I thought my earphones were broken 😂

"Safety Overrides" : You dare to challenge me !!!!

My fleet in every playthrough: monitor frigate (tanker shield and two DP less than Tempest), either Eradicator or Eagle cruiser, but I always pilot Retribution battlecruiser. If you want defeat me, go wolf pack tactic with a bunch of scarab.

I play without S mods, and without piloting. Also I play with large battles. Sunder would melt when the 3rd Legion flanks it.

I tried HSA variant with tachion and 2 phase lances. It's funny to overload ships in 1 shot, but it's really frustrating against ordos, as you can't outrun brilliant( also probably the only ship that curse salamander, as one hit in engines and you're gone.

My Ziggy build was 6 antimatter blasters for the small slots, 4 sabots for the medium slots, and 2 autopulse lasers in the large slots, max out your capacitors over vents, and grab expanded mags (and maybe missile racks, it's been a while since I've played so I don't remember the full build). Game plan was simple, phase over to the biggest enemy ship, unphase at close to point blank range with autopulse laesrs on auto-fire, launch a full volley of sabots to instantly overload their shields, then a full volley of antimatter blasters to instantly kill them. If they still have a sliver of HP you can stay unphased for a bit longer to finish them with autopulse. Then phase out and get to somewhere safe to recharge your flux and repeat. This all takes place over the course of 1 second or so, so weapons like the tachyon lance aren't viable because they take too long to finish firing.

the music ruins everything - make sure that ur sounds besides ur voice audio is 60% less loud and let the remaining 40% ur voice - beta

my biggest criticism of the Sunder is that it's very much a glass cannon.

the ziggurat is fine, it's the end reward of a difficult quest and it makes sense that it's powerful, it earns the low DP by being hard to get

My piggy!

I still love the dominion missing mid line supers with 8 large slots, slap on anything that improves ballistics's range, damage, flux reduction and rof and slap on some Mjolnir Cannons and watch the ship clap things fro 4k away

The only reason I don't mind this ship so much is that it's not supposed to be balanced. It's clearly designed to be broken and something you only get a single copy of to play with at the end of the questline, that's all. If it was something you or AI could mass produce then it would be a massive problem for both the balance of the game and the fun aspect of it. Imagine playing against multiple of these... ugh.

Key word: duel. I don't think any ship should be judged based on how it performs in an isolated fight against enemies from the simulator. Not only is that not representative of the actual battle condition, those ships have no pilots and behave way worse, plus they have worse stats due to not having pilot skills. So yeah sure, if you put a sunder full of built in hull mods, with a skilled captain to boost it further, against a ship with no captain at all in a 1v1, sure it will win spectacularly. Also the player can control a single ship in an engagement, the majority of the fleet is AI piloted. So it is weird to me to even put a significant factor on how it controls in player hands. Give me a medusa with SO and I will do things even more impressive than what you've shown in this video. Or a harbinger, that ship can kill literally any other ship in the game, and consistently net me multiple times it's DP cost in kills every single fight. A sunder can't hope to put out this kind of performance in a fleet fight without endangering itself heavily. So I don't think you want to talk the whole player controled angle. And lastly: conquest duels aren't very impressive. Conquest has garbage shield efficiency which makes it very squishy if you can close on it. That sunder with the captain and all the mods will literally have similar effective flux as that conquest when we're talking cqc. Conquest loses all it's advantages the moment it loses it's range advantage, and in a duel a range advantage never lasts more than couple of seconds if you know what you're doing. I'm pretty sure I could kill a conquest with most destroyers (the decent ones at least) given enough hullmods and good captain skills.

1.Agree. Tempest is the Tembest 2. Again, agree 3. That's where the problems start. Eradicator requires a lot of micromanagement and proper cover from other ships. I prefer more protected and tankier hulls. So my choice is Apogee 4. Not even gonna argue (but you are wrong lol). Capitals are so different you HAVE to try all of them yourself

Totally agree, it's my favorite

Alpha core worshiper spotted

Yeah but my onslaught can kill 20 AI Eradicators

i think its a cool build, ill give it a run. thanks for making the video! Lots of salt in the comments section from people lol. Keep doing what youre doing mr. cheese

In my eyes, the Ziggurat is just a symptom of the larger issue of player strength vs Ai strength in Starsector. Sure, you could make the dp 120, heck you could make the dp 150, but that doesn’t change the fact that the ziggy in the hands of the player outclasses 150 dp of any ai controlled vanilla ships. Additionally, battle size is a variable that can easily be increased, which only serves to exacerbate how much stronger ziggy is in the hands of the player. That to me is the core issue, in the hands of the ai even the stronger version of the ziggy is no where near worth the cost of 120 dp. Heck, you can beat it with just about any fleet comp with the right setup. But when you place it in the hands of the player, it’s competitive with many of the strongest modded ships and fleets. I think you’re correct in saying that the ship is incredibly strong(even by modded ship standards it holds up well). But I disagree with the notion that doubling its dp cost would do anything to solve the issue.

