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You'll need to play off your PC to be able to use the ultimates with non-vive headsets. I have a Quest 3 and I use virtual desktop for wireless streaming, it works.

Yep, gotta use the dongle. You can connect the dongle directly to the PC or use the extender included with the kit. It's a good idea to have the dongle set out in the open next to your play space, with your extender. I don't think the connection goes through walls very well.

@@undercoversteve so I can plug it into the pc directly thanks! I've been having trouble finding this out.

Are you past the return window? I bought mine on amazon and they have a pretty good return policy there.

@@undercoversteve Yeah, was thinking about that. I believe I still have a few days. Still hoping that they will eventually get better, I don't know.

@@BurstupTV Sucks yur having theses issues cause they work really well for me with the pico 4 tbh

@@tezzya7 Can you lie down on the couch with them? With a base station tracker such as 2.0 and 3.0 that always works. Lying down with the Ultimate Trackers is wonky and bad. And what happens when you leave the play space for a second with one of your feet? For me, it completely destroys calibration and tracking is gone until I do space calibration again. Sometimes I even have to restart SteamVR.

Quite a significant one. The Crystal Light has QLED panels, and 2880x2880 resolution per eye. It also has a wider FOV, with 115 degrees horizontal and 105 degrees vertical. There is also the optional Local Dimming version of the headset you can get, which improves the contrast (very dark black colors, which was the very impressive thing with this headset). The Quest 3 has LED panels, and 2064x2208 resolution per eye. FOV of 110 horizontal and 96 vertical. I had a ton of problems with quality control with this headset, but hey at least I'm getting my money back with the return. If you don't mind *potentially* wasting your time, you could go ahead and try this headset. It's definitely the most affordable PCVR option on the market as of now.

Here's a good VR headset comparison site, this was pretty helpful for my search. vr-compare.com/compare?h1=0q3goALzg&h2=6nd6PhR_A

No issues with mine and I have 2 quest 3 and Pimax crystal light. I have sold the rest. Visually the crystal light is 10 out of 10. First time I get amazed by VR. Audio with DMAS is 10 out of 10. I do not use the mic so I guess is bad. And passthrough cameras are horrible. As you can see quite the contrary of Quest 3. I think they are complementary VR if you have the cash. If you need to choose, quest 3 is an all rounder.

I considered getting a ModMic for it, but it's just silly that I would have to do that to begin with to at least get bearable mic quality.

no, sorry dawg😭

I don't really notice any changes with tracking, no. They did release a better version of the room calibrator like a month ago, before then I had some problems with it.

​@@undercoversteve your video before this one the room calibrator was updated?

Nah I made the videos after the update. The trackers are out of beta now too (for non-Vive headsets). They were in beta support for like a year I think.

Yeppers, I really just want something outta the box that will work.

Thanks. Hopefully it all gets ironed out for the future.

can you please help me! I’m having trouble with mine, they’re in my steam vr says everything is connected but once I’m in vrchat only my controllers and headset are worling

@@Ari-vf7xo Do you have the dongle connected to your pc?

hey man ive been wondering do the vive tracker ultimates work with the quest 3? i want to get them but im scared they dont and i have a actual pc as well (if that matters)

@@shanxysmanx they do work w the quest 3 but they require pcvr atm So if you’re on stand-alone I wouldn’t suggest these until they make support for them (if they do) I’m using a quest 2 hooked up to a gaming laptop tho and they’ve been working nicely

I don't think the height of your ceiling really matters too much, it's just if there's enough variation of stuff for the trackers to place "markers" onto. A blank ceiling is *probably* fine, since it relies on tracking to your walls mostly in my experience.

