Why did you rage quit your channel bud ?

i have a gibson les paul standart US i am satisfied . if i had the money i would probely buy a custom shop but so far its the bedst guitar i had had my LP standart by the way great video with information

I used to not like relic guitars, but then life happened and I learned the value of things that have been "lived in". I also appreciate being able to relax and not worry about getting a scratch on a $10,000 instrument. I like to use my things and not feel like I have to protect them. Example: I personally get the most enjoyment out of my cars after they have about 50K miles on them and I am not worried about where I park them, or whether or not they are covered in a storm. Do I own the car/guitar, or does it own me? There is value in the wear/tear on some items. An old broken in leather jacket being one of them. In fact, relics remind of a really nice old pair of leather shoes that have been broken in nicely but have recently had brand new soles put on them. A great combination. These points you have made are great. Anderton's also did a wonderful explanation similar to your points. I want to point out a couple things as well. Eddie Van Halen's guitars were NEVER flawless, not even new. Put together from spare parts and factory seconds with a home paint job. Slash's iconic Les Paul model is in fact a knockoff. Brian May built his own guitar out of an old piece of wood that was previously a mantel off of a fireplace. You don't need beautiful or mint condition gear to make good music. In my opinion (having been around the guitar community in various forms over the last 20 years) if it is reliable/looks cool/plays well/sounds as you like, then why even care what anyone else thinks? Enjoy your instrument and don't worry about what people think of it. The people who get really caught up in these battles are often not the ones doing anything at a high level other than arguing on Internet forums.

Gatekeeper is kind of a silly term for people stating their opinion. What “gate” (power) do they have? By your example how are you not gatekeeping people who have opinions?

Did have to change pot's as they were waaaay too stiff. Also PU covers n more accurate pole pieces. Also real single line klusens. The double line that say Gibson Deluxe didn't come out untill the mid 60's.

You should explain about materials and labor and hands on workmanship to these boobs that try to compare those unethical counterfeit chibsons to the real deal. I have a 2007 R8 plain top and I've played many other regular USA LP's and there's a difference. For some reason lots of people say 2007 used the best woods of the custom shop reissues, true? Who know's. There all nice.

Can I ask what that music you were playing please? What was my special guitar I would have to say my old Washburn, i played it for more than 20 years on stage aswell as at home every day . I play John Denver music and after 5 years my Washburn sounded beautiful. I do wish Washburn still made its guitars in America as I’ve seen and heard of bad reports on Chinese made?

Raw material prices roundabout: - One piece quatersawn genuine mahogany neck - 150$ - one piece genuine mahogany body AA quality- 150$ - nice bookmatched plaintop 80$ or highly figured eastern hard maple 200$ - nicely figured and dark rosewood fretboard AAA quality - 40$ Electronics, machines plastics - repro pickups and electric harness 300$ Tuning machines 30$ - frets, plastic parts 50$ There are no man-hours included, just the pure materials you need to build the guitar without machine running costs and work materials. The better the materials, I.e. light wood or higher quality the more expensive it is. Hide glue is a tricky stuff to work with, I personally use fish glue, it’s as good and offers the same properties, it’s protein based as well. The finishing process is also tricky, nitrocellulose lacquer is highly sensitive stuff and needs experience to be applied properly. All in all the higher tier Gibson and PRS, that basically use the same manufacturing process are expensive because adding all costs up, including manpower, they have high costs and this is responsible for the price, if it needs to be that high, I don’t know, I’m not a Gibson accountant but I know that I won’t sell my handmade stuff under 2.5 grand if I have material costs only about a grand, more likely for 3k at least.😂

Hmmmm. 300lbs.that sounds like it weighs alot

Well done.

The price is all hype. In 1958 they didnt use the best of the best select stuff, just what was available. Some 58-60's are not even good. Was luck of the draw. I have a $3k one that is nothing special, and I have some cheap chibsons I re-did and are better than my $3k gibson now. Ive taken them all apart and even built one. No reason a gibson standard shouldnt be $800. and the re-issues shouldnt cost any more because there is nothing different really. The aged and special treatments ones can cost more, but its not rocket science to do it, couple hundred bucks at most. But $5k ? Its just insanity. And with their sub par QC , my inlays started lifting up on mine. I think they inflate the price to trick people into thinking its so much better than it actually is. And the difference is just something in peoples heads most the time.

