i think it was pete krebs doing the more melodic picking, not elliott. i could be wrong but that picking style really doesn't sound like elliott to me.

@@dr_schneeplstein2637the rhythm guitar is using a pick though, not his usual right hand technique. He’s used picks in other songs like “abused” Edit: I just realized the the rhythm guitar is layered with him finger picking, so who knows

@@dr_schneeplstein2637 actually ur fucking stupid its elliott not pete. i was there when they cut this back in 1994

damn i thought they were a myth

Asshole

didn't need to mention it and you come off as a massive a hole for that

@@archiesimons-ns7gl ur gay

@@89. I think that’s fair.

What song was it if you don’t mind?

This is so real. To hell with death of the author. . . the artist's perspective is the heart of his sensibilities. . .

Naughty in what way?

something like washing your hair with mayo maybe idk@@christiangasior4244

@@jerevillarreal7290 i'm pretty sure by naughty, he was alluding to playing russian roulette solo queue with a fully loaded revolver

@@babelyubelbarever4591shut up drama queen

life

i love that pain tho

I don't get the point of narcan, some souls we should just be let go into the beyond like a balloon. . .

@@nicholash1278wtf are you talking about

@@hmoment661 some people just don't want to live. we shouldn't force them to.

@@nicholash1278 everyone wants to live. There is so much beauty in life, it's a testament to the hardships some one goes through that they want to die more than they want to live. It's sad really, we should have more empathy for people.

@@nicholash1278 you have no idea what you're talking about and you should sit down and be quiet honestly.

“You better wake up your friend before he won’t wake up anymore” Wow.. My heart

i never knew he said “hurt” quite enough the second time

strange beauty of number one

you might just be in the wrong circle. elliott's my favorite songwriter of all time. most musicians i've met hold him in pretty high regard.

@@rockpantson Yh most musicians hold him in high regard, you just explained it. Elliott should be regarded by everyone as one of the best musical minds ever.

Well nobody knows who elliott was. Who said he didnt want fame. Bah. Internet comments are just like people words. All over the place, assuming and full of shit.

Yeah it’s almost like internet comments are identical to what people would say in real life with their people mouths. They’re just typed instead of spoken.

@@christiangasior4244 Oh well. I sense your somewhat somekind of sarcasm here. U get what i mean anyway

It isn't AI generated. I was there. I held up the microphones while Post Malone played guitar and Danny sang.

That must be nice. :)

I thought Portland was a warzone? Aren't there bums in the street taking shts on themselves?

@@LtGregoryStevens @LtGregStevens In the last few years there has been a rise in crime, that stuff on the news 3 years ago was a rare thing, doesn't happen often, and when it does it usually isn't through a far right extreme "news" filter. I have been here for 20 years, and when I first moved here it was amazing, everyone was friendly, great music, awesome food, and good opprotunities for musicians. In 2017 shit started getting messed up, redneck fascists came out of the woodwork and started changing the social landscape, they had a voice in the whitehouse. Portland has been known since the late 80s to have a very progressive inclusive feel to it, Every city or town has some version of "bums" and I'm sorry to tell you, but "bums" as you say, have no place to shit, so there is that. Some of the most disgusting and dangerous places in America to live are Republican ran cities, despite what flat earther election deniers believe. Portland geographically is all I care about, I could give a shit about the social landscape of cities, or the world in general. Portland treats Proud Boys and Antifa as domestic terrorists as they should. Hundreds of people were sentenced during riots, on both sides. Don't know where you get news, but OAN, Newsmax, Fox, these aren't news outlets, they are propaganda machines, which is why in court the "news anchors" will say they are not telling the truth and that it is just entertaimment, so the lies they spread are covered legally, still the viewers don't care if shit is true or not, only what supports their claims, facts don't matter to these people. I don't leave my house regardless, fuck everyone.

@@vindsvalrpdx I get my news from "Maoist Rebel News", thr most trusted name in news

@@LtGregoryStevens Although from what I can read he is anti-capitalist, punker, and I like that, it is a guy in a room, influencer, fine, but isn't news. I hate news anyway for many reasons, but there has to be a legal team that researches facts and makes sure they get the facts straight, I mean yes news is in his channel name, but he also describes himself as a commentator, it's very enigmatic. Speculative commentating cannot be misconstrued or confused with verifiable news. Some of the left gets it wrong, most of the right deliberately gets it wrong, they have to think backwards to appeal to Q'ed out Maga far right christian nationalist conservative republicans. I never heard of that guy before, I will check it out.

@@vindsvalrpdx OK thank you Mr fred

THATS WHAT I THINK OF TOO

it’ll come back <3

beautifully said, and I'm in a similar boat right now. it's hard

Would it be completely lame if i said something encouraging, like, umm... open, open, quietly slip thru, and maybe don't worry so much about what others might think of you. Which is probably really dumb. I just ... hope things get better.

