Great video, thanks ! It's a shame that you didn't go to Van Laar to compare an oiram to an A4, i would have loved to see how they compare
@jacqueschamma30453 ай бұрын
Woupsy, my bad, just watched part 2. Oiram sounds better imho
@JoeBabiak3 ай бұрын
@@jacqueschamma3045 - The Van Laars were very nice horns; I especially liked the brushed gold B5. However, none of them (or the others) come close to the Martin Böhme "Tumultus" I now have. Cheers!
@jacqueschamma30453 ай бұрын
@@JoeBabiak since then I tried the oiram 1, 3 and 4 and didn't like the way they played (I play jazz) even if they're beauties. I liked the B7 best
@BananaZen73 ай бұрын
Sounds super smooth...a sunshine singing trumpet 🌞
@JoeBabiak3 ай бұрын
100% !
@quantica8124 ай бұрын
Hey. Joe thank you for your informative videos. Please share your experience with other Martin trumpet models. I'm interested in the Clarus model, how did it feel, how easy is it to play and what is its sound like ?
@JoeBabiak3 ай бұрын
You're welcome! I don't know if I played is Clarus model...but I can guarantee you the Clarus plays with ease, smoothly, and with beautiful tone...as with all of Martin's instruments! I hope you can try one for yourself...cheers!
@yougianfir4 ай бұрын
Thank you for share this test with us but.....poor your wife! Cheers!
@JoeBabiak3 ай бұрын
You're very welcome.
@BananaZen74 ай бұрын
All good trumpets but i like the sound of the K&H best...do you remember what model it was...?
@JoeBabiak3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I don't. It's the only one that I don't remember the model. But I remember it played well and had a nice dark sound.
@BananaZen73 ай бұрын
@@JoeBabiak Thankyou for your response...in the meantime i think i found out what model it was: K%H Topline...but indeed, Adams trumpets have better ratings...only i don't have the money for such an expensive trumpet...So i'm planning on buying the Schagerl Mnozil...which also has good reviews...At this moment i have a Roy Benson TR-202 which is adequate for the time being...it has a really nice design...but is made in China...
@JoeBabiak3 ай бұрын
@@BananaZen7 - Cool. I would also HIGHLY recommend checking out Martin Böhme and his trumpets! Best horns I've ever played! In my opinion, better than Monette, Lotus, etc. Here's the video from when I got my Tumultus trumpet by Martin Böhme: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHiXiaWDbbWkhcksi=BzOoykAcAPyDkSil
@revivalofdarkness88654 ай бұрын
Title song?
@JoeBabiak3 ай бұрын
It's a previous version of MAB's "Double Guitar Solo."
@thomasheberer30346 ай бұрын
Dear Joe, thank you so much to you and your wife for your 2 trumpet testing videos, very insightful and enjoyable. I have been playing the Adams A4 with the shepherd's crook for years and also love my Lotus Classic, going back and forth between the two, depending on the musical situation. I've been looking for the best compromise between a dark sound and good slotting & responsiveness for decades, I guess that'll sound familiar to you.......Thanks for inspiring me to investigate the Martin Böhme horns, all best, your friend Thomas
@JoeBabiak6 ай бұрын
Greetings Thomas, thanks for your warm message! Based on what you’re looking for, I would absolutely 100% recommend Martin’s horns. I searched far & wide for such a combination & his horns hit the bullseye!🎯 Do keep me posted! - JB
@hulkhogan5036 ай бұрын
What was the difference between the lotus and Martin horns??
@JoeBabiak6 ай бұрын
Hi & thanks for writing. The main difference was playability. With Martin’s horns I could get immediate responsiveness. His horns feel like they support me as I play & allow me to be very agile. On the Lotus horns, the exact opposite; I felt them fighting me & greater resistance. The Lotus horns also didn’t feel as open, especially in the low register. Tone-wise, my Tumultus by Martin Böhme was precisely what I was looking for; a warm, buttery, dark sound, without sacrificing responsiveness. The Lotus horns have a smooth tone, but thinner sounding to my ear & not quite as dark as I wanted, & again, more difficult for me to play. *That all being said, this was my personal experience. Yours could totally be different.
@sabin27037 ай бұрын
Hi Joe, this is Amazing. Can you tell me why you chose the Martin Boehme over the Lotus Max? It sounds to me like both of those horns are what you were looking for. What made you not pick the Lotus?
