I own six different Arken scopes and five different Vortex scopes, and none of them have particles inside. If you’re claiming otherwise, you need to show proof in a video. Simply saying it’s there and expecting us to take your word for it isn’t enough. I was raised to believe nothing of what I hear and only half of what I see.

"There is no one doing what I'm getting ready to show you". Well, you didn't show us anything so I guess you're still right.

The Arken is 5 to 6 hundred, not 800. Get the numbers right. Anyone can tell you are not judging fairly.

glue in my arken and lock rings in my monstrum nice

Interesting Video.

I own a tract toric, a element titan and 2 arken models. The arkens don't come close to the qaulity of my tract or the element. They are nice and usable. Thanks for your honesty brother. Goes a long way

Love the channel mate great info as always. Im in Australia and i purchased an arken ep4 after watching your video i was actually the first person in Australia to purchase an arken scope and i absolutely loved it but i stupidly sold it wish i didn't but i have since bought 2 sh4, at the moment i have the sh4j on my custom 300wsm and love it

These videos are hilarious. I listen while reloading. Do a video on where the parts are sourced on all of those in this video. Which ones are assembled in the U.S. Where the glass is made. I’d watch it

Are the 3k scopes 2400 hundred dollars better then the 600 dollar arken NO WAY i have both that's my opinion I'm not putting my life on the line so i don't need them 3 to 5k scopes the budget scopes are catching up.

I have a Ep4 4-16 mil I would sell for 250....still have the original box.

The athlon is not the same price as an ep5. The ep5 $200-300 less and every bit as good. Definitely a better bang for your buck.

From what I've seen with the Arkans, in my opinion you are better off going with the old SWFA scopes as an entry level precision optic. You may not get the modern features but those SWFA scopes are built like tanks. I'm going to upgrade and eventually get a Leupold mk5 hd. I'm also sniffing around Leupold's more affordable kin the m4hd.

The dirt/debris/fingerprints you find in some scopes makes me wonder about another factor that I haven’t seen discussed much, if at all, in recent scope reviews. I seem to remember that at one time reviews usually included some sort of test to see how well scopes were sealed. Maybe it was only a problem with scopes long ago, but as I recall the limited tests that hunting magazine reviewers could conduct involved immersing the scopes in hot water. Is that someone anyone does these days with recent production specimens? How about tests to see if there is any internal fogging/condensation if a scope is exposed to very cold temperatures? (I found a few online reviews that mention cold weather operation, but they were older.)

I’ve seen some of these videos that you’re talking about from Mountain Mullet and Paramount tactical and I don’t think that you’re actually telling the truth. I watched the Fairmount tactical and I never heard him say it was just as good. He clearly said that the night was a better scope. I’m not sure why you need to say things in our true to try to get people to watch your videos? I guess you’re just one of those click bait guys.

I think im going to become a scope ho...and ask every one on the range in a shop or any where there are scopes if i can have a look through it. Lol just kidding but it would be great and helpful to get the opportunity to look through the whole range of scopes out there . . Good video. 😊😉

I own none of the above however if you are turning the fire on someone or a brand of anything you should really post the video of the facts not your word just saying good effort though!!!

Great video. I own both Tract and Maven. Cant go wrong with either.

Very informative. Thanks for the education

I have a also a STRIKE EAGLE it hasnt failed me yet. Another worth money is a Leica PRS series is definitely an UBER CLASS SCOPE.

The Bushnell Match Pro ED is a notable mention. Under 800 and pretty darn good.

FYI, Paramount never claimed the EP5 was on the level of the ATACR. He did state it was equivalent to a more expensive optic, $1500 level IIRC. And, after long term use he no longer recommends them due to a mechanical failure his son had during a match. My problem with Arken is their army of influencers are making them out to be more than they really are. Apparently someone at Arken was very upset that Gary from Paramount called the EP5 great "for the money" but not everything an ATACR is.

My 223 heavy target rig has an Athlon Argos 10-40X56. It is no where near the quality of the Aries but better than I expected. When I made the purchase, it was all I could afford. What is does have is the floating center dot and seems to track. When I'm able, I plan to upgrade to the Aries and keep Argos for a future 10-22 build.

