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@MordethKai
@MordethKai 6 сағат бұрын
My first impression of the story at launch was that it was cringey chuni garbage. I had a theory that the story might have been gutted right before launch, looks like I was right. They really shot themselves in the foot with this.
@Black-co8oj
@Black-co8oj 11 сағат бұрын
And also in addition to this, changing the designs of the female characters and making them appear disgustingly sexual, and also reducing the darkness of the world to the point that I sometimes feel like the game has lost its identity. All this for what? For a group of anime addicts who just want a silly adventure to collect waifu. Sorry if there are any mistakes in my writing because I use a translator due to my inability to speak English.
@justnoct
@justnoct 8 сағат бұрын
Translation was fine. Feel free to respond in your native language, KZbin does translation for the rest of us. Also I agree, I feel like they definitely made the characters more waifus less Shinobi like they were before with the tape wrap etc.
@LeftyPencil
@LeftyPencil Күн бұрын
It feels like PGR-lite, but with actual Android controller support
@justnoct
@justnoct Күн бұрын
Accurate 🤣
@Romashka_Sov
@Romashka_Sov Күн бұрын
Go pick mint😂 . .. ... And while you're doing it reminisce about what we lost to get to this point 😭
@MagisterialVoyager
@MagisterialVoyager Күн бұрын
This update floors me too, even as a husbando collector, slice-of-life type of player. I just enjoy new recipes, the sights, the new map, and the story. It's amazing.
@MagisterialVoyager
@MagisterialVoyager Күн бұрын
Illusive Realm is so pretty, honestly, aaa. ❤
@MagisterialVoyager
@MagisterialVoyager Күн бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS, THIS MAN DESERVES SO MUCH LOVE, HOPEFULLY WE ALL GET HIS S6, LET'S GOOO!!!
@MagisterialVoyager
@MagisterialVoyager Күн бұрын
@@justnoct I don't pull for Jinhsi, but, hey, good on you, LOL. I try to build all husbandos because I enjoy playing them, hence my arrival to this video.
@user-dk7wi2fm4i
@user-dk7wi2fm4i Күн бұрын
i guess i have been bored about mihoyo game,zzz is fking disappointing
@justnoct
@justnoct Күн бұрын
Nah I'm bored too, but I can't just trash the game the first day it's out 😂
@keisukesakamori
@keisukesakamori Күн бұрын
are the people hating on the game ever made it to hollow exploration mode? or just the 1st story and thats it my problem with the game are the TV is getting boring why not make it running from map to map like dragon nest type of stuff and the challenge mode is just dumb, literally dumb. make it harder please
@justnoct
@justnoct Күн бұрын
I'm pretty much done with the story, but I didn't want to spoil too much so I used early game footage.
@Ellie-dj3kr
@Ellie-dj3kr Күн бұрын
thank you for this review. i really wasnt interested in the game and this totally solidified this. ESPECIALLY after Wuthering Waves. Do you think they rushed this because of WuWa?
@justnoct
@justnoct Күн бұрын
I actually think it's the opposite WuWa rushed to beat ZZZ to release. Kuro leadership was smart. They made a serious impact on ZZZs player base. But different games after all ZZZ is instance based more like PGR and HI3 and WuWa was going after Genshin anyway. ZZZ seems like they couldn't figure out a unified vision for the game. It's casual combat but has so much filler the casuals probably won't play it much. Idk. What do you think?
@Ellie-dj3kr
@Ellie-dj3kr Күн бұрын
@@justnoct So i havent played the game but I've been following it cause its a Hoyo game. :0 but it just hasnt really grabbed me. I feel like it looks like a fun casual game if i am just going to "define" it, you know? and i think thats great too. but there needs to be more than one hub where you spend a lot of time and some combat to grab me. its weird cause not even the characters helped this... :[[ I really like that tall maid girl with the friends that float around her but not enough to pull me into the game to play. I think WuWa has a lot of what I've been looking for. And besides the energy costs for things and some co op aspects, its a near perfect game imo.
@mrchubzdathird5449
@mrchubzdathird5449 Күн бұрын
Yo I found out wuwa mailmen give Astirite + exp materials + cash + 200 union exp and NOBODY has made a video on all their locations
@justnoct
@justnoct 5 сағат бұрын
Yeah I was going to add it as part of my tips vid, but tracking them all down for a vid is alot of work for little views lol
@mrchubzdathird5449
@mrchubzdathird5449 4 сағат бұрын
@@justnoct damn…..
