Des mecs comme Liu Jang’s ou Zou Jinguan (en gym) sont bien plus fort et le font hyper proprement
@gymbestedit14 күн бұрын
@@LeoVanvrekom Mais la championne olympique en titre sur les anneaux reste Liu Yang 🤷♂️
@kaushikghosh196614 күн бұрын
D score 2G -1.40 2D -0.80 1C -0.30 1E -0.50 2B -0.40 Bonus -0.10 EGR -2.0 TOTAL - 5.50
@gymbestedit14 күн бұрын
Yeah, you’re right, when I made this video, I thought, that dismount bonus applies on floor too. Thanks for comment)
@om167616 күн бұрын
3.5
@gymbestedit16 күн бұрын
@@om1676 lil bit more)
@papertowel347223 күн бұрын
Man I really like these videos, please more rings man. I commented on another video but I would like to know why you did not deduct the ring support on his arms in the planche (Maybe its not deductible or the 2s hold deduction was enough?) his line in that planche was also incorrect. As for his inverted cross with the 0.3 deduction, won't his soft back also be deducted (spine curvature). Anyways none the less awesome video!
@papertowel347223 күн бұрын
Oh ya and the slight raise which he then corrected in the nakayama
@gymbestedit21 күн бұрын
@@papertowel3472 Yeah, I should deduct for planche position .1, and .1 for Nakayama. Inverted cross was deducted .3 for position, I think that’s enough.) By the way, thanks for your feedback :)
@papertowel347220 күн бұрын
@@gymbestedit No problem, thank you for your response. Awesome video!
@papertowel347223 күн бұрын
How come is it you did not deduct when he raises his shoulders slightly high in the strength press (Balandin 2 and Cross-Maltese) even if he then corrects his shoulders, he would still be deducted for raising them. To be fair he has one of the neatest lines in these presses with his arms but technically still deductable. Also I would argue in one of the maltese deductions you gave him, his shoulders were in the -5-0-5 degree range which is considered "perfect". Also a gymnastic issue I guess but a 5-10 degree should maybe have a lower deduction then 0.1 but Liu's mistakes are not like one who does them with a 15 degree angle. Anyways great video.
@gymbestedit21 күн бұрын
@@papertowel3472 Thank you so much for your feedback👍. I will keep this in mind for the future
@Edward-W25 күн бұрын
1:15 doesn't look like it's even possible for him to complete it without bent feet. Would they really deduct for that when it's literally just down to his body proportions?
@gymbestedit24 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, yes. Same rules for everyone. If you can't do an Adler without deductions for flexed feet, that's only your problem(.
@Edward-W24 күн бұрын
@gymbestedit dang that is rough 😕
@gymbestedit23 күн бұрын
@@Edward-W I mean, there are a lot of skills, that only gymnasts with short legs can do without deductions. F.e. Tippelt on Pbars, Stalder legs together on Hbar or diffrent piked somersaults are much easier for someone with short legs. The harsh reality😐
@gymbestedit10 күн бұрын
@Iwillnottellyoumyname yeah, for sure
@SaigeWhitney29 күн бұрын
I really like appreciate how you show what can be considered a deduction because it really gives insight into what that judges are looking at in a routine as flawless as this is and it helps give an idea what a perfect routine would look like.
@hamzabuhh1404Ай бұрын
Unfortunately you can't connect single salto twists anymore
@gymbesteditАй бұрын
@@hamzabuhh1404 Yeah.. you can connect, but you won’t receive a combo bonus :(
@hamzabuhh1404Ай бұрын
@gymbestedit i just said that because i saw you type the connection value But can you connect like Whip back(B) + 2.5 twists(D) + salto fwd stretched(B) + 2 fwd twists(D) And get the 0.3 connection value?
@gymbesteditАй бұрын
@@hamzabuhh1404 Yes, correct
@hamzabuhh1404Ай бұрын
There are a lot of connections i thought that they doesn't even make any sense but oh boi was i wrong
@Brisa_143Ай бұрын
sooo good !
@SaigeWhitneyАй бұрын
excellent video thank you so much
@gymbesteditАй бұрын
@@SaigeWhitney Appreciate it)
@SaigeWhitneyАй бұрын
Really nice video thx
@om1676Ай бұрын
Stephen should make it a skill named after him
@gymbesteditАй бұрын
@@om1676 For sure! I believe, it’s very difficult to perform
@Valdecir-c2lАй бұрын
😱😱😱😱😱😵😵🤓
@alexandreleblanc95822 ай бұрын
please indicate to us where the hop occurs in the first element, because I do not see it...