I searched redline optics on youtube and found his channel www.youtube.com/@usca3981

I was hoping to see inside these scopes. I'm still scraping together funds for another optic. I love coming to channels like this one before I spend money.

Won't buy Chinese junk

I have purchased several Arken ‘s since they came out and like you I started out with the gin one 6 to 24 which was an excellent scope. I then moved on. I bought three MP fives which I sold to and still have one I purchased the new 7 to 35 Arken but then found out about the DNT7 to 35 and like you said because of the Reticle I’d like that DNT7 to 35 more than the reticle in the EP five or any of the other scopes that Arken has on the market. Also I’ve been to I bought the DNT7 to 35. I would have continue to be a certified customer buying Arken scopes but again I do like the Reticle better and the DNT scopes now as you said, but this only happened on one of my EP fives and it was the 5 to 25 the scope stop kept coming loose and that was the only issue I did finally get it to stay put but I did notice that that was an issue. now about your customer claim yes you do talk to the company through email but I was at a match and someone knocked my 20 pound rifle off of the rifle rest and destroy the scope. That Monday I reached out to Arken customer service and within two emails from me, they replace the scope without a lot of back-and-forth. They asked me a few questions to check them out, the rings, etc. etc. and once I went back through those checkpoints and told them that I had since taken off the scope and replaced it with one of the other scopes I purchased, and I didn’t have the problem that was the end of the story, they simply mailed me out another scope with a return envelope for the damage scope. So that’s my two cents on it. The only thing that I would look for out of the Arken or even the DNT based on testimony from other people with other scopes is a more generous icebox. If I was going to compare Arken scopes against other scopes, that is where I would start is with the eye box and then the Reticle after that, I find the quality to be very good for the money. Also, I will say that I have shot out to 1250 yards and had no problem identifying splash impact or trace and this is with the Arken .

Arken is a good buy for the $. Period. You are not comparing apples to apples. Not everyone can spend thousands on optics or they would. I have both! Arken is hurting your buddies.

I have purchased several Arken ‘s since they came out and like you I started out with the gin one 6 to 24 which was an excellent scope. I then moved on. I bought three MP fives which I sold to and still have one I purchased the new 7 to 35 Arken but then found out about the DNT7 to 35 and like you said because of the Reticle I’d like that DNT7 to 35 more than the reticle in the EP five or any of the other scopes that Arken has on the market. Also I’ve been to I bought the DNT7 to 35. I would have continue to be a certified customer buying Arken scopes but again I do like the Reticle better and the DNT scopes now as you said, but this only happened on one of my EP fives and it was the 5 to 25 the scope stop kept coming loose and that was the only issue I did finally get it to stay put but I did notice that that was an issue. now about your customer claim yes you do talk to the company through email but I was at a match and someone knocked my 20 pound rifle off of the rifle rest and destroy the scope. That Monday I reached out to Arken customer service and within two emails from me, they replace the scope without a lot of back-and-forth. They asked me a few questions to check them out, the rings, etc. etc. and once I went back through those checkpoints and told them that I had since taken off the scope and replaced it with one of the other scopes I purchased, and I didn’t have the problem that was the end of the story, they simply mailed me out another scope with a return envelope for the damage scope. So that’s my two cents on it. The only thing that I would look for out of the Arken or even the DNT based on testimony from other people with other scopes is a more generous icebox. If I was going to compare Arken scopes against other scopes, that is where I would start is with the eye box and then the Reticle after that, I find the quality to be very good for the money. Also, I will say that I have shot out to 1250 yards and had no problem identifying splash impact or trace and this is with the Arken .