@herrcemacu
@herrcemacu Күн бұрын
idk, i really dont like the aesthetics of the game. the game is clearly made for a younger audience, but they went for the japanese 2000s retro style. like all the people who are remotely interested in that kind of nostalgia have to throw up after playing the story, cuz of all the cringe stuff. like the story has a very childish vibe overall. It feels like the game was made for no one. no clear audience in mind. no nothing.
@IYUB30
@IYUB30 Күн бұрын
Very well written thought provoking response. 😅
@exgenesis4457
@exgenesis4457 Күн бұрын
​@@IYUB30It's true though. They really didn't hook much of the Genshin players because it isn't an open world. They didn't hook much of the HSR and HI3 players too. It hooked almost half the Wuwa community but they got bored because it isn't too engaging... It's literally marketing no one in the Top gacha space.
@justnoct
@justnoct Күн бұрын
Literally the entire game feels like an oxymoron. It's casual combat, but there's so much filter that casuals won't play it. The comedy is obvious and dumb though I had a couple laughs. But there's nothing deep about the game. It's instance based so really it's more towards HI3 and PGR and those games have lower player base anyway. Like you said retro vibes (Jet Set Radio) but the older crowd won't play it because nostalgia isn't more important than game substance. Honestly the combat is fun enough to engage people who don't want to think in WuWa but also don't like the basic match the element color "combat" from Genshin.
@KamiGemaGaming
@KamiGemaGaming Күн бұрын
i love everything except for the combat feeling lack luster. Maybe it was just me, but i was expecting more flashy combos and variety
@justnoct
@justnoct 23 сағат бұрын
I can say the combos go get a bit more flashy with some of the other 5 stars and team combos, but definitely missing some depth to the combat for sure.
@naggl3s
@naggl3s Күн бұрын
I think its perfectly fine to dislike the tv exploration system, but I think its a bit disingenuous to just call it "filler." You're not the characters on the field, you're the Proxy, someone looking at screens trying to lead the group through the hollows. It is a simplified dungeon exploration system, but you're able to explore and the exploration segments are detailed (I'd honestly want to see it expanded since as of now its very simple, but I think there's a good amount of potential). We do have a selector at 300 standard banner pulls. It kind of sounds like you are just interested in the gameplay and don't care for the theming of the game? There are a lot of callbacks to movies and television and the reason we have so much in the main area is because it is meant to be a living, thiving neighborhood Wise and Belle live in. Simply turning those to menus and taking away the TVs takes away its aesthetic identity. At that point, what would make ZZZ different from WuWa or even HI3? They're both anime Action RPGs. Don't get me wrong, I don't think ZZZ is flawless. I wish there were more area variety in combats and I haven't really struggled yet despite playing on the game's "hard mode." But, I think just saying a mexhanic is shit without saying why does not do much.
@justnoct
@justnoct 23 сағат бұрын
I can respect your opinion, but I disagree. I don't think its disingenuous to say the monitor and street walking is filler. I guess if someone is looking at the game as a life simulator as a Proxy then sure if that's what you're looking for, but many of us are looking for the combat and the story. If you're here for those aspects, then yeah, scrolling endless monitors for 15min on a mission is straight filler. I honestly think the theme is great retro Japan brought back nostalgia for sure, I just think they could of executed it better. I understand its an Instance Game, but I think outside of combat it could have been done differently. The game combat has no depth. Sorry not sorry. Sure maybe its a bit more complex than the color matching combat of Genshin, but a game that is collaborating with actual fighting games, id expect some more to it. Now a selector at 300 is stupid. That's typical Hoyo bullshit. Give everyone a 5 star selector at the start and see how people invest more. Hoyo missed an awesome opportunity here, but I don't think anyone expects them to change.
@YumiSumire
@YumiSumire Күн бұрын
This game doesn't know what it wants to be, and it's being marketed towards the wrong people.
@justnoct
@justnoct Күн бұрын
Exactly this!
@darksplat8605
@darksplat8605 Күн бұрын
I like the game but yes mostly i find the most boring part are the tv movement and the other thing that are not combat i get there trying something different. But the most annoying parts of hoyo games are just the talking that what people dont want i get there trying to give character development but sometimes it just random npc that are barely part of the story. I want more action i dont want a lot of words in my face but we will see if the game can wow me. Plus im Hsr player so npc dialog is very boring except for Firefly cause she is adorable
@justnoct
@justnoct 23 сағат бұрын
Usually I give the story a fair chance, but I just never felt invested outside of the first few missions.
