Thank you 👻. I was a bit late with my videos...

Oh yes... I agree... and the video upload from today (Fear in the Darkness) goes in this direction. 😉

Thank you so much for your comment. This is exactly what it should be, a journey with surprises. It's the same for me when I am doing it; at the beginning I don't know where the sounds will bring me. And suddenly, there is a direction that I haven't seen before.

Thank you. I am happy that I bought these synths. So much fun.

Hallo Andreas, danke für Deine Worte. Ja, Musik oder Kunst allgemein gibt auch immer die Möglichkeit, in andere Welten einzutauchen oder Dinge zu verarbeiten. Wobei es mir darum heute nicht mehr geht, sondern es ist eher die Experimentierfreude, die mich treibt. Und weil es eben heute möglich ist, das zu tun, was wir tun, ohne dafür (Profi-)Musiker sein zu müssen. Mein Kanal diente zunächst dazu, meinen Freundeskreis auf dem Laufenden zu halten. Dass die Resonanz größer war als gedacht, hat mich schließlich ermutigt, mehr zu tun. Wenn ich jemanden inspirieren kann, Träume zu verwirklichen, sich zu trauen, auch Imperfektes mit anderen zu teilen, oder einfach Spaß zu haben, dann ist es das wert. 🙂

Oh yes, I googled... a granular synth. Nothing for me at this time but great sounds can be produced. And I have seen it before. I watch videos about gear every day, this helps me learning. No chance for big stands here. I only have a table that I can use for a few hours. So everything I do is connected just before and will be disconnected after. From the case to the table and back into the case. This needs always an extra hour or even two sometimes. That's why I always have different setups and make different sounds, depending on the time I have. I am happy to have the smaller Zoom mixer now so there is space for an extra desktop synth on the table. But I need the bigger mixer when I want to do overdub recordings, e.g. for adding the theremine. I still prefer recording dawless. 🙈

@@RainerMuenz Ah yes I know how you feel, while I was at home practicing and recording before going back to the garage where I do it now, I used to pack into a wooden table and then pack back down… times change though so you never know what round the corner… maybe just a two level small stand for the table top 😉 I get where you’re coming from and especially recording dawless… I usually record into the zoom H4n and then do post production in the daw. And if there’s a few instruments I run them into my small mixer… but actually the H4n sound crisper and better than the mixer… Eventually we may both get a great quality mixer for recording as many channels as we want! 😱🌈💎

Although I have a house, the rooms inside are not really big, and we have too many things... currently I try to find shelves and other places for all my gear, boxes for all the cables, and so on. I might sell my record collection someday, then I would have a small room for a little studio, maybe... but not sure how many synths I could use with the installed electrics. I don't mind. It is as it is, and I am happy to do what I can. But that's the reason why I am limited with video recordings playing the synths. No nice professional area around me. But I do have ideas for videos and already bought some equipment for room decoration... maybe when there is vacation around Xmas. 👻💀👀 The H4n is really great, and I like all my Zoom gear. With the Livetrak L6 I have 10 channels but 4 stereo, so actually 6 instruments. 2 stereo channels can be split to mono, so there is more flexibility if needed. The L-12 has only 2 stereo channels, so I often use mono channels together for stereo synths. And I have two Behringer MX400 mini mixer, no recordings possible, but 4 mono channels are combined to 1 mono channel. So I combine my Behringer mono synths and send the sum to my effect pedals, then I have 1 stereo signal for a Zoom mixer. And while playing I do not only tweak the synths but also the mixer. 🙂

@ Hi mate, yes we do our best with what we’ve got don’t we. Yes well at least we can do what we are currently doing which is a lot of fun… times change and options may become more apparent later… I get you… Sound like you’re making the most of what you have and doing well with it mate 😃🌈

@rickhopkinson You are so right. And as long as it's not a business but a hobby, it's most important to have fun. 🙂

Thank you, Rick. Two really good synths in my opinion.

@ You’re welcome 👍 Yes I looked at the Liven Ambient 0 and it does look good… not had a look at the SH-4d though… haha I have a job to do now so I’ll put a review of it on now!