The constant sniffing. Blow your nose

Athlon kicks Arkens ass! 😂

I'm like you with the Arken EPL4's I have 4 of them and love them. What I have not liked from the very beginning is the reticle. You touched on "the one" from DNT. It is just like the Arken but with a better reticle. It wouldnt cost much, if anything, to etch in a few more lines in the reticle but yet they dont. I also totally agree with the Athlon ARES ETR. I have started using them and now have 3. Optics Planet will have specials on them where you can pick them up in the 8 to 900 range brand new or you can find them used for 7 and I have even see the Cronus, Athlons flagship, sell for 750 to 850 used. The only reason I switched is because of the reticle but now that I have it will be hard to get me back. If you are shooting 22LR PRS the Arken will keep you under the total price rules for Factory Class. Under those circumstances, Arken is the way to go. If DNT builds other scopes to be competitive with Arken but with that reticle they have in the 7x35, they are going to take a lot of business away from them. Another scope I am interested in hearing from you on is the Bushnell Match Pro ED. I have one of them that I am trying out and so far I have to say its a real nice scope and again in the 6 to 700 price range.

The arken shills are the WORST of the WORST.

Arken is garbage. My brother has one and when I looked thru it, the quality is terrible. No wonder it only cost like 400 with accessories plus rings. Makes you thinks how much of the 400 dollars is really going into the scope.

Have you ever had your hands on a tract?

With your input back a few years back, I got the Element Titan and it’s been a perfect performer. I own several brands like Vortex Razor HD Gen2, March 8-80x56 SFP, Schmidt and Bender Klassik 1-10x56 and of course a couple of Arkens EP-5 5-25x56. The expectation that Arken can perform at the top tier is an illusion, but will it be a good basic scope - they seem to be ok. I haven’t tried the new Arken, a canted reticle would be seriously disappointing 😳 good video buddy, keep on winning!! 👍😃

Great content on these scopes and something a lot of people wont do, pure honesty, period!! I started using REDLINE after meeting Sam (CEO), with it being a total coincidence as he's a customer of ours.. never less his product is amazing and built tough with Amazing lenses, I use several other brands but dollar for dollar im right in line with you, love your video content and truth!👊🏼🇺🇸💯

Arken is the holy grail of scopes. Mankind would not and could not shoot out to distance without Arken. All other scope companies should just close down and call it a day.

I found Jimmy Hoffa in mine!

Many THANKS!! Great explanation of scope internals.

Hi Mike thanks for the video. What’s your opinion of the Burris Eliminator 6 pls.

Can you make a video of your top scopes under $1000?

Just curious, can you see bullet trace, say 22lr or moderate velocity 6mm, with the Arken or the Red-Line. Can you see it with the Element Titan? It kind of seems like the Arkens are okay to you, if they weren't overhyped? Thanks much, appreciate what you do.

I’ve been watching your channel a long time and I think a lot of it is because of your honesty and good content. You have pointed me in directions on purchases that I’ve been extremely happy with one being a Tikka 22 the other a Athlon Helos. But watching your video tonight I got tickled when you was talking about companies with a person you can talk to versus a email and the funny thing I was thinking about buying a outlier barrel blank and just wanted to know if I purchased a blank without listing a action would I still have a warranty but like you said there’s know one to contact and right before I seen your video I went on Facebook to Arken and told them to cut back on marketing and buy a phone. I got a little aggravated and commented that I would add a few bills and get a bartlein are shilen and be able to talk to someone if I have any issues. Lol

The test is done, and the flashlight test and two scopes are committed: Athlon Ares ETR UHD 3-18xmm and Arken's EPL 4-16xmm. The Athlon Ares's internals are spotless, but Arken's EPL has particles. I've been looking at scope quality for years, going back to 2004, to see why some scopes cost so much more than other scopes' wages paid to its employees, etc, and other reasons as well. I thought that I would see something, but nothing, spotless with Athlon.

Well said, thank you for not being a Arken whore. I have one. never again. Ill stick to NF, Leupold, Zeiss, Meopta, and for me the best bang for the money Sightron.. Just my opinion

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I appreciate the video and info! Ive been thinking about whether to go for the new EP5, or an Ares. Considering the Ares is only an extra $150, i think ive made up my mind! Thanks!

Mike, I have $801 MSRP to qualify for NRL22 base class. Can you recommend the best scope for my application? Is the Bushnell MPED the best choice? Thanks!

I agree 100%, that is why the good scopes are higher, better quality.

You would sound much more professional if you didn't use words like "ANYWAYS". That's street punk talk. It's ANYWAY.