I love you too ❤️

Friends overdosing nearly every night because they're so far gone. Don't do drugs, kids. Except pot, mushrooms, mdma etc. But anything that kills the amount of innocents and sprays the blood of children that fentanyl, carfentanil, every evil fentanyl analogue, methamphetamine, cocaine, crack, do.. Will invite the devil into your home. No lie. I always wrestled with my faith until 4 nights ago when I fled my house that had possessed my husband and threw every last container and pipe and straw into a bag and walked to the very very edge of my swamp so deep I was putting myself up by the cattails with that drug bag in hand and after nearly 20 years this July of doing hard drugs (since age 14; 34 soon) I threw that motherfucker into the swamp and I heard hissing as the contents sunk to the bottom. Then the sound of something inhuman screaming, as well as what sounded like a hunted jumping fish in a swamp that has none. I turned back and walked into my house soaking wet from the swamp water but empowered by the light and love of Jesus Christ. And I went back into my bedroom to look at my husband, and he was gone. No reason for it, as he'd been officially off everything for about 30 hours by this point. But suddenly his eyes snapped open, and the pupils were so large that the blue of his eyes disappeared at the corners, and I said Babe, do you remember a few hours earlier, when I told you I felt like this time our withdrawal was spiritual? Because all of the other times I'd been sick in the past, I could muster NO ENERGY to do SHIT. And this Jesus energy had me on point. I shook my husband and asked him who was in the room with me, because his face was blank and empty, devoid of any emotion but the sparking, sinister reflection of myself in his iris-less eyes... And he said, "The devil." I looked down at the bedsheet, and towards the bottom about 3 feet away from his feet, a hand - or *something* - round seemed to undulate beneath the blanket, and I said that's not your... Foot, is it? As I saw his foot was 3 feet away. And he turned to me and said, "They're here. I'm going to let them take me." And he passed out again. That night I had to force him to drink water as he was only getting up to urinate in his semi-coma like state, and he was refusing water. I whispered Bible verses in his head all night as I turned to my hallway in front of the stairs and there was our dog, hissing and barking at the fucking thing. And it was laughing at us, mocking us. You see, it works through shame, deceit and confusion. We've been at a hotel since the morning following and I had those Bible versus on for 6 hours straight as he slept and I kept watch like those who watch over Israel. I'm convinced he'd be dead - hell, maybe we'd BOTH be dead if I hadn't have called on the power of Jesus Christ. 5 days no opiates for the first time in nearly 20 years. Thanks be to God!!! 🙏🏼

@@bh29 you stopped taking drugs 4 nights ago?? Also this story seems like a hallucination... What was the thing under the bed?? Were you yourself on drugs that night?

@@rodolf5941 both of us were clean for between 50 hours for me and 30 hours for him, from everything except pot when the thing came in and it gradually got stronger around hour 35... I had told him because he was dealing with this shit that killed 9 people in a week that it was straight demonic. And it wasn't just hands/fists whatever the fuck crawling under the sheets but something at the apex of the house we've lived in for 10 years where I ALWAYS feel spiritual energy because it's right in the middle of the home between the bedroom and basement and it was fucking with us bad. My husband would just literally stop breathing responding etc for minutes at a time and he's still been in bed since while I've made it 5 days now and haven't really suffered much at all thanks be to God!!! 🙏🏼

If someone overdoses they might stop breathing and thus not wake up anymore? Not sure if that's what he was getting at.

@@kevinklassen4328 but if u wake this person they will live?

Copium

Everyone always wonders why I love "music of extreme despair" as my girl would say. This is it

Not all of us.

@@babelyubelbarever4591 You're here too, whatever you want to call it, it draws us all for a reason.

I’ve found listening to dark music doesn’t exorcise or cleanse me of my pain in some cathartic way. I find it makes me stew in negativity . Everything he sings about is negative. Even in the happier songs, he slips in utter despair. I felt just like him minus the cool rock star stuff for all of my twenties. Wanted to self delete and was depressed all the time. I also listened to him the entire time. In my 30’s I stopped wanting to end it until last year those thoughts came back. I’m not gonna act on them because I can’t hurt the few people who love me aka Mom XO. I think Elliott is the greatest genius in modern music since The Beatles, and those were four people. But listening to him is both addictive and awe inspiring, but damn. It’s dangerous to my mental health lol. Sparklehorse too. So amazing and maybe not as dark but you have people who struggled with and made music about their battles with depression and in the end they lost and deleted themselves. It’s all really dark.

dude are you okay?

I hope with every fibre of my being that you have reconsidered. I pray that things improve for you, Erica. Broken people are far and away the most interesting - don't cost the world the joy of knowing you.

And if you ever need anyone to talk to hit me up and I'll listen and try to help as best I can

Can confirm, 34 is a hard age. I’m seriously thinking to ending all soon.

