gets ya hooked!!
@taggartlittle5704 ай бұрын
@@n2shooter we’ll have to try to get together for a hunt sometime.
@stevebzz8395 ай бұрын
decent vid, please lose the terrible music
@n2shooter5 ай бұрын
@@stevebzz839 I'm glad you liked it.
@michaelfurman1705 ай бұрын
Thank you for the thorough and useful review. I thumbed up and subscribed. I also just bought the ATN X-Sight 5 LRF after watching this video. I've been on the fence for two years but chose today to get this mounted for my PRS rig.
@n2shooter5 ай бұрын
Thanks a bunch! I have only one problem with the scope, that was associated with trying to load up an older custom reticle, but other than that, I've been killing a ton of pest with the ATN X-SIGHT 5 5-25x LRF!
@jwate5 ай бұрын
We Basically have the same set up. Maverick with a sumo and Atn x5 3-15. You having any issues with your scope?
@n2shooter5 ай бұрын
I have been mostly happy since the last firmware update. I currently have an RMA in process, because some kinda way many of my factory reticles are missing, and ones I create and load in are only available if I load them from my phone app. My biggest gripe is that it took over a year for ATN to actually deliver all of the features they promised upon release.
@ap47ල්5 ай бұрын
Rancid creatures.
@gierhedd755 ай бұрын
I would just like to throw it out there that with RAV, there is a minimum recoil impulse that needs to be picked up by the gyroscope before it will activate. Having said that, i am aware that some big bore airguns have a bit of recoil to them, and they SHOULD register. I would just suggest making sure the firmware is absolutely up to date before getting deep in the weeds with it. The updates usually rectify some of these issues.
@n2shooter5 ай бұрын
Even with the latest firmware, the RAV is not sensitive enough, even when I try and calibrate it to my airgun. My main reason for trying out RAV, was it was the only way to get 240fps video recording, but ATN now allows you to select 240fps recording and record manually, so I am happy with that! You can see some of the 240fps video on this shot right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKOsmKt6jNWgbKM
@gierhedd755 ай бұрын
Thanks for the honest review. It seems like sometimes the only reviews I can find on products are manufacturer-sponsored, which often skip over the not-so-great details. I'll be picking this scope up for my suppressed 22s. I have the 4k pro on my crossbow; and it has been good to me for more than a few seasons. I initially had issues with mine, but firmware updates knocked them all out. I suspect as updates roll out for the 5, they will fall in line as well. The big draw for me is one battery vs 2. Cant tell you how many times I've accidentally left the ABL on and had to replace the battery.
@n2shooter5 ай бұрын
The latest firmware has rectified nearly all of my issues. I will try and do a follow-up review in the next few weeks.
@jwate5 ай бұрын
@@n2shooterthis is great news as I have one coming and was having serious buyers remorse. Would you recommend the x5 over the 4K pro now?
@roastntoast75506 ай бұрын
Nice one 😊👍
@n2shooter6 ай бұрын
Thanks a bunch! I don't know where the heck they keep coming from, but I will do my best to hold the line!
@MasonStormSunny7 ай бұрын
Hybrids .30?
@n2shooter7 ай бұрын
The first two were Hybrids, and the last follow up shot was a JSB Hades. I switched the ammo profiles in my scope, so I know the zero should have been good. Maybe I bumped the hell out of my barrel and didn't notice it. Go figure!3
@elvisjerrylee7 ай бұрын
What caliber?
@garyeyser39498 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I was on the fence as to which one I was going to buy for my first venture into hunting at night and due to your information I’m going to go with the 4k pro!!!!!!!!!!! Keep up the GREAT work. Thanks
@CaliberAirgunReviews8 ай бұрын
Sounds nice where you are my friend. I love it.
@n2shooter8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I'm in Ohio.
@Hangs4Fun8 ай бұрын
Appreciate the thorough, honest, and unbiased video. I imagine a lot of the things you found were part of the reason for the fast resolution by ATN, so thanks for that. Reviews like this are what I look for when making a purchase decision. One thing I wil point out is that IMHO the photo and video quality you showed at the range put the 4K pro ahead. Just seemed clearer to me
@n2shooter8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I will try and do an update for the scope very soon. As so many issues have been resolved with the latest firmware!