@@rickhopkinson The SH-4d is great as you have a synth and a groove box together. More a synth than a groove box, fortunately, so that's a difference to the Novation Circuits. But you have three parts for synth sounds plus a forth part for drum sounds that you can combine together in a sequence. Or you just play it like a normal desktop synth, tweaking sounds, using hundreds of presets incl. emulations of other Roland synths. Or do all at the same time, the polyphony is high enough. The Sonicware is a bit too lofi in my opinion, at least I thought so in the first time. While playing I was not happy with background noises... but well, maybe this was something else as this noise disappeared in the recordings. I am not into the synthesis yet and still play with (tweaked) predefined sounds, but this is already much fun. Both nice to have synths for this kind of music.

@ Yes they sound good to me, I bet you’re having fun with them… I was looking at the Liven when considering the GR-Mega and the Lemondrop… it did look good… I still have my eyes on a GR-Mega but will save it for later if I still like it’s engine after more demo videos… I need to hear more diverse samples being granulated because most of the demos so far, although good, all sound very similar… That Roland does look interesting, I watched some of the Loopop review earlier after your message… It’s great to have gear like this isn’t it 🙏🏻❤️👻

@rickhopkinson Have to check the GR-Mega, is there really a synth that I haven't heard about? Honestly, I don't know what it is. But if you are considering it, it might be worth a look. 😉 We are living in a fantastic time concerning the possibiltiy of getting good but affordable gear. Currently, I have two on pre-order: the Stylophone Theremine and the Behringer Grind. When available I will also order the drone synth by Stylophone. No more plans then. Too many synths and not enough space. I said I will buy all Behringer mini and micro, but I might avoid the bigger ones (well, most of them, I guess). 🤣🤷‍♂️

About 300 Euro / Dollar in the shops that I know.

Good morning and thank you. New it is about 300 Euro / Dollar.

Thank you. I was really surprised that there was no hit in YT and not in Google concerning a Behringer Deuteron 'synth' when I made the video. I thought this could not only be my idea... well, I am a chemist but other synth lovers have a scientific background as well. And many people have a good basic knowledge to have such an idea. I am wondering if more people will use this term in the future ;-)

Thank you. These synths have so much potential. I love the Neutron with the self-generating sound possibilities, and the Proton might be even more complex. Great value.

I was not really happy with the noises I made in my first attempt but I see the potential of the synth (when in the right hands). It has so many possibilities. Next time I will use the Proton alone and find out how to create nicer sounds - for this video I had to combine the two synths (otherwise the headline wouldn't be right). Their behaviour after patching was not what I expected (but I guess this is just my lack of knowledge what should have happened) and I found it easier to use both on their own instead of plugging them together. If you already have a Neutron, the Proton is almost a must ;-)

@@RainerMuenz try not to be too hard on yourself. I think you did fine.

@Pablo668 Thank you so much

I love the Proton. But I don't think it really adds much if you already have a Neutron. I think it's better to pair it with more experimental semi-modulars that can do things it can't.

Agree. I was surprised how good it sounds alone and together with the Model 15.

Usually I use the Zoom LiveTrak L-12 for recording but this time a smaller setting with the H4n recorder. I made some more sounds but some tended to oversteer and I wasn't satisfied. I prefer the mixer.

C'est peut-être juste mon jeu. Ou un bruit de fond? L'enregistrement a été réalisé avec un smartphone.

Thank you so much.

Thank you. Good to know.

Thank you.

Thank you. Yes, I made fhe update before recording these sounds.

@@RainerMuenz very nice. I’ve been on the fence about this board, but I’m definitely leaning towards pulling the trigger on this one.

Maybe you have seen a price drop at Thomann and perhaps at other sellers, too. A good chance to get it... I really like the keybed, used the aftertouch quite a lot for this kind of sounds.

Thank you. This synth is really special. I like it.

Hey, quite easy. The Edge has a sequencer and makes the sound without an external source, the output goes to the Zoom input (mono in this case) and the Zoom output goes to the mixer. No computer or DAW involved here.