I just bought the smaller version of this pedal. It sucks that there’s no recourse for anything like this purchased 2nd hand. I think it is the price we pay for access to incredible tones that are normally hard to acquire, be it because of scarcity or price. Unfortunately, planned obsolescence is part of most products, from televisions to phones to guitar pedals. I’ve gone through a similar experience with a Boss M50. It’s such a great multi effects pedal, with an incredible library of effects. But when mine died long after warranty, it was impossible to get fixed. I could either buy another, used, at close to the same price I paid for it used, and risk the same experience, or buy the newer, more expensive (and not as user friendly) version of the pedal. I went a different way, and downsized, building a board of my own methodically with single effects units. It’s a shame. I have a tube amp from the late 50s I inherited, and I’m thankful these old amplifiers still have people that can repair them.

Thought i was gunna hate this cover...i was wrong bravo sir!!😎

good video. i got a mark i hrd in a trade and i like it ok. i run a rev 1 rackmount chandler tube driver into it. clean, it doesn't have a lot of headroom, but i have a 74 twin for that. if you start to hear a twin 'breaking up', chances are you are hearing your torn eardrums. i'm not ga ga over the hrd. i was trading for the guitar i got with it (prs se hollowbody II... lovely axe) but it works. i can get good tone out of it. its alright. that would be my review lol

For fucks sake. I was with you until your idiotic gaming analogy. No. Females are NOT being gatekept or excluded. That is objectively FALSE. Everyone acts like a dick online. Everyone suffers abuse online. It's disappointing you believe that nonsense.

Bassman Hardwired, LOL. Man what a comparison. I own a HRD Special edition with a cream back and it is a very usable amp. My other amps are a Redplate Magic Dust Duo, a Bogner XTC 101B and a Matchless DC30 2x10 with Alnico Golds, your Bassman is not even close to those 3 amps . Don't do comparisons like that again

excellent video

Buy what you want, I don't care but what you buy says something about you. Of course most people who buy relics are posers. You don't keep your opinion to yourself so why should I? People who buy pre ripped jeans are posers too. They're buying an image, an image that wasn't earned. Doesn't make you a bad player or bad person, you might be a brilliant player. Pop and rock music is full of posers, doesn't necessarily mean they're bad musicians (although they might be). Image is very important to people, often inordinately so, just look at music business and tell me what they put first.

Hero. People need to chill out. Live and let live. I've just sold a very 60's LP - a very, very special one - which was quite dinged up and tomorrow I've got a heavy relic from Fender CS arriving. Somebody else put the dings in both 🙂 Actually, I'm making the cardinal sin just by writing this comment. I've bought the heavy relic because I think it looks cool, it's in my preferred playing specs and it's my own money. Why any of those three things are anyone elses business are beyond me. The cardinal sin I mentioned...is bothering toever acknowledge or write a counter argument to such vindictive/nasty narcisism. I don't like bananas but I don't scream at people who eat them. You've really it the nail on the head though. People who say relics are for posers are posing as an authority figure themselves. Brilliantly apt, appropriately savage and hilariously true. Wise man 🙏

Another good comparison. My two pence worth, though is that I think those 'pensioner' guitar tones are far superior to the modern day metal. No will remember the stuff today; it all sounds the same. Just a wall of saturated noise. There's little in the way of dynamics in the majority of it (exception apply of course). I think if modern players would take the same approach to creativity as the genre founders, we might have more interesting and better sounding results. Just swamping everything in gain isn't the answer, IMHO.

Thank you a thousand times over for making this video! As someone ith a similar background in design, engineering and manufacturing I know how much the process of building a guitar has changed in the last 65 years, how nearly impossible it is to go back in time and recreate that process, how insanely expensive it becomes and how close Gibson comes to achieving the impossible. Thus, it drives me nuts when people's first, and frequently only, comment on Custom Shop guitars is that 'they're too expensive'. What these people always fail to realize is that they're paying for an item that can only be made in one place on earth with all the attendant limitations that come with that. If the Custom Shop were to shut down this level of replication could not be achieved by anyone else, anywhere. Your explanation of the craftsmanship and materials costs is far and away the best I've seen; hopefully you will have created some converts. Thank you again.

Gibson Custom Shop guitars are soo expensive for the same exact reasons that Fender Custom Shop Guitars are soo expensive.

hi..thnx for the info..I just ordered a powerstage 200..I already have a boss me90 and a vox 112 cab..what do you think?.. a good live back line rig??

So I have been asked to wear in guitars…. As a guitar builder I admire these companies that are building relics that look good. It’s a pain to wear out a guitar. Love how you worded all of this. Personally I just buy guitars from the early 90s for myself. typically because they are beat and awesome!