@@undercoversteve interesting, thank you :DD

Do you have them? Does it work standalone now, or are you using PCVR?

owner of these, bad idea! ultra janky set up that's heavily reliant on your room having perfect studio lighting (i mean this btw) and contrasting wallpapered walls (had to deck out my bedroom with ArUco markers printed on A4 paper to get these to track in the first place, no LIDAR or anything fancy here! just crappy cameras) pcvr software which is buggy and unfinished (STILL IN BETA :/) that has you inaccurately scan your room from only the middle of your playspace (thought you could just turn these on and have them learn your surroundings? NOPE!) after consistently getting bad maps, i asked on the discord and was told by a mod to (after the room scan, before clicking save map) walk around and point the trackers from various angles at various parts of my room, in hope of it bettering the map (WHICH IT DID! ...but there is zero indication you are allowed to do this, nor does it actually correct your map grade, you're just supposed to FEEL that it helped during gameplay 🤦) on the subject of the discord, viveverse is filled with confused and or angry people that (like me) couldn't be bothered to wait for slimes nor afford real vive trackers and are now regrettably stuck with these paper weights... seriously, do not buy this e-waste "tracking device" as it has already made obsolete by the existence of much better tracking methods (slimes & other imu derivatives, previous vive trackers & friends, etc.) ...oh and don't even get me started on the scaling issue - if you're planning on pairing these with an oculus headset, GOOD LUCK LOL

@horrorfan1978 thanks bro, order is now canceled.

Scaling issue? I use an Oculus Quest 3 with these and it works okay for me. My lighting is an LED strip, a lamp, and my ceiling lights. After a finnicky setup I got them to work fairly reliably, as long as you don't cover the cameras. I'm not selling out here, they really do work for me lol. There's such a mixed response to these that has me worried about my own purchase. But it works for me, so, eh?

@undercoversteve if it works just fine for you, then fuck it. Use em.

@@undercoversteve yea the further you go from the center of your play-space the more offset the trackers become from reality due to scaling inconsistencies with non htc headsets, i for one have a big room so this is easily noticeable i’m not accusing you of anything, but majority of the people who used these and are satisfied either have mastered/overcome the jank, or are in denial to justify their subpar purchase XD the massive red flag tho is how little updates these trackers have received, i mean the software still being in beta is criminal it’s clear htc does not care about this product in the slightest and has left it to die until further notice, i think it’s actually more likely they release a second iteration (ultimate 2) than ever finishing these :(

Yeah, it is a pain when it loses tracking, having to wait for it to sync back up. I definitely did notice that sometimes when I sit down, the cameras would get obscured, causing that whole issue. Ideally there would be a solution that would be base station less, not cost so much money, and not have drift. Aren't quite there yet, I suppose :(

That's a fair take. However, in order to even use Vive 3.0s or Tundras, you need a lighthouse setup. ($150 dollars per base station * 2 = $300) and then the Vive 3.0 trackers would be 130 * 3 = 390, so add it all up and it would be $690 dollars. So if you own a Quest 3 like I do, or some other standalone headset, the Ultimates actually come out to be cheaper than getting a full Lighthouse setup. Now that part about getting more than 3 points of tracking is true, which is unfortunate. There is no way I am going to spend $400 dollars so I can see my elbows in VR, absolutely not.

@@undercoversteve What base stations also do that hasn't been mentioned is they give you more options and modularity. Index controllers, lighter and smaller trackers for increased mobility and seamless integration with other headsets if you upgrade to a base station-tracked headset further down the road (And there's are a lot of good ones). You're committing yourself to a proprietary and less reliable ecosystem that doesn't afford you any expandability outside of just buying more super expensive trackers with the Ultimate's. These trackers aren't very popular because VR enthusiasts are savvy to these flaws. $90 less isn't much cheaper for what is a false economy in the long term.

@@T00DEEPBLUE True. True. I personally do feel like the market is moving away from base station tracking and moving toward mostly inside-out tracking, but there are exceptions of that (Somnium VR1, Lighthouse edition of Pimax Crystal Light, etc etc). So, in the end, it's really down to what you prefer. You do make a convincing argument; there's definitely some more I could've gone over in my video.

@@undercoversteve People have been saying that base stations are going obsolete since the Quest 2 came out. The Bigscreen Beyond is base station-tracked and that was released just last year and is excellent. Pimax are still making base station modules for all their newest headsets. Same with Varjo. New VR hardware like the UDCAP gloves from Udexreal are coming onto the market now and they're touted as the best hand tracking gloves the industry has ever seen, and their recommendation is to use base stations. Base stations are still considered the gold standard for high end VR. And with still loads of brand new products coming onto the market to natively support them, they're not going away any time soon.

@@undercoversteve Don't you have a quest 3? Why not just use the camera tracking for your elbows?

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