Oh yes, I know what you mean. This is the synthesizer kind of gear with 150 sounds. A quite similar looking is an effect unit. And then some other gear with very similar names but different design and functions. This confused me a lot.

Yes, you are right, it depends on the tablet. But Yamaha lists only Google and Samsung devices as compatible, no other brand. All my other apps are running fine with the Teclast.

@@RainerMuenz I agree with the fact that it should have more universal apps. Luckily from what I gather you can do 90% of stuff through the controls themselves, as long as you learn key combos

Yes, I need to learn. I hoped a tablet would help but this one will not.

Thank you so much for your comment. This is really motivating. In the meantime I received two more pedals and another one is on the way, so maybe more videos will follow. I haven't ordered the 11 effects pedal and also not the falling star delay, but maybe I will do someday. I received a Dolamo Vintage Distortion pedal and a Dolamo Chorus, and a different reverb pedal is on the way. I am quite optimistic that these will work fine, too.

Thanks for your comment. I have just received a vintage distortion pedal but wasn't able to test it so far. And a chorus pedal is on the way. I am really surprised that there is no noise because that's what I have sometimes seen in other videos.

Yes, the reduced price is very fine. I was surprised to see that drop so early. Can't you chance the volume on an individual level? I can't remember if this is possible.

@@RainerMuenzI have studied the manual a bit and, yes, there is the possibility to increase the sensitivity on the full set of pads, but I don't see the way to do that for only one pad. What I have found is that using left thumb for KICK instead of doing it also with right hand, lets me get a louder sound out of it... As I am still learning the basic things, maybe for my playing it is better that way. What I don't want is risk my technique because of that (I have followed the YAMAHA intro videos and they use the right hand for KICK, SNARE and HI-HAT). I will keep trying...

@JoseVGavila I see. Thanks for explanation. I wasn't sure if the volume is a global setting for the kit or flexible for pads. This would make sense for a firmware update.

@@RainerMuenz Found it !!!. Just select Menu -> Trigger then press ENTER and then, with the arrows, go up to ADGain. By default, each PAD is 46. I have upped KICK to 60 and lowered SNARE1 and SNARE2 to 40, and that alone feels pretty better!. Now I will fine-tune it

@@RainerMuenz I wrote a message and it has dissapeared!. Let's try again... I have found it !!!. The way to do it is by pressing MENU -> Trigger then press ENTER and then, with the arrows, locate ADGain. It is 46 by default for all pads. You press each pad and can select an individual value. I have set it to 60 for KICK and 40 for SNARE1 and 2 and it feels lots better. I will fine-tune that, but it is a big advance for me

Thanks for your comment. Actually, I am currently learning this synth myself so I wouldn't feel prepared enough for makling a tutorial. For this video I used the wave forms with the factory values and changed only semitones. I also played a bit with the pulse width of the square wave. Most of the time I changed cutoff frequencies and resonance, distortion and the depth of the filter envelope. And of course the mix of the wave forms. Maybe this helps a bit.

Thank you. I am still experimenting and learning but it makes so much fun.

Really? This was my experience with the partly refund of the Kickstarter campaign but I made good experience after buying other products. But MEDO changed my opinion about Donner significantly.

Thanks for your comment. Good idea, I have a looper but didn't use it here.

Inzwischen frage ich mich das auch. Ich wohl doch nicht...

Maybe beginners who are interested in easy to use 'toys' but in my opinion this is not intuitive enough. I thought it might be interesting when I heard about the kickstarter campaign, but when it was shipped months later I lost interest and don't use it. Also, I don't see myself playing with it in a hotel room while travelling.

Thank you. Really sad that Mike O. is retired but he will hopefully have some good years without the pressure of composing something new.

Thank you very much.

Thank you very much.

lol I looked up reviews, you can keep playing in the ambient lighting :)

@PurpleKoco To be honest, it was the first time that I tried this (bad) light. And I was (negatively) surprised that my HD camera (meanwhile more than 10 years old) did not make sharp pictures under these conditions. My smartphone camera is even better. But as you probably know know, I mostly tweaked the cutoff (high pass filter) and resonance plus the depth and drive of the filter section.