@JoeBabiak6 ай бұрын
Greetings! I chose my Martin Böhme horn because it played like a dream. Effortless & very responsive. It feels like the horn actually supports me as I play. Whereas in my personal experience, the Lotus horns actually fight me as I play & don’t feel as open. The Lotus horns have a smooth tone, but the sound & playability of my Tumultus was precisely what I was looking for; warm, dark, & super responsive.
@derrinkerr73357 ай бұрын
Hey Joe. Great video (and the second one too)…thanks. Can you recall your thoughts on the Kuhnl & Hoyer? Your demo sounded very centred and even across the range.
@JoeBabiak6 ай бұрын
Greetings & thanks for writing. If I remember correctly (it’s been a while) the K&H horn played well & had a bit of a darker sound, which I like. However, I didn’t play that model for long nor did I try other from the company…so something must not have grabbed me. That being said, I don’t recall anything negative about it either.
@udesimone37 ай бұрын
HI Joe! what's the price for one TUMULTUS (aprox)?
@JoeBabiak7 ай бұрын
Hi. The price list can be found on Martin’s website here: martinboehme.com/en/pricelist.
@user-ht9lr5ss9e7 ай бұрын
hello. I'm plan to order martin Bohme trumpet after watching your video. Can you give me advice between xl red bell , L red bell and L yello bell
@JoeBabiak7 ай бұрын
Greetings. I tried both the red XL & red L bell; if I remember correctly, not a huge difference between the two. They’re perhaps a tad darker & smokier sounding than the L yellow brass bell. I was definitely going for something warm & dark sounding, but after testing the yellow brass, it was obvious that that was the right choice; more responsive without sacrificing the dark sound I wanted.
@JMLRecording8 ай бұрын
Just watched this one again man. FANTASTIC video. This is a great resource for anyone looking at a new trumpet! Both a testament to you, the manufacturers.... and Apple iPhones!
@carlyncarolissen7638 ай бұрын
Amazing Joe! We loved having you look after our cats and apartment!
@JMLRecording8 ай бұрын
Awesome dude! I came to see what you’re up to and stayed to genuinely learn how I can do this too! Great info here my friend thank you!!
@SMELLSLIKENIRVANATRIBUTE8 ай бұрын
Noice!
@androsonofagun9 ай бұрын
One of my drumset dream of all time 🤟🏼
@duwir595910 ай бұрын
The Van Laar B5 Sounds so good.
@JoeBabiak10 ай бұрын
I really liked the B5. Probably would have gone with it had I not discovered my Tumultus by Martin Böhme.
@MagnusMedina10 ай бұрын
I had an A4 and experienced the same issue. I could not get it to slot a high D consistently. I could play the high E above it just fine. Such a shame because I really loved that dark sound as my playing tends to be too bright.
@ISuperTed10 ай бұрын
Hi Joe, hope you don’t mind me contacting you on here! I know this video is quite old now but was wondering how you’re getting on with the Tumultus? I’ve been on a bit of a Safari with horns (currently have an Adams A4) and have had similar thoughts to you in that the A4 has a good core but I’m finding it difficult to slot up high and something about the intonation isn’t quite right. I came from a lovely Eclipse Enigma ML bore which didn’t have quite the same deep core as the A4 but was more free blowing. I do a lot of big band/commercial work so need something with a bit of punch. Thinking seriously about trying a Tumultus but based in the UK so it will be quite a trip to Martin Bohme’s!
@JoeBabiak10 ай бұрын
Greetings Ian & thanks for your message! I was just playing my Tumultus earlier tonight and thought to myself “damn I love this horn!” Even just holding it feels good. So I can say with all certainty, it remains the best & most inspiring trumpet I’ve ever played/owned. No doubt. Honestly, I don’t even think about my old A4 since getting the Tumultus. And considering your application, I would suggest checking out Martin’s “Tumultus LL” model. That could fit you nicely. At any rate, I hope you can make it down to his shop. Keep me posted!
@ISuperTed10 ай бұрын
@@JoeBabiak Thanks Joe, I was having the same thoughts about the LL model. My wife likes the sound of a trip to Basel so hope to make it there soon.
@JoeBabiak10 ай бұрын
Yes, a trip to Basel would out you about an hour from Martin’s shop! Great idea!
@fleurafricaine574011 ай бұрын
Hi Joe, I listened only to 5-minutes. I’m sensing you really wanted one of the Schilke’s to work for you. It sounded like the sound & resonance of the Schilke’s you played was trapped inside the instrument. The most open, warm and projected sound I heard you produce was from the Kühnl & Hoyer (which you only played for 3-seconds at 2:55!)