@Hangs4Fun8 ай бұрын
@@n2shooter well, I did end up purchasing an ATN X-Sight 5 LRF (5x-25). I would have bought one months ago, but was seeing too much indication that they released it before the firmware was ready. Now normally for a scope that wouldn't be a big deal, but for a scope like the 5th gen X-Sight with built in LRF that can make your PoA the PoI, software is critical obviously. I recommended to them, if they ever want to push this to the next level (instead of 1,000 yard, go to 1,500 yard or so). They need to interface with a portable weather station. I have a 1 mile gun I built years ago (w/ .338 Lapua Magnum) and I have a ballistics app on my phone and it gets all the environmental info from BlueTooth to my Kestrel 4500BT. It also takes in a lot more info about my custom loads (using 300 grain Nossler Accubond-Longrange), barrel, scope/reticle, and some advanced info (like using G7 BC instead of G1). There are so many more variables involved past 1,000 yards, that you really don't want to be typing in as they change and are better suited to be streamed as messages to the ballistics app. Man if, they do this, they can essentially make a scope to sell to the military that would allow 1 man sniper teams where it makes sense to. To think that you could potentially have a scope that determines the perfect PoA (that equals the PoI) on a moving target, with wind, at 1,500 yards... I suggested to them 2 new slogans... ATN we make your PoA = PoI and ATN, we turn your 2 man sniper team into a 1 man sniper team, lol
@Hangs4Fun8 ай бұрын
@n2shooter As info, I replied and it isn't showing. I didn't swear, but did refer to some things the send matter kineticly down range (wink-wink) It's probably in your channel admin tool waiting for you to approve it. Censorsh1p is so stup1d
@Hangs4Fun8 ай бұрын
@@n2shooter man 3 replies have been removed now. Just long range info on the gen 6 scope
@n2shooter8 ай бұрын
@@Hangs4Fun I have no idea why 🤷♀. What kind of long range info do you want to know? Like zoomed in long range in the various resolutions? I know the new 240fps looks much better that I could have expected, especially since the resolution is reduced below 1080p.
@MasonStormSunny8 ай бұрын
Wow. Better energy transfer than a slug.
@n2shooter8 ай бұрын
I think the Hades expand much quicker than most slugs, except for the FX Hybrids.
@son2j9 ай бұрын
Can you share me how to calibrate RAV sensitive? I found nothing in ATN's manual. Also does RAV 240fps video record work every shot?Mine is FX Impact MKII. Thank you so much.
@n2shooter9 ай бұрын
I have been unable to use RAV Calibration with my X-SIGHT 5 while using my FX Maverick VP .30cal. I have got it to work by banging on my scope, and when it did record 240fps video, but only for one second. 👹
@son2j9 ай бұрын
@@n2shooter I checked with ATN and they replier "Hello, we had one other customer recently mention this to us and we are waiting to hear back from our development team on it. I will get you and update when I can." I will update my answer once I got. Thank you.
@roastntoast75509 ай бұрын
Did you get a new scope or did you just updated it the the new version? 🤔
@n2shooter9 ай бұрын
I updated it to the latest firmware version. But before that, I did have to send my scope in to get the updated to the previous version, and when that was done, I think they sent me a new scope, as the serial numbers were not the same.
@son2j9 ай бұрын
Can you share your scope mount for X-sight 5? I use Aero Precision Ultralight 30mm Scope Mount, Standard but still too short.
@n2shooter9 ай бұрын
I just use the ATN old QD mounts. $100.
@roastntoast75509 ай бұрын
Nice hit 👌
@n2shooter9 ай бұрын
Thanks a ton!
@roastntoast75509 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this video. What's the balistic coefficient of this slug?
@n2shooter9 ай бұрын
Thanks! The BC is .115.
@roastntoast75509 ай бұрын
Thank you. Are you satisfied with the ATN X-SIGHT 5 now? Are you still having problems with it? what update do you have on it?@@n2shooter
@MasonStormSunny9 ай бұрын
Are these sluga more accurate than the Hybrids?
@n2shooter9 ай бұрын
They are not, but just barely.
@ConditionZero7610 ай бұрын
Wow I'm glad I watched this. It made me realize how far superior my wraith Mini 4k picture is compared to either of these. Like I'm not even joking or being stupid, if what he just showed is actually what you see when looking through either of these atn scopes I'd send them both back. My 4k mini looks like I'm watching a movie on my Samsung 4k TV in the house.
@n2shooter9 ай бұрын
Yeah, you lose a ton of clarity when you use the 120fps mode, as that does not record is true 4K. I will do some more real-world videos in 4K as pesting season is upon us.
