VDW Eddy

The fourth contender ( instrument 😅) is the VDW Eddy in an Airscaler

Depends which research you read or which Laser you use😅

Please be so kind and elaborate your comment. Thanks!

I am not sure what you meant to say, could you please rewrite your comment in a more detailed manner? Thanks!

Endoactivator, Ultrasonic Handpiece, FOTONA LASER Pips and VDW Eddy (in any Sonicflex compatible air scaler )

David, look how old this video is- and it's still being clicked, even by you. Why is that? Lack of alternatives on KZbin I assume.KZbin deleted my first uploads which included more detailed explaining subtitles, and when reuploading, I simply did not wanted to put any more effort into it, people DID NOT READ THOSE SUBTITLES in the first place. Do you know why I did not put any more effort for clarification into those videos? Our partner in crime Oscar von Stetten used/uses this/my videos for a prime example of HOW IT SHOULD NOT BE DONE. Can you imagine the humiliation- for him - when I found out? Just kidding, Oscar has a special place in our heart, doesn't he? The best part is that I do not care, as this video was supposed to be the starting point of a series with changing conditions ( as explained in the subtitles), but since I was instantly bombarded with not practical criticism ( for example I was never shown a fitting bench test), I just let it roll. Before this setup I even asked Gentlewave for a way to test the system, but nobody even cared to answer my emails. Regarding PIPS: what is the roght way to hold and use it? Just trying to keep up with the constant changes leaves me clueless 😅...When I even remember correctly from one of the last endodontic Congresses, PIPS was claimed to be a " useless 60.000 bucks expensive toy". I like it and love to use it, and even though literature has or will find it of no use in the future, I prefer to have it at hand together with my Eddy, Gentlewave never made it to Germany for a reason I assume 😉

Anytime! Glad I could inspire your journey

One thumbs up?

@@gregors.5734 I don't know, I liked the first option better

@@RARlTET Only in big volume, the Eddy surpasses everything else for efficiency, at least also supported by studies

What about it?

@@gregors.5734 are the best

Please be so kind and answer in English the next time so everyone can understand what you are saying. Thanks!

Activate subtitles: first is the Endoactivator, the last should be Eddy.

@@gregors.5734 Does eddy available in India, because I am in India sir

@@AshokKumar-qu9dg No, Eddy is not available in India due to patent restrictions, but a colleague of yours sells his own version in India, the PATS tip😅 I believe.

Passive Ultrasonic Irrigation

@@gregors.5734 Thanks... I have another question.. Please answer 💐🙏 if you konw... If tip of Ultrasonic contact to k file or spreader which is in root canal, is effective for irrigation? Or we must use just endo ultrasonic tip?

@@nooranooma17 it does a little bit for fluid movement, but the cavitation effect is not as strong as with an dedicated Ultrasonic tip held in the root canal

@@gregors.5734 Thank you... Although its activation is low but is it significant and effective even we use it 2X time more?

@@nooranooma17 The clinical effect is questionable. If you really want a good effect, just use a fitted Guttapercha cone and apply manual apical agitation ( move the cone up and down in fresh solution).

Yes, the Eddy is great, so great that Dentsply Sirona will be launching the new Endoactivator, which basically is a cordless Eddy🤣. Funny that Ruddle always said the Endoactivator is better, but now on the release for the new version, he admitted that it was not good enough 😅

@@gregors.5734 Have you used PATS

@@Dentaldynamo VDW has developed the EDDY tip, but for some strange reasons did not file patent protection for India. Some clever businessmen copied the EDDY tip and named it PATS and selling them internationally, having had some legal confrontation by VDW lawyers for that. So YES and No: I have not actually used the PATS , but at the end, I basically have 😅 with the Eddy.

@@gregors.5734 Thank you for reply sir ..cn u please suggest me best irrigation activation device

@@Dentaldynamo Eddy and PATS are good, new Endoactivator also.

Why would you need this to be? The tips just transfer energy from the powering device. You can with some DIY skills attached the tips vice versa 😉, but there is no benefit for attaching EDDY tips to the Endoactivator. By the way: the new upcoming Dentsply Smartlite Endoactivator is much more powerful, on paper it looks kind of like a cordless Eddy.

I am a regular dentist, not a testing facility. There are studies indicating no improvement on PIPS with SWEEP, but also studies showing PIPS is of no use at all...