@@musiccollector87 i wasn't expecting such a recent comment. i'm going on an elliott spree , crying over his passing again , the usual. we don't know eachother, im more than half your age but that's not the point. i hope so much you don't do anything, yes, it's hypocritical considering i was debating the same tonight. but i want to be here for every elliott fan because every single one of you deserve it. including you.

I see it another way. I think Charlie is a metaphor of a destructive feeling a person gets that persuades them with a brief moment of contentedness but ultimately it's an empty promise.

he ssomewhat made peace with that past in flowers for charlie

@@mavidateeta Yeah.

​@@mavidateetaEmphasis on."somewhat." He allegedly was struggling mightily with thoughts about Charlie in his final days...

I don’t think Charlie molested Elliott, but I think he was a dick and hit him and such. Shot his cat. So just a bad stepdad Texas style which often meant getting hit sometimes, especially back then. But in his last days Elliott was also paranoid that his record company was following him everywhere, so Elliott would take weird long ways to the studio through woods and stuff. Then he threatened to self delete if they didn’t release him from his contract. He said he saw a white van following him around. This would be around the time he would using lots of heroin and crack, but even without that he had adderall to make him paranoid when he abused it. Elliott liked the idea of things. I feel like maybe he felt if he was sexually abused, that would be a reason why he is always so unhappy. It would make him feel validated. He obsessed over heroin addiction for like a decade or more before diving into it. One girlfriend left him because he would obsessively talk about what it would be like to be a heroin addict. Then you see that it in his music all over the self titled album especially… And of course he threw references to suicide everywhere from the beginning. “Good to Go” means “ready to die”, he explained. So even “Amity” is really about this super cool girl that he would like to be with but he is just so so so…depressed and good to go. So yeah Elliott Smith is a genius, but I don’t think his step-dad diddled him and we certainly shouldn’t perpetuate that claim without any evidence, coming from an unreliable narrator.

i fuckin miss him so much and i never met the guy

@@Dbzmad34222 I feel u dude, I feel u

what do u mean about bob marley

Who killed Elliott in front of our eyes? also Bob Marley died of untreated cancer that he let get fatal because his religion didn’t believe in modern medicine.

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He truly was our "Torment Saint" and as sad and tragic as his passing was (but it really is sad and tragic indeed), I think that we should all be counting ourselves lucky that there was an Elliott Smith at all. If you start reading through comments in Elliott's videos, it's common to find at least one statement from a person attesting that Elliott's music had literally saved their lives. Something that I am able to honestly attest to. Anyhow, I can't think a single other musician to which I could say the same about. It's not even close. My only regret I have towards Elliott Smith comes from the fact that he didn't have his own Elliott Smith. Sorry for the rantin and'a raving. Sorry friends

@@Dionysoshaman I love reading the comments on Elliott videos. Makes me feel less alone in a way. I'm assuming "torment saint" is referring to the book I just wanted to point out I believe that it was a misinterpretation of Elliotts lyrics which is actually "torn mainsail" from his song "go by". I'm not trying to be one of "those" people, I do find it funny though whenever someone talks about that book.

@@iridescentowl6150 If only Elliott had his own Elliott. By z way I have a deep Im quite a fan of your name, as. Owls!!?? Lightning!!?? What's not to love? It's really a good'n for sure

“Torment Saint” is wildly inaccurate in many ways. There are falsehoods about his life all over in there.

But yeah, I listen to Elliott because I’m super depressed, but I would argue more people have probably killed themselves to his music and even been pushed to it by the music. References of wanting to self delete all over the place, and then he did it. You know people who are super depressed and love Elliott are gonna say “well if Elliott couldn’t make it, I certainly can’t. If it was good enough for him…” I love Elliott and I listen to him because he feels like me and there’s a comfort there, but it’s actually wallowing in depression. For a few years I stopped being depressed and I had to avoid Elliott’s music because it took me back to those days and mainly because the songs are just dark and you’re listening to someone who didn’t beat his depression, he succumbed in a horrible manner. It’s all very morbid. But I love him.

I’m so confused as to why they didn’t put it on the heaven adores you soundtrack.

There’s a live edition on the 25th anniversary reissue of his self titled album at the Umbra Penumbra, but nothing close to this version.

Hm? The Roman candle? Or dead air (prolly not)

@Andreas Lindqvist Wow! Can’t imagine hearing of much less getting into Elliott at such a young age. His work can leave quite a deep lasting, unique impression, that’s for sure.

where did you get that from?

i dont get that at all, i get it being about a girl (the same girl a good portion of his songs are centered around) who is a liar and a junkie, she tells him she loves him, but is fucking other guys for dope. and he cant find the confidence to stand up for himself or break up with her

@@pukeyloww5279 ye

​@@pukeyloww5279 dawg?

@@generalmalaise2930 yes?

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