@ConditionZero769 ай бұрын
@n2shooter oh ok, I didn't realize that. I'll be curious to see the 4k videos. But thats good to know. Thanks
@Trad616610 ай бұрын
How is your 5 pro now with forward updates? Thansk
@n2shooter9 ай бұрын
I have had much better success with the latest 709 firmware. Holds zero, ballistic calculator works great. I have not tried RAV as of yet though, as I really would like to get some 240fps video. Unfortunately, the worst recording quality is when using 120fps mode, especially when you zoom in.
@janjohansson604010 ай бұрын
I was so near to buy it. Thanks mate... I go for my old Nikko Stirling Diamond 6-24x50 FFP with my.Sytong HT-66
@slick232611 ай бұрын
How do you like those mounts? I am using the ones that came in the box but was thinking about getting those or the other more expensive one.
@n2shooter9 ай бұрын
The mounts are okay. If you mount with the same torque, you can get 1-2 MOA repeatability most of the time. Good enough for groundhog and coyote, but not sure about anything smaller without checking zero. I use them on airguns, so I can't vouch for them on real steel.
@wtflolbtwlmfao6911 ай бұрын
Bro thanks for the review. Awesome. But if I hear recticle one more time, I'll avoid your videos like crazy.
@n2shooter9 ай бұрын
Please excuse my speech impediment. It does not affect my intelligence in the least. 😉
@Bryson872311 ай бұрын
I got some questions! If you have a moment that is.
@n2shooter11 ай бұрын
Sure!
@ph0rd11 ай бұрын
Reticle sounds exactly like the endings of the words theoretical and heretical. Hth
@n2shooter9 ай бұрын
If only I didn't have speech issues, I'd say it correctly. I best just stick to crosshairs!! 😂😂😂
@rexmontana305811 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review, I think I’m gonna go with the Wraith 4k max based on your review and several others that have reviewed the X5 with the same issues. The Wraith doesn’t have the WiFi, but has pretty much everything else and they say the image quality is better as well….. i was gonna get the X5, but not gonna happen now
@n2shooter11 ай бұрын
Again, in my sticky posted comment, all of my issues were resolved after I returned my device for repair. The Wraith may be a good choice if you don't want the fabulous Ballistics Calculator feature, which I depend on heavily!
@AtmoTacOutdoors11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video man. I’ve had the x-sight 4 for a while as you know, my first digital night/day scope. but I’ve since gotten a few other day/night scopes and honestly been shocked at how bad atn’s video quality is comparatively. my nve 53 is under 400 bucks and has an insanely clear image and FFP rangefinding reticles and ballistics calculator. (Just no LRF option) My most recent scope I bought is the wraith 4K max (499bucks) and it has a 200fps/ 1080p mode that’s very clear and allows you to see the slug traveling through the air for some very cool videos and also has a bunch of other modes including 4K/60. Both scopes completely blow my atn out of the water as far as both the day and night image quality goes. I don’t think I’ll go back to ATN honestly unless I need to use the LRF!
@n2shooter9 ай бұрын
Yeah, ATN screwed up on this. You lose a ton of detail in the higher frame rate modes because the sensor has to do line skipping instead of down scaling because the sensor can't be read fast enough. Could you send me a link to that 53 scope?
@royburkettjr7170 Жыл бұрын
Has the X Sight 5 improved since your video? I want to get this scope but I want the kinks ironed out and the app to work with the scope. Please let me know thanks.
@n2shooter10 ай бұрын
Well, it has improved with the update last week, ( vs 706), but I am not sure if it's up to the competition now. Now that the Arken Zulus, and other scopes are shipping with integrated Laser Rangefinders and Ballistic Calculators, ATN has lost its marketing edge.
@royburkettjr717010 ай бұрын
@@n2shooter I’m sticking with the ATN X Sight 4 K Pro it works for me. Maybe a year from now I might buy one maybe.
@alaingrenier663 Жыл бұрын
bad choice for the music
@ph0rd11 ай бұрын
I hear you because I detest virtually all music in videos. Yet we're not in control of what we like or don't like.. Interestingly, this was the first time I actually liked music in a video. It's not up to us what we like.
@n2shooter10 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@micheleperrone9124 Жыл бұрын
Hi, very interesting video. I have the generation 4 pro 3-14x, I wanted to ask you how do you extend the zoom beyond 14x? . I wasn't aware of this feature. I'd love to learn.😊
@n2shooter Жыл бұрын
If you go into settings and select zoom and change it to extended. Then you can zoom to 37.6x
@micheleperrone9124 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I'll try it right away🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🥰
@marksmith4627 Жыл бұрын
Great review! First time seeing your channel, now subbed! I am looking for my first Thermal sight and had my eye on the new X-Sight 5 but after your review, I may change my mind to one of the X-Sight 4 models, which would be your recommendation for a long range varminter? Thanks again for the great review! Will make recommendations to friends on your channel.