@@RainerMuenz technology surprises us with let downs all the time. I’ve done live production before and I’ve made the decision I want to make music. I want to use synths. I found you bc I watched some tools that Animal Collective uses and yours popped up 42 minutes old. I dig the sounds and exploration.

@PurpleKoco Wow. I am almost always suprised what YT does. My videos does not appear where I think they should... on the other hand this brings me visitors that usually won't find me... ;-) Have you already decided which synth(s) you want to use?

Hi Rainer 👋 this is an interesting and varied soundscape that you’ve created here… I enjoyed it. Well done mate 👍

Thank you so much for your nice comment. This makes me happy. And I hope you will get your package very soon. By the way, I have received the partly refund to my Paypal account (but I had to pay the Paypal fees - don't think this is nice but well, they didn't need to refund us at all, so I guess it's OK). I am not really into guitars because I can't play them... but I do have a Donner DST 100 strat type (just for making some sounds that I might mix into synth tunes). I am always interested to learn about instruments, gear, companies, thanks for the hint. I will check these. I don't have an acoustic guitar yet (but thought about buying one someday later).🙂 Edit: Well, I do know Lavame, saw this before but didn't remember the name. Hyvibe is new to me but interesting.

Sorry for that...

Exactly. In the meantime I installed the app and updated the firmware. But I still don't see how to change sounds. There are none in the app if I'm not blind. It's unfinished in my opinion and nothing I need.

@@RainerMuenz ok, there is a pdf download for instructions. English and German :) Also, under "school" there are videos. Just going through it now.... Let's see how this goes

@TheBrainvision Yes, I have downloaded the manual on my computer. It is optimized for reading on a smartphone (what I don't want to do). Had to make everything bigger on screen but still inconvenient to use. So I stopped quickly and put the MEDO back in the box. More time is needed to learn it but I was most surprised that I couldn't see any of the promised sounds in the app. Do I really need a manual for clicking on tabs in an app? All strange.

It works better with the app. Accurate bpm change. Quantize. Swap out sounds. It's still pretty much a toy :)

@@RainerMuenz it works with the phone. You can upload local files. There is a library of various drum sounds, leads and chords. It's geared towards an app with the phone, unfortunately.

You are so right. It's my first purchase through a Kickstarter campaign, and probably the last. Saving 50 % was a reason, but now they reduced the retail price and I am still waiting for a partly refund.

Exactly my experience so far. No idea how to change sounds or other presets. It is now listed in their shop but no further material like a manual. Yes, this product is either not ready for the market or a very expensive toy.

Please tell me if you are ever able to get it to connect to a PC and change the sounds. I've tried on 2 different computers with multiple cables, and even though the computer recognizes it, their software does not. I also tried using it with the iPhone app and the same thing happens. I can use it as a Bluetooth speaker for my iPhone, but the app cannot communicate with the device over Bluetooth. It's very frustrating to say the least!

I have downloaded the Medo Synth software from their product page on my computer (Windows 10), connected via USB and was able to change sounds. Have you tried Medo Synth or only the Donner smartphone app?

@@RainerMuenz The manual and the software are on the donner download page when I look--not sure if they were a month ago, but there are pretty extensive instructions available now, at any rate...

Yes, I downloaded that all. But I am still not happy. I was hoping for a box that I can use without any software. But I need software to change sounds, as far as I understood so far.

Thanks for your opinion. That's why I am wondering what the target group is. Kids? With my today's knowledge (and equipment) I wouldn't order it.

A Toy for kids discovering sample sounds

If I understand the quick manual right, you can do firmware updates by phone or by computer. It seems to be your choice. A JD-08 is interesting. I am thinking about the SH-4d.

I don't know. I am not the programmer of KZbin.

