The factory ignition timing setting for my application is 6 degrees initial. 15-20 degrees of initial timing isn't necessarily unreasonable. What the optimal initial timing and total timing figures are for a motor depend on a lot of variables(camshaft specs, dynamic compression ratio, etc.). I don't know if connecting the vacuum advance to full manifold vacuum would produce higher fuel econ than using ported vacuum. It's possible and would make for an interesting experiment, huh?

We agree!

You'd have to really love the 5.0 or the 2.7 to want to do that. Swapping either into a torino would be a huge undertaking. Not for me man.....Would rather keep the Cleveland Big-port

@mattsboatyard6891 he'll yeah bro u need a holley sniper or fitech n you will be golden. 🍺

And when a part on those fail you are stuck unlike the carb cheater will never leave you stuck

Nothing wrong with a Cleveland big port especially when that car is sporting a gear vendor overdrive too! The car has more value and credibility with the original motor anyway.

@thejandolife Thats my opinion of it

Absolutely!!

Yes, a slight increase! This set-up runs nicely, but there is still room for improvement with the tune in my opinion. Going to be doing some data log trials and try to hone the carb in more.

It's a cool and useful device to have on an old car!

That's about what I aim for too. How do you like the progression ignition? does it clash at all with the carb cheater?

No, even in manual mode the gear vendors will disengage the overdrive gearset when you drop below 20 mph.

Yeah, I can imagine! Probably geared up a bit being a wagon

The edelbrock design does have some advantages in longevity- that is for sure. the Holley has a little more tuneability but the edelbrock still has plenty and the ease at which it can be accomplished is unmatched. Either carb is a good option!

Absolutely, I’m glad you enjoyed it! The gear splitting really is what drew me to the Gear Vendors over other overdrive solutions. Even with the 3.5 gears that the Torino has, 55-60 mph is just above 2000 rpm’s where as with no overdrive, it was turning more like 2700-2900 rpm’s for the same speed.

Glad you enjoyed it!! I believe that I had put the Amazon links into the description of the installation part two video

Yeah, def not any sort of a cold air intake like a ram air gives you but still a nice on demand increase in air flow

Doesn’t it?!? 😎

The gear vendors kit includes a speedometer cable adaptor that allows the cars OEM cable to run into the gear vendors unit. When you order the kit from them, just let them know what your gear ratio and tire height are so they include the proper speedo gear in the G.V. unit so that your car's speedometer is accurate!

One of the best!

Thank you 🤠

It should. The mirrocraft is a heavy tub(rated for 20 hp max). Might want to check how much power the lone star is rated for!

Completely agree, one of my favorites to run

71 crew cab? Rare bird, very cool

Growing up, my dad had quite a few torinos/fairlanes which is how I got into those cars in the first place. One of em was a 70 fastback w/429 TJ that he had done a mild build up on. The car really flew and with highway gears wasn’t too bad on fuel if you stayed out of the accelerator pedal ;).

interesting, does your mav have a 302 in it? When i was testing the holley out on this F250, at certain speeds the holley was a little more responsive- punchier.

@@mattsboatyard6891 I haven't had the car in years, but it was a 302. An out of the box universal carb (Holley #1850) is a cheap carb. I'm not condemning the Holley. I just say that if you don't really know how to tear one down and tune it, it doesn't slap on and work as well as the Edelbrock. I think part of the problem was the throttle cable to pedal was made for a 2V carb. The 2V cable might not have been long enough to open the secondaries. I think the geometry of the Edelbrock was more forgiving. The secondaries always opened on the Edelbrock

I'm not sure if there are any differences between throttle cable lengths on 2v vs 4v cars- not an issue i have encountered to this point. On your experience with the holley- thats similar to what i experienced with the 390 on the F250. out of the box, the eddy worked just a bit better. All that said, my other old cars have holleys on em and run well. Both designs have their pros and cons

Thank you! It’s come along way ha! I am a big fan of the 352 FE w/cruise-o transmission combo. Real nice set up for this truck. I’m sure it works great in the Galaxie too

It’s not too bad for an old muscle car and it picked up some MPG’s with the gear vendors