@n2shooter Жыл бұрын
I was going to get the new ATN Thor 5 XD, but I changed my mind when I was reviewing the differences in thermal performance from the newer 12um sensors to the older 17um sensors. The older sensors have lower thermal noise levels that the new ones. After comparing my AGM Taipan 256x192 12um thermal monocle with my 17um ATN THOR 4 640 scope, I'm glad I got the older one! www.reddit.com/r/airgunhunting/s/2xEqrT4FTy
@alramos292 Жыл бұрын
Ed, Another great shot!
@n2shooter Жыл бұрын
Thanks Al!
@SM-hj1fl Жыл бұрын
These guys need new software engineers, unstable software is a core feature of ATN scopes. I went to Sightmark, not as many features but it always works.
@n2shooter Жыл бұрын
I'm a Software Engineer myself, and I couldn't agree with you more!
@LDBecker Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this up. I took delivery on the ATN X-Sight 5 5-25 and am trying to sort it out still. I'll be using it on a Daystate Alpha Wolf .30 cal air gun. The 120fps footage isn't great... The 4k resolution isn't as good as one would hope, but to have all of that in one device is pretty amazing. I am hoping that with firmware upgrades, it becomes better -
@n2shooter Жыл бұрын
And another falsehood they told is the 240fps RAV video can only records for half a second and it does this at 1920x1440, then records the rest of the video at 30fps, regardless of which resolution you have selected.
@Eman3037 Жыл бұрын
Good video but the word is R-E-T-I-C-L-E NOT R-E-C-T-I-C-L-E. Thanks !
@n2shooter Жыл бұрын
I don't know why I was being all fancy, I should have just said CROSSHAIRS and called it a day! 😄
@Eman3037 Жыл бұрын
Good video though !@@n2shooter
@ConditionZero7610 ай бұрын
@@n2shooteror just say reticle lol 😂 not recticle...💯👍🏼
@gierhedd755 ай бұрын
😂😂
@drs3061 Жыл бұрын
16:09 hey first of all my hats off to you man well done review and very through review it is great that you use these atn scopes alot and you hunt so good job man and i am impressed and look to follow your more on you tube . Thank you for the review and being very detailed keep up the good work man i personally own and use the 4 k pro 5-20 scope i like it alot bit am looking at to getting one with the ballistic calculator
@n2shooter Жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch! I will have more content coming near the holidays!
@stevebzz8395 ай бұрын
it already has the BC built in, you just need to get a lrf or binox and then add all the ballistic info
@Utubeisazzho Жыл бұрын
Any issues with the 5? Seeing a lot of launch issues?
@n2shooter Жыл бұрын
Take a look at my full review: It has gotten much better after I sent my scope back for a final firmware upgrade. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2rEaGN5Yq1ko5osi=hpd4Yj5bGfGcRTsz
@Steve-Cross Жыл бұрын
Didn’t look focused when it was zoomed in.
@n2shooter Жыл бұрын
This is a digital scope. The highest fidelity is when it's zoomed out all the way. Additionally, you will have more fidelity when you are in the 4K 30 fps resolution vs the 1080p 120 fps mode. I believe this scope uses a bilinear filtering algorithm vs the nearest neighbor technique used in the X-SIGHT 4K Pro scope. They could have excellent quality if they allowed 1080p images at 30p, because then they could just linearly down scale. But what they do to increase the frame rate, is use a line skipping algorithm before they use bilinear filtering, which gives a double hit to the sharpness.
@ryanmickley3226 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the thorough review. I wanted to get one of these for my crossbow and use the reticle development tool as you did. Obviously I won't be getting one of these if it is still as flawed as you state in your video. I get so tired of companies releasing their equipment to the public to do all the beta testing. Anyway, has there been a firmware release that has actually fixed any of these issues? Thank you once again for your review.
@n2shooter Жыл бұрын
I agree completely! However, I have had great success after Isent my scope back in for repair and firmware upgrade, which addressed most all of my issues. I'm currently using this scope during small game season, and I hope to pop it back on my crossbow for some deer hunting later this month.
@ryanmickley3226 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for getting back to me- what firmware version are you using, and is there a specific reticle you would recommend for crossbow use, or did you design your own?@@n2shooter