@ViRo02Cas
@ViRo02Cas Күн бұрын
Maybe if there was a hybrid of Release and in CBT. Where early story happens in CBT however it then shifts to Jinhsi's message to where Baizhi will act maturely and Chixia would feel guilty and have a strained relationship with Rover. Their relationship would be fixed with a story quest of helping others and fighting against TDs with Chixia. During Chixia's quest, she then explains her side and says sorry. So they both start over and become friends. I placed it like this because of Scar's message of Rover being someone important, thus being respected, but also Rover would be suspected for maybe being a danger to others by Chixia and Baizhi (who are on guard) until Jinhsi's message of Rover's importance. Also I don't know what Reputation points do, so maybe the NPCs are scared of Rover early on (because trusted by the Magistrate but is afraid of the danger Rover may bring), however, as Rover increase their Reputation points, NPCs slowly trust Rover
@garethcf1016
@garethcf1016 Күн бұрын
Ive seen ppl say its just a worse version of HI3rd. I think there are a few differences that makes it not just a worse reskin (being able to sorta parry everything in the form of the perfect assists for example). But it does seem to be, for the most part, a somewhat dumbed down version of HI3rd or PGR thats marketed at new players who find entering the other action games more challenging for whatever reason. Most likely, HSR players, given that the walking around, and breaking system is pretty similar. Imo tho, if hsr players wanted to play and action game, they should just go play HI3rd, since its more relevant
@justnoct
@justnoct 23 сағат бұрын
That's a fair comparison. Instance Games usually have less interest. I think the way they marketed the game people were expecting more combat and exploration, less monitors and street walking.
@garethcf1016
@garethcf1016 23 сағат бұрын
@@justnoct Tbh, if they just add more combat, give the mobs more hyper armour, and add unique mechanics to bosses like HI3rd does, I think itll be ok
@Locoplayz523
@Locoplayz523 Күн бұрын
Personally i agree with it needs work but i dont think the combat needs to be elden ring level hard. Challenging but not purgatory. People complain every time on how the battles arent hard but some games are for the casual audience.
@justnoct
@justnoct Күн бұрын
No, not even Wuthering Waves hologram hard. Just some more depth to the combat would be nice and some bosses that felt present, not just damage sponge meters.
@Locoplayz523
@Locoplayz523 Күн бұрын
​@justnoct I completely understand where your coming from. Also side track why does it feel much harder to get pulls in this game compared to other hoyo games?
@justnoct
@justnoct Күн бұрын
Idk why tbh, but I definitely agree it feels like they're being extra stingy. Hoyo definitely isn't Kuro 😆
@LostWallet
@LostWallet 2 күн бұрын
they could have let us countrol the bangboo and explore the hollow and do mini game and puzzle, and hiding deom enemies and encounter combat and get advantage/disadvantage combat engagement, and many other ways, but no, they make us look at the tv monitors for 80% of the mission
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
That's such a better idea instead of the monitors actually doing the exploration as the Bangboo!
@justkubz
@justkubz 2 күн бұрын
I feel like they don't have an identity for ZZZ, we have big booba waifus next to young characters that are weirdly sexualized, and 75% of the characters are using some combination of white, black, and red which is just boring and repetitive. The Belobog faction could have used orange or neon yellow/green, but instead, it's red, white, and black. I think Soukaku is the only character with a unique color palette. The TV nonsense is awful! Boring, slow, and it's complete filler, just take us to the gameplay. If they were targeting the casual gamer base, then all this filler is exactly what will lead to players dropping the game after a few hours. The combat is fun, but personally, I don't see much mechanical depth. Completely agree with many of your points, I think a 5 star selector for the beginner banner could have gone a long way for keeping players engaged, I got Koleda and have zero interest in playing/building her. If I could pick a 5 star that I like, maybe I would be more willing to continue playing because at least I find the character interesting or nice to look at lol
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
Yeah you nailed it on the head. The Identity is all over the place just a cyber punk throw back style but no consistency. The combat is simple, but it's definitely fluid. I think they could have added more of a skill floor. I agree though it feels like it's built for casuals, but then all the filler will push away the casuals. Weird way to do it for sure. I'm in the same spot with my 5* I got the weirdly sexualized car girl and honestly don't really want to play her. Would of rather Von or Soldier 11 tbh.