@gymbesteditАй бұрын
It’s not so high as on the pic from the COP. But it was a hop. And yeah, for the ideal performance, you need to do hop earlier and obviously higher :)
@alexandreleblanc9582Ай бұрын
@@gymbestedit otherwise the series is good, youre the only channel that shows all the skills in code of points
@gymbesteditАй бұрын
@@alexandreleblanc9582 Thank you!) Trying to do my best)
@Clipsgymk2 ай бұрын
Could you make specific videos of each apparatus with their most common deductions? Example: 0.1 deductions on floor, 0.3 deductions on floor, pommel horse, vault... There are several videos like this about women's gymnastics on the internet, but zero about men, and you are the only channel that makes score execution videos, and i love it
@gymbestedit2 ай бұрын
Nice idea, I’ll try it out. Thanks for watching:)
@otow272 ай бұрын
At the Olympics he had 6.7 in the qf and 6.6 in the ef, do you think that has changed? Did he have the series downgraded or did he change any element?
@gymbestedit2 ай бұрын
@@otow27 Yes, in the OG he didn’t make another Tkachev after Adler+Stretched Tkachev
@lam53322 ай бұрын
🎉🎉勁🎉🎉
@kiambotebbonikay2 ай бұрын
We miss Nagornyy and the Russians on the international stage
@otow272 ай бұрын
Wow, that's why people say that if you judge gymnastics with cameras the scores will go down 14,600, the judges are crazy 😮 he got above 15 in this series, I thought he lost some points in the connection: adler+kolman, but you didn't deducted anything for him, arms are very flexed and he always moves on the bar too, he did this in all the other finals
@gymbestedit2 ай бұрын
@@otow27 Yeah, it’s always like that) Adler+Kolman is actually pretty clean, but although, he lost 0.4 on it🤔. About hand correction, yes, he do it really often (in this routine), but again, when I watch it in slow-mo, I can deduct even more)) And the score will be scary low😅
@punchingkwan30522 ай бұрын
@@gymbesteditdoesn’t alder had slightly less strict deductions on handstands? I believe only will get deducted after 30 degrees, and I think judges seldom deduct for flex feet for in bars, as it’s unfair for gymnast with long legs
@gymbestedit24 күн бұрын
@@punchingkwan3052 Deductions for Adler: 0-15 degrees: no deduction; 15-30 degrees: 0.1; 30-60 degrees - 0.3; 60-90: 0.5. Same rules for everyone, so short legs - no deductions and easier performance)
@Marketoromagnolo2 ай бұрын
he deserved olympics gold, pity for his mistake
@gymbestedit2 ай бұрын
For sure. I believe, he will show in 2028). Really great all-around worker!
@ClaytonTurner12 ай бұрын
1:45 okay for real what happened to the O'Neill why is it called the Jonasson now?
@eunicemosweu5692 ай бұрын
I saw eight twists
@Clipsgymk2 ай бұрын
Where can I get more videos of E score from mag gymnastics? I’m very excited to learn more about it, but there are almost no videos 😔
@gymbestedit2 ай бұрын
@@Clipsgymk Next video would be an E score, so, stay tuned) I’m really trying to do my best
@michaelnugent8902 ай бұрын
Thanks for scoring these!!!
@gymbestedit2 ай бұрын
@@michaelnugent890 You’re welcome)
@qasimsayah2 ай бұрын
Why is the bonus in dismount: 0.6?
@gymbestedit2 ай бұрын
@@qasimsayah There is a new dismount requirement, F value dismount +0.6 (for the dismount requirement), G - 0.7, H - 0.8 etc.
@qasimsayah2 ай бұрын
@@gymbestedit Thank you very much❤❤❤
@gymbestedit2 ай бұрын
@@qasimsayah You’re welcome)
@Marketoromagnolo2 ай бұрын
it s criminal he was not selected for olympics
@gymbestedit2 ай бұрын
@@Marketoromagnolo He was 0.768 away from the Olympic quota :(
@zotiics65742 ай бұрын
@@gymbestedit he was also left off the national team sent to world championships in 2023 even though he was reigning AA Australian champ
@gymbestedit2 ай бұрын
@@zotiics6574 Interesting, why is it so?
@michaelnugent8902 ай бұрын
I was sad that he didn't make the Olympic team, but at least that part was fair. The 2023 Worlds team was a legitimate crime to leave him off the squad. Not defensible.
@gymbestedit2 ай бұрын
@@michaelnugent890 Why wasn't he taken?( Do you know?