@JoeBabiak10 ай бұрын
Greetings! Initially, I liked the Schilke’s; they seemed to be very responsive horns and very even sounding from low to high. But the more horns I tested, the more the Schilkes fell into the background. I released a second comparison video in which I found my current horn (which blows all the others out of the water!). Check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHiXiaWDbbWkhck
@Kontrabass6611 ай бұрын
What do you think about the gold brass or red brass bells? Or the XL bells? Did you hear or feel a big difference? And what did you play befor e the Adams A4? Nice video!
@JoeBabiak11 ай бұрын
Hello again…between gold-brass & red-brass, I would choose gold-brass. It’s a nice inbetwen to yellow & red. My old A4 was a gold-brass bell; no complaints. But my Tumultus is yellow-brass and WAY more responsive, which I attribute partly to the material. Before the A4 I had a Bach 43 with a 43 lead pipe. That horn felt/played like shit compared to the A4 & Tumultus!
@blainekelley81611 ай бұрын
Hi Joe, I thought I'd replied to this long ago ... but didn't find it below. Anyway, I just revisited and enjoyed your playing and the experience of hearing this mix of great axes. The VL Aquino had a really nice sound. I also liked the Lotus with the Phoz Brass tuning slide. But the Tumultus was fabulous and clearly it 'fit' you. I really liked the XL red brass bell ... but then heard the XL yellow brass, which was smokey and smooth ... it would be a tough choice. Perhaps one of each?!!!! ;-D
@JoeBabiak11 ай бұрын
Hey Blaine, hope all is well brother! Yes, the Aquino is a very nice horn. Aside from the B5, the Aquino was my other favorite Van Laar horn; nice & dark. Yes, Martin’s XL red brass bell was actually the very first of his horns I played. I liked the 5.5” bell too, but, the L yellow-brass bell really seemed to help with the responsiveness I was going for. 100% made the right choice!
@eugenecataquiz332211 ай бұрын
Sounds so good. Any more songs posted? Love the sound of that horn. Her vocals are stellar too.
@JoeBabiak11 ай бұрын
Much thanks! That’s the only full trumpet song at this point, but I plan to do more. 😊
@Kontrabass6611 ай бұрын
I don´t like the A4, it is a design that does not work for a trumpet, played two of them for a month...more of a show stopper. But the A7 from Adams sounded beautiful.
@JoeBabiak11 ай бұрын
I actually liked the sound of the A4…but over time, it began to annoy me (slotting was an issue due to its large bore size). But my new horn beats the A4 in every way! Check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHiXiaWDbbWkhcksi=FvoVgulX5_tR-gZS
@jasonsimpson4805 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing this. Keep up the great work!
@agwood123 Жыл бұрын
Do you sell the arrangement you guys made of this song for trumpet, voice and piano?
@JoeBabiak Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not :(
@robertstacey6862 Жыл бұрын
Did the strap loosen up any over time? Seems a little harder than expected to push cards out for me. I only carry 5 cards.
@brandonpolk2628 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, You seemed most comfortable on bohme sturm and drang, and jp by Taylor
@JoeBabiak Жыл бұрын
Interesting observation...though I can assure you the Tumultus for me, was the most impressive & comfortable playing experience out of all the horns I tried.
@Ninjas_Rule Жыл бұрын
Very nice. I thought Rod Morgenstein had taken over at the end! :)
@Ninjas_Rule Жыл бұрын
Nice work Joe!
@haroldoantunesdajunior1410 Жыл бұрын
Hello Joe, greetings from Brazil. Sound like, is there any trumpet like the ES 335?
@JoeBabiak Жыл бұрын
Olá! Unfortunately I’m not very familiar with the ES 335.
@stlcop8082 Жыл бұрын
To my ear, the horn you ended up going with had somewhat of a cornet character if that makes sense, which I like. I also really liked the dark sound of the A7, though you didn't spend much time on it, and the A9 sounded a little brighter that I expected, but I liked that as well as the various A10's.
@JoeBabiak Жыл бұрын
Yea, my ear prefers a darker tone, which works well for me since I do more solo work rather than playing within a section. Cheers!