@chinchilla505
@chinchilla505 Күн бұрын
game is very asexual, not sexualized. just pretty costumes. Not any worse than real life where you can find 13-17 year old girls in skin suits at a commercial gym. stop hinting for more censorship in waifu games
@justkubz
@justkubz Күн бұрын
@chinchilla505 Nobody is hinting at more censorship in gacha games. Your opinion is mad weird, and you should just keep it to yourself. Characters like Nekomata and Corin are sexualized simply by the poses the devs decided to put them in. Corin is literally bending over, and you can see up her skirt, but she acts like a child and looks like a child. Why don't you take a seat over here 🤡
@justnoct
@justnoct Күн бұрын
Relax Dr Disrespect, no one is going after your digital waifus...
@chinchilla505
@chinchilla505 Күн бұрын
@@justnoct see his coming for our waifus.
@spdlmt307
@spdlmt307 2 күн бұрын
Yeah the monitor is annoying
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
Doing the Cat mission I stopped playing it was 15min straight of monitors and unlocking paths for the train so boring
@xav2584
@xav2584 2 күн бұрын
Yeah i saw all the furry bullshit they had going on and was like yeah fuck that, but then i tuned into a couple of streams and the combat seemed very fun. I wont even lie i have been smashing the skip button for the story since i just finished WuWa's recently and was taking my time LMAO. I definitely think the TV stuff is what's pissing a lotttttt of people of rn and is making their opinion of the game 2x worse than what it would have been tbh, but overall im having a good time.
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
I usually give the story a chance. I've skipped almost everything in ZZZ. The monitors take too long. I agree it's a huge detractor to the overall experience.
@assil555
@assil555 2 күн бұрын
man i dislike how easy it is and they just make the gameplay seem complex and deep but its just left click eye catchy spammer, and the cheer amount of lolies and fan service, i kind of wanted it to be the visually pleasing version of honkai impact type of game but the story too is mid, i expected it kinda but damn what a massive let down. And also slight edit, why the f are the boss SOOOOO passive, like try and hit me bro, give me a reason to focus on the fighting they hyped that much right when im supposed to be hooked, not bore me until i drop it like i did now, and the music of the gacha is too bothersome, i mute it everytime i had to pull Great video by the way, keep up the good work
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
Those are all great points. The bosses are very passive. I'm not the biggest fan of instance based games but when they are executed correctly they're a blast. But after doing the Cats quest and spending 15min on the monitors I got annoyed 😂 Also thank you for the kind words!
@josecedeno3128
@josecedeno3128 2 күн бұрын
Hours saved, thanks
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
Glad it helped!
@Blyat0004
@Blyat0004 2 күн бұрын
F man I tried jinhsi in the realm rn it’s hard to not pull her for mommy changli and her weapon as in on a guarantee 48/80 for changli and weapon is 5/80 with 22k asterite f2p btw rn my main dps calcharo
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
Yeah I messed up I used my guarantee on Jinhsi but I don't regret it. Just really hoping I can get Changli and I'll stick to the standard 5 Star sword.
@nxn7215
@nxn7215 2 күн бұрын
Well people from the mainland dislike it, they wanted to be a generic isekai harem protagonist
@rapp8901
@rapp8901 2 күн бұрын
We literally share the same opinion bruhhh cbt1 is js better and more realistic
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
It really was! We'll see how things develop 1.2 onward!
@reisaizel4562
@reisaizel4562 2 күн бұрын
somehow the the depth is still not opened for me. Already sent a complaint on their discord. I hope it gets fixed already.
@emailsampah624
@emailsampah624 2 күн бұрын
Same
@kevvin5030
@kevvin5030 2 күн бұрын
Same.. when I click on it.. it brings me to the side quest window
@reisaizel4562
@reisaizel4562 2 күн бұрын
@@kevvin5030 deym still the same? gonna play first descendant for now.
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
Depths opens up later today, they released the gifts event early.
@jin2135
@jin2135 2 күн бұрын
I gotchu all. First open the game. Press tools in the login screen, and then clear patches. It worked for me.
@Naratheeditor
@Naratheeditor 2 күн бұрын
Also because of scar’s thingy
@echo3568
@echo3568 2 күн бұрын
Bro I was torn between jinhsi and changli and said fuck it and got her 2nd pull😀
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
Same, but took many more pulls than you 😂 hopefully we both get lucky with Changli!