It’s always pretty easy to find people that make negative comments. I’ve been playing since before relic and aged guitars were a thing. Back then people would tell me “I can’t believe you paid that much for a guitar and you’re not even in a band. That guitar should be on stage.” They shamed me for even having it. I never let it bother me. I’ve always thought of myself as a “guitar enthusiast” that can play pretty well. I’ve gotten a lot of enjoyment from all the guitars I’ve had over the years, mint, relic and vintage alike. People are going to say all kinds of things and that’s fine but don’t let them spoil your enjoyment. Life’s too short to worry about comments online or anywhere else.

Have you ever noticed that all of these anti-Chibson guys all have the exact same set of points? They're so concerned about someone getting tricked in a resale- is this really a big issue? They're SO morally concerned about the copyrights of a massive company that is swimming in profits. The reality is, these are guys that own Gibsons and truly believe that makes them somehow better, and they can't STAND that someone could purchase a look-a-like for $300. Gibsons are awesome, and Chibsons can be really good. Mind your own business and stop worrying about what anybody else is playing. And spare us your moral outrage when the world has a thousand other REAL problems that should be addressed.

One can dial in a "scooped" sound and get this amp to sound like ANY blackface amp. Tweak the Bass/Middle/Treble knobs. What Max forgets to mention is just how much LOW END this amp has to begin with. Keep the bass very low or simply OFF for clean rhythm. For scooped: Middle around 2-3; Treble between 7-8. All other knobs off, although a touch of reverb on clean. Reverb off when dirty. You're welcome.

Nicely done! No complaints. 🥲

Great video. Subbed.

I wear my guitar the same way I wear my shorts - just like John Dwyer from The Oh Sees!

Great video, and you made your points well.

This is the most ridiculous video I’ve ever seen. You bought a faulty pedal, you always take a risk when you buy used. You got a lemon, which is a very rare thing with TC Electronic stuff. Grow up and get over it.

Great demo

the way our society makes things that are later simply disposed of is actually quite grotesque. but, back to pedals: this is what makes boss so good in that their stuff never breaks - and also what makes companies like eqd so exceptional as they will back their products for as long as they are in business.

Having played custom Gibson guitars they sound great but way overpriced and overrated. I dislike the necks too cramped and thick for my taste. Prefer superstrat necks and fretboards. I tried to like Gibson LP guitars but too hard to play shred type stuff. Amp and pedals make the tone more than the guitar anyways. Cork sniffers drove price up.

My only question is how do guys who are into relic’d guitars decide which pair of pre ripped jeans they should wear everyday?

Hey Max, Maybe put Strat features into a Tele body and see how you feel? Like a Nashville Strat, but more like a... California Tele?

We have to take Gibsions word about using premium woods and what about their QC not good from base line to Custom Shop this is all on record from their customers

I will have to say when this guy begins to sum up. He is spot on. And is honest in his opinions. And if you’re wondering, yes I own one- FSR mark 4. Love it.

I bet they’re just nicer to play. Saw one on a tv show a Gibson museum piece, went for tons of cash.

Hear hear!

Particle board cabinet, mediocre PCB construction, unusable gain channel. It is a great pedal platform due to the excellent clean channel, but multiple pedals kill the tone of the amp anyway, so...

Outstanding Truth!! Gate keepers are Dicks!!! lol

Really amusing comments. The love:hate ratio is about even. I’m on the love side with a George Benson model. Has a tube and speaker mod (to increase headroom) with an all pine cab. Works well for jazz on a hollow body. Sparkles.

Because their money hungry grifters.perhaps gibson should stop putting suits in charge and maybe hire people who know,understand,and care about the people playing the guitars.they hired 2 more complete money men.Think about the times,money and people. If you wanna hang around. Who in the fuck pays 7 grand for something that cost you at most 6 hundred to make.NOPE.TWO WORDS FOR GIBSON LISTEN UP NOW....HUBER ORCA 59.YOUR IN TROUBLE.

Dick here...This video was quite amusing. But I am not a penis-potato. Play what you like and spend your money as you like. It is called Liberty! I have cheap and expensive, new and old, pretty and ugly. They are just toys! Just shut up and play yer piano......

I have a 2004 R8 and it has become my number one guitar. It has been the greatest guitar I've owned. All the other reissues Gibson makes isn't as warm and bluesy. It always been dependable onstage and off. Stays in tune and sounds wonderful through any amp and pedal.

You don’t like it because you like to compare this amp to high gain 100w Marshall JCM800… That’s all I hear you say .

Sounds like my LP Traditional and looks lousy compared to my same Desert Burst😅😂

Here's the answer... It's because people will pay for it.. So that's what they charge. ;)