@otow272 ай бұрын
he's a very clean gymnast
@gymbestedit2 ай бұрын
@@otow27 Can’t argue)
@Clipsgymk3 ай бұрын
Curious, because I've never seen Diego make this element in the stretched position 🤨
@gymbestedit3 ай бұрын
@@Clipsgymk KZbin search: „2006 World Cup Final Gymnastics - Men's & Women's Individual Apparatus Finals, Day 1”, timecode: 22:00 :)
@Clipsgymk3 ай бұрын
@@gymbestedit I saw that there this element stretched in the code, but I've always known it as piked, tucked and another version, I'll see if I can find it to show you 1: 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sISWanxsetOtlaMsi=G0On8IowlA_JPpS-
@Clipsgymk3 ай бұрын
@@gymbestedit Hypolito 1(Piked): search Diego Hypólito, Tricampeão da Copa do Mundo no Solo - Esporte Espetacular Hypolito 2(Tucked): search Diego Hypolito - FX Qual (Moscow 2009) / Diego explica todos os detalhes de seu novo salto, o 'Hypolito 2' Hypolito3: search Diego Hypolito - 'Hypolito 3' / Diego Hypolito Paris Bercy 2007 I saw that there is the stretched version in the code, but I had never seen it, I always thought it was the piked one, but apparently there were only 2 elements left, right, the 3 doesn't seem to exist anymore
@gymbestedit3 ай бұрын
@@Clipsgymk Yeah. I think, it's like the Cassina, you can do it piked or stretched, no diffrence
@Marketoromagnolo3 ай бұрын
should have won olympics over the japanese
@Djbdjdns3 ай бұрын
Boheng fell tho
@dennisdesormier68863 ай бұрын
This is a nice video, and I appreciate the work that people like you put into them. Thank you so much. One error I caught - the video of the "Gagnon" (1) is actually a D element, kind of like the Suarez or Harada except from long swing. The Gagnon starts with a felge (peach) action, which makes it a fair amount easier, I think.
@gymbestedit3 ай бұрын
@@dennisdesormier6886 Yeah, my mistake😬, you’re right. Thank you for the feedback)
@dennisdesormier68863 ай бұрын
@@gymbestedit No problem, and thank you again for the videos!
@gymbestedit3 ай бұрын
@@dennisdesormier6886 I appreciate it :)
@giampietrorivoli80073 ай бұрын
there is not dismount in floor
@Marketoromagnolo3 ай бұрын
Comombia became number 3 top team in America, is now ahead of Brazil
@gymbestedit3 ай бұрын
@@Marketoromagnolo The’re developing very quickly 👀
@Warthog3333 ай бұрын
What’s with the garbage music?
@gymbestedit3 ай бұрын
@@Warthog333 KZbin audio library :)
@Marketoromagnolo3 ай бұрын
I hope he will win worlds and olympics
@gymbestedit3 ай бұрын
@@Marketoromagnolo He’s got everything to do that
@finnhall94783 ай бұрын
Floor doesn't have the dismount bonus
@lastwhisper18323 ай бұрын
Can you make a jarman floor D-score analysis
@gymbestedit3 ай бұрын
@@lastwhisper1832 I would really like to do it! But KZbin doesn’t allow video from Olympics, bcs of copyright:/ I need to find one that's copyright free.. I search, but I couldn’t find. You can find some Jarman’s D scores on my channel, but not from Olympics
@mahmoudsaeed38053 ай бұрын
liukin ===} val=I not H
@gymbestedit3 ай бұрын
@@mahmoudsaeed3805 It will be an „I” in the new cycle. Now it’s still „H”
@jemarcolambot13203 ай бұрын
More of this type of analysis please. Simone biles Jordan Chiles Artem Dolgopyat Ray Zapata
@gymbestedit3 ай бұрын
@@jemarcolambot1320 Not a problem, I’ll keep in mind. I’m actually not really good at WAG scoring)
I thought the dismount for the element group only worked on the other apparatus and not floor bc floor already has 4 element groups
@armandnoel88633 ай бұрын
Thank you ! Need more on the others apparatus. Thank very much for helping us understanding
@gymbestedit3 ай бұрын
@@armandnoel8863 I appreciate it! Yep, I’m working on it)
@qasimsayah3 ай бұрын
Why is the bonus in dismount: 0.7?
@GageKalleyGymnastics3 ай бұрын
In this code, there is no dismount requirement, instead it is your dismount value 2x. So if you do a C dismount, it’s worth .6 and if you do an f it’s 1.2
@qasimsayah3 ай бұрын
@@GageKalleyGymnastics G dismount= 0.7 =1.4?
@GageKalleyGymnastics3 ай бұрын
@@qasimsayah yep
@qasimsayah3 ай бұрын
@@GageKalleyGymnastics But why did you give him only 0.7? You should give him 1.4
@GageKalleyGymnastics3 ай бұрын
@@qasimsayahin this video, he gave him 0.7 for the skill itself, and another 0.7 for the element group because of the g dismount
@front07203 ай бұрын
0:35 Is this a Japanese handstand?
@gymbestedit3 ай бұрын
Oh, sorry, my mistake😬
@wesleylima14193 ай бұрын
This format where the score is deducted from the highest possible score is the best one you've used so far. I think you should keep it!
@gymbestedit3 ай бұрын
@@wesleylima1419 Yeah, I think that's better too)
@cocoroni10313 ай бұрын
Sad for the 0.5 deduction. It seems non-acrobatic elements are underused when they can often be deduction free. Shinnosuke has 3-4 non-acrobatic elements on floor and has a good E score. Partly due to his landings; partly due to less deductions from non-acrobatic elements.
@gymbestedit3 ай бұрын
Yeah, it could have been gold, for sure. You're right, but it's difficult for some gymnasts, to make, like 4 non-acrobatic elements, including Manna to handstand) And also, D score is not going to be very high, with 4 C or D value skills