Oh, I see... it was actually a simple setup. The Modwave was connected to the Mooer pedal (L/R output to L/R input), and the pedal was connected to a stereo channel of the Zoom LiveTrak L-12 mixer. That's all. On the photo you can see more gear because I tried to record a triangle with reverb the same day, so there is a Shure micro connected to a Zoom Multistomp, but this was not used in this video.

Thank you. I am happy that you like it. I just play what I feel, had no lessons (just books and videos), and I might play wrong or 'forbidden' notes, but that does not matter to me. 🙂

@@RainerMuenz I think I’d agree that that is a good attitude and way forward… it keeps us making music and content… and naturally we will evolve and gain more experience and ability with time. Previously I’ve spent far too much time thinking, planning and then doing a bit, and repeating… not getting much made. So last September I said to myself. It’s now or never. Good work mate… let’s keep going!

@@rickhopkinson I absolutely understand what you mean and fully agree. In my case, I don't call myself a musician as I have to learn much more before I might come close enough (and I don't compose); nevertheless, trial and error, learning by doing, experimenting with gear and sounds is what I really enjoy. And that's why I bought many more instruments to play with, to test their abilities, their workflows, the combinations with others - and I found music and soundscapes that I was not aware about. Like dark ambient music. Sure, I knew it from movies, computer games etc.but had no idea how these sounds are created. Jamming in this or other directions is what makes me happy today. Recording bits and pieces, sharing with others, is an additional and previously unplanned benefit. Some sounds are accidential results, others are planned - but it's still far away from composing music. I really enjoy what you are doing, and I am looking forward to watching more of your videos (every day a few of them). I am much interested in the gear other people (like you) are using; interesting to see the 2600 amongst your equipment (this was and is not on my list due to practical reasons like space and workflow). It's a new hobby for me and it's just the beginning of a hopefully long trip.

@@RainerMuenz I love that mate… and trial and error I think is a good approach… I’m self taught in music composition and don’t know theory deeply… but just jumping in does absolutely no harm in my opinion. Since I bought my first synth and started sound designing and making patches, I’ve been hooked on synths. Originally I learned electronic organ from my grandparents in the late 80’s and then added electric guitar in the late 90’s… piano to me is played similar to organ so I class them as one… probably shouldn’t etc. Trial and error has been probably my main approach. Learning chords first. Then experimenting which sound good after the other…. Then find melodies. At the moment though the dark ambient cinematic that I’m doing, I jump in from different angles and approaches and it works and it feels free in that sense. I know what you mean with sounds in movies…. So many were synth based, but I didn’t know. Synthesis is a whole world in itself isn’t it. I’m genuinely really happy you like my work mate! And I’m happy you’re going to work through my videos day by day 🙏🏻💎💯 please let me know your thoughts on them 😋 I think my Hydra and 2600 have the edge on being my favourites… I’m lucky to have them… still paying off the Hydra 😬 It’s a truly awesome hobby and great for the mind. Please do keep going and let’s keep going together… it’s a great community on here…

@rickhopkinson I am sure you benefit from learning the electric organ a lot... and I would also think it's quite like playing the piano. Not the same keybeds of course but playing chords and melodies is probably quite comparable. And that's what I recognize when watching your videos. There are nice and well-played melodies embedded in atmospheric sounds. I like the combination although I also like the pure drone sound. To be honest, I made the beginner mistake buying a keyboard first rather than a synth. I thought about a MODX+ but it was also a decision of money. At this time I didn't know if I will become a longer hobby or frustrating. I thought synths are too hard to learn... but I was wrong. A friend had a DX around 1987 and I was fascinated what he did with it... but it was my wife who told me last year to give it a try, and I was impressed by the current Yamaha keyboards. Only two months later I bought a Modwave (that's why I don't buy the excellent Hydra) and then some Behringer's, a MicroFreak, Waldorf Streichfett... a Roland Sh-4d is on my wish list plus the forthcoming Stylophone drone synth. The journey continues and it's great to be not alone and see and learn what others are doing and talk about it. 😀

Thank you

I don't think that it is defective. The differences are easier to recognize now than on this phone recording. However, I will check if there is a new update.