@@gregors.5734 I really hurt your feelings with that comment!? I apologize. I would love for you to share a link of a scientific study which indicates that LAI from Fotona is of no use at all. If not, I will settle with your distasteful sour reply. Have a great day!

@@prebb Not sure which part of my comment indicated hurt feelings or was distasteful, I just wanted to pointed out that I have no access to the SWEEPS unfortunately. (Maybe my answer was to short, but I am pretty exhausted after having had a 14h shift yesterday, 3h sleep and 9h work again, so please excuse if I am not able to elaborate as I used to do on a regular basis ). I would love to add SWEEP to the comparison, but all my attempts have been turned down by the companies. Regarding the " no use" of LAI in endodontics: that was meta analysis done by a colleague, he talked about the results on a big endodontic meeting with the kind words " anyone here owning a PIPS Laser, which costs 60.000€?". ( some colleagues raised there hands). " Unfortunately I give you 60.000 reasons in about 10 minutes to not like it anymore..." He showed no improvement in cleaning, healing, sealing , you name it. But let me tell you something: I feel much more confident in the cleaning using EDDY and PIPS in my daily cases, and I would not part with my PIPS! Cheers and stay healthy!

HI Dimitri! I have not seen the Chinese Clones of the Eddy, but as long as they are not to stiff nor to soft, they should work with any Air Scaler. Bye the way: Eddy was invented by Winfried Zeppenfeld, and he simply used what he had at hand, and that was a Sonicflex Air Scaler. He admitted that they had no idea if the 6000hz frequency of an Air scaler was/ is the best frequency for the Eddy, but they had no alternative too 🤣

​@@gregors.5734so if I have a scaler I can add eddy tips to it?

Hi there! You mean PATS, the Eddy clone sold in India, because the Patent for the Eddy was not protected here? Unfortunately I am located in Germany, the birthplace of the Eddy, and trying to import the PATS, would place me in harms way with customs / laws for patent rights violations.... 😞

@@gregors.5734 i see. Now PATS has been patented here, so probably the reason why EDDY is not on sale on India. I guess both will be having similar affect.

@@indraneeldutta They are pretty much the same, at least what I have seen so far.

English please, thanks!

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I used a Sonixflex 2003, but I have 3 different air scalers in office, W&H, NSK, Komet. They all work. Pressure: actually not sure, I believe 4 Bar.

Activate subtitles and everything is written there!

You welcome!

ismail It was mentioned in the describtion: It is a Maillefer Thermafil Training Bloc glued together. Cheers!

There is no best one in clinical aspect, it's just a lab test showing the difference in action. If you take the price into consideration, the Laser is the worst, but here it looks like it works the best. If you have access to Airscalers, get the VDW Eddy. If even that is a problem, just use manual agitation with a fitted guttapercha cone, that works really good. I use the Eddy for cleaning and follow up with PIPS to have lots if cleaning solution volume reach down to the apex. Take care!

sulfuric acid, there is a product called Hyben X used on perio for that purpose, in root canals, it has not yet been tested. Current data indicates quite good results for Biofilm removal in the main canal with the SAF file and PIPS/ Sweeps.

@@gregors.5734agreed - very interesting product - looking forward to further research

The second ,fourth and fiftth one

Please have a look at the timestamp and describtion: the video was first uploaded december 2016! This tips WERE the PIPS tips back then😄

Hi sir, Great video. Can u put more details on pips

Yeah, just like I did in the other Video! Thanks for the comment...

Yes, this setup was preliminary to the following „tests“, just like I wrote in the describtion . Nothing is a true test by the way, just a way to show some physics.

The first " Eddy" was not an Eddy, but the Endoactivator ( activate subtitles for details). Gentlewave is highly biased, and I have the gut feeling they are manipulating the result data ( they will not let any study be done OUTSIDE of there facility). Highly suspicious.

Ups, my mistake, the first is Endoactivator, second Peek Ultrasonic, third is PIPS LASER and the fourth is the real VDW Eddy. 😂

yes it is - like it is PASSIVE in 99% of the cases out there. Passive would mean no contact to the wall, which is practically almost impossible. So technically its not PUI, but for ease of communication, its called PUI nevertheless.

Correct, thats why I made all the other videos!

The first one

Marc, these „canals“ are prefabicated by Dentsply for Thermafil Obturation Training, you can get them directly from Dentsply!