>"One does not simply secede from the Hege" >Kazeron oligarchs: "hold my midline"

It's like Hyperion and Scarab consumed lots of steroids and made a baby.

If I think about what I actually use in my fleets in games then: Frigate: Tempest (runner up Omen) Destroyer: Hammerhead (Sunders are decent too) Cruisers: Champion Capital: no strong preferences (I enjoy piloting Odessey)

If ships had deployment costs based on what they can do with good to perfect builds then the game would be extremely unbalanced (even more so if you tried to balance their deployment cost based on the players control). The only reason that the Ziggurat is 75 instead of 60 or less is because of its unique ability. If you truly think it should be 120 then you truly do not understand the game from start to finish.

Just invite some bugs ;)

i know starsector since i was teen which was 16 year ago and its still in beta.

The background music is super loud mate. Otherwise nice video.

nah, i dont agree, because this is simulated battle 1v1 and in real combat the sunder will be facing multiple foes and the enemy just needs to fart once to blow the sunder away

radiant next pls. ur videos are super useful

Where did you get this officer? My sunders always just die, even when given a less risky long range build.

Hey. Hundreds of hours in Starsector, and I'll finally test out a second ship to fly with. I basically never moved on from the Hammerhead. Honestly always found The Sunder underwhelming. Clearly I did it wrong. Now ofc, I play with a mod that introduced an extremely overpowered Hammerhead, but it did also provide a more powerful version of the sunder. Ship/Weapon Pack by Dark.Revenant. Gotta test out both versions now. Edit; The volume of your voice vs the music is just fine.

My man dont reply on critism jesus, must be a very bad guide

very nice!

Why such a loud useless music? Remove it and you get a very well done video.

I don't think it's his voice, it sounds like AI (no judgement though, it's pretty useful) and because it's so level, it may sound quieter than it really is

As someone who loves Starsector but is really bad at the combat, I really appreciate content like this that breaks it down very simply.

use your real voice, coward

me with 70 mods loaded looking at this....

Now remake the video but this time make the music NOT be louder than your voice

huh, I always thought of him as an escort support ship instead (tachyon lance and ion laser) and nothing more

Light Needler, Ion Pulser, Autopulse Laser

But it's not a lot of people out there that play star sector

Rarr needs this then

L E A K NAME TIME: the ship you saw of launching purple balls c: is da ziggurat

The odyssey ignorance is insane. May not have the best firepower. But, here comes a big but. Its the fastest capital, beating even some cruisers in mobility, it has pretty low fuel consumption so you can fly it basically everywhere for marginal fuel costs. It has the biggest sensor range of any ship thanks to the built in advanced sensors, it has very high flux capacity, very good shielding, a large missile slot, and even 2 fighter hangars. Its literally a fleet in itself. While a paragon/onslaught might beat it in a slugfest. But they will never catch up with an odyssey. Its the quintessential battlecruiser design. Outguns what it cant outrun, outrun what it cant outgun. Give it 2 plasma a mirv, 2 xyphos and rest doesnt matter. You can quite literally solo entire fleets. Many ppl think the conquest is better but it really isnt. Ody is faster, tankier, have basically 90% of the conquests usable firepower and it has great utility outside combat. Not many capitals can stand up to a radiant in 1v1 but the odyssey is one of those

brother what you doing? Re-do this challenge with Nexrelin, play as the Luddic Path, and use the LP Gremlins with Hardened Subsystems, Unstable Injector and your Reapers. This does work

me left ear really enjoyed this short

idk man ai make use of omni shield better for my flag ship sure but not ai

ever heard of the stereo-hull-mod?

All fun and games until you get flanked, i usualy use very few but powerful ships since its less lag and easier to manage all my stuf, so im very often flanked over even compleatly surrounded so frontal shields are very bad for my play style.

In reality i agree tempest is the best and i will always have way more then i should in my foeet un the late game However for firepower, stats, and preformance the afflictor and its ability to add a debuff against enemy ships just smashes Also sunder destroyers die in droves, even with the best weapons. Cant keep those ships alive. Best to have some solid enforcers instead.