@echo3568
@echo3568 2 күн бұрын
@@justnoct goodluck man 🫡
@spookbarkee9345
@spookbarkee9345 2 күн бұрын
We have to speak up and gain traction about the CBT situation. Becasue if Kuro listens to the community, they'll know their original creativity and storytelling could've been well received and they should stay true to their art.
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
I like the enthusiasm and hopefully people are voicing their opinions in the feedback section!
@quangnhat5345
@quangnhat5345 2 күн бұрын
Crownless after Knee uppercut chixia: E in crownless is for everyone. Damn CBT crownless truly a menace.
@PtaQman
@PtaQman 2 күн бұрын
Got Yinlin and Jinhsi. After trying out Changli in the story, I decided to go for the weapon since I'm going to skip her. Surprisingly, it wasn't a hard decision to make because Jinhsi felt incomplete without her weapon. So that was a priority for me. I rarely feel that way about a character, but for me, she is the QUEEN. Love her. I think they did an amazing job with Jinhsi. I'll try to bring Changli home on her rerun, probably. The next resonator I am aiming for is Phrolova, so I have a lot of time to gather astrites. It's so hard not to swipe in this game since every character is simply amazing. Love your content as always. Keep on being MOTIVATED! *Vergil's theme starts in the background*
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
I agree I was planning on skipping Jinhsi but after pulling her and playing her she's simply perfect. Such a great character and kit. I have Jiyan's Verdant Summit and it works pretty well on her as a Crit Dmg Stat Stick. I'll use the free 10 forging tides to try and bring her weapon home. But for me Changli would be the final Character for me at least for a while. The triple Jinzhou teams! Anyways thank you so much for the kind words! It's definitely a journey to keep pushing not seeing the return but you guys are fkin awesome so I'll keep at it!
@Eloux
@Eloux 2 күн бұрын
I think Wuwa is going to be a game where it's actually feasible/recommend to save for and obtain a characters signature instead of cons, especially because we can technically save up for a free dupe on a given banner
@mrchubzdathird5449
@mrchubzdathird5449 2 күн бұрын
Bro changli 😳
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
I know... I used my guarantee on Jinhsi so I'm hoping luck is on my side for Changli!
@kuro.editzzz
@kuro.editzzz 2 күн бұрын
Mommyy
@revanwinter
@revanwinter 2 күн бұрын
Vegeta Abridged bro 😂😂😂
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
LMAO yep haha
@KuraiShogun
@KuraiShogun 2 күн бұрын
I think the CBT story problems is how after the intro, it's more of a fetch quest and it seems too hard to please the NPCs living there and in the revamped story, Kuro Games want to make Jinzhou a place you care to protect, but if the town is hostile just like how CBT's characters were, why care to help them? But they fucked up by making everyone too friendly, devoiding any depth, personality, or weight behind the intro. Why couldn't Kuro Games balance shit evenly? They could've done something like do some quests for characters to gain their trust and wares or shit. Here's my take on the reworked Crownless: He knocks out Chixia and Baizhi and you and Yangyang must fight his phase 1. Then in Phase 2, Yangyang saves you and gets hit and as the Crownless transforms after receiving a heavy blow from Rover, Rover has that badass line "You won't feel a thing soon." And yada yada, Crownless dies and gets absorbed easily by Rover. But Chixia isn't overly hostile, but she and Baizhi distance themselves from Rover until they realize that they have no choice but to trust Rover for now.
@justnoct
@justnoct 2 күн бұрын
I agree they should of found a middle ground instead of going pulling a 180. I hope they bring back Calcharo's story and Danjin as well. I get that Sanhua was negative and people didn't trust rover, but the anti hero isn't a bad story line. I like what they did with 1.1, but I think the darker side of Wuthering Waves isn't coming back for a while.
@futavadumnezo
@futavadumnezo 3 күн бұрын
They decided to go with the safe Genshin clone route, to retain more people and make more money. They were afraid the game would flop or die on arrival so they went with E for everyone type of story. Should have stayed with the more mature and gritty type of story imo.
@futavadumnezo
@futavadumnezo 3 күн бұрын
I don't know about the whole story in CBT but that intro should've stayed for sure, it's so epic and dramatic it sets a different tone. But maybe tone down Chixia, even though it doesn't bother ne she points her gun at you for like 2 seconds.