@jorgeelojos Жыл бұрын
I had my for 6 months along side keys and doesnt look even close to your mine is very beat up
@brandonpolk2628 Жыл бұрын
Sounds amazing. What were the runner up trumpets “of honorable mention” out of curiosity
@JoeBabiak Жыл бұрын
Hello and thanks! Runner up trumpets...hmm...from the most recent batch of horns I tested (kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ_YpHuiZtWfbK8), I would say some of the Van Laar trumpets (like the brushed gold B5) and the Klangwerkstatt Martin Böhme "Sturm & Drang" were also VERY nice. But for me, the "Tumultus" blew all the others away.
@gilestrumpet3817 Жыл бұрын
Hey Joe ... great playing dude ! I'm toying between Lotus and Tumultus at the moment, thanks to your really informative testings. I haven't played either yet, but as Martin doesn't have any outlets in England, I fear I may only get to try a Lotus. Does Martin's trumpets REALLY do the job so much better than the rest, including Lotus ??
@JoeBabiak Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! You have to understand that each horn will play differently for each player. Out of all the horns I tested, Martin’s horns made an immediate impression with me, and afterwards, it was quite obvious I had found my new horn. That all being said, I would still try to test them for yourself to discover what feels best for you.
@bonerici Жыл бұрын
it's surpising how much they sound alike that is how much is the trumpet player and not the horn.
@JoeBabiak Жыл бұрын
A trumpet is going to sound like “a trumpet” (as opposed to something else) but yes, each player brings their unique touch. In my experience, the sound difference between trumpets can be quite different based on materials, weight, mouthpiece, etc. Capturing the sound through an iPhone homogenizes the sound of the horns too. One is able to fully appreciate the characteristics of different horns when playing them in person.
@bonerici Жыл бұрын
@@JoeBabiak the iphone has a pretty good microphone but you're right I didn't even think about that.
@JoeBabiak Жыл бұрын
@@bonerici - Cheers man!
@filipposantoro8830 Жыл бұрын
Joe, what was your take on the JP Tylor? Thank you for such an amazing content. Your playing is solid and beautiful.
@jean-pierredevent970 Жыл бұрын
It sounded just perfect and gorgeous together with the music but on its own it's not a baffling beautiful sound. Perhaps this is a very specialized jazz instrument and so it's normal an amateur can't understand.
@JoeBabiak Жыл бұрын
Perhaps.
@tomchojnowski9215Ай бұрын
It’s called eq
@JoeBabiak14 күн бұрын
@@tomchojnowski9215 - Thanks for sharing your profound wisdom
@jean-pierredevent970 Жыл бұрын
A very balanced overtones series with a warm, broad, deep sound is attractive but in the end, it's like people look for a flugelhorn or cornet sound in a trumpet. I am more curious about very bright instruments without too many shrill, metallic, ugly overtones.
@danawallace3129 Жыл бұрын
you have inspired me to to play doubles on my two bass drums and now im as fast as you after my 40s Thank ypu for this awesome video. still watching You 10+ years later please keep videoing.
@Selkii Жыл бұрын
Should have been a singer 😂
@JoeBabiak Жыл бұрын
Oh stop!😜
@jkimsc Жыл бұрын
Wondering what your thoughts were on the A9? Beyond comparing it to the Martin Committee, how it compared to the others? Seemed like you passed on it pretty quickly.
@gilestrumpet3817 Жыл бұрын
Hey Joe ~ huge Thanks for the Trumpet Test comparison videos you made. I'm torn between Lotus and Martin Boehme .... you obviously plumped for Martin's Tumultus, and it sounds fab in your hands, but is it way ahead of Adam Rapa's Lotus horns, or is it just your personal preference sir ?
@jkimsc Жыл бұрын
Great video. So appreciated the trumpet comparison videos, as well. Waiting for the Joe Babiak jazz trumpet lessons series now!
@JoeBabiak Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much... happy you enjoyed them! Very appreciated. All the best!
@JMLRecording Жыл бұрын
Great video Joe! You definitely chose the right trumpet. I also loved the warmth of the Shilke’s. Reminded me of a Christmas Broadway show like the nutcracker or something hahaha
@JoeBabiak Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy. The A4 was a good horn, really liked the sound, but the playability was tough. Sooo happy with the new horn, as you know 😉
@maconins123 Жыл бұрын
Funny, the Böhme looks by far the best. However you sounded incredible on the b5 outstanding actually 😊
@JoeBabiak Жыл бұрын
Thanks! The B5 was definitely nice to play, but, that was before playing Martin Böhme’s horns. After that, all the others faded away and it was quite obvious I had found my new horn. ☺️